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	<title>Comments on: Statement from Oregon CP Chair&#8230;</title>
	<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/</link>
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		<title>by: Gary Odom</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-8336</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 17:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I vowed not to respond to any of UA's ramblings, but when this person attempts to make statements of &quot;fact&quot; about the Constitution Party that are, in fact totally erroneous, I feel compelled to state the facts.

First of all, we are talking about the Constitution Party which was founded in 1992.  Of all of the state affilitates that have been a part of the Constitution Party since that time only two, California's American Independent Party, and Nevada's Independent American Party were affiliated with any previous national committees that nominated Presidential tickets.  It is  patently unreasonable to foist responsibility for blame or credit on the national Constitution ( or U.S. Taxpayers Party, as it was oarignially known) Party for any  Presidential candidates prior to its inception.  Since the very first Presidential candidate of the Constitution Party was nominated in 1992, I think we can have complete agreement, based on UA's above statement, that the Constitution Party has NEVER nominated a White Supremist candidate for President.

The Constitution Party has welcomed participation by all racial groups.  Our current chairman in the State of Georgia is a black man.  I prefer to just think of him as a man, but if you insist of pressing the issue, I will state that fact for that purpose alone.  We have had black people in leadership positions in Missouri and Texas, that I know of.  There  was a mixed race couple from Utah who were delegates to our National Convention in 2004.  This fact would normally not even deserve note or comment except as in response to UA's ridiculous assertion that we are a white supremecist organization.  In California, one of our current statewide candidates is black.  

I don't know how many black Americans participate in the Constitution Party.  Not enough, probably, but from, my view that same statement can apply to all races.  We are building a party in which all Americans of all racial, ethnic and religious groups can feel welcome and we certainly hope more will join us!

I would suspect, UA, that we in American Independent Party in California, which goes back to 1968, have more experience fighting racists and bigots than you do .  Because the media perception of the party in the early days,  as a result of the Wallace candidacy, as well as provacaturs, like yourself, we did from time to time, find ourselves &quot;vistited&quot; by Klansmen, white supremecsists, and anti-semetic nutjobs such as Tom Metzger, David Duke and others.  Each and every time we &quot;showed them door,&quot; sometimes rather undiplomatically letting them know that their sick venom was not welcome in our party.  Eventually they apparently got the message because we have not been plagued by them for a long time.

Interestingly, UA, there is much in the tone of your statements that reminds me of them.  They, too, liked to obfuscate the the truth and speak from ignorance, in bellicose ways that dripped with hate and vitrol. They were also often victims of a totally misplaced sense of the validity of their views and of their own self importance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I vowed not to respond to any of UA&#8217;s ramblings, but when this person attempts to make statements of &#8220;fact&#8221; about the Constitution Party that are, in fact totally erroneous, I feel compelled to state the facts.</p>
	<p>First of all, we are talking about the Constitution Party which was founded in 1992.  Of all of the state affilitates that have been a part of the Constitution Party since that time only two, California&#8217;s American Independent Party, and Nevada&#8217;s Independent American Party were affiliated with any previous national committees that nominated Presidential tickets.  It is  patently unreasonable to foist responsibility for blame or credit on the national Constitution ( or U.S. Taxpayers Party, as it was oarignially known) Party for any  Presidential candidates prior to its inception.  Since the very first Presidential candidate of the Constitution Party was nominated in 1992, I think we can have complete agreement, based on UA&#8217;s above statement, that the Constitution Party has <span class="caps">NEVER</span> nominated a White Supremist candidate for President.</p>
	<p>The Constitution Party has welcomed participation by all racial groups.  Our current chairman in the State of Georgia is a black man.  I prefer to just think of him as a man, but if you insist of pressing the issue, I will state that fact for that purpose alone.  We have had black people in leadership positions in Missouri and Texas, that I know of.  There  was a mixed race couple from Utah who were delegates to our National Convention in 2004.  This fact would normally not even deserve note or comment except as in response to UA&#8217;s ridiculous assertion that we are a white supremecist organization.  In California, one of our current statewide candidates is black.</p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t know how many black Americans participate in the Constitution Party.  Not enough, probably, but from, my view that same statement can apply to all races.  We are building a party in which all Americans of all racial, ethnic and religious groups can feel welcome and we certainly hope more will join us!</p>
	<p>I would suspect, UA, that we in American Independent Party in California, which goes back to 1968, have more experience fighting racists and bigots than you do .  Because the media perception of the party in the early days,  as a result of the Wallace candidacy, as well as provacaturs, like yourself, we did from time to time, find ourselves &#8220;vistited&#8221; by Klansmen, white supremecsists, and anti-semetic nutjobs such as Tom Metzger, David Duke and others.  Each and every time we &#8220;showed them door,&#8221; sometimes rather undiplomatically letting them know that their sick venom was not welcome in our party.  Eventually they apparently got the message because we have not been plagued by them for a long time.</p>
	<p>Interestingly, UA, there is much in the tone of your statements that reminds me of them.  They, too, liked to obfuscate the the truth and speak from ignorance, in bellicose ways that dripped with hate and vitrol. They were also often victims of a totally misplaced sense of the validity of their views and of their own self importance.</p>
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		<title>by: undercover_anarchist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-8178</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 21:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I can see that others, including yourself, are tiring of our back and forth, so I will gladly end what has become an unproductive exercise. As outlined in the Gilchrist thread, I do think that drawing people from both sides have made it clear--at least to this limited audience-- that there is no point of reconciliation between the Libertarian and &quot;conservative&quot; worldviews. I would sooner join the American Communist Party than be in any way affiliated with the white nationalist hate group masquerading as a political party known as the CP, and I think that I'm not alone.

Mr. Campbell has refused to address the fact that human beings are not the only species to engage in sodomy (and by that, I take it he means anal intercourse, though accordingly, that is an incorrect and narrow definition). He and the other CPers have also declined to admit that even they would approve of abortion in the most extreme and limited circumstances. Their words have demonstrated their desires to install an American Caliphate through repeated citations of Biblical texts as justification for antilibertarian political aims. THEY HAVE COMPLETELY REFUSED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT THEIR PARTY HAS TIES WITH WHITE SELF-AVOWED WHITE SUPREMECIST ORGANIZATIONS AND HAS IN FACT NOMINATED WHITE SUPREMECIST CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT EVERY YEAR UNTIL 1992.

I'm not suprised. Anyone who is so willfully blind and intellectually dishonest as to believe in a boogieman in the sky and that the founders of the nation (slave rapists as they may be) were Christian, is likely to have contempt for facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I can see that others, including yourself, are tiring of our back and forth, so I will gladly end what has become an unproductive exercise. As outlined in the Gilchrist thread, I do think that drawing people from both sides have made it clear&#8212;at least to this limited audience&#8212;that there is no point of reconciliation between the Libertarian and &#8220;conservative&#8221; worldviews. I would sooner join the American Communist Party than be in any way affiliated with the white nationalist hate group masquerading as a political party known as the CP, and I think that I&#8217;m not alone.</p>
	<p>Mr. Campbell has refused to address the fact that human beings are not the only species to engage in sodomy (and by that, I take it he means anal intercourse, though accordingly, that is an incorrect and narrow definition). He and the other CPers have also declined to admit that even they would approve of abortion in the most extreme and limited circumstances. Their words have demonstrated their desires to install an American Caliphate through repeated citations of Biblical texts as justification for antilibertarian political aims. <span class="caps">THEY HAVE COMPLETELY REFUSED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT THEIR PARTY HAS TIES WITH WHITE SELF</span>-AVOWED <span class="caps">WHITE SUPREMECIST ORGANIZATIONS AND HAS IN FACT NOMINATED WHITE SUPREMECIST CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT EVERY YEAR UNTIL 1992</span>.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m not suprised. Anyone who is so willfully blind and intellectually dishonest as to believe in a boogieman in the sky and that the founders of the nation (slave rapists as they may be) were Christian, is likely to have contempt for facts.</p>
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		<title>by: Chris Campbell</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-8162</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 20:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-8162</guid>
					<description>He is VERY big on Jesus Christ (PBUH) and statism.

-I am not statist but Christ is appealed to probably due to fact Bush plays the religious card. Muslism are neither good guys or bad. They are people. Sometimes good, often like 9/11 bad. Though, strong evidence suggestive that hte 9/11 was the Reichstag for Bush.

Question-how do YOU know who comes over border, why and for what purpose? You don't, nor do I, nor does GW. That is the issue.

Here are a few encyclicals against socialism.


http://www.vatican.va/edocs/ENG0214/__P4.HTM

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_28121878_quod-apostolici-muneris_en.html

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_15051891_rerum-novarum_en.html



Again, best to you and your man made world view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>He is <span class="caps">VERY</span> big on Jesus Christ (PBUH) and statism.</p>
	<p>-I am not statist but Christ is appealed to probably due to fact Bush plays the religious card. Muslism are neither good guys or bad. They are people. Sometimes good, often like 9/11 bad. Though, strong evidence suggestive that hte 9/11 was the Reichstag for Bush.</p>
	<p>Question-how do <span class="caps">YOU</span> know who comes over border, why and for what purpose? You don&#8217;t, nor do I, nor does GW. That is the issue.</p>
	<p>Here are a few encyclicals against socialism.</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.vatican.va/edocs/ENG0214/__P4.HTM' rel='nofollow'>http://www.vatican.va/edocs/ENG0214/__P4.HTM</a></p>
	<p><a href='http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_28121878_quod-apostolici-muneris_en.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_28121878_quod-apostolici-muneris_en.html</a></p>
	<p><a href='http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_15051891_rerum-novarum_en.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_15051891_rerum-novarum_en.html</a></p>
	<p>Again, best to you and your man made world view.</p>
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		<title>by: undercover_anarchist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-8152</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 19:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-8152</guid>
					<description>As I'm sure you understand, I agree with paragraphs 1 &amp;#38; 2.

You really should read the letter, though. I think Ahmadinejad would be your new hero. He is VERY big on Jesus Christ (PBUH) and statism.

So let me get this straight: The Muslim states are the &quot;good guys&quot; in the battle vs. the NWO? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but I'm guessing that the World Trade Center could reasonably be taken for a symbol of the NWO, globalization, free trade, etc., right? So if the Muslims--with their book burning, throwing acid in the face of women who wish to read, etc.-- are the good guys, does this mean that, as David Duke says, 9/11 was a good thing?

Furthermore, if Muslim terrorists are the good guys, then why the preoccupation with &quot;border security?&quot; You're not worried about Muslims coming in, since they are anti-abortionists and opponents of the NWO. Do you really consider tomato picking and toilet scrubbing a national security threat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As I&#8217;m sure you understand, I agree with paragraphs 1 &#038; 2.</p>
	<p>You really should read the letter, though. I think Ahmadinejad would be your new hero. He is <span class="caps">VERY</span> big on Jesus Christ (PBUH) and statism.</p>
	<p>So let me get this straight: The Muslim states are the &#8220;good guys&#8221; in the battle vs. the <span class="caps">NWO</span>? I&#8217;m not trying to put words in your mouth, but I&#8217;m guessing that the World Trade Center could reasonably be taken for a symbol of the <span class="caps">NWO</span>, globalization, free trade, etc., right? So if the Muslims&#8212;with their book burning, throwing acid in the face of women who wish to read, etc.&#8212;are the good guys, does this mean that, as David Duke says, 9/11 was a good thing?</p>
	<p>Furthermore, if Muslim terrorists are the good guys, then why the preoccupation with &#8220;border security?&#8221; You&#8217;re not worried about Muslims coming in, since they are anti-abortionists and opponents of the <span class="caps">NWO</span>. Do you really consider tomato picking and toilet scrubbing a national security threat?</p>
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		<title>by: Chris Campbell</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-8148</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 19:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-8148</guid>
					<description>Iran's Govt is THEIR Govt, not ours. We need to stop putting our nose into others business-that is a good way to get enemies.

We could care less about Iran or anyone else's ambition to get Nukes. OUr &quot;friends&quot; the Pakistanians and Chinese have them-yet globalist Bush/RNC and Kerry/DNC could really care less.

Opening China was a paving for NWO- Rockafellar and others held up this brutal dictatorship as a model.

Anyone that is a true Christian would mind their own business.

I did not read the letter, nor do I care-we are going to go to war regardless of what is said or writtne. Iran is the next step to NWO-the NWO cannot tolerate any people of faith. 

We as a nationa-and Europe-are Godless, the only bump inteh road to NWO is Pope and Muslims. They are the only ones fighting abortion, population controllers.

In USA, LDS, Fundamentalists Churches and Trad Catholics only ones talking about this and trying to do something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Iran&#8217;s Govt is <span class="caps">THEIR </span>Govt, not ours. We need to stop putting our nose into others business-that is a good way to get enemies.</p>
	<p>We could care less about Iran or anyone else&#8217;s ambition to get Nukes. OUr &#8220;friends&#8221; the Pakistanians and Chinese have them-yet globalist Bush/RNC and Kerry/DNC could really care less.</p>
	<p>Opening China was a paving for <span class="caps">NWO</span>- Rockafellar and others held up this brutal dictatorship as a model.</p>
	<p>Anyone that is a true Christian would mind their own business.</p>
	<p>I did not read the letter, nor do I care-we are going to go to war regardless of what is said or writtne. Iran is the next step to <span class="caps">NWO</span>-the <span class="caps">NWO</span> cannot tolerate any people of faith.</p>
	<p>We as a nationa-and Europe-are Godless, the only bump inteh road to <span class="caps">NWO</span> is Pope and Muslims. They are the only ones fighting abortion, population controllers.</p>
	<p>In <span class="caps">USA</span>, LDS, Fundamentalists Churches and Trad Catholics only ones talking about this and trying to do something.</p>
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		<title>by: undercover_anarchist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-8111</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 18:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I would like to hear the CP's response to the president of Iran's letter to President Bush.  I would have to think that that if the CP were to elect a president, there would be no objections to a single utterance made by Ahmadinejad in this letter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I would like to hear the CP&#8217;s response to the president of Iran&#8217;s letter to President Bush.  I would have to think that that if the CP were to elect a president, there would be no objections to a single utterance made by Ahmadinejad in this letter.</p>
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		<title>by: undercover_anarchist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-7933</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 13:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Only humans do sodomy? 

a) I guess that's because we are created in &quot;god's image.&quot; Jesus Christ: Divine Assmaster and Hole-y Redeemer!&quot;

b) I know that CP types think that sex-ed should be taught in the home, prefer to teach their own children the &quot;joys of sodomy.&quot; Buttsex: Redneck birth control.

c) Then my childhood dog must have been some sort of human/dog hybrid, maybe blessed by Our Lord and Savior/Sodomy Police Warrior, Jesus H. Christ, Himself, becuase he would try to assblast every male dog that came into my yard.

d) Also, are you familiar with the bonobo? They practice all forms of sodomy with one another. So, wrong again. I guess your &quot;faith-based education&quot; failed you, my friend.

And to be clear: I'm all for the abolition of public schools. In a market-based education system, my child would be segregated from innerbred hate mongers like you and your ilk. Furthermore, the self-selection of CP types into one room school houses taught by Christian Mullahs would hasten your inevitable fall into a subhuman class that can mow our lawns, wash our cars, and clean our toilets--thus allowing hardworking immigrants to rise, and eventually, employ you to do their dirty work. 

What's more, if segregated from the thinking populace, I'm sure your inbreeding would quickly produce genetic abnormalities that would make you more easily distinguishable from normal humans, and eventually might bring about your extinction. Happy days!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Only humans do sodomy?</p>
	<p>a) I guess that&#8217;s because we are created in &#8220;god&#8217;s image.&#8221; Jesus Christ: Divine Assmaster and Hole-y Redeemer!&#8221;</p>
	<p>b) I know that CP types think that sex-ed should be taught in the home, prefer to teach their own children the &#8220;joys of sodomy.&#8221; Buttsex: Redneck birth control.</p>
	<p>c) Then my childhood dog must have been some sort of human/dog hybrid, maybe blessed by Our Lord and Savior/Sodomy Police Warrior, Jesus H. Christ, Himself, becuase he would try to assblast every male dog that came into my yard.</p>
	<p>d) Also, are you familiar with the bonobo? They practice all forms of sodomy with one another. So, wrong again. I guess your &#8220;faith-based education&#8221; failed you, my friend.</p>
	<p>And to be clear: I&#8217;m all for the abolition of public schools. In a market-based education system, my child would be segregated from innerbred hate mongers like you and your ilk. Furthermore, the self-selection of CP types into one room school houses taught by Christian Mullahs would hasten your inevitable fall into a subhuman class that can mow our lawns, wash our cars, and clean our toilets&#8212;thus allowing hardworking immigrants to rise, and eventually, employ you to do their dirty work.</p>
	<p>What&#8217;s more, if segregated from the thinking populace, I&#8217;m sure your inbreeding would quickly produce genetic abnormalities that would make you more easily distinguishable from normal humans, and eventually might bring about your extinction. Happy days!</p>
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		<title>by: Chris Campbell</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-7692</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 16:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>rj Says: 

May 8th, 2006 at 7:37 am 
“Although the rest of the plank backpedals, this is essentially a call for mandatory control of education by Christian religion.”

What? As a person that grew up as a lower middle-class white person, I’d like to ask how you expect my parents to pay for it.


I attended private Catholic school, and my parents had to pay high taxes to the public school-I do not see that authority in the Constitution- as the school taught Godless, socialistic paganism. One of the teacher training courses &quot;How to deal with Christian Right&quot;

 Christians tax dollars at work. I did avoid condom talks, common fighting in the halls, etc.

If you want your kids in schools teaching them the joys of sodomy-something we humans only do- go for it. I was taught the anus was only for waste removal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>rj Says:</p>
	<p>May 8th, 2006 at 7:37 am<br />
&#8220;Although the rest of the plank backpedals, this is essentially a call for mandatory control of education by Christian religion.&#8221;</p>
	<p>What? As a person that grew up as a lower middle-class white person, I&#8217;d like to ask how you expect my parents to pay for it.</p>
	<p>I attended private Catholic school, and my parents had to pay high taxes to the public school-I do not see that authority in the Constitution- as the school taught Godless, socialistic paganism. One of the teacher training courses &#8220;How to deal with Christian Right&#8221;</p>
	<p> Christians tax dollars at work. I did avoid condom talks, common fighting in the halls, etc.</p>
	<p>If you want your kids in schools teaching them the joys of sodomy-something we humans only do- go for it. I was taught the anus was only for waste removal</p>
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		<title>by: Chris Campbell</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-7691</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 16:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Kris Overstreet Says: 

May 5th, 2006 at 7:18 pm 
The issue here is not how much the CP has in common with the LP. The issue is that the CP has one overriding element- an open call to theocracy- which is so abhorrent to me that, should I bolt the LP, I would vote for anything other than any CP candidate.

Essentially the CP is nothing but the LP with a theocratic Christian fundamentalist bent. Unfortunately, that “but” stinks to high heaven (pardon the term).



Again, WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

With all the competing Christian beliefs, how then can we have a Theocracy? Whose Christian view? Catholic? Calvinist?

Christians are not all the same, nor can there be an agreement on doctrine, let alone how to run a nation of 300 million on that doctrine.

As Christ IS the Lord over all the nations (Psalm 2), we do in effect have a theocrat-Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Kris Overstreet Says:</p>
	<p>May 5th, 2006 at 7:18 pm<br />
The issue here is not how much the CP has in common with the LP. The issue is that the CP has one overriding element- an open call to theocracy- which is so abhorrent to me that, should I bolt the LP, I would vote for anything other than any CP candidate.</p>
	<p>Essentially the CP is nothing but the LP with a theocratic Christian fundamentalist bent. Unfortunately, that &#8220;but&#8221; stinks to high heaven (pardon the term).</p>
	<p>Again, <span class="caps">WRONG</span><img src="!" alt="" border="0" /><img src="!" alt="" border="0" /><img src="!" alt="" border="0" />!</p>
	<p>With all the competing Christian beliefs, how then can we have a Theocracy? Whose Christian view? Catholic? Calvinist?</p>
	<p>Christians are not all the same, nor can there be an agreement on doctrine, let alone how to run a nation of 300 million on that doctrine.</p>
	<p>As Christ IS the Lord over all the nations (Psalm 2), we do in effect have a theocrat-Christ.</p>
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		<title>by: undercover_anarchist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-7690</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 16:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Carl: Two questions; (1) What state; (2) What is the point you're trying to make? Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Carl: Two questions; (1) What state; (2) What is the point you&#8217;re trying to make? Thanks</p>
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		<title>by: rj</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-7687</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 12:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-7687</guid>
					<description>&quot;Although the rest of the plank backpedals, this is essentially a call for mandatory control of education by Christian religion.&quot;

What? As a person that grew up as a lower middle-class white person, I'd like to ask how you expect my parents to pay for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Although the rest of the plank backpedals, this is essentially a call for mandatory control of education by Christian religion.&#8221;</p>
	<p>What? As a person that grew up as a lower middle-class white person, I&#8217;d like to ask how you expect my parents to pay for it.</p>
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		<title>by: Carl Milsted</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-7686</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 12:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-7686</guid>
					<description>Have a look at your STATE constitution. Look at the preamble of other state's constitutions.

e.g.

Objects of government. We the people of Maine, in order to establish justice, insure tranquility, provide for our mutual defense, promote our common welfare, and secure to ourselves and our posterity the blessings of liberty, acknowledging with grateful hearts the goodness of the &lt;b&gt;Sovereign Ruler of the Universe&lt;/b&gt; in affording us an opportunity, so favorable to the design; and, imploring God's aid and direction in its accomplishment, do agree to form ourselves into a free and independent State, by the style and title of the State of Maine and do ordain and establish the following Constitution for the government of the same.
 
We, the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to &lt;b&gt;Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations,&lt;/b&gt; for the preservation of the American Union and the existence of our civil, political and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those blessings to us and our posterity, do, for the more certain security thereof and for the better government of this State, ordain and establish this Constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Have a look at your <span class="caps">STATE</span> constitution. Look at the preamble of other state&#8217;s constitutions.</p>
	<p>e.g.</p>
	<p>Objects of government. We the people of Maine, in order to establish justice, insure tranquility, provide for our mutual defense, promote our common welfare, and secure to ourselves and our posterity the blessings of liberty, acknowledging with grateful hearts the goodness of the <b>Sovereign Ruler of the Universe</b> in affording us an opportunity, so favorable to the design; and, imploring God&#8217;s aid and direction in its accomplishment, do agree to form ourselves into a free and independent State, by the style and title of the State of Maine and do ordain and establish the following Constitution for the government of the same.</p>
	<p>We, the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to <b>Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations,</b> for the preservation of the American Union and the existence of our civil, political and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those blessings to us and our posterity, do, for the more certain security thereof and for the better government of this State, ordain and establish this Constitution.</p>
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		<title>by: George Phillies</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-7416</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 03:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-7416</guid>
					<description>Carl writes
&quot;If you can kill an embryo, why can’t you tinker with it? ... We are talking about the survival of humanity qua humanity.&quot;

News that we could 'tinker' with embroyos to cure genetic diseases, conditions that condemn the new born to a life of pain and suffering or worse, would be a great boon for humanity.  We are in no sense talking about the survival of humanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Carl writes<br />
&#8220;If you can kill an embryo, why can&#8217;t you tinker with it? ... We are talking about the survival of humanity qua humanity.&#8221;</p>
	<p>News that we could &#8216;tinker&#8217; with embroyos to cure genetic diseases, conditions that condemn the new born to a life of pain and suffering or worse, would be a great boon for humanity.  We are in no sense talking about the survival of humanity.</p>
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		<title>by: undercover_anarchist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-7414</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 00:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-7414</guid>
					<description>Once again, I am in complete agreement with the comments above.

And to say that the major parties are the &quot;real adversary&quot; isn't true. The real adversary is intrusional big government, which the CP represents far more than the two majors. The CP is a right-wing socialist bloq masquarading as a freedom-loving political party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Once again, I am in complete agreement with the comments above.</p>
	<p>And to say that the major parties are the &#8220;real adversary&#8221; isn&#8217;t true. The real adversary is intrusional big government, which the CP represents far more than the two majors. The CP is a right-wing socialist bloq masquarading as a freedom-loving political party.</p>
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		<title>by: Kris Overstreet</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-7413</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 00:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/05/03/statement-from-oregon-cp-chair/#comment-7413</guid>
					<description>The issue here is not how much the CP has in common with the LP. The issue is that the CP has one overriding element- an open call to theocracy- which is so abhorrent to me that, should I bolt the LP, I would vote for anything other than any CP candidate.

Essentially the CP is nothing but the LP with a theocratic Christian fundamentalist bent. Unfortunately, that &quot;but&quot; stinks to high heaven (pardon the term).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The issue here is not how much the CP has in common with the LP. The issue is that the CP has one overriding element- an open call to theocracy- which is so abhorrent to me that, should I bolt the LP, I would vote for anything other than any CP candidate.</p>
	<p>Essentially the CP is nothing but the LP with a theocratic Christian fundamentalist bent. Unfortunately, that &#8220;but&#8221; stinks to high heaven (pardon the term).</p>
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