Comments on: Badnarik Begs for Another $200k… http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/ Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:08:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: Midas Oracle .ORG » Blog Archive » Libertarian baiting http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-197858 Thu, 31 May 2007 22:01:11 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-197858 [...] The case of Michael Badnarik’s “campaign” for U.S. Congress ending last month is a hilarious case in point. He raised over $400,000, claimed he could win, and got … 4 percent of the vote. He’s now begging for another $200k and it turns out his “campaign” “manager” is starting his own Scientology-like religion. [...] [...] The case of Michael Badnarik’s “campaign” for U.S. Congress ending last month is a hilarious case in point. He raised over $400,000, claimed he could win, and got … 4 percent of the vote. He’s now begging for another $200k and it turns out his “campaign” “manager” is starting his own Scientology-like religion. [...]

]]> by: Jason http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76398 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:46:56 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76398 The fact that Ankrum nailed down 40% of the vote in a district that leans very hard to the right (I used to live in Katy, most of which is now in TX-10 so I know this from experience) is VERY telling in contrast to the numbers posted for Badnarik. Looking at those numbers I'd really focus on the disparity between Ankrum and Badnarik. While it's true Ankrum carried the banner for the Dems and that obviously beats being a third party candidate, he also didn't run with any real backing from the national Democratic Party. As a result, Ted Ankrum still put Badnarik to shame in this election, far more so than McCaul did. The fact that Ankrum nailed down 40% of the vote in a district that leans very hard to the right (I used to live in Katy, most of which is now in TX-10 so I know this from experience) is VERY telling in contrast to the numbers posted for Badnarik. Looking at those numbers I’d really focus on the disparity between Ankrum and Badnarik. While it’s true Ankrum carried the banner for the Dems and that obviously beats being a third party candidate, he also didn’t run with any real backing from the national Democratic Party. As a result, Ted Ankrum still put Badnarik to shame in this election, far more so than McCaul did.

]]> by: Mike N. http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76387 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:14:17 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76387 Sources: http://www.opensecrets.org/ http://elections.sos.state.tx.us/elchist.exe Sources:

http://www.opensecrets.org/

http://elections.sos.state.tx.us/elchist.exe

]]> by: Mike N. http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76383 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:12:49 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76383 (oops, this may be easier to read) <b>2004 TX CD-10 Results:</b> Michael T. McCaul REP 182,113 votes 78.61% $2,927,850 spent Robert Fritsche LIB 35,569 15.35% $0 spent Lorenzo Sadun <b>W-I</b> 13,961 6.02% N/A spent <b>2006 TX CD-10 Results:</b> Michael T. McCaul(I) REP 97,726 55.28% $1,146,043 spent Ted Ankrum DEM 71,415 40.40% $72,061 spent Michael Badnarik LIB 7,614 4.30% $411,146 spent (oops, this may be easier to read)

2004 TX CD-10 Results:

Michael T. McCaul
REP
182,113 votes
78.61%
$2,927,850 spent

Robert Fritsche
LIB
35,569
15.35%
$0 spent

Lorenzo Sadun
W-I
13,961
6.02%
N/A spent

2006 TX CD-10 Results:

Michael T. McCaul(I)
REP
97,726
55.28%
$1,146,043 spent

Ted Ankrum
DEM
71,415
40.40%
$72,061 spent

Michael Badnarik
LIB
7,614
4.30%
$411,146 spent

]]> by: Mike N. http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76381 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:09:40 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76381 <b>2004 TX CD-10 Results:</b> Michael T. McCaul REP 182,113 78.61% $2,927,850 spent Robert Fritsche LIB 35,569 15.35% $0 spent Lorenzo Sadun <b>W-I</b> 13,961 6.02% N/A spent <b>2006 TX CD-10 Results:</b> Michael T. McCaul(I) REP 97,726 55.28% $1,146,043 spent Ted Ankrum DEM 71,415 40.40% $72,061 spent Michael Badnarik LIB 7,614 4.30% $411,146 spent 2004 TX CD-10 Results:

Michael T. McCaul
REP182,11378.61%
$2,927,850 spent

Robert Fritsche
LIB35,56915.35%
$0 spent

Lorenzo Sadun
W-I13,9616.02%
N/A spent

2006 TX CD-10 Results:

Michael T. McCaul(I)
REP97,72655.28%
$1,146,043 spent

Ted Ankrum
DEM71,41540.40%
$72,061 spent

Michael Badnarik
LIB7,6144.30%
$411,146 spent

]]> by: Tom Bryant http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76379 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:01:52 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76379 My questions have been answered as well. Funny &#38; sad. Lesson to take away from this - the LP needs real campaign managers. My questions have been answered as well. Funny & sad.

Lesson to take away from this – the LP needs real campaign managers.

]]> by: Mike N. http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76371 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:38:55 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76371 Nevermind, found it: * Keith Ellison (DFL), 56% * Alan Fine (R), 21% * Tammy Lee (I), 21% * Jay Pond (G), 2% Not bad. Nevermind, found it:

* Keith Ellison (DFL), 56%
* Alan Fine®, 21%
* Tammy Lee (I), 21%
* Jay Pond (G), 2%

Not bad.

]]> by: Mike N. http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76370 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:35:30 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76370 Jason, Was Lee in a 2 or 3-way race? Jason,

Was Lee in a 2 or 3-way race?

]]> by: Jason http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76358 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:21:58 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76358 Just some numbers for you to compare the Badnarik campaign with that of Minnesota's Tammy Lee: Funds Raised: Badnarik around $400K, Lee $205K. TV Presence: Badnarik none, Lee several major cable ad buys in the Twin Cities market. Debt at end of campaign: Badnarik $200K, Lee $10K (and that is a loan she made to her own campaign). Vote Totals: Badnarik 4% in a district that leans hard to the right, Lee 21% in a district that leans hard to the LEFT. One campaign ran money into the ground while the other was probably the best third party Congressional campaign run in the country. Can you guess which is which? Just some numbers for you to compare the Badnarik campaign with that of Minnesota’s Tammy Lee:

Funds Raised: Badnarik around $400K, Lee $205K.
TV Presence: Badnarik none, Lee several major cable ad buys in the Twin Cities market.
Debt at end of campaign: Badnarik $200K, Lee $10K (and that is a loan she made to her own campaign).
Vote Totals: Badnarik 4% in a district that leans hard to the right, Lee 21% in a district that leans hard to the LEFT.

One campaign ran money into the ground while the other was probably the best third party Congressional campaign run in the country. Can you guess which is which?

]]> by: Carl http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76351 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:15:13 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76351 Interesting stuff, these last posts. As I recall, Michael Badnarik is into TM, so there is some compatibility. Many self-improvement systems are actually induced mental illness. It is not healthy to always be confident or be positive. It is not good to transcend all negativity or get past all the doubters. Success in these disciplines is equivalent to the mental illnesses described above, albeit more readily reversable. This is not the only instance of a connection between the LP and New Ageism. Mary Ruwart's "Healing Our World" is written the style of a New Age book and has endorsements by a collection of New Age Gurus. Michael Cloud is a lesser Tony Robbins, repackaging Neuro Linguistic Programming techniques under his name. And then there is Robert Anton Wilson... Yes, there are bits of wisdom buried in the New Age corpus -- sandwiched in between loads of meaningless verbiage, repackaged same old, spurious trademarks, incredibles overstatements, and outright nonsense. One should make sure one's BS detector is fully charged before delving into such literature. Interesting stuff, these last posts. As I recall, Michael Badnarik is into TM, so there is some compatibility.

Many self-improvement systems are actually induced mental illness. It is not healthy to always be confident or be positive. It is not good to transcend all negativity or get past all the doubters. Success in these disciplines is equivalent to the mental illnesses described above, albeit more readily reversable.

This is not the only instance of a connection between the LP and New Ageism. Mary Ruwart’s “Healing Our World” is written the style of a New Age book and has endorsements by a collection of New Age Gurus. Michael Cloud is a lesser Tony Robbins, repackaging Neuro Linguistic Programming techniques under his name. And then there is Robert Anton Wilson…

Yes, there are bits of wisdom buried in the New Age corpus—sandwiched in between loads of meaningless verbiage, repackaged same old, spurious trademarks, incredibles overstatements, and outright nonsense. One should make sure one’s BS detector is fully charged before delving into such literature.

]]> by: matt http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76319 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:04:15 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76319 This is funny like a slippery transplant kidney squirting out of the surgeon's hands and on to the operating room floor. So yes, it is a little funny, but mostly, it's just sad. This is funny like a slippery transplant kidney squirting out of the surgeon’s hands and on to the operating room floor. So yes, it is a little funny, but mostly, it’s just sad.

]]> by: Nick Wilson http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76269 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:33:12 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76269 Hacker, you don't have to say another word. Everything is explained now. Seriously - all my questions have been answered. Mike N., I think I can go so far as to say we're all retroactively saddened that you didn't discover this sooner. You didn't even need to say anything about sabotage - these quirky little nuggets of joy out of Hacker's own mouth in a very public setting would have worked quite nicely on their own. I REALLY feel sorry for everyone who gave anything to this campaign. And Tom K.'s quite right. This would have crushed what little reputation the LP has had the campaign actually been more successful. Oh man. I can't get over how funny this is. Hacker, you don’t have to say another word. Everything is explained now. Seriously – all my questions have been answered.

Mike N., I think I can go so far as to say we’re all retroactively saddened that you didn’t discover this sooner. You didn’t even need to say anything about sabotage – these quirky little nuggets of joy out of Hacker’s own mouth in a very public setting would have worked quite nicely on their own. I REALLY feel sorry for everyone who gave anything to this campaign. And Tom K.’s quite right. This would have crushed what little reputation the LP has had the campaign actually been more successful.

Oh man. I can’t get over how funny this is.

]]> by: Mike N. http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76225 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:02:03 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76225 (continuing Matt's list) Don't spend all day on blogs if you don't have a clue how to interact with the public. (tends to scare away supporters/donors) What the hell does "Smile if you (heart) Liberty" mean? Who am I supposed to vote for? A bunch of nuts on your staff wearing V for Vendetta masks will not win you votes - for god's sake don't video tape it and put it on your campaign website. Did somebody mention buy TV spots? Support your supporters (yard signs for example). If you are going to tout a top secret plan, then by all means make this "plan" at least somewhat intelligent. Blowing 31% of your donations on salary is not a good way to attract more donations. FEC reports are public. --------- I will take my $200,000 now. I accept all major credit cards. (continuing Matt’s list)

Don’t spend all day on blogs if you don’t have a clue how to interact with the public. (tends to scare away supporters/donors)

What the hell does “Smile if you (heart) Liberty” mean? Who am I supposed to vote for?

A bunch of nuts on your staff wearing V for Vendetta masks will not win you votes – for god’s sake don’t video tape it and put it on your campaign website.

Did somebody mention buy TV spots?

Support your supporters (yard signs for example).

If you are going to tout a top secret plan, then by all means make this “plan” at least somewhat intelligent.

Blowing 31% of your donations on salary is not a good way to attract more donations. FEC reports are public.
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I will take my $200,000 now. I accept all major credit cards.

]]> by: matt http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76213 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 05:54:29 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76213 I'm not saying that Allen is crazy, but I am saying that there's nothing funny about mental illness. Let's just start trying to draw lessons from this. I can think of a few: Google before you hire. Demand accountability and a gameplan before donating. Avoid Scientologists and other charlatans. Don't slavishly imitate the major-party expense account habits. Buy media spots. Don't threaten to sue. Get a better slogan than "Freedom, Prosperity, Security" I’m not saying that Allen is crazy, but I am saying that there’s nothing funny about mental illness. Let’s just start trying to draw lessons from this. I can think of a few:

Google before you hire.

Demand accountability and a gameplan before donating.

Avoid Scientologists and other charlatans.

Don’t slavishly imitate the major-party expense account habits.

Buy media spots.

Don’t threaten to sue.

Get a better slogan than “Freedom, Prosperity, Security”

]]> by: Nick Wilson http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76193 Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:51:36 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/06/badnarik-begs-for-another-200k/#comment-76193 Hahaha. No way!!! I was only kidding about the cult thing! I don't even believe it... hahaha...that is HILARIOUS! It's not about your hard-earned hundred bucks, it’s about the world getting the desperately missing Scientology healing whose absence has been stifling it all these years. Ultimately, it’s about the future of the Eleemosynary Trust in undetectable sub-fabric of the universe for the next ten thousand years. Go right now to dubya dubya dubya dot aescir dot net/gov/index dot html and click that Donate button as quickly as you can or else Xenu and his Galactic Confederacy will smite you down, as they did with the human race when they brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and blew them up with hydrogen bombs. Now we know why the apparent schizophrenia goes untreated, at least. Because psychiatrists are behind a worldwide conspiracy to attack Scientology and create a "world government" run by psychiatrists on behalf of Soviet Russia. Hahaha. No way I was only kidding about the cult thing! I don’t even believe it… hahaha…that is HILARIOUS!

It’s not about your hard-earned hundred bucks, it’s about the world getting the desperately missing Scientology healing whose absence has been stifling it all these years. Ultimately, it’s about the future of the Eleemosynary Trust in undetectable sub-fabric of the universe for the next ten thousand years. Go right now to dubya dubya dubya dot aescir dot net/gov/index dot html and click that Donate button as quickly as you can or else Xenu and his Galactic Confederacy will smite you down, as they did with the human race when they brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and blew them up with hydrogen bombs.

Now we know why the apparent schizophrenia goes untreated, at least. Because psychiatrists are behind a worldwide conspiracy to attack Scientology and create a “world government” run by psychiatrists on behalf of Soviet Russia.

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