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	<title>Comments on: Reports from the Constitution Party National Committee Meeting in Concord</title>
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		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-450990</link>
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		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-435771</link>
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		<title>by: RCAIP</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-78361</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Vince claims that abortion was the SOLE reason.

Vince is wrong!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Vince claims that abortion was the <span class="caps">SOLE</span> reason.</p>
	<p>Vince is wrong!</p>
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		<title>by: Joe</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-78160</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-78160</guid>
					<description>What do the words of Reed Heustis and Scott Whiteman have to do with Vincent Darrah's reason for leaving the Constitution Party?  Can't each individual speak for themselves and explain their own reason if they choose to bother?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>What do the words of Reed Heustis and Scott Whiteman have to do with Vincent Darrah&#8217;s reason for leaving the Constitution Party?  Can&#8217;t each individual speak for themselves and explain their own reason if they choose to bother?</p>
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		<title>by: RCAIP</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-78120</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-78120</guid>
					<description>&quot;This “states rights” gabage is just that! States Rights comes into practice in Government, not in political parties.&quot;

-Except for a political party that believes in the US Constitution, including the 10th Amendment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;This &#8220;states rights&#8221; gabage is just that! States Rights comes into practice in Government, not in political parties.&#8221;</p>
	<p>-Except for a political party that believes in the <span class="caps">US </span>Constitution, including the 10th Amendment.</p>
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		<title>by: RCAIP</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-78119</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-78119</guid>
					<description>=Except to make them change their stand on abortion, which already was pro-life but not pro-life enough for a radical minority.

This is not true.

=Yes it is, the target was the Mormons, not the 'no-exceptionists'.

&quot;None of us are happy with the situation as it presently exists, but the Exec Comm has adopted a policy that winks at dead babies -- as long as the dead babies are dead Mormon babies -- after all, the Mormon policy permitting the killing of unborn thieves-in-the-womb, bastard children (C. Hansen's words) or foetally deformed babies requires deliberation with the Priest and divine confirmation, and no Calvinist Demoniac, as Mr. Hansen calls us, is likely to be given such divine confirmation or audience with the Priest. After all, &quot;forcing&quot; a woman to carry such a child might cause her significant spiritual damage or ruin her soul, while aborting the baby puts that baby straight into heaven and might even save the girl (according to Scott Bartlett, SD Chairman and Regional Co-Chairman). You know, in New Hampshire it is illegal to sell fireworks to minors who reside in New Hampshire -- but NH can sell fireworks to minors from Massachusetts -- afterall, who really cares about Massachusetts kids, right?&quot;

-Scott Whittman

 The CP Platform says that they are 100% pro-life. Not that they are just pro-life, but 100%.

=The CP Sanctity of Life says that Government cannot take life WITHOUT JUSTIFICATION. In other words, while rape or incest doesn't count. Other circumstances do, like to save the life of the mother. So that is exceptionist right there. Not 100%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>=Except to make them change their stand on abortion, which already was pro-life but not pro-life enough for a radical minority.</p>
	<p>This is not true.</p>
	<p>=Yes it is, the target was the Mormons, not the &#8216;no-exceptionists&#8217;.</p>
	<p>&#8220;None of us are happy with the situation as it presently exists, but the Exec Comm has adopted a policy that winks at dead babies&#8212;as long as the dead babies are dead Mormon babies&#8212;after all, the Mormon policy permitting the killing of unborn thieves-in-the-womb, bastard children (C. Hansen&#8217;s words) or foetally deformed babies requires deliberation with the Priest and divine confirmation, and no Calvinist Demoniac, as Mr. Hansen calls us, is likely to be given such divine confirmation or audience with the Priest. After all, &#8220;forcing&#8221; a woman to carry such a child might cause her significant spiritual damage or ruin her soul, while aborting the baby puts that baby straight into heaven and might even save the girl (according to Scott Bartlett, <span class="caps">SD </span>Chairman and Regional Co-Chairman). You know, in New Hampshire it is illegal to sell fireworks to minors who reside in New Hampshire&#8212;but NH can sell fireworks to minors from Massachusetts&#8212;afterall, who really cares about Massachusetts kids, right?&#8221;</p>
	<p>-Scott Whittman</p>
	<p> The <span class="caps">CP </span>Platform says that they are 100% pro-life. Not that they are just pro-life, but 100%.</p>
	<p>=The <span class="caps">CP </span>Sanctity of Life says that Government cannot take life <span class="caps">WITHOUT JUSTIFICATION</span>. In other words, while rape or incest doesn&#8217;t count. Other circumstances do, like to save the life of the mother. So that is exceptionist right there. Not 100%</p>
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		<title>by: RCAIP</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-78114</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-78114</guid>
					<description>I left, and it had nothing to do with religion.

=What a load of crap- I've read the TAV forums. Here's a quote form your friend Reed Heustis-

&quot;...Fourteen years after its seeding, the Constitution Party began to bear its godless fruits. At its 2006 National Committee meeting last Spring in Tampa, Florida, the Constitution Party voted to continue its affiliation with a Nevada affiliate, owned and operated by Mormons, that regularly supports pro-abortion candidates and officers. As a consequence of its pro-abortion, anti-Christian actions, eight Constitution Party state affiliates have disaffiliated from the Pluralist national party, and more are likely to follow. Meanwhile, the entire western region of the Constitution Party has fallen into complete Mormon control. Some National Committee members justified their votes on the grounds of &quot;religious liberty.&quot; Others justified their votes on the grounds of &quot;party growth.&quot; Others on &quot;states' rights.&quot; Others on &quot;family loyalty.&quot; Still others on demonic Mormonism itself. Vain imaginations. High things...&quot;

=Gee, does it sound like the Abortion issue was the sole reason?

 I dont like hypocrisy. 

=You're speaking it, Vince.

And have you read the CP Constitution? I have a copy and NO where does it say that they cant or shouldnt disaffiliate a state party for not upholding the platform that they ALL agreed too.

=Neither does it say they can.

They had no problem disaffiliating the IL CP when it suited them and the reason was alot flimsier than the case against IAPNV.

=Because the old Ill. CP was full of anti-non-Calvinist bigots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I left, and it had nothing to do with religion.</p>
	<p>=What a load of crap- I&#8217;ve read the <span class="caps">TAV</span> forums. Here&#8217;s a quote form your friend Reed Heustis-</p>
	<p>&#8220;...Fourteen years after its seeding, the Constitution Party began to bear its godless fruits. At its 2006 National Committee meeting last Spring in Tampa, Florida, the Constitution Party voted to continue its affiliation with a Nevada affiliate, owned and operated by Mormons, that regularly supports pro-abortion candidates and officers. As a consequence of its pro-abortion, anti-Christian actions, eight Constitution Party state affiliates have disaffiliated from the Pluralist national party, and more are likely to follow. Meanwhile, the entire western region of the Constitution Party has fallen into complete Mormon control. Some National Committee members justified their votes on the grounds of &#8220;religious liberty.&#8221; Others justified their votes on the grounds of &#8220;party growth.&#8221; Others on &#8220;states&#8217; rights.&#8221; Others on &#8220;family loyalty.&#8221; Still others on demonic Mormonism itself. Vain imaginations. High things&#8230;&#8221;</p>
	<p>=Gee, does it sound like the Abortion issue was the sole reason?</p>
	<p> I dont like hypocrisy.</p>
	<p>=You&#8217;re speaking it, Vince.</p>
	<p>And have you read the <span class="caps">CP </span>Constitution? I have a copy and NO where does it say that they cant or shouldnt disaffiliate a state party for not upholding the platform that they <span class="caps">ALL</span> agreed too.</p>
	<p>=Neither does it say they can.</p>
	<p>They had no problem disaffiliating the <span class="caps">IL CP</span> when it suited them and the reason was alot flimsier than the case against <span class="caps">IAPNV</span>.</p>
	<p>=Because the old Ill. CP was full of anti-non-Calvinist bigots.</p>
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		<title>by: Paul</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-77674</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-77674</guid>
					<description>As a principal in the New York CP, I reflected considerably before voting on the issue of disaffiliation with the national party organization.
The National Party was hypocritical in not standing up to Nevada. And I blame the party leadership for that.
This &quot;states rights&quot; gabage is just that! States Rights comes into practice in Government, not in political parties. Political parties are advocates of principles, whether they be good or bad. When a platform is proposed and adopted, it should be held to. That has been the problem with major parties. If the major parties, such as the Republicans stuck to their principles, I would still be one of them. But, both Republicans, Conservatives, and others have waffled on their principles. That is why I joined and support the Constitution Party. If you propose to be 100% pro-life, then be it.  Do not become hypocrites like the others. It's that simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As a principal in the New York CP, I reflected considerably before voting on the issue of disaffiliation with the national party organization.<br />
The National Party was hypocritical in not standing up to Nevada. And I blame the party leadership for that.<br />
This &#8220;states rights&#8221; gabage is just that! States Rights comes into practice in Government, not in political parties. Political parties are advocates of principles, whether they be good or bad. When a platform is proposed and adopted, it should be held to. That has been the problem with major parties. If the major parties, such as the Republicans stuck to their principles, I would still be one of them. But, both Republicans, Conservatives, and others have waffled on their principles. That is why I joined and support the Constitution Party. If you propose to be 100% pro-life, then be it.  Do not become hypocrites like the others. It&#8217;s that simple.</p>
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		<title>by: Joe</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-77443</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 03:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-77443</guid>
					<description>Yes, we did wish for the National Party to disaffiliate Nevada.  Here is the resolution our state party passed on April 10 of this year:

Whereas the National Committee of the Constitution Party has been
troubled for more than a year and a half by events arising from a
decision by the chairman of the Independent American Party of Nevada
(IAPN) to publicly air views in clear opposition to the pro-life
plank of the National Party, and 

Whereas the IAPN chairman has refused to publicly recant his
statements, but has affirmed his position, and 

Whereas the National Committee by majority vote at its meeting in
Columbus, Ohio, in the fall of 2005 has requested the Independent
American Party of Nevada to address the situation, and 

Whereas the Independent American Party of Nevada has responded by
stating in writing to the national Constitution Party chairman the
IAPN support for its state chairman, thus elevating the issue to the
level of a scandal that threatens the pro-life position and message
of the Constitution Party, and 

Whereas leaders in the national Constitution Party have failed to
address the scandal but have instead publicly attacked and unfairly
maligned individuals seeking to promote the party's pro-life
identity, and 

Whereas several state affiliates, including Michigan, Ohio, Montana,
Alabama, Oregon and New York have formally called for disaffiliation
of the IAPN in accordance with the powers granted to the National
Committee by its bylaws, and

Whereas a disaffiliation motion brought to the floor of the National
Committee in Columbus, Ohio, in 2005 was ruled out of order by the
National Chairman; 

Be it hereby resolved that the Constitution Party of New York shall
formally cease its affiliation with the national Constitution Party
if the Independent American Party of Nevada is not disaffiliated
from the national Constitution Party as of April 23, 2006.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yes, we did wish for the National Party to disaffiliate Nevada.  Here is the resolution our state party passed on April 10 of this year:</p>
	<p>Whereas the National Committee of the Constitution Party has been<br />
troubled for more than a year and a half by events arising from a<br />
decision by the chairman of the Independent American Party of Nevada<br />
(IAPN) to publicly air views in clear opposition to the pro-life<br />
plank of the National Party, and</p>
	<p>Whereas the <span class="caps">IAPN</span> chairman has refused to publicly recant his<br />
statements, but has affirmed his position, and</p>
	<p>Whereas the National Committee by majority vote at its meeting in<br />
Columbus, Ohio, in the fall of 2005 has requested the Independent<br />
American Party of Nevada to address the situation, and</p>
	<p>Whereas the Independent American Party of Nevada has responded by<br />
stating in writing to the national Constitution Party chairman the<br />
<span class="caps">IAPN</span> support for its state chairman, thus elevating the issue to the<br />
level of a scandal that threatens the pro-life position and message<br />
of the Constitution Party, and</p>
	<p>Whereas leaders in the national Constitution Party have failed to<br />
address the scandal but have instead publicly attacked and unfairly<br />
maligned individuals seeking to promote the party&#8217;s pro-life<br />
identity, and</p>
	<p>Whereas several state affiliates, including Michigan, Ohio, Montana,<br />
Alabama, Oregon and New York have formally called for disaffiliation<br />
of the <span class="caps">IAPN</span> in accordance with the powers granted to the National<br />
Committee by its bylaws, and</p>
	<p>Whereas a disaffiliation motion brought to the floor of the National<br />
Committee in Columbus, Ohio, in 2005 was ruled out of order by the<br />
National Chairman;</p>
	<p>Be it hereby resolved that the Constitution Party of New York shall<br />
formally cease its affiliation with the national Constitution Party<br />
if the Independent American Party of Nevada is not disaffiliated<br />
from the national Constitution Party as of April 23, 2006.</p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-77436</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 02:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-77436</guid>
					<description>So you wished for the National Party to dissafiliate Nevada,rather than rehabilitate?
You wished to alienate the second largest state party, rather than convince them o the merits of your position, or otherwise combat the (percieved bad) ideologies of that leadership?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So you wished for the National Party to dissafiliate Nevada,rather than rehabilitate?<br />
You wished to alienate the second largest state party, rather than convince them o the merits of your position, or otherwise combat the (percieved bad) ideologies of that leadership?</p>
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		<title>by: Joe</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-77416</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 02:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-77416</guid>
					<description>Trent,

I am a member of the New York party and was present when our disaffiliation resolution was discussed.  Nowhere in it does it say anything about us wishing to create a church, nor did anyone during our discussion say anything of the kind.  I voted to disaffiliate because I could not in good conscience remain in a party that voted to allow a state party remain that knowingly elected leaders and nominated candidates that would allow abortion in the cases of rape and incest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Trent,</p>
	<p>I am a member of the New York party and was present when our disaffiliation resolution was discussed.  Nowhere in it does it say anything about us wishing to create a church, nor did anyone during our discussion say anything of the kind.  I voted to disaffiliate because I could not in good conscience remain in a party that voted to allow a state party remain that knowingly elected leaders and nominated candidates that would allow abortion in the cases of rape and incest.</p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-77399</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 00:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-77399</guid>
					<description>It doesnt say they CANT or SHOULDNT. What it says is that they are an orginization who respects States' Rights. Besides, what would they have gained by ousting Nevada? Its much easier to influence that leadership by keeping them in the party,rather than exiling them,and severely weakening your party. Why not keep the power, improve the situation, and have NO one leave?
The only reason Missouri, Montana, Arkansas, New York, and Oregon left is because they werent looking to create a political party, they were looing to create a church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It doesnt say they <span class="caps">CANT</span> or <span class="caps">SHOULDNT</span>. What it says is that they are an orginization who respects States&#8217; Rights. Besides, what would they have gained by ousting Nevada? Its much easier to influence that leadership by keeping them in the party,rather than exiling them,and severely weakening your party. Why not keep the power, improve the situation, and have NO one leave?<br />
The only reason Missouri, Montana, Arkansas, New York, and Oregon left is because they werent looking to create a political party, they were looing to create a church.</p>
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		<title>by: Vincent Darrah</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-77123</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2006/12/11/reports-from-the-constitution-party-national-committee-meeting-in-concord/#comment-77123</guid>
					<description>I left, and it had nothing to do with religion. I dont like hypocrisy. And have you read the CP Constitution? I have a copy and NO where does it say that they cant or shouldnt disaffiliate a state party for not upholding the platform that they ALL agreed too.

They had no problem disaffiliating the IL CP when it suited them and the reason was alot flimsier than the case against IAPNV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I left, and it had nothing to do with religion. I dont like hypocrisy. And have you read the <span class="caps">CP </span>Constitution? I have a copy and NO where does it say that they cant or shouldnt disaffiliate a state party for not upholding the platform that they <span class="caps">ALL</span> agreed too.</p>
	<p>They had no problem disaffiliating the <span class="caps">IL CP</span> when it suited them and the reason was alot flimsier than the case against <span class="caps">IAPNV</span>.</p>
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