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	<title>Comments on: Constitution Party of Illinois Chairman discusses possible presidential candidates</title>
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		<title>by: dognightmeal</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-715247</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Cody Quirk</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-107392</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 14:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-107392</guid>
					<description>I doubt Corsi will be the Constitution Party’s nominee unless he changes his position on Iraq in particular and foreign policy in general. The party has consistently maintained that the use of force in Iraq is unconstitutional.

=We'll find out whose running next year.

It is one thing to nominate a different candidate, it is another thing entirely to claim that the party’s last presidential nominee is “distorted.” I had an idea what Peroutka was really like. He made it clear that he was opposed to abortion in the cases of rape and incest, and when it came to voting to disaffilate a state party that knowingly elected candidates and leaders that would allow abortion in the cases of rape and incest, he voted his principles. I had no idea what Howard Phillips and Jim Clymer were really like.

=Yet I had no idea how zealous he was, or even his anti-Mormon views, which didn't come out of the closet until the Nevada issue.

Randy Stufflebeam did not include Corsi on his list of preferred candidates, but he did include Michael Peroutka.

=Yet he didn't mention his name first. 
And Randy doesn't decide whose our candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I doubt Corsi will be the Constitution Party&#8217;s nominee unless he changes his position on Iraq in particular and foreign policy in general. The party has consistently maintained that the use of force in Iraq is unconstitutional.</p>
	<p>=We&#8217;ll find out whose running next year.</p>
	<p>It is one thing to nominate a different candidate, it is another thing entirely to claim that the party&#8217;s last presidential nominee is &#8220;distorted.&#8221; I had an idea what Peroutka was really like. He made it clear that he was opposed to abortion in the cases of rape and incest, and when it came to voting to disaffilate a state party that knowingly elected candidates and leaders that would allow abortion in the cases of rape and incest, he voted his principles. I had no idea what Howard Phillips and Jim Clymer were really like.</p>
	<p>=Yet I had no idea how zealous he was, or even his anti-Mormon views, which didn&#8217;t come out of the closet until the Nevada issue.</p>
	<p>Randy Stufflebeam did not include Corsi on his list of preferred candidates, but he did include Michael Peroutka.</p>
	<p>=Yet he didn&#8217;t mention his name first.<br />
And Randy doesn&#8217;t decide whose our candidate.</p>
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		<title>by: Joe</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-107355</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-107355</guid>
					<description>I doubt Corsi will be the Constitution Party's nominee unless he changes his position on Iraq in particular and foreign policy in general.  The party has consistently maintained that the use of force in Iraq is unconstitutional.  

It is one thing to nominate a different candidate, it is another thing entirely to claim that the party's last presidential nominee is &quot;distorted.&quot;  I had an idea what Peroutka was really like.  He made it clear that he was opposed to abortion in the cases of rape and incest, and when it came to voting to disaffilate a state party that knowingly elected candidates and leaders that would allow abortion in the cases of rape and incest, he voted his principles.  I had no idea what Howard Phillips and Jim Clymer were really like.

Randy Stufflebeam did not include Corsi on his list of preferred candidates, but he did include Michael Peroutka.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I doubt Corsi will be the Constitution Party&#8217;s nominee unless he changes his position on Iraq in particular and foreign policy in general.  The party has consistently maintained that the use of force in Iraq is unconstitutional.</p>
	<p>It is one thing to nominate a different candidate, it is another thing entirely to claim that the party&#8217;s last presidential nominee is &#8220;distorted.&#8221;  I had an idea what Peroutka was really like.  He made it clear that he was opposed to abortion in the cases of rape and incest, and when it came to voting to disaffilate a state party that knowingly elected candidates and leaders that would allow abortion in the cases of rape and incest, he voted his principles.  I had no idea what Howard Phillips and Jim Clymer were really like.</p>
	<p>Randy Stufflebeam did not include Corsi on his list of preferred candidates, but he did include Michael Peroutka.</p>
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		<title>by: Cody Quirk</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-106692</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-106692</guid>
					<description>BTW, Congress gave the consent to Bush to use force in Iraq, so the Iraqi war is semi-constitutional in a way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">BTW</span>, Congress gave the consent to Bush to use force in Iraq, so the Iraqi war is semi-constitutional in a way.</p>
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		<title>by: Cody Quirk</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-106690</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-106690</guid>
					<description>We had no idea what Peroutka was REALLY like. No one thought he would go off the deep end to extreminism. Even Chris Hansen voted for Peroutka at the time, as did I. But no way will Peroutka be our candidate again, ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>We had no idea what Peroutka was <span class="caps">REALLY</span> like. No one thought he would go off the deep end to extreminism. Even Chris Hansen voted for Peroutka at the time, as did I. But no way will Peroutka be our candidate again, ever.</p>
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		<title>by: Cody Quirk</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-106689</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-106689</guid>
					<description>Joe,

Again, if Corsi wants to be our candidate for Prez. As long as the CP convention votes in favor of him, then yes.

You're not in the national CP anymore, so you don't have any voice.

And if you want to write in Peroutka's name in 2008, then go for it.
- - - 
I don't care for Gilchrist, but John acted like a complete jerk and repeatedly tried to nail Jim to the wall in the interview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Joe,</p>
	<p>Again, if Corsi wants to be our candidate for Prez. As long as the CP convention votes in favor of him, then yes.</p>
	<p>You&#8217;re not in the national CP anymore, so you don&#8217;t have any voice.</p>
	<p>And if you want to write in Peroutka&#8217;s name in 2008, then go for it. &#8211; - &#8211; I don&#8217;t care for Gilchrist, but John acted like a complete jerk and repeatedly tried to nail Jim to the wall in the interview.</p>
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		<title>by: Joe</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-106087</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-106087</guid>
					<description>Chris,

If Peroutka is so distorted, why did the Constitution Party nominate him in 2004?  Who did you vote for President that year?  Why does the chairman of the Illinois party put him on his list of preferred presidential candidate for 2008?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Chris,</p>
	<p>If Peroutka is so distorted, why did the Constitution Party nominate him in 2004?  Who did you vote for President that year?  Why does the chairman of the Illinois party put him on his list of preferred presidential candidate for 2008?</p>
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		<title>by: Chris</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-106072</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-106072</guid>
					<description>Jumping down ones throat and almost out of his seat on top of Zappa, cutting him off was not a great style.

Again, Gilchrist may not have been as prepared or distracted. It does not mean he is dumb or wishy-washy. Odd, right after Peroutka's future in CP went south, this interview  was held. Hmmm........

As far as not disagreeing with Peroutka---no kidding Joe, you never do. Not when the show says this country was founded in 1620 (oddly, separate colonies with separate governing styles, etc). Not that a certain religious group founded it, apparently solely by itself.

The show is becoming a sadly distored Reconstructionist, Rhasoodny-like venue.

Then again, arguing with disotrted men is rather fruitless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Jumping down ones throat and almost out of his seat on top of Zappa, cutting him off was not a great style.</p>
	<p>Again, Gilchrist may not have been as prepared or distracted. It does not mean he is dumb or wishy-washy. Odd, right after Peroutka&#8217;s future in CP went south, this interview  was held. Hmmm&#8230;.....</p>
	<p>As far as not disagreeing with Peroutka&#8212;-no kidding Joe, you never do. Not when the show says this country was founded in 1620 (oddly, separate colonies with separate governing styles, etc). Not that a certain religious group founded it, apparently solely by itself.</p>
	<p>The show is becoming a sadly distored Reconstructionist, Rhasoodny-like venue.</p>
	<p>Then again, arguing with disotrted men is rather fruitless.</p>
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		<title>by: Joe</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-105119</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-105119</guid>
					<description>Trent,

Did you view John's debate with the United Methodist Church?
http://www.theamericanview.com/index.php?id=493
Sartorial choices aside, I thought it was similar to the Zappa debate and I loved it.  Do you think he has improved since then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Trent,</p>
	<p>Did you view John&#8217;s debate with the United Methodist Church?<br />
<a href='http://www.theamericanview.com/index.php?id=493' rel='nofollow'>http://www.theamericanview.com/index.php?id=493</a><br />
Sartorial choices aside, I thought it was similar to the Zappa debate and I loved it.  Do you think he has improved since then?</p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-104989</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 06:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-104989</guid>
					<description>I am a CPer, and honestly have no problem with Peroutka (or most of the disafiliators period.)
But Lofton was SOOO an ass on that Zappa interview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I am a CPer, and honestly have no problem with Peroutka (or most of the disafiliators period.)<br />
But Lofton was <span class="caps">SOOO</span> an ass on that Zappa interview.</p>
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		<title>by: Joe</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-104666</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-104666</guid>
					<description>You are right I am an unabashed Peroutka supporter.  I voted for him in convention in '04 and I voted for him again in the general election that year.  Note that the chairman of the Constitution Party of Illinois included him on the list of his preferred candidates.  

If there is another candidate in the race whose views I agree with on the issues that are most important to me as much as Michael Peroutka I will consider voting for him.  But right now I don't see anyone like that.  I never heard of Michael Peroutka before probably the winter of 2003.  The first thing I did is ask him his position on three key issues.  I was pleasantly surprised at his answers.  I then watched and listened to several radio and television interviews he did and my enthusiasm grew.  If I had invented my ideal candidate out of whole cloth, I could hardly have done better.  Since I voted for him I have listened to most of his nearly 100 radio broadcasts and I could not name one thing that I have heard that I disagreed with.  

I was not referring to Gilchrist's Catholic upbringing.  I was referring to the fact that when I listened to John interview him, I did not feel confident that he had a clear idea what he believed.  You may disagree with Michael, but I doubt many would say the same about him.  

I love John Lofton's style.  I never heard of him before his speech at the 2004 Constitution Party convention.  I joined the rest of the convention in giving him a standing ovation.  I love John's style.  I watched the Zappa exchange and don't think he acted like an ass at all.   Theirs is definitely my favorite radio show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>You are right I am an unabashed Peroutka supporter.  I voted for him in convention in &#8216;04 and I voted for him again in the general election that year.  Note that the chairman of the Constitution Party of Illinois included him on the list of his preferred candidates.</p>
	<p>If there is another candidate in the race whose views I agree with on the issues that are most important to me as much as Michael Peroutka I will consider voting for him.  But right now I don&#8217;t see anyone like that.  I never heard of Michael Peroutka before probably the winter of 2003.  The first thing I did is ask him his position on three key issues.  I was pleasantly surprised at his answers.  I then watched and listened to several radio and television interviews he did and my enthusiasm grew.  If I had invented my ideal candidate out of whole cloth, I could hardly have done better.  Since I voted for him I have listened to most of his nearly 100 radio broadcasts and I could not name one thing that I have heard that I disagreed with.</p>
	<p>I was not referring to Gilchrist&#8217;s Catholic upbringing.  I was referring to the fact that when I listened to John interview him, I did not feel confident that he had a clear idea what he believed.  You may disagree with Michael, but I doubt many would say the same about him.</p>
	<p>I love John Lofton&#8217;s style.  I never heard of him before his speech at the 2004 Constitution Party convention.  I joined the rest of the convention in giving him a standing ovation.  I love John&#8217;s style.  I watched the Zappa exchange and don&#8217;t think he acted like an ass at all.   Theirs is definitely my favorite radio show.</p>
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		<title>by: Chris</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-104585</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-104585</guid>
					<description>Joe says:&quot;Trent,

I will unless another candidate enters the race who meets the biblical standards for civil magistrates. I agree with Gary about Gilchrist. I was shocked by his interview with John Lofton. His faith seemed wishy washy which of course led to wishy washy answers&quot;

Let us remember that typical of Lofton's style, this was a hit interview-much like a drive by. It was inteded to bait and attack. Just watch Lofton debate Zappa, he was right in his opinions, but acted like an ass and cut off the rope Zappa could use to hang himself.

Gilchrist was not as slick as Peroutka, but not everyone has answers as quick to throw out. Why his faith is wishy-washy is beyone me, maybe Joe is referring to Gilchrists Catholic upbringing, which is unacceptable to certain ex-CPers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Joe says:&#8221;Trent,</p>
	<p>I will unless another candidate enters the race who meets the biblical standards for civil magistrates. I agree with Gary about Gilchrist. I was shocked by his interview with John Lofton. His faith seemed wishy washy which of course led to wishy washy answers&#8221;</p>
	<p>Let us remember that typical of Lofton&#8217;s style, this was a hit interview-much like a drive by. It was inteded to bait and attack. Just watch Lofton debate Zappa, he was right in his opinions, but acted like an ass and cut off the rope Zappa could use to hang himself.</p>
	<p>Gilchrist was not as slick as Peroutka, but not everyone has answers as quick to throw out. Why his faith is wishy-washy is beyone me, maybe Joe is referring to Gilchrists Catholic upbringing, which is unacceptable to certain ex-CPers</p>
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		<title>by: Chris</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-104579</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Joe is an unabashed Peroutka supporter.

I supported Peroutka in 2004, but now he regularly uses his radio program to attack the CP and  dissuade likely supporters and voters (I have heard many &quot;now that you have abandoned your pro-life platform...&quot; thanks to him).

Add to this his right hand communications director, John Lofton, who continues to scathe the CP and now refers to himself as a Recovering CPer.

Add Joe and others to the attack dogs...well, you get the picture, Peroutka would receive little warmth from most in the CP. Though he is by large a nice guy, his attack dogs have done damage to him beyond measure.

Then again, there are those pesky people the TAV hates in the CP and failed to purge- Catholics, Mormons...then I guess, Arminians, who else.

THey would have to purge these folks. Maybe Peroutka will run in '08 on the AHP platform, though largely irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Joe is an unabashed Peroutka supporter.</p>
	<p>I supported Peroutka in 2004, but now he regularly uses his radio program to attack the CP and  dissuade likely supporters and voters (I have heard many &#8220;now that you have abandoned your pro-life platform&#8230;&#8221; thanks to him).</p>
	<p>Add to this his right hand communications director, John Lofton, who continues to scathe the CP and now refers to himself as a Recovering CPer.</p>
	<p>Add Joe and others to the attack dogs&#8230;well, you get the picture, Peroutka would receive little warmth from most in the CP. Though he is by large a nice guy, his attack dogs have done damage to him beyond measure.</p>
	<p>Then again, there are those pesky people the <span class="caps">TAV</span> hates in the CP and failed to purge- Catholics, Mormons&#8230;then I guess, Arminians, who else.</p>
	<p>THey would have to purge these folks. Maybe Peroutka will run in &#8216;08 on the <span class="caps">AHP</span> platform, though largely irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-104418</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-104418</guid>
					<description>Immediate? Probably not. 
Quick. Probably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Immediate? Probably not.<br />
Quick. Probably.</p>
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		<title>by: Joe</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-104396</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/01/25/constitution-party-of-illinois-chairman-discusses-possible-presidential-candidates/#comment-104396</guid>
					<description>Matt,

Wisdom so often never comes that I generally don't complain when it arrives late.  But I am not aware of any evidence that Corsi has turned on Bush on this issue.  I am not talking about griping about a difference of tactics.  Does Corsi favor the immediate withdrawal of America's military from Iraq and all other oveseas deployments the way Michael Peroutka did in '04 and continues to today?  If he does great, but I don't think he does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Matt,</p>
	<p>Wisdom so often never comes that I generally don&#8217;t complain when it arrives late.  But I am not aware of any evidence that Corsi has turned on Bush on this issue.  I am not talking about griping about a difference of tactics.  Does Corsi favor the immediate withdrawal of America&#8217;s military from Iraq and all other oveseas deployments the way Michael Peroutka did in &#8216;04 and continues to today?  If he does great, but I don&#8217;t think he does.</p>
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