I just read your dribble… I mean message, and see that you compare me to Hitler? You certainly are open-minded… I am a Christian lady, and you insult me for my beliefs. If there is a hint of fascism on this thread, Perhaps it is coming from you?

It is time for a truly Constitutional Christian Party in Illinois. Please contact me if you are interested.

Thank you.

Unfortunately, for most of our people license is preferred to liberty and the debauchery that follows is destructive of a Constitutional Republic.

The Libertarian Party is little more than Anarcho-Capitalism founded on the rule of one, not the rule of law. It is as far removed from Constitutional Republicanism as the Welfare Statist parties of the Democrats and Republicans. They are two branches on the same tree one step removed from Total Government. The Anarcho-Capitalists are the trunk growing from the root of Anarchy or No Government. They both are diametricly opposed extremes.

Either extreme represents a threat to limited and Constitutional Government. Similarities and differences are only a matter of superficial coincedence, not of an essentially shared nature or character.

The CP is no better than the Democratic Party in terms of its desires to run people’s lives. It wants to in fact play god. “Pornography is bad, let’s ban it!”

Even if what you say about pornography is true, so what? Fast food is very bad too. Should it be banned? Who are you to judge? Fast food ruins lives. Smoking has certainly ruined more lives than porn.

And as for Angela, sodomites running freely in the streets doesn’t hurt me or you. You just don’t like people who are different than you, which is why you probably fit in nicely in a monolothic party full of demagouges. You like to scapegoat homosexuals like Hitler scapegoated the Jews. In fact, Hitler was also fond of putting gays to death.

I don’t want a nanny government of any type. I am an undercover anarchist afterall. But if I had to choose, I’d certainly prefer a corrupt, beuracratic mess that the Democrats would give me, along with the inefficient but free health care, poor but free education, etc., over the Talibanic theocracy that the CP wishes to usher in.

I respect this site, third parties, etc. I will not derail threads. However, this thread was about the similarities of the CP and LP and I feel that my comments are appropriate. The CP is a pseudo-hate group; the LP is a legitimate political party. That’s the difference.

Another difference is that if you choose to live your life as a repressed, superstitious (sp), Amish-like fanatic believing in bogus fairytales made up to control the masses, I support your right to do so. If I want to engage in consentual sodomy with my wife (or boyfriend for that matter—though that’s not my thing!), you want to invade the sovereingty of my own home and throw me in jail (or worse). That is totalitarianism, and you sully the word “liberty” by attaching your autocratic views to it.

Thank you both for your last messages here.

Chris, you are right, this thread was taken down a rabbit trail as these things often do. Thank you for the call to get back on track.

Joe, thank you!! We both have recognized where sometimes we don’t necessarily agree on a specific item. However, we are both committed to the constitutional restoration of our individual states and these United States of America. It is upon this foundation that we all must build or we ALL stand to loose our freedoms that we have held so dear to our hearts.

As I have stated before, the Democrats and the Republicans are the left wing and the right wing of the same bird flying the wrong direction. It doesn’t matter which wing of this bird comes to roost as Governor of Illinois, it will still be headed in the wrong direction.

It’s time for “The Eagle” to come in and begin the process of restoration. There is only one way for this to happen and that’s for all LIBERTY LOVING AMERICANS to unite together. We are men and women of principle; let’s do something to break the back of tyranny. It is time to quit all this petty squabbling and rise once again as “WE, THE PEOPLE!”

It’s beyond time for a change. IT’S TIME FOR A REVOLUTION!! Let’s bring this revolution on with our voices UNITED, before we have to exercise our second amendment rights to protect our first amendment rights, our families, our private property and our right to pursue happiness.

Again, I Call all Libertarians and all Liberty Loving Illinois Citizens to support the Gubernatorial Candidate of the Constitution Party and/or to seek to run as a state-wide candidate under the banner of the Constitution Party of Illinois and to help us to gain ballot-access beginning March the 28th. The goal is to reach 75,000 signatures, which is three times the required number, so as to ensure enough qualified signatures to gain ballot-access.

Randall C. Stufflebeam
Chairman and
Gubernatorial Candidate
Constitution Party of Illinois
http://www.RunRandyRun.com

Chris Bennett, I will respond to your last comment by email as you suggest.

seems to me that the only difference is with whom the buck stops…

for the CP it’s the almighty
for the LP it’s the individual

at the points where the individual ideal of liberty does not conflict with the almighty’s, then the two should work together.

First, I must say that I appreciated you taking the time to look at the issues on my campaign website and picked up on the pornography issue.

The reason that you feel you could substitute the word pornography with religion is that you don’t understand religion. According to the Bible, James 1:27, “Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.” You say that this is “harmful??”

What I think is harmful is the ruined lives that are a direct and indirect result of pornography. What I think is harmful is how many women have been abused, raped and demeaned by pronography.

Further, your comment shows a total lack of understanding of our country’s founding. And the importance that “religion” has played in such things as our First Amendment Rights that Mrs. Wittman so adequately brought to our attention.

Also, you calling me a Facist, does show your complete lack of understanding about either the Constitution Party or the Libertarians, both of which call for a smaller, decentralized form of government, which is quite contrary to the meaning of the word facist.

Your comment “the Democratic nanny might be a fun” reflects the attitude of “If it feels good, do it!” The sad thing about it is that it is usually at the expense of someone else. It is most definitely the attitude reflected by the “Pepsi Generation/Baby Boomers,” which are the ones that have gotten our country in such a mess.

While I definitely don’t agree with your last paragraph, it did at least make me laugh. You obviously have the CP confused with the Republicans who are forcing more government down our throats at every turn.

The first duty of government is to protect the innocent, which ours is failing to do, (ex. sodomites marching freely, while Christians are put in jail for sharing their faith; abortion—BABY KILLING—on demand; euthanasia of the weak, infirmed and elderly—the list goes on).

Now, if we continue to cast aside God’s Law, which does offer liberty to those who have self-control, and punishment for those who do not and consequently harm others, what shall we replace it with? Please answer quickly, because you are both growing older by the minute, and may be eligible for euthanasia soon… The clock is ticking…Tick tock…tick tock…

As a left-libertarian, let me demonstrate some serious differences:

Randall C. Stufflebeam says “Pornography is a disease that is destroying family and marriages.”

1) Substitute “RELIGION” for “pornography”

2) I do not want to BAN religion just because it is, in my opinion, harmful. I think people can make their own choices. If someone were to indoctrinate their children with pornography, that would be bad. What of the religious indoctrination that occurs all over the world?

Fascists like Mr. Stufflebeam are just as bad of advocates of a nanny-government as Democrats. The only difference is, the Democratic nanny might be a fun, cool type of babysitter. The CP nanny is a dried up old bag who hasn’t taken a dump in two weeks.

Thank you. : )

P.S.
I will not support Mr. Stufflebeam for Governor of Illinois. He has not proven that he is ready for such a position, if elected.

Chris, if you are a pro-life Christian, is there anything besides the drug plank that you disagree with in our platform. You reference “white people” but I am not aware of anything in our platform concerning race?

As for me, I will build on the Rock of Christ Jesus.

I just received an email with this quote, and perhaps you all will find some wisdom in it, as well: Sometimes “THE MAJORITY” only means all the fools are on the same side.”