Comments on: Badnarik Wins Nomination http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:32:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: Chris Moore http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3638 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:24:37 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3638 UA, the election is in 8 months. Most people don't care yet, so the media doesn't care. McCaul and the democrats have received an equal share of no attention. Wait until November 8th or at least until the summer before spouting off about failure. And then run for congress yourself. UA, the election is in 8 months. Most people don’t care yet, so the media doesn’t care. McCaul and the democrats have received an equal share of no attention.

Wait until November 8th or at least until the summer before spouting off about failure.

And then run for congress yourself.

]]> by: undercover_ararchist http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3609 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:43:21 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3609 There was a Green congressional candidate in my state that raised a measley $10,000--but it was more than the Democrat and he was in the news all the time; both for statements he made, appearances, etc., plus the fact that he was raising money. Badnarik raised 20 times as much in 1/10 the time AND he is a former presidential candidate, but he can't even come close to getting ANY attention. His campaign is a failure and a complete waste of all the hard-earned money people have donated to it (i.e. to Outback Steakhouse and Allen Hacker's expense account). This effort is going to set back third party politics by 20 years. Good job, all involved! There was a Green congressional candidate in my state that raised a measley $10,000—but it was more than the Democrat and he was in the news all the time; both for statements he made, appearances, etc., plus the fact that he was raising money. Badnarik raised 20 times as much in 1/10 the time AND he is a former presidential candidate, but he can’t even come close to getting ANY attention. His campaign is a failure and a complete waste of all the hard-earned money people have donated to it (i.e. to Outback Steakhouse and Allen Hacker’s expense account). This effort is going to set back third party politics by 20 years. Good job, all involved!

]]> by: Allen Hacker http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3590 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:22:18 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3590 Thanks, Darcy, Yep, that helps as part of the picture. Now if anyone knows the top US Rep numbers.... As for Carla Howell's republican, his 13% is a testimonial to each party having its hardcore voters. You don't have to reach out to them, and you probably can't steal them. Might as well ignore them unless combining both sides of the megaparty they add up to more than 40% in the race. Then just run a paper candidate. -0- Thanks, Darcy,

Yep, that helps as part of the picture. Now if anyone knows the top US Rep numbers….

As for Carla Howell’s republican, his 13% is a testimonial to each party having its hardcore voters. You don’t have to reach out to them, and you probably can’t steal them. Might as well ignore them unless combining both sides of the megaparty they add up to more than 40% in the race. Then just run a paper candidate.

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]]> by: Darcy G Richardson http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3587 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 05:20:44 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3587 Allen, I know this question wasn't directed at me, but maybe this will help. According to one of her own websites, Carla Howell, co-founder of the Center for Small Government, raised approximately $821,000 as the Libertarian Party candidate for the U.S. Senate from Massachusetts in 2000. Howell ran against entrenched Democrat Ted Kennedy that year --- no easy task for a fiscal conservative in the Bay State. Impressively, Howell had 5,106 contributors and claimed more than 700 volunteers during that uphill campaign. Incredibly, she received an eye-opening 308,860 votes, or almost 12% of the vote, while nearly finishing ahead of Jack E. Robinson, her hapless Republican opponent, who received a dismal 13% of the vote. It was, I believe, the strongest third-party showing by a U.S. Senate candidate that year. According to her FEC reports, at this point in Howell's Senate race, she had more than $51,000 in cash on hand and began a serious media blitz a few months later, spending several hundred thousand dollars on radio and television, including $68,977 in TV ads on WHDH-TV alone, one of Boston's leading television stations. Her other major expenditures included $2,500 rent for her headquarters, consulting fees for a Las Vegas-based campaign fundraising firm headed by Mike Cloud, as well as $500 a week for a full-time staff member in Massachusetts. Carla really knew how to stretch a dollar --- and it nearly paid off! But you're right, Allen. One shouldn't compare a U.S. House race to a Senate race. It's like comparing apples and oranges, especially since the Republican candidate in that race was so weak and raised less than $29,000 while spending less than $200,000 on his entire campaign. Allen, I know this question wasn’t directed at me, but maybe this will help. According to one of her own websites, Carla Howell, co-founder of the Center for Small Government, raised approximately $821,000 as the Libertarian Party candidate for the U.S. Senate from Massachusetts in 2000. Howell ran against entrenched Democrat Ted Kennedy that year—- no easy task for a fiscal conservative in the Bay State. Impressively, Howell had 5,106 contributors and claimed more than 700 volunteers during that uphill campaign. Incredibly, she received an eye-opening 308,860 votes, or almost 12% of the vote, while nearly finishing ahead of Jack E. Robinson, her hapless Republican opponent, who received a dismal 13% of the vote. It was, I believe, the strongest third-party showing by a U.S. Senate candidate that year.

According to her FEC reports, at this point in Howell’s Senate race, she had more than $51,000 in cash on hand and began a serious media blitz a few months later, spending several hundred thousand dollars on radio and television, including $68,977 in TV ads on WHDH-TV alone, one of Boston’s leading television stations. Her other major expenditures included $2,500 rent for her headquarters, consulting fees for a Las Vegas-based campaign fundraising firm headed by Mike Cloud, as well as $500 a week for a full-time staff member in Massachusetts. Carla really knew how to stretch a dollar—- and it nearly paid off!

But you’re right, Allen. One shouldn’t compare a U.S. House race to a Senate race. It’s like comparing apples and oranges, especially since the Republican candidate in that race was so weak and raised less than $29,000 while spending less than $200,000 on his entire campaign.

]]> by: George Whitfield http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3584 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:21:57 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3584 Congratulations to Michael Badnarik. I think this may be the first time a Libertarian Presidential candidate has run for a different elective office after their Presidential campaign since Ron Paul was elected to Congress. Congratulations to Michael Badnarik. I think this may be the first time a Libertarian Presidential candidate has run for a different elective office after their Presidential campaign since Ron Paul was elected to Congress.

]]> by: Allen Hacker http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3583 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:07:45 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3583 Hi George, We might not want to count senate in a congressional race, due to context, although technically both the House of Reps and the Senate together are congress. Either way, it would be great if you can provide both numbers, and better yet if you can break them down by primary, general, toal, and results. Then we'll all know every standard to pursue. Thanks. -0- Hi George,

We might not want to count senate in a congressional race, due to context, although technically both the House of Reps and the Senate together are congress.

Either way, it would be great if you can provide both numbers, and better yet if you can break them down by primary, general, toal, and results.

Then we’ll all know every standard to pursue.

Thanks.

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]]> by: Kyle B http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3581 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:40:20 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3581 how much money did she spend, how she do, and what state. You mistyped that part in your first post how much money did she spend, how she do, and what state. You mistyped that part in your first post

]]> by: George Phillies http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3571 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:02:30 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3571 Most Money. If you count Senate, that would be Carla Howell in iirc 2000. Most Money. If you count Senate, that would be Carla Howell in iirc 2000.

]]> by: Chris Moore http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3556 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:31:33 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3556 Hi Glenda. The simplest explanation of what a Libertarian believes: in general we are conservative on fiscal issues and liberal on social issues. Libertarians believe government is best when it is small and closest to the people (such as state and local governments.) You can learn more about Mr. Badnarik specifically and Libertarianism in general here: http://badnarik.org/libertarian.php Hi Glenda. The simplest explanation of what a Libertarian believes: in general we are conservative on fiscal issues and liberal on social issues. Libertarians believe government is best when it is small and closest to the people (such as state and local governments.)

You can learn more about Mr. Badnarik specifically and Libertarianism in general here:

http://badnarik.org/libertarian.php

]]> by: glenda http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3555 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:14:47 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3555 I'm curious and know nothing about the guy. What is the Libertarian platform? I’m curious and know nothing about the guy. What is the Libertarian platform?

]]> by: Kyle B http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3552 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:53:02 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3552 Just had a question someone here might be able to answer. what is the most money a Libertarian has spent on a congressional race and how did that candidate do? Just had a question someone here might be able to answer. what is the most money a Libertarian has spent on a congressional race and how did that candidate do?

]]> by: Chris Moore http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3548 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:49:12 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3548 I think just the fact that Badnarik has out-raised the Democrat almost 20 to 1 will in the next week or so make for a quick, cute story. Then no one will pay attention to the race until September. And then, Badnarik will only be part of the story if his poll numbers are (1) higher than the Democrats, and (2) within 10-15 points of McCaul's. But from a recent fundraising letter I received, we should expect to see lots of action in the coming weeks. So who knows. Maybe Badnarik can earn some more media. I think just the fact that Badnarik has out-raised the Democrat almost 20 to 1 will in the next week or so make for a quick, cute story. Then no one will pay attention to the race until September. And then, Badnarik will only be part of the story if his poll numbers are (1) higher than the Democrats, and (2) within 10-15 points of McCaul’s.

But from a recent fundraising letter I received, we should expect to see lots of action in the coming weeks. So who knows. Maybe Badnarik can earn some more media.

]]> by: Austin Cassidy http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3500 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:11:09 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3500 Hey, it beat out other breaking news including the Ugliest Dog Contest and "Brush fire causes slight damage" :) Hey, it beat out other breaking news including the Ugliest Dog Contest and “Brush fire causes slight damage” :)

]]> by: Kyle B http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3497 Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:59:02 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/03/26/badnarik-wins-nomination/#comment-3497 looks like the paper that had this story didn't think it was that big of a deal since the news item covered in the same column was that of a kitten theft and the kitten theft was covered before the Libertarian story. If Badnarik wants to get some attention maybe he should come out strong against kitten theft :) looks like the paper that had this story didn’t think it was that big of a deal since the news item covered in the same column was that of a kitten theft and the kitten theft was covered before the Libertarian story. If Badnarik wants to get some attention maybe he should come out strong against kitten theft :)

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