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		<title>by: Mark Rutherford</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6582</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 16:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6582</guid>
					<description>Thanks for the compliment Rolf!  

Based on anecdotal evidence so far,  it seems a lot of people have reacted sympathetically to the LPIN based on the article.   It probably got a lot of people to look at us that would not have done so otherwise</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks for the compliment Rolf!</p>
	<p>Based on anecdotal evidence so far,  it seems a lot of people have reacted sympathetically to the <span class="caps">LPIN</span> based on the article.   It probably got a lot of people to look at us that would not have done so otherwise</p>
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		<title>by: Tim West</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6562</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 03:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6562</guid>
					<description>Yep. Tom speaketh the truth. it has to be NEWSWORTHY, and we dont get to judge what that is anymore than anyone else who does not own one of the 5 media corps that control 99% of the news reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yep. Tom speaketh the truth. it has to be <span class="caps">NEWSWORTHY</span>, and we dont get to judge what that is anymore than anyone else who does not own one of the 5 media corps that control 99% of the news reporting.</p>
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		<title>by: Thomas L. Knapp</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6560</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6560</guid>
					<description>There are two sides to every story, of course.

I've done a few campaign media analyses, and to be honest, most LP candidates get LESS pro rata media coverage than their electoral performance would seem to merit -- even in the 1% bracket, the candidates I've looked at got something like one TENTH of one percent of the newspaper word count in the election.

On the other hand, a lot of Libertarians don't understand how to get the media's attention. The media doesn't care what Libertarian candidates think. They already KNOW what Libertarian candidates think, and have known it for years. What Libertarian candidates think is old news, and old news is not news.

Journalists are, however, often interested in what Libertarian candidates DO. If a press release concerns an EVENT or something that has HAPPENED or about to happen, it's ten times (and that's a lowball estimate) as likely to get covered as a press release about what someone thinks. Position papers -- even position papers disguised as press releases -- don't generate media.

Regards,
Tom Knapp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>There are two sides to every story, of course.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;ve done a few campaign media analyses, and to be honest, most LP candidates get <span class="caps">LESS</span> pro rata media coverage than their electoral performance would seem to merit&#8212;even in the 1% bracket, the candidates I&#8217;ve looked at got something like one <span class="caps">TENTH</span> of one percent of the newspaper word count in the election.</p>
	<p>On the other hand, a lot of Libertarians don&#8217;t understand how to get the media&#8217;s attention. The media doesn&#8217;t care what Libertarian candidates think. They already <span class="caps">KNOW</span> what Libertarian candidates think, and have known it for years. What Libertarian candidates think is old news, and old news is not news.</p>
	<p>Journalists are, however, often interested in what Libertarian candidates DO. If a press release concerns an <span class="caps">EVENT</span> or something that has <span class="caps">HAPPENED</span> or about to happen, it&#8217;s ten times (and that&#8217;s a lowball estimate) as likely to get covered as a press release about what someone thinks. Position papers&#8212;even position papers disguised as press releases&#8212;don&#8217;t generate media.</p>
	<p>Regards,<br />
Tom Knapp</p>
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		<title>by: Rolf</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6550</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6550</guid>
					<description>Mark,

I agree with you.  From what I've seen, the LP of Indiana in the 2000s could be what Indiana was to high school basketball in the 1920s.

I'd bet that about 1/3 of the people who read the biased column had a reaction opposite that of the intention of the writer.

A lot of people like to root for the underdog.

Rolf Lindgren
Vice-Chair
www.LPWI.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Mark,</p>
	<p>I agree with you.  From what I&#8217;ve seen, the LP of Indiana in the 2000s could be what Indiana was to high school basketball in the 1920s.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;d bet that about 1/3 of the people who read the biased column had a reaction opposite that of the intention of the writer.</p>
	<p>A lot of people like to root for the underdog.</p>
	<p>Rolf Lindgren<br />
Vice-Chair<br />
<a href='http://www.LPWI.org' rel='nofollow'>www.LPWI.org</a></p>
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		<title>by: Mark Rutherford</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6548</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 18:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6548</guid>
					<description>We have money in Indiana for media.  We spend it on the media in Indiana (we are running radio commercials in Indianapolis before the R's and D's primary this Tuesday).

We are treated fairly by most media, including many at the Indianapolis Star.  However, this one reporter tends to be a (insert your choice of derogatory word).  Quite frankly, the sitting Secretary of State was treated far worse than Kole by this reporter in a previous column.

Our activists regularly appear on local talk radio, including in Indianapolis, and many of their op/eds are printed in newspapers across the state of Indiana.

By the way, we are winning local partisan offices in Indiana and growing the party at every election. Many partisan elections we have lost on the local level we lost with vote percentages over 40%.  We have several Libertarian activists on various government boards.   Thus we have accomplished something.

Remember how the establishment operates - first they ignore you, then they attack you, then you win.

I'm pleased to see the Libertarian Party of Indiana is pleasantly entwined in the establishment's attack phase and is looking to quickly move to the win phase at state level positions.  It's much better than being ignored.  

Mark W. Rutherford, Chairman, Libertarian Party of Indiana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>We have money in Indiana for media.  We spend it on the media in Indiana (we are running radio commercials in Indianapolis before the R&#8217;s and D&#8217;s primary this Tuesday).</p>
	<p>We are treated fairly by most media, including many at the Indianapolis Star.  However, this one reporter tends to be a (insert your choice of derogatory word).  Quite frankly, the sitting Secretary of State was treated far worse than Kole by this reporter in a previous column.</p>
	<p>Our activists regularly appear on local talk radio, including in Indianapolis, and many of their op/eds are printed in newspapers across the state of Indiana.</p>
	<p>By the way, we are winning local partisan offices in Indiana and growing the party at every election. Many partisan elections we have lost on the local level we lost with vote percentages over 40%.  We have several Libertarian activists on various government boards.   Thus we have accomplished something.</p>
	<p>Remember how the establishment operates &#8211; first they ignore you, then they attack you, then you win.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m pleased to see the Libertarian Party of Indiana is pleasantly entwined in the establishment&#8217;s attack phase and is looking to quickly move to the win phase at state level positions.  It&#8217;s much better than being ignored.</p>
	<p>Mark W. Rutherford, Chairman, Libertarian Party of Indiana</p>
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		<title>by: Brian Grant</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6545</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6545</guid>
					<description>Wasn't  this country founded by men who were &quot;whining&quot; about  taxes without representation ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Wasn&#8217;t  this country founded by men who were &#8220;whining&#8221; about  taxes without representation ?</p>
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		<title>by: Jim 101</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6543</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6543</guid>
					<description>But Allen, in order for the curious to come runnin, they have to know your out there. I'm willing to bet if the press gave the same full court coverage to the Libertarian candidate that it does to the two major parties, then we would see the numbers change rather dramatically.

It's a Catch 22 if I ever saw one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>But Allen, in order for the curious to come runnin, they have to know your out there. I&#8217;m willing to bet if the press gave the same full court coverage to the Libertarian candidate that it does to the two major parties, then we would see the numbers change rather dramatically.</p>
	<p>It&#8217;s a Catch 22 if I ever saw one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>by: Tim West</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6536</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 07:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6536</guid>
					<description>Yep. Mike's a good guy, but you do something woth reporting on and they will come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yep. Mike&#8217;s a good guy, but you do something woth reporting on and they will come.</p>
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		<title>by: Allen Hacker</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6535</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 07:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6535</guid>
					<description>I'm with the press on this one.

First you accomplish something.  THEN you crow and watch the curious come a-runnin'.

-0-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m with the press on this one.</p>
	<p>First you accomplish something.  <span class="caps">THEN</span> you crow and watch the curious come a-runnin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>by: rolf</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6516</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 00:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6516</guid>
					<description>FYI

The press in Wisconsin is not biased aganst Libertarians.

We do not have the money to get our message out to the general public, but we do have the resources to reach the members of the media.

We have leveled with them, expressing a moderate, logical, principled message.

Hence, we are treated fairly in news reports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">FYI</span></p>
	<p>The press in Wisconsin is not biased aganst Libertarians.</p>
	<p>We do not have the money to get our message out to the general public, but we do have the resources to reach the members of the media.</p>
	<p>We have leveled with them, expressing a moderate, logical, principled message.</p>
	<p>Hence, we are treated fairly in news reports.</p>
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		<title>by: Citizens For A Better Veterans Home</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6514</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 00:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/04/29/columnist-blasts-libertarian-whining/#comment-6514</guid>
					<description>Need additional proof that the 'battling, bickersons' the two sections of the shaddowy, but still viable 'Establishment Party' the Democans and their near twin Republicrats, are in political 'kahoots'?
Ten percent? In a more perfect FAIR world it would be more like ONE PERCENT! And if the Libs started reaching 10% percent on a regular basis the bench mark would be raised by the Establishment to 12% or 15%!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Need additional proof that the &#8216;battling, bickersons&#8217; the two sections of the shaddowy, but still viable &#8216;Establishment Party&#8217; the Democans and their near twin Republicrats, are in political &#8216;kahoots&#8217;?<br />
Ten percent? In a more perfect <span class="caps">FAIR</span> world it would be more like <span class="caps">ONE PERCENT</span>! And if the Libs started reaching 10% percent on a regular basis the bench mark would be raised by the Establishment to 12% or 15%!</p>
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