2004 Libertarian Vice-Presidential candidate endorses Ron Paul for President 2008


2. Do you think that you could support any of the potential 2008 Republican or Democratic nominees for President?

Yes, many of them express libertarian principles towards which I am sympathetic. Many of them have personal styles and philosophies of life which are congruent with my own.

3. Michael Badnark, your running mate in 2004, says that Libertraians should get behind Ron Paul’s Republican candidacy, what do you think?

I think that is a very wise idea. Ron Paul is the essence of a “mainstream libertarian.”

You can read the rest of the brief interview with Richard Campagna at Conservative President 2008

That site is currently running a presidential poll in which Ron Paul is currently leading with 72%, followed by Michael Peroutka (who has not declared his candidacy) with 14%. George Phillies currently is under 3% in that unscientific poll.

They also have an interview with the chairman of the America First Party of Ohio in which he announces that the AFP will not be running a candidate for President of the United States in 2008. In 2004, the America First Party endorsed Peroutka-Baldwin.

62 Responses to “2004 Libertarian Vice-Presidential candidate endorses Ron Paul for President 2008”

  1. Cody Quirk Says:

    followed by Michael Peroutka (who has not declared his candidacy)

    =Maybe its because you don’t have Jerome Corsi, Jim Clymer, Howard Phillips, or Alan Keyes listed at all, just him, Ron and a bunch of Libertarians.

  2. globalist_elitist Says:

    Dr. Ron Paul endorsed by “Dr.” Richard Campagna.

  3. Trent Hill Says:

    GE,
    ITS A MEDICAL CONSPIRACY! HAHA

    Cody,
    Jerome Corsi, Jim Clymer, Howard Phillips, and Alan Keyes have all ALSO not declared their candidacy. Furthermore, he had a poll up before this one which had Jerome Corsi as the CP candidate.

  4. globalist_elitist Says:

    Trent: Did you know that “Dr.” Richard Campagna got his PhD from a diploma mill? It was a minor scandal in ‘04. Badnarik-Campagna had to be the most embarassing ticket in history. Although Badnarik wasn’t really embarassing until two years later.

    Hey, what about the “announced candidate” P. Dale Thompson! He rocks

    For real, I would like honest feedback about a possible Green/CP fusion candidacy by Lou Dobbs. I think he is popular with both voting blocs, am I wrong?

  5. Doug Craig Says:

    GE

    You are right DR. Campagna was a bad joke. I know of nothing he added to the 2004 campaign.
    BTW
    has Badnarik sent out anything on his US House Race, has he answered any questions about why it went sooo bad.

  6. Trent Hill Says:

    Doug Craig,

    No,not really.

    GE,
    I actually DIDNT know that. Course I didnt pay much attention to Badnarik/Campagna in ‘04.

    If you even suggest Lou Dobbs again, ill probably vomit.

  7. Joe Says:

    I don’t watch much television news, but when I do Lou Dobbs is about the only one I can stomach. He has stated many times though that he is not running for president in 2008. He his also a longtime Republican.

  8. Conservative President 2008, editor Says:

    There have been monthly polls at the Conservative President 2008 since November. Jim Gilchrist, Chuck Baldwin, Jerome Corsi (who won in that poll), Roy Moore and Michael Peroutka have all be included in the polls and more are to come.

    Also, the CP08 has had interviews with Chuck Baldwin, Jerome Corsi and Randy Stufflebeam (Chairman of the Illinois Constitution Party).

    However, there is not a link list of Constitution Party candidates, like there is not a list of Green Party candidates, because there are not enough official candidates running but, a link to the Politics 1 candidate list is provided for any candidates not listed on my blog.

  9. globalist_elitist Says:

    Dobbs has renounced the Republican Party. If anything, he is more Dem-leaning. HE HATES LIBERTARIANS, though. And they hate him. The problem is, a lot of Libertarians talk and think just like him.

    Sure, Dobbs may not be 100% on the issues with the Greens and CP, but I think they could unify behind him. Again, this would hasten what I predict to be a future realignment of the parties. I don’t know which major party will be which, but I predict there will be one that is pro-growth and another that is anti-growth. Dobbs can unite the anti-growth left and right by not being particularly offensive to either, just as someone like John Mackey could on the pro-growth side.

  10. globalist_elitist Says:

    I’d support Randy Stufflebeam as the non-evil candidate. He was a pleasant guy with a good sense of humor when he used to post here at TPW.

  11. globalist_elitist Says:

    The best commentator on news is the anti-Lou Dobbs, Larry Kudlow. His show is awesome! I got it on TiVo.

  12. Trent Hill Says:

    Dobbs, I could care less about.

    As for your sarcastic suggestion that the CP and GP combine. I think I would throw up. The fact that you can’t seperate Protectionist capitalists from Socialists shows exactly how fringe you are.

  13. globalist_elitist Says:

    I’m not saying the parties combine. I’m saying (not sarcastically) that they could both support the same candidate. Hey, you have Greens supporting Nader and some of the right-wing Reform lines CONSIDERED nominating him too (I’m not sure if any did). Dobbs would be a much more appealing candidate to the protectionists than Nader, right???

  14. globalist_elitist Says:

    Put it this way: Lou Dobbs represents a CP/GP fusion a helluvalot better than “Robert Milnes” represents an LP/GP one.

  15. Trent Hill Says:

    No, no he doesnt. The CP wouldnt accept Lou Dobbs any more than Ralph Nader.

    Nor would the GP touch him.

  16. matt Says:

    Dobbs could win a Senatorial election as a dem in most states, I daresay.

    I don’t think any of the 3rd parties could be induced to take him. He is the face of protectionism in 2007, but I don’t think either the GP or the CP want to be defined by that issue.

  17. matt Says:

    Actually, if the Reform party were still around, I think he could lay a pretty good claim to the role of Ross Perot’s ideological successor.

    That, plus $1.50 gets you on the El in Chicago.

  18. globalist_elitist Says:

    matt – you prove my point. Here in Michigan, when the Reform Party imploded, half of the members went to the GP and the other half went to the CP. It’s true! I don’t know how the people got along in the same party, but they did.

  19. Cody Quirk Says:

    Jerome Corsi, Jim Clymer, Howard Phillips, and Alan Keyes have all ALSO not declared their candidacy.

    =Neither has Peroutka.

  20. Trent Hill Says:

    GE, they didnt really get along. Thus the implosion.
    Half of them were Buchanite ‘Pitchfork Brigades’ attempting a hostile takeover. The other half were Natural Law type/Independants.
    You can guess which sides went to which party.

    Cody, thats why i said “ALSO”.

  21. globalist_elitist Says:

    Yes, but these people did come together under Perot. I was once a supporter of Perot – before I saw the light – but I met other supporters who were hardcore right-wing, and it shocked me. I guarantee there are pitchforkers who love Dobbs and patchuli eaters who love him too. They couldn’t unite to form a long-lasting party (see Reform), but they could unite behind a Dobbs candidacy. And no, I’m not being sarcastic. But my point is to show you how wrong protectionism is when it is a view shared by the Greens (who are clearly mentally ill).

  22. matt Says:

    GE,
    That is intruiging.

  23. Trent Hill Says:

    GE,
    Its also wrong. I dont know many people in the CP who would back a Dobbs candidacy, certainly not the leadership. and if they did,they’d lose my vote.

    As for the Greens, they might endorse him as a sell-out candidate. Simply a way to buck the system and get more votes, but he would not truly be representative of their views.

    As for protectionism being wrong because the Greens share it.
    Some Greens also believe that the Fed is evil.
    Some believe it is doing a great job.
    The majority of Greens believe that saving the environment is important.
    Ad hominem…you know better GE.

  24. globalist_elitist Says:

    Where the CP and GP unite is behind the idea that growth is bad. In the not-too-distant future, things like abortion, sodomy, etc., will be cultural norms. The children of CPers, GPers, and their like minds from the GOP and Democratic Party, will be part of a protectionist Wall Party; while the thinking people, the doing people, the self-made, and those who inspire to be wealthy, will constitute the pro-capitalist Web Party. These are thoughts I had (not the party names) before reading The World is Flat, but the book makes the great case.

  25. globalist_elitist Says:

    Here is an essay I wrote on this issue:
    ———————-

    George W. Bush’s presidency will go down in history as one of the worst ever, but he may be even more notable as the last of the Big Business Republicans. Bush and his master, Karl Rover, support a policy of relatively open borders – not in the name of freedom, not even in the name of cheap labor for their corporate paymasters, but in the name of preventing the emergence of a Democratic majority in Texas. They want to keep Texas from going blue and the only way to do that is to convince more brown Texans to vote red.

    Despite the Machiavellian motives of the pro-immigration Republican minority, the result of their sensible policies, if enacted, would be positive – freer people and freer markets. The US Chamber of Commerce, which is the largest business lobby in the country, supports open immigration, but the majority of Republican officeholders and the vast majority of Republican voters do not. Their xenophobic, anti-capitalist Know-Nothingism is undermining the business community’s support for the GOP and realigning political formations that have stood since the end of the second civil rights movement. Call this Act III.

    The first civil rights movement culminated with the abolition of slavery and lasted until the end of Reconstruction. Radical Republicans stressed equality for newly emancipated blacks, and the pro-business and pro-freedom factions of the country were aligned. The old Democratic Party of Jefferson and Jackson was entirely decimated, and the US existed as a one-party state for several years. The new Democratic Party that emerged near the end of Reconstruction was founded explicitly on white supremacy – and this is the Democratic Party to which Nancy Pelosi, Russ Feingold, and the Congressional Black Caucus now blindly pledge allegiance.

    The second civil rights movement began with Truman’s integration of the armed forces; an act that lost the South for the Democratic nominee for the first time since the end of Reconstruction. Act II continued with JFK and LBJ, the latter of whom signed the Civil Rights Act and handed the racist South to Republican Barry Goldwater in a sweep of the Jim Crowe Bible Belt. The South has remained Republican ever since, and the Democrats – the party that grew out of terrorist “White Leagues” of the 1860s and ‘70s – became known as the party of civil rights… At least until those civil rights were, for the most part, attained by their core constituencies.

    Civil rights movements have wreaked havoc on the two-party system. The first obliterated one of the major parties, and the second one split the Democrats in two. The old Dixiecrat wing slowly switched to GOP, as evidenced by the racist hypocrite Strom Thrumond (who fathered a black child out of wedlock while preaching “Segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!”) and his switch from the left side of the aisle to the right. Now, this third civil rights movement – the one in which the color of the oppressed people’s skin is brown, not black – is threatening to tear the Republican Party in two.

    Thomas Frank’s book, What’s the Matter With Kansas, politely poses the question, “Why do racists and theocrats vote Republican? They used to be solid Democratic votes!” This is true. The populist hero and many-time Democratic presidential nominee, William Jennings Bryan, was an avowed white supremacist and religious fundamentalist, as well as the muse for several socialist ballads. Bryan prosecuted the Scopes-Monkey Trial which sought to jail John T. Scopes for teaching evolution. Scopes was defended by Clarence Darrow, an atheist, pro-business Republican.

    The alignment between the radical Christian right and pro-growth fiscal conservatives has never made much sense. The business community is pro-gay, secular, and multi-cultural to the point of political correctness. Logic and science are exalted in the world of business, whereas they are decried as sacrilege by America’s equivalent of the Taliban. Finally, theocracy is fundamentally incompatible with capitalism, and historically, religious zealots have led the “progressive” movements to stamp out the free market.

    I predict that in the years to come, the two-party system will realign into one party that is secular and pro-growth, and another that is religious, protectionist, and anti-immigrant. I predict that the reliable “black vote” will be for the latter, and the Hispanic vote will be for the former. I cannot say which major party will be for which cause, nor can I guarantee that both parties will even continue to exist, in name. It has been 146 years since the final demise of the Whigs, and one of our two major parties may be soon joining them in the ash heap of history. Good riddance.

  26. Trent Hill Says:

    It wasnt Strom Thurmund that said “Segregarion today…etc” was it?
    Wasnt it George Wallace?

  27. globalist_elitist Says:

    Yeah, I realized that. I should have edited it before reposting. Thurmond did run on a segregationist ticket, though.

  28. Trent Hill Says:

    Yep, actually,he ran on the States’ Rights ticket…which was ALSO segregationist.
    He always got alot of the black vote.

  29. globalist_elitist Says:

    Yeah, you’re right, he was a great guy.

  30. Trent Hill Says:

    HAHA. Im not saying he was. I personally wouldn’t vote for him, due to his segregationist past.
    However, I would take late (non-segregationist) Strom Thurmond over current George Bush anyday. He is far less authoritarian, far more capitalistic, and no longer spouts racist rhetoric. You also have to understand that alot of people who are otherwise considered Libertarian/Constitutionalist heroes were racists. Von Mises has been accused, as has Milton Friedman (although I cant say I believe the Milton Friedman accusation). It was part of the changing times.

    However, I am by no means an apologetic for modern racism. My fiance is a Cuban, and has experienced some of that stuff firsthand.

    However, your predictions seem way off base. Mainly due to the fact that you are saying “Browns” are more oppressed than “blacks”.
    Your history with the Green party says that you are, most importantly of all, a radical. You have bounced from the far left to the far right…and are obviously still searching for what you think is the real political solution. However, for you to redicule fellow Libertarians and small-government conservatives is pretty anti-growth itself. See, instead you could be working with these people in order to get as much “Growth” as possible out of all of them,and then we GET to a point where we have to fight,we can.

  31. globalist_elitist Says:

    Friedman and Goldwater were not racists. They were both accused for the same reason, opposing the Civil Rights Act, but both did so on small-government grounds. As did Ayn Rand. I do not agree with their positions, but they were not racists. Take Friedman’s Capitalism & Freedom chapter on racism, or Rand’s essay on racism as the crudest form of collectivism, etc. Goldwater was pro-choice, pro-gay rights.

    I’m not saying that blacks are less oppressed than Latinos. I’m saying the trend is going that way. I’m saying that being anti-black racist is not at all acceptable, but being anti-Mexican, anti-Indian, etc., is considerably more accepted. True? I think you’d have to agree.

    So you think I have bounced to the “far right”? I don’t think so. You are correct that I went from far left, to farther left, back around to anarchistic, but in the process, I have found my ethos in the emancipatory properties of capitalism. I don’t think I’m very radical at all. I’m probably the least radical person here. I think I propose less change to the government and society than anyone here. “Reduce spending, lower and flatten taxes, get out of people’s bedrooms, and get out of other countries.” That’s it.

  32. Trent Hill Says:

    I certainly would agree that being anti-mexican is now viewed as more acceptable than being anti-black.
    Why? I havent the slightest clue.

    However, I wouldnt agree that being anti-brown is now viewed as more acceptable than anti-black.
    Brown includes ALL hispanics and Indians.
    I have NEVER heard of someone being anti-indian (in modern times).
    I have NEVER heard of someone being anti-cuban (at least, anti cuban-american).
    I have only VERY rarely heard of someone being anti-uruguayan.

    It is Central America imparticular that garners the hatred. You decide why.

    Im not saying its right…but as the left so often likes to say, “These people don’t hate us for no reason.”

  33. globalist_elitist Says:

    You realize when I say INDIDAN, I mean actual people from India, right? If you aren’t familiar with people being racist against Indians, then you’re living under a rock, my friend.

  34. globalist_elitist Says:

    RE: Any “they” who hate any “us” – the reason = collectivist thinking. Ditch the socialism, the religion, the racism, etc. There is no “they” and there certainly is no “us.”

  35. Cody Quirk Says:

    Where the CP and GP unite is behind the idea that growth is bad. In the not-too-distant future, things like abortion, sodomy, etc., will be cultural norms. The children of CPers, GPers, and their like minds from the GOP and Democratic Party, will be part of a protectionist Wall Party; while the thinking people, the doing people, the self-made, and those who inspire to be wealthy, will constitute the pro-capitalist Web Party. These are thoughts I had (not the party names) before reading The World is Flat, but the book makes the great case.

    =Then all the leprechauns can ride the unicorns across the rainbow to the magical pixie land and I shall rule over all of Ireland!

    Hahahahahaha!

  36. Cody Quirk Says:

    George Wallace did the speech.

    Which wasn’t written by him.

  37. Cody Quirk Says:

    Also note that when Strom ran on the Dixiecrat ticket, George Wallace was a regular Democrat supporting Truman for President then. And when Wallace ran President as the AIP candidate, Strom Thurmond was GOP and going for Nixon in 68’.

    Ironic isn’t it.

  38. globalist_elitist Says:

    =Then all the leprechauns can ride the unicorns across the rainbow to the magical pixie land and I shall rule over all of Ireland!
    —-

    = 9/11 was an inside job, the Fed is a Communist conspiracy, the 16th amendment was never ratified.

  39. Trent Hill Says:

    GE,
    For one, Im not sure if Cody believes 9/11 was an inside job. I dont.
    Secondly, who said the Fed was a COMMUNIST CONSPIRACY? We just said it was a shadowy-socialist approach to currency.
    Third, Who cares if it was ratified? As you libertarians like to say, “Just because it is law, doesn’t mean it is right.”

  40. Cody Quirk Says:

    = 9/11 was an inside job, the Fed is a Communist conspiracy, the 16th amendment was never ratified.

    =Yeah I know that, but I’m not going to wear a tin-foil hat over it.

    Our government probably became corrupt either when Woodrow Wilson became President, or the GOP’ers and the establishment screwed over William Jennings Bryan in the 1896 Election.

    Basically, over government has been corrupt for so long and conspiracies have been going on within for such a long time that its something you live with while still working to change it.

    In fact I bet Roosevelt already knew Japan was going to attack Pearl Habor, he just had it covered up and let it happen.

  41. globalist_elitist Says:

    I don’t know if that post was serious or a half-joke. The government was certainly corrupt before Wilson, and WJB was the most radical leftist to ever serve as a major party nominee. If you don’t like the Fed, are you aware of WJB’s proposed economic policies? He wanted a Fed-like structure directly under Congress’s control. Imagine if Congress set monetary policy. We would have Mugabe-like inflation.

  42. Trent Hill Says:

    Cody….i disagree and then some.

  43. Cody Quirk Says:

    My post was half-sarcastic

  44. Cody Quirk Says:

    Uhm, GE, in Article 1, Sec. 8 of our Constitution it says that Congress has the power:
    “To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures…” FYI

  45. globalist_elitist Says:

    Yes. But there are charts that show the inverse relationship between the independence of central banks and the degree of inflation. The more political the monetary system, the more inflation. You want Congress in control of the money supply? We would be flooded with liquidity. They would continuously keep rates low, keep the printing presses churning out money, etc. Sometimes monetary policymakers have to make very tough, unpopular deciions. When has Congress ever had the balls to do this?

  46. Trent Hill Says:

    Oh ya, money was worth nothing before the Fed.

    ???!?

    you realize money had more purchasing power before the Fed right? And before it was rended from Gold, it was the most powerful currency on earth. Still would be if it were tied to Gold, the Euro would be sucking up our fumes.

  47. globalist_elitist Says:

    Money never has value. Only what you can buy with the money has value. I do not agree that the dollar has lost purchasing power, because inflation (loss of purchasing power) calculations do not take into account advances in technology. Regardless, it is irrelavent if the dollar has lost purchasing power, so long as household income has kept up with inflation, which it has (and then some). Inflation, in moderation, is a good thing. It encourages economic activity. It encourages investment and discourages hording. Good monetary policy shoots for very low inflation, but never allows deflation, which is an economy killer. The economic history of the U.S., pre-Fed (and even after the Fed, pre revaluation by FDR) was one of major busts brought about by delfation. And the absence of deflation in the post-FDR era is why growth has been so great.

  48. globalist_elitist Says:

    Gold is a worthless pagan sacrament.

  49. Andy Says:

    “globalist_elitist Says:

    April 2nd, 2007 at 2:28 am
    Gold is a worthless pagan sacrament.”

    And paper backed up with nothing is worth something. You are a true moron.

  50. globalist_elitist Says:

    It, like gold, is worth whatever people believe it is. Inherently, it is worthless. Just like gold. The only difference is that it can be created out of thin air to suit the needs of a growing economy, whereas gold must be mined at great cost, and is not sufficiently accomodating of economic growth.

    It’s about sophistication. Gold, as money, is more sophisticated than pre-gold monetary systems, but less so than post-gold systems. Gold, on its own, has no intrinsic value. When you fail to realize this, you are starting from a false premise and there’s no where for you to go from there.

  51. Trent Hill Says:

    The difference, GE, is that Paper currency can lose its “intrinsic value” much faster than Gold does.

  52. globalist_elitist Says:

    Yes, that is true.

    But the converse – that gold can GAIN value too quickly – DEFLATION - is much more serious of a problem. Look at economic history. Most of America’s problems were not due to inflation, but deflation.

    And you’re also not 100% correct if you look at how gold has behaved since the 80’s vs. the dollar. But in general, you are right, and that’s all the more reason to NOT use gold as a monetary standard or monetary device.

    The greater the independnece of a central bank, the greater the stability of prices. The fact that gold has “held its value” or that its value has gone up relative to gold in the very long run is an anti-growth signal, not a stability one. Minimal inflation (i.e. maybe 1% would be best) is a good thing.

  53. Trent Hill Says:

    Gold was not tied to the dollar in the 80’s. Moot point.

  54. globalist_elitist Says:

    How is the point moot? The point is that the dollar has maintained its purchasing power better than gold since the 80s. With a gold standard, there can’t be such variances, so there would be no point to be made.

  55. Trent Hill Says:

    Thats because gold hasn’t been our monetary standard since then. Comparing their value is moot because the dollar is tied to our economy,and gold is not.

  56. globalist_elitist Says:

    You’re not making any sense.

    If gold is artificially tied to the dollar, then the two move in synch. In such case, there would be no case to be made. There would be no way to compare the two.

    When the two float freely, the gold advocates would have us believe that gold will maintain its purchasing power better than the dollar. The fact is that this has not been the case, due to wild speculation.

    But even I would agree that this is an anomoly. Gold will maintain its purchasing power better than the dollar, and that’s precicely what’s wrong with it.

  57. Trent Hill Says:

    The dollar is NOT floating freely. That is my point. Let’s review.
    Gold is NOT tied to the U.S. Economy.
    The Dollar IS tied to the U.S. Economy.

    Thus,an unbalanced amount of stability is obviously favoring the dollar. That is why this is such a contentious debate,because neither can be compared objectively…one of them has always been tied to the economy.

  58. globalist_elitist Says:

    The dollar is “tied to the economy”?

    Obviously.

    I don’t know how to rebut that statement.

    It is better to have a currency “tied to the economy” then an economy tied to a commodity.

  59. Trent Hill Says:

    ...you can’t rebut it GE, because it is true. That isn’t a statement which is part of the arguement, but a fact.
    My POINT is, that unless both the DOLLAR and GOLD were seperated from the economic stability of the United States, you can never know which one floats best. And since cutting the dollar from the U.S. Economic System would render it a paper towel,there is no point in experimenting. This is NOT a tough concept.
    Like the God arguement, you cannot prove anything. Whereas we can rely on the numbers—that Gold provided more substantial support than nothing.

  60. globalist_elitist Says:

    Gold caused deflationary panics. There is no speculation involved in that statement.

    Since the revaluation of the gold standard by FDR and the subsequent decpuling of the dollar to gold, there have been no deflationary crises. That is the first triumph of fiat-currency central banking, and it leaves only two obstacles – hyperinflation and stagflation. We’ve yet to encounter the first, nor will we, since the Fed has abandoned its pursuit of full employment at the expense of price stability. And if our only economic crisis is a brief stagflationary recession every 30 years, then that’s a lot better than a deflationary panic/depression once every 10-20.

  61. Trent Hill Says:

    Stagflationary recession every 30 years?
    More like every 3.

    Regardless, I see no info to back these claims up.

  62. Bob Leonard Forthan Says:

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    Note:

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    6304 NE 23rd Avenue
    Portland, Oregon 97211

    Dear Presidential Candidates

    I’m a 2008, Presidential candidate, and I can’t get my word out, I’m under educated, but I read well, I’m poor only because it’s a state of mine, meaning I’m rich depending on who I’m talking to, but I have high hopes, the 2008, presidential political forums have shut out the lesser known candidates, but I would like to prove a point, you don’t have to be rich, or be well educated to be president of the United States of America, and one person can change the world with a few good thoughts, I’m calling this thought, “HOW TO TAME A DESERT’, WATER RECOVERY FOR THE DESERT.

    Most rivers never dry up, so put two pipes in a river, one intake to pull the water out of the river, and one outtake to put the water back into the river, put a few filters to keep the pipes clean, next pump water from the intake pipe to a reservoir that will holed a million gallons of water, cover the million gallon reservoir to control evaporation, next using solar power make something simple, the covered reservoir, put magnifying glasses on the cover and let nature do the rest, now the inside of the reservoir will heat up and the water well condense, then like a old whisky still, have coiled pipes to collect the condensed water, this is good drinking water in the middle of any desert, then build thousands of reservoirs for the new cities, farms, and help global warm.

    Also, for generating electricity used the outtake pipe the water going back to the river, because the water will be cooler due to the magnifying glasses in the intake pipe to help condense the river water for drinking, put generators at different locations, so gravity can keep the reservoir water moving,[ ABOVE GROUND RESERVOIRS WITH PLUMMING AT THE BOTTOM OF RESERVOIR ], with a million gallons of water pressure the generators should run twenty-four a day.

    How the generators work is pretty simple, first the water is siphoned from the main outtake pipe, second the siphoned water goes to a container reservoir using pressure and gravity, third as the water is returning to the main pipe the water turns a generator propeller blade creating electricity for cities, farms in the middle of any desert, and most of the water should return to the river, except for water used for farming.

    In my opinion this is so simple, but our nations best and brightest who want to be Americas next President would not even dream of America trying to tame our deserts, or help solve Africa problems with water and farming.

    I have five environmental reasons for why I want to become the next U.S. president, These reasons are: to make America a cash only transaction country, to build environmentally efficient Dome Homes, stop the invention of insurance, to establish the, “no gun” control and effect a minimum standard of living for all people, also read my thoughts on housing. Dome Homes All Dome Homes will be made of concrete and sand, and between the walls, and inside. The wall will be sand and heating cores. All heating core will be on twenty-four seven and three hundred and sixty five days a year, or never off as you can imagine will the domes be like a cave with no sun to heat them up. Now using wind turbines generators to heat the heating cores, and then the wind is not blowing, plain old electricity will be used as blowers to move the heat from dome home walls to hallway and tenants suites, and if elected I’ll give a tax break to al new constructions that use this ideal in construction. Inside each suite their will be two types of heating, one will be the bicycle type, an exercising bike with a generator that produce heat. The longer a person peddle the warmer their suite will be, second will be an coin machine type, for example, some people will be happy with just heat from the walls cores, and others happy from peddle power, but if both do not heat you enough the you put a quarter in a machine and it will produce heat for about an hour and you repeat till your happy. How To Feed People In Dome Homes-First since there are about two to five thousand tenant suites in each Dome Home and feed the many people will not be easy, but I will try, by building green house domes and growing many crops year around, for example strawberries in December, or cabbage in a Oregon winter. I again will use wind turbines generators to heat and light the green house dome, most of the green houses will only be needed about six months out of the year, and the other six months crops will be grown outside. I’m hoping for total employment from all tenants a few hours a day, also animal care is a second problem feeding this many people year round, as crops I will build a large greenhouse/barns for animal to be eaten year round, I will breed and feed all types of animal for food, pets will not be allow in dome homes, but if a tenants has a pet they can keep it inside green house/barn domes, till their pets dies, all pets are fixed before being house inside greenhouse/barn domes, tenants can have fish, turtles, some snakes for pets. Next water for tenants, I will build million gallons reservoirs with cover to stop evaporation with each dome home built, also pipe lines from rivers will be built to keep the million gallons recoveries full, each dome home will have the ability to collect all rain that falls onto the dome and all dome homes will have their own water treatment plant. Health and Sex and the Dome Home-Sex at the dome homes will be a boom for some at the same time some girls and guys just don’t care how many people touch them, some tenants will have many partners every night and day all the government Can so is keep track of the S.T.D.s, treat people and keep them away from the other tenants. In dome home living well will be able to play cards, shoot pool to pass time. Health care will be limited most illnesses are over before the start, but some illnesses are more severe and those people including myself should be willing to die for the many to help the few. I’m not a doctor a doctor and I feel only doctor should make that call. Their will be day care for people with children, their will be care for the old in good health, and every culture should have old people. Note: If a person home is their castle, then drugs and alcohol should be legal in your own home. I feel that anything smoke-able should be legal, I would like every dome home illegal and legal drugs sold over the counter, so their won’t be any legal problem with a clause for every sell, if this drug will make you too sick you may die!, also no cigarettes sold or smoked at all dome homes.

    I’m a presidential candidate, and I believe in cash only transactions, no debt-credit cards used no checks cashed under two thousand dollars and the checks over two thousand dollars must be in cashers type, and I beleive in stoping the invention of insurances no health, car , house , media cide, emploment, ect. I fill insurances is the reason Americas economy is so out of balance.
    thank you
    Bob Leonard Forthan

    I’m a presidential candidate, and I believe in cash only transactions, no debt-credit cards used no checks cashed under two thousand dollars and the checks over two thousand dollars must be in cashers type, and I beleive in stoping the invention of insurances no health, car , house , media cide, emploment, ect. I fill insurances is the reason Americas economy is so out of balance.
    thank you
    Bob Leonard Forthan

    HOW TO TAME A DESERT’, WATER RECOVERY FOR THE DESERT.
    Most rivers never dry up, so put two pipes in a river, one intake to pull the water out of the river, and one outtake to put the water back into the river, put a few filters to keep the pipes clean, next pump water from the intake pipe to a reservoir that will holed a million gallons of water, cover the million gallon reservoir to control evaporation, next using solar power make something simple, the covered reservoir, put magnifying glasses on the cover and let nature do the rest, now the inside of the reservoir will heat up and the water well condense, then like a old whisky still, have coiled pipes to collect the condensed water, this is good drinking water in the middle of any desert, then build thousands of reservoirs for the new cities, farms, and help global warm.

    Also, for generating electricity used the outtake pipe the water going back to the river, because the water will be cooler due to the magnifying glasses in the intake pipe to help condense the river water for drinking, put generators at different locations, so gravity can keep the reservoir water moving,[ ABOVE GROUND RESERVOIRS WITH PLUMMING AT THE BOTTOM OF RESERVOIR ], with a million gallons of water pressure the generators should run twenty-four a day.

    How the generators work is pretty simple, first the water is siphoned from the main outtake pipe, second the siphoned water goes to a container reservoir using pressure and gravity, third as the water is returning to the main pipe the water turns a generator propeller blade creating electricity for cities, farms in the middle of any desert, and most of the water should return to the river, except for water used for farming.

    In my opinion this is so simple, but our nations best and brightest who want to be Americas next President would not even dream of America trying to tame our deserts, or help solve Africa problems with water and farming.

    Bob Leonard Forthan

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    Less known candidate and say why not have less popular forums some on the East Coast and some on the West coast, here are a few thoughts on how I fell the people of America want, and will make the popular candidate come to ours., can I here some of your thoughts.

    Dome Homes-
    All Dome homes will be made of concrete and sand, between the walls, and inside. The wall will be sand and heating cores. All heating cores will be on twenty-four seven and three hundred and sixty-five days a year, or never off as you can imagine the domes will be like a cave with no sun to heat them up. Now using wind turbines generators to heat the heating cores, and when the wind is not blowing, plain old electricity will be used as the blowers to move the heat from dome home walls to hall way and tenants suites, and if elected I’ll give a tax break to all new constructions, that used this ideal in construction. Inside each suite their will be two types of heating, one will be an bicycle type, an exercising bike with a generator that produce heat. the longer a person peddle the warmer their suite will be, second will be a coin machine type, for example, some people will be happy with just from the wall cores, and other happy from peddle power, but if both do not heat you enough then you put a quarter in a machine and it will produce heat for about an hour and you repeat till your happy.

    How To Feed People in Dome Homes
    First since there are about two to five thousand tenant suites in each Dome Home and feed that many people will not be easy, but I will try, building green house domes and growing many crops year around, for example strawberries in December, or cabbage in a Oregon winter. I again will used wind turbines generators to hear and light the green house dome, most of the green houses will only be needed about six months out of the year,and the other six months crops will be grown outside. I’m hoping for total employment from all the tenants few hours a day, also animal care is a second problem feeding this many people year round, as crops I will breed and feed all types of animal for food, pets will not be allow in dome homes, but if tenants has a pet they can keep it inside the green house/barn domes, till their pet dies, all pets are fixed before being house inside greenhouse/barn domes, tenants can have fish, turtles, some snakes for pets. Next, water for tenants. I will build million gallons reservoirs with cover to stop evaporation with each dome home built, also pipelines froms rivers will built to keep million gallons recoveries full, each dome home will have the ability to collect all rain that fall onto the dome and all dome homes will have their own water treatment plant.

    Health And Sex And The Dome Homes

    Sex at the domes homes will be a boom for some at the same time some girls and guys just don’t care how many people touch them, some tenants will have many partners every night and day all the government can do is keep track of the S.T.D.s, treat people and keep them away from other tenants. In dome home living we will be able to play cards, shoot pool to pass time away. Health care will be limited most illnesses are over before they start, but some illnesses are more severe and those people including myself should be willing to die for the many to help few. I’m not a doctor and I feel only a doctor should make that call. Their will day care with children, their will be care for the old in good health, and every culture should have old people wisdom.

    Note:

    If a person home is their castle, then drugs and alcohol should be legal in your own home. I feel that anything smokable should be legal. I would like every dome home illegal and legal drugs sold over the counter, so their won’t be any legal problem with a clause for every sell, if this drug will make you too sick you may die!, also no cigarettes sold smoked at all domes homes.

    Robert L. Forthan
    6304 NE 23rd Avenue
    Portland, Oregon 97211

    Dear Presidential Candidates

    I’m a 2008, Presidential candidate, and I can’t get my word out, I’m under educated, but I read well, I’m poor only because it’s a state of mine, meaning I’m rich depending on who I’m talking to, but I have high hopes, the 2008, presidential political forums have shut out the lesser known candidates, but I would like to prove a point, you don’t have to be rich, or be well educated to be president of the United States of America, and one person can change the world with a few good thoughts, I’m calling this thought, “HOW TO TAME A DESERT’, WATER RECOVERY FOR THE DESERT.

    Most rivers never dry up, so put two pipes in a river, one intake to pull the water out of the river, and one outtake to put the water back into the river, put a few filters to keep the pipes clean, next pump water from the intake pipe to a reservoir that will holed a million gallons of water, cover the million gallon reservoir to control evaporation, next using solar power make something simple, the covered reservoir, put magnifying glasses on the cover and let nature do the rest, now the inside of the reservoir will heat up and the water well condense, then like a old whisky still, have coiled pipes to collect the condensed water, this is good drinking water in the middle of any desert, then build thousands of reservoirs for the new cities, farms, and help global warm.

    Also, for generating electricity used the outtake pipe the water going back to the river, because the water will be cooler due to the magnifying glasses in the intake pipe to help condense the river water for drinking, put generators at different locations, so gravity can keep the reservoir water moving,[ ABOVE GROUND RESERVOIRS WITH PLUMMING AT THE BOTTOM OF RESERVOIR ], with a million gallons of water pressure the generators should run twenty-four a day.

    How the generators work is pretty simple, first the water is siphoned from the main outtake pipe, second the siphoned water goes to a container reservoir using pressure and gravity, third as the water is returning to the main pipe the water turns a generator propeller blade creating electricity for cities, farms in the middle of any desert, and most of the water should return to the river, except for water used for farming.

    In my opinion this is so simple, but our nations best and brightest who want to be Americas next President would not even dream of America trying to tame our deserts, or help solve Africa problems with water and farming.

    I have five environmental reasons for why I want to become the next U.S. president, These reasons are: to make America a cash only transaction country, to build environmentally efficient Dome Homes, stop the invention of insurance, to establish the, “no gun” control and effect a minimum standard of living for all people, also read my thoughts on housing. Dome Homes All Dome Homes will be made of concrete and sand, and between the walls, and inside. The wall will be sand and heating cores. All heating core will be on twenty-four seven and three hundred and sixty five days a year, or never off as you can imagine will the domes be like a cave with no sun to heat them up. Now using wind turbines generators to heat the heating cores, and then the wind is not blowing, plain old electricity will be used as blowers to move the heat from dome home walls to hallway and tenants suites, and if elected I’ll give a tax break to al new constructions that use this ideal in construction. Inside each suite their will be two types of heating, one will be the bicycle type, an exercising bike with a generator that produce heat. The longer a person peddle the warmer their suite will be, second will be an coin machine type, for example, some people will be happy with just heat from the walls cores, and others happy from peddle power, but if both do not heat you enough the you put a quarter in a machine and it will produce heat for about an hour and you repeat till your happy. How To Feed People In Dome Homes-First since there are about two to five thousand tenant suites in each Dome Home and feed the many people will not be easy, but I will try, by building green house domes and growing many crops year around, for example strawberries in December, or cabbage in a Oregon winter. I again will use wind turbines generators to heat and light the green house dome, most of the green houses will only be needed about six months out of the year, and the other six months crops will be grown outside. I’m hoping for total employment from all tenants a few hours a day, also animal care is a second problem feeding this many people year round, as crops I will build a large greenhouse/barns for animal to be eaten year round, I will breed and feed all types of animal for food, pets will not be allow in dome homes, but if a tenants has a pet they can keep it inside green house/barn domes, till their pets dies, all pets are fixed before being house inside greenhouse/barn domes, tenants can have fish, turtles, some snakes for pets. Next water for tenants, I will build million gallons reservoirs with cover to stop evaporation with each dome home built, also pipe lines from rivers will be built to keep the million gallons recoveries full, each dome home will have the ability to collect all rain that falls onto the dome and all dome homes will have their own water treatment plant. Health and Sex and the Dome Home-Sex at the dome homes will be a boom for some at the same time some girls and guys just don’t care how many people touch them, some tenants will have many partners every night and day all the government Can so is keep track of the S.T.D.s, treat people and keep them away from the other tenants. In dome home living well will be able to play cards, shoot pool to pass time. Health care will be limited most illnesses are over before the start, but some illnesses are more severe and those people including myself should be willing to die for the many to help the few. I’m not a doctor a doctor and I feel only doctor should make that call. Their will be day care for people with children, their will be care for the old in good health, and every culture should have old people. Note: If a person home is their castle, then drugs and alcohol should be legal in your own home. I feel that anything smoke-able should be legal, I would like every dome home illegal and legal drugs sold over the counter, so their won’t be any legal problem with a clause for every sell, if this drug will make you too sick you may die!, also no cigarettes sold or smoked at all dome homes.

    I’m a presidential candidate, and I believe in cash only transactions, no debt-credit cards used no checks cashed under two thousand dollars and the checks over two thousand dollars must be in cashers type, and I beleive in stoping the invention of insurances no health, car , house , media cide, emploment, ect. I fill insurances is the reason Americas economy is so out of balance.
    thank you
    Bob Leonard Forthan

    I’m a presidential candidate, and I believe in cash only transactions, no debt-credit cards used no checks cashed under two thousand dollars and the checks over two thousand dollars must be in cashers type, and I beleive in stoping the invention of insurances no health, car , house , media cide, emploment, ect. I fill insurances is the reason Americas economy is so out of balance.
    thank you
    Bob Leonard Forthan

    HOW TO TAME A DESERT’, WATER RECOVERY FOR THE DESERT.
    Most rivers never dry up, so put two pipes in a river, one intake to pull the water out of the river, and one outtake to put the water back into the river, put a few filters to keep the pipes clean, next pump water from the intake pipe to a reservoir that will holed a million gallons of water, cover the million gallon reservoir to control evaporation, next using solar power make something simple, the covered reservoir, put magnifying glasses on the cover and let nature do the rest, now the inside of the reservoir will heat up and the water well condense, then like a old whisky still, have coiled pipes to collect the condensed water, this is good drinking water in the middle of any desert, then build thousands of reservoirs for the new cities, farms, and help global warm.

    Also, for generating electricity used the outtake pipe the water going back to the river, because the water will be cooler due to the magnifying glasses in the intake pipe to help condense the river water for drinking, put generators at different locations, so gravity can keep the reservoir water moving,[ ABOVE GROUND RESERVOIRS WITH PLUMMING AT THE BOTTOM OF RESERVOIR ], with a million gallons of water pressure the generators should run twenty-four a day.

    How the generators work is pretty simple, first the water is siphoned from the main outtake pipe, second the siphoned water goes to a container reservoir using pressure and gravity, third as the water is returning to the main pipe the water turns a generator propeller blade creating electricity for cities, farms in the middle of any desert, and most of the water should return to the river, except for water used for farming.

    In my opinion this is so simple, but our nations best and brightest who want to be Americas next President would not even dream of America trying to tame our deserts, or help solve Africa problems with water and farming.

    Bob Leonard Forthan

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