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		<title>by: Sharon Killer</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 04:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Sharon Killer</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Joey Dauben</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 02:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It's not so much the paper candidates in theory, just the fact that when free media is given, nobody takes it seriously, hence the reason(s) I'm criticizing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s not so much the paper candidates in theory, just the fact that when free media is given, nobody takes it seriously, hence the reason(s) I&#8217;m criticizing.</p>
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		<title>by: Wes Benedict</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/09/14/more-trouble-for-paper-candidates/#comment-55113</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 06:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Joey Dauben,

I sent the note below to you at the e-mail address from which you sent a note to me on August 20.  Did you get it?  Also, I don't believe we've received that donation you promised.  Let me know if I can help.

--Wes

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Fwd: Lib head shots -Update
Date: 8/30/2006, 8:24 PM
From: Wes Benedict 
To: Joey Dauben 

Joey,

Can you get a head shot of Todd Pillippi?  He has failed to respond to
repeated requests from the state party.

Thanks,
-- 
Wes Benedict
Executive Director
Libertarian Party of Texas
512-442-4910

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: LP members/Ellis County
Date: 8/20/2006, 3:39 PM
From: Joey Dauben 
To: logic@jrlogic.dyndns.org
cc: wesliberty@aol.com

I know I've kinda been hard on the third parties publicly 
(elliscountyobserver.com), but shhhh, I'm re-joining the party and if 
the Republicans here keep screwing around, I'm running in 2008 as a 
Libertarian. I'd like to start small, like, say precinct chair and get 
my college campus in Waxahachie to elect me.

Or, I might run countywide. I'd really do countywide for the name ID and 
to teach the wayward GOP a lesson (and land the Democrats a job).

Actually, I want to do a Ron Paul and be members of both the LP and GOP.

I work at a medium-sized print shop now and my boss is arch-conservative 
so he's willing to help fellow conservative-libertarians get elected 
(we're forming a PAC as we speak), so if you guys are in the hunt for 
some connections in the propoganda arena, let me know.

My intent wasn't to give you a sales pitch, but to tell you of my intent 
election-wise, and get some real conservatives recruited and elected. 
I'm not going to have the GOP do locally what they have done nationally. 
Phil Smart &amp;#38; Todd Phillippi are on the ballot as LPers and are from 
Ellis County. Could have had a 3rd one locally if I didn't F up the 
paperwork. But anyway, 2008 is going to be a good year. This fall will 
be a barometer to decide where this county wants to go.

So keep me informed and within a few minutes, the LP should have a few 
bucks from me.



&quot;If you want to be rich, just find out what everyone is doing and do 
exactly the opposite.&quot; - Rich Dad, Poor Dad

Home: 972-617-2183
Cell: 972-639-6059
Work: 817-640-6471
AOL IM: joey75154
Yahoo: joeydauben8
www.myspace.com/joeydauben
www.elliscountyobserver.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Joey Dauben,</p>
	<p>I sent the note below to you at the e-mail address from which you sent a note to me on August 20.  Did you get it?  Also, I don&#8217;t believe we&#8217;ve received that donation you promised.  Let me know if I can help.<br />
&#8212;Wes<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;Original Message&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;Subject: Fwd: Lib head shots -Update<br />
Date: 8/30/2006, 8:24 PM<br />
From: Wes Benedict<br />
To: Joey Dauben</p>
	<p>Joey,</p>
	<p>Can you get a head shot of Todd Pillippi?  He has failed to respond to<br />
repeated requests from the state party.</p>
	<p>Thanks,&#8212;Wes Benedict<br />
Executive Director<br />
Libertarian Party of Texas<br />
512-442-4910<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;Original Message&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;Subject: LP members/Ellis County<br />
Date: 8/20/2006, 3:39 PM<br />
From: Joey Dauben<br />
To: <a href="mailto:logic@jrlogic.dyndns.org">logic@jrlogic.dyndns.org</a><br />
cc: <a href="mailto:wesliberty@aol.com">wesliberty@aol.com</a></p>
	<p>I know I&#8217;ve kinda been hard on the third parties publicly<br />
(elliscountyobserver.com), but shhhh, I&#8217;m re-joining the party and if<br />
the Republicans here keep screwing around, I&#8217;m running in 2008 as a<br />
Libertarian. I&#8217;d like to start small, like, say precinct chair and get<br />
my college campus in Waxahachie to elect me.</p>
	<p>Or, I might run countywide. I&#8217;d really do countywide for the name ID and<br />
to teach the wayward <span class="caps">GOP</span> a lesson (and land the Democrats a job).</p>
	<p>Actually, I want to do a Ron Paul and be members of both the LP and <span class="caps">GOP</span>.</p>
	<p>I work at a medium-sized print shop now and my boss is arch-conservative<br />
so he&#8217;s willing to help fellow conservative-libertarians get elected<br />
(we&#8217;re forming a <span class="caps">PAC</span> as we speak), so if you guys are in the hunt for<br />
some connections in the propoganda arena, let me know.</p>
	<p>My intent wasn&#8217;t to give you a sales pitch, but to tell you of my intent<br />
election-wise, and get some real conservatives recruited and elected.<br />
I&#8217;m not going to have the <span class="caps">GOP</span> do locally what they have done nationally.<br />
Phil Smart &#038; Todd Phillippi are on the ballot as LPers and are from<br />
Ellis County. Could have had a 3rd one locally if I didn&#8217;t F up the<br />
paperwork. But anyway, 2008 is going to be a good year. This fall will<br />
be a barometer to decide where this county wants to go.</p>
	<p>So keep me informed and within a few minutes, the LP should have a few<br />
bucks from me.</p>
	<p>&#8220;If you want to be rich, just find out what everyone is doing and do<br />
exactly the opposite.&#8221; &#8211; Rich Dad, Poor Dad</p>
	<p>Home: 972-617-2183<br />
Cell: 972-639-6059<br />
Work: 817-640-6471<br />
<span class="caps">AOL IM</span>: joey75154<br />
Yahoo: joeydauben8<br />
<a href='http://www.myspace.com/joeydauben' rel='nofollow'>www.myspace.com/joeydauben</a><br />
<a href='http://www.elliscountyobserver.com' rel='nofollow'>www.elliscountyobserver.com</a></p>
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		<title>by: Joey Dauben</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/09/14/more-trouble-for-paper-candidates/#comment-55058</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well speaking from a journalist's perspective, one who tries to inform the public of all of the races and people running, it is a disservice to even be on the ballot if that candidate won't take the time out to just give his or her opinions.

It's free media people!

And you wonder why Libertarians and Greens and all the other minor parties complain about not being taken seriously. Hell, who would when you have candidates who refuse to answer questionnaires or meet with editorial boards.

Here's a solution: come up with a very generic press release template and an issues template. Upon sign-up for all paper/real candidates, the party (whichever party that is) should plug in the name (Al Smith) into the press releases. And then give copies electronically to the candidates (keeping one for themselves of course) so that when the major newspapers call (the Dallas Morning News is the largest in the state) or email, you'll have what you need already done.

It's more about marketing efficiency than anything. Why would I want to vote for a Libertarian who's &quot;just on the ballot as a paper candidate?&quot;

I would like to point out that one of the TX LP candidates, Supreme Court candidate Todd Phillippi, is my lawyer and a good friend. He's also from Ellis County, Texas. So the Texas LP -- I believe -- will be saved from ballot access petitions the next go-around because of a guy from Ellis County -- I'm very proud of this, as you can tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well speaking from a journalist&#8217;s perspective, one who tries to inform the public of all of the races and people running, it is a disservice to even be on the ballot if that candidate won&#8217;t take the time out to just give his or her opinions.</p>
	<p>It&#8217;s free media people!</p>
	<p>And you wonder why Libertarians and Greens and all the other minor parties complain about not being taken seriously. Hell, who would when you have candidates who refuse to answer questionnaires or meet with editorial boards.</p>
	<p>Here&#8217;s a solution: come up with a very generic press release template and an issues template. Upon sign-up for all paper/real candidates, the party (whichever party that is) should plug in the name (Al Smith) into the press releases. And then give copies electronically to the candidates (keeping one for themselves of course) so that when the major newspapers call (the Dallas Morning News is the largest in the state) or email, you&#8217;ll have what you need already done.</p>
	<p>It&#8217;s more about marketing efficiency than anything. Why would I want to vote for a Libertarian who&#8217;s &#8220;just on the ballot as a paper candidate?&#8221;</p>
	<p>I would like to point out that one of the <span class="caps">TX LP</span> candidates, Supreme Court candidate Todd Phillippi, is my lawyer and a good friend. He&#8217;s also from Ellis County, Texas. So the Texas <span class="caps">LP </span>&#8212;I believe&#8212;will be saved from ballot access petitions the next go-around because of a guy from Ellis County&#8212;I&#8217;m very proud of this, as you can tell.</p>
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		<title>by: Kris Overstreet</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/09/14/more-trouble-for-paper-candidates/#comment-55036</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A large part of the problem is that state law forbids any campaigning for a judicial position which in any way might touch on any case, actual or potential, that might come before the court in question. That means no judicial candidate can run on any issues other than personalities- &quot;Vote for me, I'm a nice guy.&quot; This tends to discourage issue-oriented candidates from running for judicial races, even if they are qualified (10 years as either attorney or judge, for statewide judicial posts).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A large part of the problem is that state law forbids any campaigning for a judicial position which in any way might touch on any case, actual or potential, that might come before the court in question. That means no judicial candidate can run on any issues other than personalities- &#8220;Vote for me, I&#8217;m a nice guy.&#8221; This tends to discourage issue-oriented candidates from running for judicial races, even if they are qualified (10 years as either attorney or judge, for statewide judicial posts).</p>
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		<title>by: Sean Haugh</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/09/14/more-trouble-for-paper-candidates/#comment-55019</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The ballot itself is far and away the biggest piece of media in any race.  I agree that answering questionnaires and requests for media interviews is pretty darn minimal.  Still, I'd rather have a full slate with some volunteer candidates because of the positive impression that makes on the voters.  A full slate looks like an organized party that is ready to lead at any level of government.  One candidate on the ballot could be a cult of personality or just a lone yahoo.  While it's a small sample size, my post-mortem of these campaigns show that candidates in counties with full slates get about 15% more votes than candidates in counties with three or fewer party candidates.

I've recruited a lot of &quot;paper candidates&quot; in NC.  Many remain so, but sometimes they get the bug and turn into very active candidates.  My brightest example is Rachel Mills of the &quot;Ladies of Liberty&quot; calendar fame, but other ballot fillers I've recruited have gone on to become county chairs and activists for the party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The ballot itself is far and away the biggest piece of media in any race.  I agree that answering questionnaires and requests for media interviews is pretty darn minimal.  Still, I&#8217;d rather have a full slate with some volunteer candidates because of the positive impression that makes on the voters.  A full slate looks like an organized party that is ready to lead at any level of government.  One candidate on the ballot could be a cult of personality or just a lone yahoo.  While it&#8217;s a small sample size, my post-mortem of these campaigns show that candidates in counties with full slates get about 15% more votes than candidates in counties with three or fewer party candidates.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;ve recruited a lot of &#8220;paper candidates&#8221; in NC.  Many remain so, but sometimes they get the bug and turn into very active candidates.  My brightest example is Rachel Mills of the &#8220;Ladies of Liberty&#8221; calendar fame, but other ballot fillers I&#8217;ve recruited have gone on to become county chairs and activists for the party.</p>
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		<title>by: Richard Winger</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/09/14/more-trouble-for-paper-candidates/#comment-54945</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 05:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>No one can run for these posts unless they have been Texas attorneys for a certain number of years (I think 5 years).  It's not easy for the Libertarian Party to find candidates who meet the qualifications to hold the job, but it's essential that the party run for these posts.  The party must poll 5% for one statewide race, and usually it's the judicial statewide partisan posts that give the best opportunity, because Democrats don't usually nominate for all these positions.  So the Libertarian judicial nominees are performing a huge service, just being willing to be listed.  They deserve credit for just being paper candidates.  If Texas had a better ballot access law, then the Libertarians could afford the luxury of not running judicial candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>No one can run for these posts unless they have been Texas attorneys for a certain number of years (I think 5 years).  It&#8217;s not easy for the Libertarian Party to find candidates who meet the qualifications to hold the job, but it&#8217;s essential that the party run for these posts.  The party must poll 5% for one statewide race, and usually it&#8217;s the judicial statewide partisan posts that give the best opportunity, because Democrats don&#8217;t usually nominate for all these positions.  So the Libertarian judicial nominees are performing a huge service, just being willing to be listed.  They deserve credit for just being paper candidates.  If Texas had a better ballot access law, then the Libertarians could afford the luxury of not running judicial candidates.</p>
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		<title>by: Hammer of Truth &#187; Most Organized Libertarian State?</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/09/14/more-trouble-for-paper-candidates/#comment-54934</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 05:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Update: Paper candidates end up hurting the party, no joke. [...]</description>
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