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		<title>by: tom copeland</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/04/unity-08-launches-new-website/#comment-147261</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Fdail</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/04/unity-08-launches-new-website/#comment-117109</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Not bad, it really can occur</description>
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		<title>by: EB Degner</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/04/unity-08-launches-new-website/#comment-111113</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Just what do you think the American People are looking for in a Candidate in 08 ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Just what do you think the American People are looking for in a Candidate in 08 ?</p>
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		<title>by: Phil Sawyer</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/04/unity-08-launches-new-website/#comment-74708</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 02:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Actually, Mr. Guliani has a lot more support in the Republican Party than is generally known.  I think that is because he has great appeal to the fiscal conservatives who do not consider themselves part of the Religious Right - and there are a lot of them!

RJ is probably correct about Mayor Bloomberg seeing the writing on the wall, so to speak, about his chances at the GOP nomination.  He seems to be more of the Independent type than either Guliani or John McCain.

RJ is also correct in thinking that it is very unlikely that Senator McCain would pull a John Anderson.  The time for that would have been in 2000.  He did not &quot;strike when the iron was hot.&quot;  It would be more difficult to do so when the time has come and gone.  Not impossible though.  The Senator admires Teddy Roosevelt and, under the right circumstances (like the Republican Party splitting into two or more pieces), he might go the independent route.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Actually, Mr. Guliani has a lot more support in the Republican Party than is generally known.  I think that is because he has great appeal to the fiscal conservatives who do not consider themselves part of the Religious Right &#8211; and there are a lot of them!</p>
	<p>RJ is probably correct about Mayor Bloomberg seeing the writing on the wall, so to speak, about his chances at the <span class="caps">GOP</span> nomination.  He seems to be more of the Independent type than either Guliani or John McCain.</p>
	<p>RJ is also correct in thinking that it is very unlikely that Senator McCain would pull a John Anderson.  The time for that would have been in 2000.  He did not &#8220;strike when the iron was hot.&#8221;  It would be more difficult to do so when the time has come and gone.  Not impossible though.  The Senator admires Teddy Roosevelt and, under the right circumstances (like the Republican Party splitting into two or more pieces), he might go the independent route.</p>
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		<title>by: Sean Scallon</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/04/unity-08-launches-new-website/#comment-74596</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 19:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If Rudy Guliani was smart, he would abandon any hopes of winning the GOP nomination and go with this Unity '08 group. Because it will fit him more than trying to convince Bob Jones University students in Greenville, SC to vote for him when there's a snowball's chance in hell that they will. This sounds like more of a vehicle for Guliani than Bloomberg and Guliani has the stature and the access to money to make it work. Hell, Bloomberg could finance the damn thing.

I just think the GOP is just too small for Guliani to make it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If Rudy Guliani was smart, he would abandon any hopes of winning the <span class="caps">GOP</span> nomination and go with this Unity &#8216;08 group. Because it will fit him more than trying to convince Bob Jones University students in Greenville, SC to vote for him when there&#8217;s a snowball&#8217;s chance in hell that they will. This sounds like more of a vehicle for Guliani than Bloomberg and Guliani has the stature and the access to money to make it work. Hell, Bloomberg could finance the damn thing.</p>
	<p>I just think the <span class="caps">GOP</span> is just too small for Guliani to make it.</p>
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		<title>by: rj</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/04/unity-08-launches-new-website/#comment-74480</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 13:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/04/unity-08-launches-new-website/#comment-74480</guid>
					<description>&quot;I’d say that it’s cause for concern. If Unity ‘08 ends up with a McCain/Lieberman ticket or if Bloomberg gets their nomination I’d call that a bad thing, a very bad thing in fact.&quot;

1.) I cannot see McCain with any nomination except the Republican nod. If he loses to Romney he'll go along with it. My opinion.
2.) With the result of this recent election (and his totally failed 2004 presidential bid), I think Lieberman is done on the federal stage.
3.) Bloomberg would be interesting. By most accounts (not all I know), he has run New York City well, which is a harder job than Governor of some states. My presidential thoughts of Bloomberg are this:

a.) He is currently a somewhat-fiscal conservative, social liberal Republican.
b.) The fiscal conservative, social liberal class -almost all of the Republicans in the northeast - are currently disenfranchised from the country's politics right now. There are Republicans that are fiscal liberal and social conservative and there are Democrats that are fiscal liberal but more so than Republicans and social liberal. I think Bloomberg sees this.
c.) Bloomberg knows he would never get the Republican nomination for President. One reason I wonder why Giuliani is even bothering to try.
d.) The man has a lot of money, but still takes the subway to work everyday.
e.) I think the partisan tone of the last few years, the problems that have occurred, and the complete lack of solution from both parties is making the coming election ripe for &quot;a pox on both your houses&quot; vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;I&#8217;d say that it&#8217;s cause for concern. If Unity &#8216;08 ends up with a McCain/Lieberman ticket or if Bloomberg gets their nomination I&#8217;d call that a bad thing, a very bad thing in fact.&#8221;</p>
	<p>1.) I cannot see McCain with any nomination except the Republican nod. If he loses to Romney he&#8217;ll go along with it. My opinion.<br />
2.) With the result of this recent election (and his totally failed 2004 presidential bid), I think Lieberman is done on the federal stage.<br />
3.) Bloomberg would be interesting. By most accounts (not all I know), he has run New York City well, which is a harder job than Governor of some states. My presidential thoughts of Bloomberg are this:</p>
	<p>a.) He is currently a somewhat-fiscal conservative, social liberal Republican.<br />
b.) The fiscal conservative, social liberal class -almost all of the Republicans in the northeast &#8211; are currently disenfranchised from the country&#8217;s politics right now. There are Republicans that are fiscal liberal and social conservative and there are Democrats that are fiscal liberal but more so than Republicans and social liberal. I think Bloomberg sees this.<br />
c.) Bloomberg knows he would never get the Republican nomination for President. One reason I wonder why Giuliani is even bothering to try.<br />
d.) The man has a lot of money, but still takes the subway to work everyday.<br />
e.) I think the partisan tone of the last few years, the problems that have occurred, and the complete lack of solution from both parties is making the coming election ripe for &#8220;a pox on both your houses&#8221; vote.</p>
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		<title>by: Phil Sawyer</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/04/unity-08-launches-new-website/#comment-74327</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 04:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>As a person who is just a garden variety member of Unity08, I really do not know enough about the organization yet to say too much.  It does seem to me, though, that rj is correct about it taking someone of the stature of Ross Perot to run an independent and/or third party presidential campaign that will be taken seriously by the general public - and, I would add, the bourgeois news media.

Member:  CUIP; GPUS; Unity08</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As a person who is just a garden variety member of Unity08, I really do not know enough about the organization yet to say too much.  It does seem to me, though, that rj is correct about it taking someone of the stature of Ross Perot to run an independent and/or third party presidential campaign that will be taken seriously by the general public &#8211; and, I would add, the bourgeois news media.</p>
	<p>Member:  <span class="caps">CUIP</span>; GPUS; Unity08</p>
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		<title>by: Andy</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/04/unity-08-launches-new-website/#comment-74280</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 01:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;You act as if the establishment being behind Unity ‘08 is a bad thing. On the contrary, I think that is a very good thing.&quot;

I'd say that it's cause for concern.  If Unity '08 ends up with a McCain/Lieberman ticket or if Bloomberg gets their nomination I'd call that a bad thing,  a very bad thing in fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;You act as if the establishment being behind Unity &#8216;08 is a bad thing. On the contrary, I think that is a very good thing.&#8221;</p>
	<p>I&#8217;d say that it&#8217;s cause for concern.  If Unity &#8216;08 ends up with a McCain/Lieberman ticket or if Bloomberg gets their nomination I&#8217;d call that a bad thing,  a very bad thing in fact.</p>
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		<title>by: Andy</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/04/unity-08-launches-new-website/#comment-74278</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 01:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Do you think anything not establishment connected will ever win anything?&quot;

If it doesn't happen we are all screwed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Do you think anything not establishment connected will ever win anything?&#8221;</p>
	<p>If it doesn&#8217;t happen we are all screwed.</p>
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		<title>by: rj</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/04/unity-08-launches-new-website/#comment-74056</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 17:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Do you think anything not establishment connected will ever win anything? 

At the end of the day, big money has to support you (unless you're Ross Perot and can self-finance) and a majority of people vote based on what the establishment tell them. The only time in this country a longshot wins is Hollywood sports movies.

Is it any coincidence the best-ever result for the Libertarian Party was with a very establishment connected billionaire as the VP candidate?

You act as if the establishment being behind Unity '08 is a bad thing. On the contrary, I think that is a very good thing. Why? Cause it means the establishment are starting to believe the Republican and Democratic parties cannot get it done anymore, which is in line with what myself and most people on this site believe too and can only enhance third parties once Republicans and Democrats can no longer use the &quot;wasted vote&quot; hypothesis and gerrymanders that no longer apply to new political boundaries to guarantee their re-election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Do you think anything not establishment connected will ever win anything?</p>
	<p>At the end of the day, big money has to support you (unless you&#8217;re Ross Perot and can self-finance) and a majority of people vote based on what the establishment tell them. The only time in this country a longshot wins is Hollywood sports movies.</p>
	<p>Is it any coincidence the best-ever result for the Libertarian Party was with a very establishment connected billionaire as the VP candidate?</p>
	<p>You act as if the establishment being behind Unity &#8216;08 is a bad thing. On the contrary, I think that is a very good thing. Why? Cause it means the establishment are starting to believe the Republican and Democratic parties cannot get it done anymore, which is in line with what myself and most people on this site believe too and can only enhance third parties once Republicans and Democrats can no longer use the &#8220;wasted vote&#8221; hypothesis and gerrymanders that no longer apply to new political boundaries to guarantee their re-election.</p>
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		<title>by: Andy</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/04/unity-08-launches-new-website/#comment-74052</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 17:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;With all due respect, why does this “Unity ‘08 thing” owe you or any third party anything? Do you seriously think the Republican or Democratic Parties got together and decided “lets run a joint centrist ticket because the Libertarians and Greens might defeat us come November 2008”. Russ Feingold and Tom Tancredo cooperating to hold the Libertarians down. Please.&quot;

I did not intend to imply that Unity '08 owed myself or any &quot;third party&quot; anything.  I was merely speculating that Unity '08 could be establishment connected controlled opposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;With all due respect, why does this &#8220;Unity &#8216;08 thing&#8221; owe you or any third party anything? Do you seriously think the Republican or Democratic Parties got together and decided &#8220;lets run a joint centrist ticket because the Libertarians and Greens might defeat us come November 2008&#8221;. Russ Feingold and Tom Tancredo cooperating to hold the Libertarians down. Please.&#8221;</p>
	<p>I did not intend to imply that Unity &#8216;08 owed myself or any &#8220;third party&#8221; anything.  I was merely speculating that Unity &#8216;08 could be establishment connected controlled opposition.</p>
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		<title>by: rj</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/04/unity-08-launches-new-website/#comment-74008</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 13:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;I totally agree that this Unity ‘08 thing sounds like a sham. It is probably controlled oppostion that will be used to overshadow any REAL “third party” candidates. I wouldn’t be suprised if they come up with a nightmare ticket as in something like McCain/Lieberman.&quot;

With all due respect, why does this &quot;Unity '08 thing&quot; owe you or any third party anything? Do you seriously think the Republican or Democratic Parties got together and decided &quot;lets run a joint centrist ticket because the Libertarians and Greens might defeat us come November 2008&quot;. Russ Feingold and Tom Tancredo cooperating to hold the Libertarians down. Please.

There is a growing discord in this country toward the two parties, and it's well deserved. This effort, if serious, will be an avenue for someone who can capitalize on that discord. That is what politics is! Why do you think Perot was a sham for third parties? Cause he didn't belong to your party? Lets look at the results from the 1992 election:

Ross Perot 19743821 - 18.91%
Andre Marrou 290087 - 0.28%
Other 375659 - 0.36%

I imagine that there is someone out in the internet that thinks Ross Perot should not have run cause Andre Marrou could've increased his vote total to 19.19%. Idiot.

If you think this is a sham. Fine, get more votes than them in the election! If you do, it is a sham!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;I totally agree that this Unity &#8216;08 thing sounds like a sham. It is probably controlled oppostion that will be used to overshadow any <span class="caps">REAL </span>&#8220;third party&#8221; candidates. I wouldn&#8217;t be suprised if they come up with a nightmare ticket as in something like McCain/Lieberman.&#8221;</p>
	<p>With all due respect, why does this &#8220;Unity &#8216;08 thing&#8221; owe you or any third party anything? Do you seriously think the Republican or Democratic Parties got together and decided &#8220;lets run a joint centrist ticket because the Libertarians and Greens might defeat us come November 2008&#8221;. Russ Feingold and Tom Tancredo cooperating to hold the Libertarians down. Please.</p>
	<p>There is a growing discord in this country toward the two parties, and it&#8217;s well deserved. This effort, if serious, will be an avenue for someone who can capitalize on that discord. That is what politics is! Why do you think Perot was a sham for third parties? Cause he didn&#8217;t belong to your party? Lets look at the results from the 1992 election:</p>
	<p>Ross Perot 19743821 &#8211; 18.91%<br />
Andre Marrou 290087 &#8211; 0.28%<br />
Other 375659 &#8211; 0.36%</p>
	<p>I imagine that there is someone out in the internet that thinks Ross Perot should not have run cause Andre Marrou could&#8217;ve increased his vote total to 19.19%. Idiot.</p>
	<p>If you think this is a sham. Fine, get more votes than them in the election! If you do, it is a sham!</p>
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		<title>by: paulie cannoli</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/04/unity-08-launches-new-website/#comment-73854</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 02:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;I totally agree that this Unity ‘08 thing sounds like a sham. It is probably controlled oppostion that will be used to overshadow any REAL “third party” candidates. I wouldn’t be suprised if they come up with a nightmare ticket as in something like McCain/Lieberman.&lt;/i&gt;

McCain seems likely to be the Rapepublicneocon (NSGOP) nominee. I don't remember Eric calling him a libertarian yet, but it's probably just a matter of time. 

He did call Lieberman libertarian-leaning. Amused and skeptical readers, I  shit you not. Maybe Lieberman can be the Unity88 candidate. 

Let's face facts: only the Root-Sasquatch national ticket can save us from brain-eating parasites, earthquakes, floods, and certain doom!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I totally agree that this Unity &#8216;08 thing sounds like a sham. It is probably controlled oppostion that will be used to overshadow any <span class="caps">REAL </span>&#8220;third party&#8221; candidates. I wouldn&#8217;t be suprised if they come up with a nightmare ticket as in something like McCain/Lieberman.</i></p>
	<p>McCain seems likely to be the Rapepublicneocon (NSGOP) nominee. I don&#8217;t remember Eric calling him a libertarian yet, but it&#8217;s probably just a matter of time.</p>
	<p>He did call Lieberman libertarian-leaning. Amused and skeptical readers, I  shit you not. Maybe Lieberman can be the Unity88 candidate.</p>
	<p>Let&#8217;s face facts: only the Root-Sasquatch national ticket can save us from brain-eating parasites, earthquakes, floods, and certain doom!</p>
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		<title>by: Andy</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/04/unity-08-launches-new-website/#comment-73845</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 02:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;The CFR, Fed, etc/whatever is behind it. My twisted conspiracy theorist mind considers this new high-buck website prima-facie evidence towards such an idea. Just like I knew all along. Don’t you smell the rats too? It couldn’t be anymore obvious that this is the same pattern that “they” always follow: it is an effort to coopt the opposition and waste their time, money and efforts on something that is inimical to their true desires while misleading and further misinforming Joe Public as to what the REAL root of the problems he sees is.

This is the only “alternative” third party movement that will not be blacked out. Barring Ross Perot, and that Anti-Corvair guy.

Thank you for your support.&quot;

I totally agree that this Unity '08 thing sounds like a sham.  It is probably controlled oppostion that will be used to overshadow any REAL &quot;third party&quot; candidates.  I wouldn't be suprised if they come up with a nightmare ticket as in something like McCain/Lieberman.  

In part of G. Edward Griffin's excellent book &quot;The Creature From Jekyll Island:  A Second Look At The Federal Reserve&quot; (available at www.realityzone.com) he wrote about how Woodrow Wilson got elected President.  The big bankers funded both the Republican Taft as well as the Democrat Wilson.  The bankers (through their agents) got Teddy Roosevelt to run as the Bull Moose Party candidate and they funded him as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;The <span class="caps">CFR</span>, Fed, etc/whatever is behind it. My twisted conspiracy theorist mind considers this new high-buck website prima-facie evidence towards such an idea. Just like I knew all along. Don&#8217;t you smell the rats too? It couldn&#8217;t be anymore obvious that this is the same pattern that &#8220;they&#8221; always follow: it is an effort to coopt the opposition and waste their time, money and efforts on something that is inimical to their true desires while misleading and further misinforming Joe Public as to what the <span class="caps">REAL</span> root of the problems he sees is.</p>
	<p>This is the only &#8220;alternative&#8221; third party movement that will not be blacked out. Barring Ross Perot, and that Anti-Corvair guy.</p>
	<p>Thank you for your support.&#8221;</p>
	<p>I totally agree that this Unity &#8216;08 thing sounds like a sham.  It is probably controlled oppostion that will be used to overshadow any <span class="caps">REAL </span>&#8220;third party&#8221; candidates.  I wouldn&#8217;t be suprised if they come up with a nightmare ticket as in something like McCain/Lieberman.</p>
	<p>In part of G. Edward Griffin&#8217;s excellent book &#8220;The Creature From Jekyll Island:  A Second Look At The Federal Reserve&#8221; (available at <a href='http://www.realityzone.com' rel='nofollow'>www.realityzone.com</a>) he wrote about how Woodrow Wilson got elected President.  The big bankers funded both the Republican Taft as well as the Democrat Wilson.  The bankers (through their agents) got Teddy Roosevelt to run as the Bull Moose Party candidate and they funded him as well.</p>
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		<title>by: paulie cannoli</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/04/unity-08-launches-new-website/#comment-73844</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 02:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;The CFR, Fed, etc/whatever is behind it.&lt;/i&gt;

Root-Sasquatch is the only ticket which is not under the control of the reptilian  CFR masters. Vote Root-Sasquatch to liberate planet Earth from alien domination!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>The <span class="caps">CFR</span>, Fed, etc/whatever is behind it.</i></p>
	<p>Root-Sasquatch is the only ticket which is not under the control of the reptilian  <span class="caps">CFR</span> masters. Vote Root-Sasquatch to liberate planet Earth from alien domination!</p>
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