He has never even been elected dog catcher.

Over 80 Libertarian Party members serve in public office in the State of California, both appointed and elected. Kubby ain’t one of them.

Any one of those 80 LPers would be more qualified to run than Kubby. Hell, I’d even take one of the Planning Board Commission members, or one of the County Soil Tester or Cemetary Board members over someone like Kubby who thinks he can all of a sudden run for the highest office in the land, and not have to work his way up for it.

It’s an absolute insult to the American voter, and a slap in the face to all the Libertarian Party members nationwide who do hold public office, and worked their asses off to get there.

Kubby (and Phillies) should be ashamed.

You’ll also see Kubby doing so—we’ve created 50 state Internet discussion lists, appointed (I think) seven state coordinators so far, etc.

Where is all this? I haven’t seen it on Kubby.com.

Let me know what I can do to help put all this together. I’m sure you could use some help in all this?

Most of the articles I’m seeing on the “spoiler” phenomenon make it clear that they’re either a) assuming or b) basing on polling data an overt assumption as to where third party votes would have “gone” if the candidate they were cast for had not been on the ballot.

There is indeed a bloc of voters who will simply not vote for a D or R, even if there’s not a Libertarian candidate to vote for. There are also blocs of voters who will. It would be interesting to see more, and more detailed, information on how that breaks out in any particular case.

As for myself, I was glad to be able to vote for Frank Gilmour, but if he hadn’t been on the ballot, this was a case where I would have voted anyway (against Jim Talent).

The “spoiler” phenomenon should be promoted, not hidden or denied. If we can learn how to consistently and provably cost the other parties elections, that gives them an incentive to try to earn the votes that are going to us, by campaigning on, and implementing, libertarian public policy. I’d rather win elections outright, but I’ll take what I can get.

Regards,
Tom Knapp

With articles like that continuing to pop up we will remain on the back burner as an election spoiler instead of an election threat. Maybe some news media organization should ask these third party voters whom they would’ve voted for if there wasn’t a third party candidate. Personally if it wasn’t for the any one but republican and democrat movement I wouldn’t be voting at all since it makes no difference whether you put in socialism right or socialism left.

As George Phillies mentions, he has indeed already campaigned outside of Massachusetts. I expect we’ll see both Kubby and Phillies at various LP state conventions in 2007 and 2008.

Also, both Kubby and Phillies are trying to keep internal LP events from being their campaigns’ sole focal point. Phillies has been “beta-testing” commercials over the Internet, with a view toward airing them in general media markets on television. Kubby went to Colorado to campaign for a ballot issue.

I’ve laid out my own reasons for supporting Kubby in preference to Phillies, but lack of real campaign skills or effort on Phillies’ part isn’t one of them. We are overtaking Phillies in terms of campaign depth (as opposed to initial preference of prospective delegates, where I believe we started out ahead anyway), but that’s because we’re working at it, not because he’s a slouch.

I expect you’ll see George’s campaign starting to roll out its state-based volunteer operations in the next few days. You’ll also see Kubby doing so—we’ve created 50 state Internet discussion lists, appointed (I think) seven state coordinators so far, etc. The fact that George is at that point shows he’s been working. The fact that Kubby is at that point at the same time, even though he declared several months after George, means to me that we’re moving faster … and that we don’t have time for a break.

Regards,
Tom Knapp

And what about that issue of the statement about “Europe now being free, so we don’t need any more immigrants” (paraphrased from your webpage) that Paulie keeps bringing up?

What’s the biggest crowd you’ve talked to? How much non-libertarian press coverage have you had?

Who was the Democrat you debated? Did you actually debate, or did you both just address the NH LP convention separately?

Do you have any plans to debate Kubby?

Which LP state conventions will you be attending?

For the text of my August speech to the Merrimac Valley Libertarians, see http://phillies2008.com/phillies_speech_to_merrimac_valley_porcupines .
(You can also hear me read the prepared draft of the speech.)

When will I start debating other Presidential candidates? I started several months ago. With a declared Democratic candidate.

For the video of my presentation to the New Hampshire Libertarian Party State Convention (the other presenter was the Democrat) see

http://phillies2008.com/phillies_speaks_at_lpnh_state_convention

I plucked it out for ya.

Also, adding a dash in front of and behind something creates the line through it. Like this.

If you want to use dashes, just use a space as well. – Like this. -

In Georgia we have elections in 2007 that we have to get ready for, and at our state convention this year we’ll be focusing on winning those elections… in 2008 we’ll worry about who’s going to run for President.

Sometime today, or maybe tomorrow, or sometime soon, I’m going to make a seperate post about the LP’s 2008 nod and you guys can go and feast on each other there.

And Eric… if you want a “winnertarian” to win the nomination… they actually have to run for it like George, Steve, Christine and the others… the person who gets nominated gets the nomination because they seek it… if those people you named as “winnertarians” don’t seek the nomination, than I can 100% guarantee you, they won’t win it.