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		<title>by: Mike N.</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/11/08/a-few-more-tidbits/#comment-67936</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;(Now, it would have been reasonable to question making such a major national effort for a three-way congressional race in the first place.&lt;/i&gt;

BINGO!!  See, even the retard caucus can be rational at times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>(Now, it would have been reasonable to question making such a major national effort for a three-way congressional race in the first place.</i></p>
	<p><span class="caps">BINGO</span>!!  See, even the retard caucus can be rational at times.</p>
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		<title>by: Mike N.</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/11/08/a-few-more-tidbits/#comment-67935</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;‘Twas a trifle petty of me, but Mr. Nelson has been referring to the “Libertarian Retard Caucus” repeatedly at HoT in the comments area. I realize my stature in Libertarian circles would be higher if I rose above such potshots, but frankly, I am not sure I care any more.&lt;/i&gt;

Finally figuring out why your &quot;caucus&quot; is referred to as the Retard Caucus are ya?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8216;Twas a trifle petty of me, but Mr. Nelson has been referring to the &#8220;Libertarian Retard Caucus&#8221; repeatedly at HoT in the comments area. I realize my stature in Libertarian circles would be higher if I rose above such potshots, but frankly, I am not sure I care any more.</i></p>
	<p>Finally figuring out why your &#8220;caucus&#8221; is referred to as the Retard Caucus are ya?</p>
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		<title>by: NewFederalist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/11/08/a-few-more-tidbits/#comment-67112</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't know either Tom Bryant or Mike Nelson but from what Bryant seems to think of Nelson he must be the adolescent Jesus or something! Let this guy fight his own battles and figure it out for himself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I don&#8217;t know either Tom Bryant or Mike Nelson but from what Bryant seems to think of Nelson he must be the adolescent Jesus or something! Let this guy fight his own battles and figure it out for himself!</p>
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		<title>by: NewFederalist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/11/08/a-few-more-tidbits/#comment-67111</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't know either Tom Bryant or Mike Nelson but from what Bryant seems to think of Nelson he must be the adolescent Jesus or something! Let this guy fight his own battles and figured it out for himself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I don&#8217;t know either Tom Bryant or Mike Nelson but from what Bryant seems to think of Nelson he must be the adolescent Jesus or something! Let this guy fight his own battles and figured it out for himself!</p>
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		<title>by: Tom Bryant</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/11/08/a-few-more-tidbits/#comment-67095</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I can understand your feelings about the juvenile name calling of &quot;Libertarian Retard Caucus.&quot;

This is another lesson that he will learn in time.  Disagreements with allies come up all the time, and his manner of expressing those disagreements will burn bridges down the road.  It will take a while for him to realize the benefit of disagreeing in a more mature way, much like it may take a young worker a while to learn the benefit of giving notice before quitting a job.

Mike's heart is in the right direction.  It just takes experience to learn some of the finer points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I can understand your feelings about the juvenile name calling of &#8220;Libertarian Retard Caucus.&#8221;</p>
	<p>This is another lesson that he will learn in time.  Disagreements with allies come up all the time, and his manner of expressing those disagreements will burn bridges down the road.  It will take a while for him to realize the benefit of disagreeing in a more mature way, much like it may take a young worker a while to learn the benefit of giving notice before quitting a job.</p>
	<p>Mike&#8217;s heart is in the right direction.  It just takes experience to learn some of the finer points.</p>
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		<title>by: Carl</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/11/08/a-few-more-tidbits/#comment-67063</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>'Twas a trifle petty of me, but Mr. Nelson has been referring to the &quot;Libertarian Retard Caucus&quot; repeatedly at HoT in the comments area. I realize my stature in Libertarian circles would be higher if I rose above such potshots, but frankly, I am not sure I care any more.

Technically, I am not a member of the national LP, anyway, as I &lt;i&gt;do &lt;/i&gt; advocate the initiation of force under some circumstances -- as do 99+% of the American people. And this is a significant reason why the LP is going nowhere expensively. It is too exclusive to be a real political party.

If you don't have enough members in the district, including members with decent contact lists, you end up with embarrassing rallies with few attendees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8216;Twas a trifle petty of me, but Mr. Nelson has been referring to the &#8220;Libertarian Retard Caucus&#8221; repeatedly at HoT in the comments area. I realize my stature in Libertarian circles would be higher if I rose above such potshots, but frankly, I am not sure I care any more.</p>
	<p>Technically, I am not a member of the national LP, anyway, as I <i>do </i> advocate the initiation of force under some circumstances&#8212;as do 99+% of the American people. And this is a significant reason why the LP is going nowhere expensively. It is too exclusive to be a real political party.</p>
	<p>If you don&#8217;t have enough members in the district, including members with decent contact lists, you end up with embarrassing rallies with few attendees.</p>
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		<title>by: Tom Bryant</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/11/08/a-few-more-tidbits/#comment-67042</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/11/08/a-few-more-tidbits/#comment-67042</guid>
					<description>While it is clear that Mike Nelson is making himself look pretty bad in this thread, please keep in mind that he is very young and it is likely he hasn't taken a statistics course yet.  Analyzing results of an election can be complicated due to the many varibles involved in every campaign.  I appreciate his enthusiasm for looking at the results and respect his desire to use his time to contribute what he feels are useful points to the discussion.  I would though, urge him to be a little more humble and take in the other points being discussed to futher his knowledge of the subject at hand.

Mike's blogging at HoT may not be as good as some of the others, but we all have to start somewhere.  Let's not shoot him down while he's still getting his wings.  Constructive criticism is best,and even though he outwardly appears to reject that (common for his age), internally he is digesting all that information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>While it is clear that Mike Nelson is making himself look pretty bad in this thread, please keep in mind that he is very young and it is likely he hasn&#8217;t taken a statistics course yet.  Analyzing results of an election can be complicated due to the many varibles involved in every campaign.  I appreciate his enthusiasm for looking at the results and respect his desire to use his time to contribute what he feels are useful points to the discussion.  I would though, urge him to be a little more humble and take in the other points being discussed to futher his knowledge of the subject at hand.</p>
	<p>Mike&#8217;s blogging at HoT may not be as good as some of the others, but we all have to start somewhere.  Let&#8217;s not shoot him down while he&#8217;s still getting his wings.  Constructive criticism is best,and even though he outwardly appears to reject that (common for his age), internally he is digesting all that information.</p>
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		<title>by: Carl Milsted</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/11/08/a-few-more-tidbits/#comment-66834</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Remember, Mike N. is part of the Libertarian Retard Caucus. This is why he cannot differentiate between two and three way races.

That Badnarik was in a three-way is the reason why many opted to support Smither instead. Smither's race was somewhere between a two and three way contest. While there were only two candidates on the ballot, the write-in campaigns from the Republican side were strong.

I did a study on the difference between two and three way races that was published in the May 2001 edition of Liberty. For lower state house races in the 12 states studied, Libertarians did about 4 times better when in two-way vs. three way races. (I did not count other minor parties when determining what constitutes a two, vs three way.)

In a two way race, the Lesser of Two Evils dilemma goes away. You get around 10 percent for free just for being on the ballot due to protest votes.

Trying to dis a campaign for faring worse in a three-way contest than one in a two way contest is truly retarded.

(Now, it would have been reasonable to question making such a major national effort for a three-way congressional race in the first place.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Remember, Mike N. is part of the Libertarian Retard Caucus. This is why he cannot differentiate between two and three way races.</p>
	<p>That Badnarik was in a three-way is the reason why many opted to support Smither instead. Smither&#8217;s race was somewhere between a two and three way contest. While there were only two candidates on the ballot, the write-in campaigns from the Republican side were strong.</p>
	<p>I did a study on the difference between two and three way races that was published in the May 2001 edition of Liberty. For lower state house races in the 12 states studied, Libertarians did about 4 times better when in two-way vs. three way races. (I did not count other minor parties when determining what constitutes a two, vs three way.)</p>
	<p>In a two way race, the Lesser of Two Evils dilemma goes away. You get around 10 percent for free just for being on the ballot due to protest votes.</p>
	<p>Trying to dis a campaign for faring worse in a three-way contest than one in a two way contest is truly retarded.</p>
	<p>(Now, it would have been reasonable to question making such a major national effort for a three-way congressional race in the first place.)</p>
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		<title>by: Austin Cassidy</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/11/08/a-few-more-tidbits/#comment-66743</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>As to the Republicans &quot;screwing&quot; Bob Smither in Texas, I kind of feel like I have to point out that the GOP doesn'ts owe the LP anything.   Heck, Libertarians attempted to swing Wisconsin against Bush in 2004... 

And to say that someone who got a few percent was screwed by someone who pulled in 40% just doesn't make any sense either.  That's like Ralph Nader saying:  &quot;Damnit, Al Gore... if you had just dropped out and endorsed me, I could have won this thing!  See what you did?&quot;

Now if the write-in had gotten fewer votes than Smither you might have some ground to argue that it was stupid for them to run her.  But Smither was no where even remotely close.  Not even in the meaningless special election where he was the only non-Republican on the ballot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As to the Republicans &#8220;screwing&#8221; Bob Smither in Texas, I kind of feel like I have to point out that the <span class="caps">GOP</span> doesn&#8217;ts owe the LP anything.   Heck, Libertarians attempted to swing Wisconsin against Bush in 2004&#8230;</p>
	<p>And to say that someone who got a few percent was screwed by someone who pulled in 40% just doesn&#8217;t make any sense either.  That&#8217;s like Ralph Nader saying:  &#8220;Damnit, Al Gore&#8230; if you had just dropped out and endorsed me, I could have won this thing!  See what you did?&#8221;</p>
	<p>Now if the write-in had gotten fewer votes than Smither you might have some ground to argue that it was stupid for them to run her.  But Smither was no where even remotely close.  Not even in the meaningless special election where he was the only non-Republican on the ballot.</p>
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		<title>by: Austin Cassidy</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/11/08/a-few-more-tidbits/#comment-66742</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>On the 2 vs 3-way race measurement, of course there's a difference.

The Texas LP issued a press release comparing this year's results with those from the past.  They broke it down, for measurement purposes, into 2-way and 3-way races.

http://www.tx.lp.org/release-20061108.shtml

Heck, Badnarik received someting like 16% of the vote as a paper candidate for state house back in 2000 or 2002... and then 2% or 3% in a 3-way race for the same seat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>On the 2 vs 3-way race measurement, of course there&#8217;s a difference.</p>
	<p>The Texas LP issued a press release comparing this year&#8217;s results with those from the past.  They broke it down, for measurement purposes, into 2-way and 3-way races.</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.tx.lp.org/release-20061108.shtml' rel='nofollow'>http://www.tx.lp.org/release-20061108.shtml</a></p>
	<p>Heck, Badnarik received someting like 16% of the vote as a paper candidate for state house back in 2000 or 2002&#8230; and then 2% or 3% in a 3-way race for the same seat.</p>
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		<title>by: undercover_anarchist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/11/08/a-few-more-tidbits/#comment-66705</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 11:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm so glad that someone with the class, decorum, and intelligence of Mike N. is a blogger at Hammer of Truth.

Hmmm....

How long until he is &quot;fired&quot; from that position? What's the over/under?

His immaturity and stupidity almost make his friend Allen Hacker look intelligent by comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m so glad that someone with the class, decorum, and intelligence of Mike N. is a blogger at Hammer of Truth.</p>
	<p>Hmmm&#8230;.</p>
	<p>How long until he is &#8220;fired&#8221; from that position? What&#8217;s the over/under?</p>
	<p>His immaturity and stupidity almost make his friend Allen Hacker look intelligent by comparison.</p>
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		<title>by: Mike N.</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/11/08/a-few-more-tidbits/#comment-66684</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 07:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>LOL Exactly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">LOL </span>Exactly.</p>
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		<title>by: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/11/08/a-few-more-tidbits/#comment-66682</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 07:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Because putting people that can't win any race as our presidential candiate rocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Because putting people that can&#8217;t win any race as our presidential candiate rocks.</p>
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		<title>by: Mike N.</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/11/08/a-few-more-tidbits/#comment-66677</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 06:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Okay, I just hope for future races, you don't run Ed Thompson in an un-winnable race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Okay, I just hope for future races, you don&#8217;t run Ed Thompson in an un-winnable race.</p>
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		<title>by: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/11/08/a-few-more-tidbits/#comment-66675</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 06:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Okay, I just hope for future races, you don't look for inspriation from a libertarian who got 13% in a 2-party race instead of one that got 10% in a 3-party race.

Like I hope you don't think steve osborne's(nothing against him, a good guy) is better then Ed Thompson and is more capable at winnable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Okay, I just hope for future races, you don&#8217;t look for inspriation from a libertarian who got 13% in a 2-party race instead of one that got 10% in a 3-party race.</p>
	<p>Like I hope you don&#8217;t think steve osborne&#8217;s(nothing against him, a good guy) is better then Ed Thompson and is more capable at winnable.</p>
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