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	<title>Comments on: American Heritage Party report on Chicago meeting</title>
	<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/</link>
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		<title>by: Cody Quirk</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-140938</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, just in case I run out of ammo. Hahaha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, just in case I run out of ammo. Hahaha!</p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-140432</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-140432</guid>
					<description>Machete? Maybe you need to take marksman lessons....no one should get close enough for you to use a machete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Machete? Maybe you need to take marksman lessons&#8230;.no one should get close enough for you to use a machete.</p>
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		<title>by: Cody Quirk</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-138094</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-138094</guid>
					<description>=ESPECIALLY Constitutionalists! I’d march to Washington gun in hand.

Unlike you, I'd march to DC with a AR-15 in one hand and a machete in the other</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>=ESPECIALLY Constitutionalists! I&#8217;d march to Washington gun in hand.</p>
	<p>Unlike you, I&#8217;d march to DC with a AR-15 in one hand and a machete in the other</p>
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		<title>by: Cody Quirk</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-136179</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-136179</guid>
					<description>Trent,

I'm not sure, first, I'm trying to see if I can get family bonding leave from work, but that's gotten complicated recently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Trent,</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m not sure, first, I&#8217;m trying to see if I can get family bonding leave from work, but that&#8217;s gotten complicated recently.</p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-135518</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-135518</guid>
					<description>Agreed. And to be honest, I think thats better. In my state's upcoming elections, I will probably vote LP in a number of races. There are not many CP candidates here,as of yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Agreed. And to be honest, I think thats better. In my state&#8217;s upcoming elections, I will probably vote LP in a number of races. There are not many CP candidates here,as of yet.</p>
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		<title>by: matt</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-135364</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-135364</guid>
					<description>I think that's fair, Trent. 

That's certainly what I do at the ballot box.

In the last election I voted for some CP candidates. Usually I did it if they had better publicity than the Lib. and had stands on the issues I could appreciate, or if the LP guy was horrible. On the internet, I just shift into debate mode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think that&#8217;s fair, Trent.</p>
	<p>That&#8217;s certainly what I do at the ballot box.</p>
	<p>In the last election I voted for some CP candidates. Usually I did it if they had better publicity than the Lib. and had stands on the issues I could appreciate, or if the LP guy was horrible. On the internet, I just shift into debate mode.</p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-134982</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-134982</guid>
					<description>Matt, what with all the other freedoms being burned. I think we can agree to walk across the bridge before we start throwing rocks over Prostitution and Illicit drugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Matt, what with all the other freedoms being burned. I think we can agree to walk across the bridge before we start throwing rocks over Prostitution and Illicit drugs.</p>
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		<title>by: matt</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-134893</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-134893</guid>
					<description>I think we are in fundamental agreement,  Cody.

I believe that the state should bear the sword (use coercion) only to punish crime, and that only that which harms the individual should be illegal.

Personally, I would be very happy to live in a country whose laws confromed to the CP platform, but that platform would fail to provide say, drug users and homosexuals with the freedom I feel tthey deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think we are in fundamental agreement,  Cody.</p>
	<p>I believe that the state should bear the sword (use coercion) only to punish crime, and that only that which harms the individual should be illegal.</p>
	<p>Personally, I would be very happy to live in a country whose laws confromed to the CP platform, but that platform would fail to provide say, drug users and homosexuals with the freedom I feel tthey deserve.</p>
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		<title>by: John Chance</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-134753</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-134753</guid>
					<description>Angela,

Take your own advice-don't question men. After all, Perouta and Co do not want women over men.

Sounds like you are not &quot;remaining silent&quot;!!! If this continues, we may have to then presume you were not one of the &quot;predestined before time&quot; folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Angela,</p>
	<p>Take your own advice-don&#8217;t question men. After all, Perouta and Co do not want women over men.</p>
	<p>Sounds like you are not &#8220;remaining silent&#8221;<img src="!" alt="" border="0" /> If this continues, we may have to then presume you were not one of the &#8220;predestined before time&#8221; folks.</p>
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		<title>by: DP</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-134752</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-134752</guid>
					<description>The question then comes up-who is to decide what God thinks, who is qualified for office, etc.

When divergent peoples try  to meet-well, look at Tampa and aftermath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The question then comes up-who is to decide what God thinks, who is qualified for office, etc.</p>
	<p>When divergent peoples try  to meet-well, look at Tampa and aftermath.</p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-134688</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-134688</guid>
					<description>Cody, are you going to Boise? I recieved some sort of email about &quot;registration&quot;? I didnt register anywhere...just bought plane tickets.

&quot;Even real Constitutionalists would fight such a government as a Theonomy from taking place.&quot;
=ESPECIALLY Constitutionalists! I'd march to Washington gun in hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Cody, are you going to Boise? I recieved some sort of email about &#8220;registration&#8221;? I didnt register anywhere&#8230;just bought plane tickets.</p>
	<p>&#8220;Even real Constitutionalists would fight such a government as a Theonomy from taking place.&#8221;<br />
=ESPECIALLY Constitutionalists! I&#8217;d march to Washington gun in hand.</p>
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		<title>by: Cody Quirk</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-134539</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-134539</guid>
					<description>Matt, you didn’t really answer my question. You say God’s laws are not suitable for a pluralist free society. Are you saying that God does not proscribe murder, or that laws against murder are not suitable for a pluralist, free society?

=I think what Matt is trying to say is that there are some scenarios where religion and government do not necessarily go together. And even atheists and humanists agree that murder is unlawful.
Our American Republic is NEVER meant to be a Theocracy, the Founding Fathers strictly intended to keep our Government from becoming a organ for one Church or creed, or from regulating religious liberty.

=Believe it or not, if you have a non-Theocratic/theonomic government- as long as the members of the non-theocratic/theonomic government are devoted to Him in their personal lives and keep their government clean and free of corruption, then God is OK with that.

It depends what you mean by “any attempt to institute them would involve coercion.” If you mean that government should use coercion when enforcing laws such as those against murder, I agree. If you mean that we intend dictatorial rule by self-appointed men who claim to rule for God, I disagree.

=A elite minority controlling the majority, enforcing one view of religious laws against a people who have different takes on such laws or beliefs.
That is as tyrannical and anti-American as establishing a Stalinist government in America. Even real Constitutionalists would fight such a government as a Theonomy from taking place.

=I think I understand now, you wanted to make the CP advocate for these goals in government and society, yet you failed to take over and now you're upset that you couldn't gain power through the largest third party in terms of voter reg.
Well, too bad, good luck in the AHP or where ever.

=Joe, how about that offer on those 3-D glasses, your black and white (absolutionist) views are making your arguments look obtuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Matt, you didn&#8217;t really answer my question. You say God&#8217;s laws are not suitable for a pluralist free society. Are you saying that God does not proscribe murder, or that laws against murder are not suitable for a pluralist, free society?</p>
	<p>=I think what Matt is trying to say is that there are some scenarios where religion and government do not necessarily go together. And even atheists and humanists agree that murder is unlawful.<br />
Our American Republic is <span class="caps">NEVER</span> meant to be a Theocracy, the Founding Fathers strictly intended to keep our Government from becoming a organ for one Church or creed, or from regulating religious liberty.</p>
	<p>=Believe it or not, if you have a non-Theocratic/theonomic government- as long as the members of the non-theocratic/theonomic government are devoted to Him in their personal lives and keep their government clean and free of corruption, then God is OK with that.</p>
	<p>It depends what you mean by &#8220;any attempt to institute them would involve coercion.&#8221; If you mean that government should use coercion when enforcing laws such as those against murder, I agree. If you mean that we intend dictatorial rule by self-appointed men who claim to rule for God, I disagree.</p>
	<p>=A elite minority controlling the majority, enforcing one view of religious laws against a people who have different takes on such laws or beliefs.<br />
That is as tyrannical and anti-American as establishing a Stalinist government in America. Even real Constitutionalists would fight such a government as a Theonomy from taking place.</p>
	<p>=I think I understand now, you wanted to make the CP advocate for these goals in government and society, yet you failed to take over and now you&#8217;re upset that you couldn&#8217;t gain power through the largest third party in terms of voter reg.<br />
Well, too bad, good luck in the <span class="caps">AHP</span> or where ever.</p>
	<p>=Joe, how about that offer on those 3-D glasses, your black and white (absolutionist) views are making your arguments look obtuse.</p>
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		<title>by: Cody Quirk</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-134530</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Establishing a test for candidates to meet God’s ‘biblical qualifications’ for office, does not over-ride the US Constitution nor does it force everybody to conform to our ideals. Others are free to continue voting for whomever they want.

=Joe, just admit you're not a Constitutionalist, OK. Because it says No Reilgious Tests. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Establishing a test for candidates to meet God&#8217;s &#8216;biblical qualifications&#8217; for office, does not over-ride the <span class="caps">US </span>Constitution nor does it force everybody to conform to our ideals. Others are free to continue voting for whomever they want.</p>
	<p>=Joe, just admit you&#8217;re not a Constitutionalist, OK. Because it says No Reilgious Tests. Period.</p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-134426</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Matt,

Im actually not catholic...and I know Joe isnt. But it sounded better than &quot;Thats what you'll have to tell....Billy Graham?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Matt,</p>
	<p>Im actually not catholic&#8230;and I know Joe isnt. But it sounded better than &#8220;Thats what you&#8217;ll have to tell&#8230;.Billy Graham?&#8221; </p>
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		<title>by: matt</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-134303</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/03/09/american-heritage-party-report-on-chicago-meeting/#comment-134303</guid>
					<description>sinnded.

freakin ridiculous. 

my aplologies to everyone who has to read that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>sinnded.</p>
	<p>freakin ridiculous.</p>
	<p>my aplologies to everyone who has to read that.</p>
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