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]]> by: Jake Porter http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2737 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:56:59 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2737 The Other Party. That way we can do better in the polls when people support other candidates. The Other Party.

That way we can do better in the polls when people support other candidates.

]]> by: Mike Grimes http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2730 Wed, 01 Mar 2006 18:26:10 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2730 I think party name is always an issue for 3rd partys as we get labled as failed or yesterdays news without success. In Minnesota we have the added troule of being called the Independence party, which means many don't relize our candidates have a party and more important a resonable platform behind them. It would seem resonable that we will change our name next year as either we will have a sitting governor, or will be labled pretty much dead by all the pundits, meaning either we can move forward with little confusion of what we're about with a new name, or we have nothing to lose. Maybe the libertarian party should change to the Independence party for a few cycles as it will invite all voters to take a good look at the party. I think party name is always an issue for 3rd partys as we get labled as failed or yesterdays news without success.

In Minnesota we have the added troule of being called the Independence party, which means many don’t relize our candidates have a party and more important a resonable platform behind them. It would seem resonable that we will change our name next year as either we will have a sitting governor, or will be labled pretty much dead by all the pundits, meaning either we can move forward with little confusion of what we’re about with a new name, or we have nothing to lose.

Maybe the libertarian party should change to the Independence party for a few cycles as it will invite all voters to take a good look at the party.

]]> by: Anthony Partin http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2729 Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:58:37 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2729 "Who can argue with logic?" Lots of people....religious extremists being the most glaring example. The Libertarians have earned their reputation. The purists and their dogmatic approach to their philosophy have gotten them to the position. It is unfortunate, because there is a lot of merit in the LP...and they are the largest alternative party. There are issues in the LP that make no common sense. They are often based on idealistic principles...not common sense or logic. Semantic warfare in politics....always a blast. “Who can argue with logic?”

Lots of people….religious extremists being the most glaring example.

The Libertarians have earned their reputation. The purists and their dogmatic approach to their philosophy have gotten them to the position. It is unfortunate, because there is a lot of merit in the LP…and they are the largest alternative party. There are issues in the LP that make no common sense. They are often based on idealistic principles…not common sense or logic.

Semantic warfare in politics….always a blast.

]]> by: Christopher Jagge http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2716 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:14:13 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2716 "most people don’t know what it means. “Liberty”, on the other hand, has strongly positive connotations in the U.S." ... Most Americans don't a clue about the meaning of Liberty either, or Republican or Democrat for that matter. "Libertarian" is finally catching on and still people want a name change, as if that will be the silver bullet to success. Thanks for the Bonita Daily News article. “most people don’t know what it means. “Liberty”, on the other hand, has strongly positive connotations in the U.S.”

... Most Americans don’t a clue about the meaning of Liberty either, or Republican or Democrat for that matter.

“Libertarian” is finally catching on and still people want a name change, as if that will be the silver bullet to success.

Thanks for the Bonita Daily News article.

]]> by: Mike Smith http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2715 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:02:15 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2715 If a name change is in order, I would propose something along the lines of The Logical Party, or The Logic And Common Sense Party. Who can argue with logic? Well, conservatives and liberals I guess. Still, it would make a great campaign slogan. Vote for _____, the Logical choice! If a name change is in order, I would propose something along the lines of The Logical Party, or The Logic And Common Sense Party.
Who can argue with logic? Well, conservatives and liberals I guess.
Still, it would make a great campaign slogan. Vote for _, the Logical choice!

]]> by: Otto Kerner http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2712 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 02:36:06 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2712 "Libertarian" by itself is not a very bad word, but it's not a good one, either. Some people think it sounds a bit too much like "libertine" or "terror" or "totalitarian" ... or "liberal", even, which is a dirty word nowadays. I don't think it really calls to mind any other word in particular, but it is sort of long and awkward and most people don't know what it means. "Liberty", on the other hand, has strongly positive connotations in the U.S. “Libertarian” by itself is not a very bad word, but it’s not a good one, either. Some people think it sounds a bit too much like “libertine” or “terror” or “totalitarian” ... or “liberal”, even, which is a dirty word nowadays. I don’t think it really calls to mind any other word in particular, but it is sort of long and awkward and most people don’t know what it means. “Liberty”, on the other hand, has strongly positive connotations in the U.S.

]]> by: Austin Cassidy http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2710 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:08:38 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2710 True... but the article is only one element of this story. The actual dig at the debate and whenever else this guy is using this line against his opponant without a newspaper reporter there to call it a cheap shot. True… but the article is only one element of this story. The actual dig at the debate and whenever else this guy is using this line against his opponant without a newspaper reporter there to call it a cheap shot.

]]> by: George Whitfield http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2708 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:45:11 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2708 I think a close reading of this article shows the Libertarian Party in a favorable light. First, it commends Richard Ferreira, the candidate associated with the Libertarian Party, for the best performance by a challenger. And then it points out that the criticism of him by the incumbent, Edsall, for receiving a contribution from the Libertarian Party, as a cheap shot. I think a close reading of this article shows the Libertarian Party in a favorable light. First, it commends Richard Ferreira, the candidate associated with the Libertarian Party, for the best performance by a challenger. And then it points out that the criticism of him by the incumbent, Edsall, for receiving a contribution from the Libertarian Party, as a cheap shot.

]]> by: undercover_ararchist http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2706 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:05:07 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2706 Changing the name will not help things. Those in power will always try to deride and smear any of their challengers, particularly ones who call attention to corruption and waste. "Libertarian" is clearly not a "bad" word. Instead of changing the name of the party, you should work toward changing the party to be more libertarian, not less. Changing the name will not help things. Those in power will always try to deride and smear any of their challengers, particularly ones who call attention to corruption and waste. “Libertarian” is clearly not a “bad” word. Instead of changing the name of the party, you should work toward changing the party to be more libertarian, not less.

]]> by: Timothy West http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2705 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:02:43 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2705 thats the usual public perception of the LP. You can make fun of it all you want, but the reality is people dont vote for our candidates becuase of it. Instead of deriding the dude, you might consider if his view is something we need to take seriously and figure out how to overcome it so we can get more people elected. thats the usual public perception of the LP. You can make fun of it all you want, but the reality is people dont vote for our candidates becuase of it.

Instead of deriding the dude, you might consider if his view is something we need to take seriously and figure out how to overcome it so we can get more people elected.

]]> by: Mike N. http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2704 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 14:44:49 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2704 I don't see how gridlock in the government is such a bad thing. The less they do the better. I don’t see how gridlock in the government is such a bad thing. The less they do the better.

]]> by: Otto Kerner http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2701 Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:38:01 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/02/27/566/#comment-2701 Yeah. The only potential problem with "Liberty Party" at this point is that it might sound too much like "libertarian". Guys like Edsall could maybe get away with saying, "He took $500 from the treasurer of the 'Liberty Party', which is a front for a bunch of ... libertarians!" Yeah.

The only potential problem with “Liberty Party” at this point is that it might sound too much like “libertarian”. Guys like Edsall could maybe get away with saying, “He took $500 from the treasurer of the ‘Liberty Party’, which is a front for a bunch of … libertarians!”

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