Comments on: Article on the American Independent Party and the Minutemen http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/ Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:25:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: Trent Hill http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-160375 Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:36:33 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-160375 Ohk. So dont rally against anti-illegal activists. Rally against the Amnesty-proposals and pro-illegal groups. They're the ones allowing for this gross human rights violation. And yes, it is more immoral. They are hurting our economic situation and alot of them are breaking ALOT of laws. Furthermore, it is unequal to make OTHER people apply for citizenship and pay taxes,when these people DONT have to. Ohk. So dont rally against anti-illegal activists. Rally against the Amnesty-proposals and pro-illegal groups. They’re the ones allowing for this gross human rights violation.
And yes, it is more immoral. They are hurting our economic situation and alot of them are breaking ALOT of laws. Furthermore, it is unequal to make OTHER people apply for citizenship and pay taxes,when these people DONT have to.

]]> by: Cody Quirk http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-160173 Tue, 10 Apr 2007 15:19:29 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-160173 GE, since when do we still have quotas on immigration as of present? GE, since when do we still have quotas on immigration as of present?

]]> by: globalist_elitist http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-159777 Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:07:07 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-159777 I agree, Trent. But there should be NO QUOTAS. Quotas are for Commies. I would like to reduce illegal immigration down to almost zero and I think it could be done by simply abolishing quotas and allowing all peacable workers into the country. No welfare benefits for non-citizens, no admittance for criminals, etc. Then, the bad guys would be easy to spot because they wouldn't be able to hide amongst the thousands of otherwise law-abiding would-be workers who flood the border. I'm all for reducing/ theoretically eliminating illegal immigration, but the laws as they stand are unjust, unrealistic, and anticapitalist. Breaking these laws is no more immoral than breaking segregation laws in the 1950s. I agree, Trent. But there should be NO QUOTAS. Quotas are for Commies. I would like to reduce illegal immigration down to almost zero and I think it could be done by simply abolishing quotas and allowing all peacable workers into the country. No welfare benefits for non-citizens, no admittance for criminals, etc. Then, the bad guys would be easy to spot because they wouldn’t be able to hide amongst the thousands of otherwise law-abiding would-be workers who flood the border.

I’m all for reducing/ theoretically eliminating illegal immigration, but the laws as they stand are unjust, unrealistic, and anticapitalist. Breaking these laws is no more immoral than breaking segregation laws in the 1950s.

]]> by: Trent Hill http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-159590 Mon, 09 Apr 2007 23:03:31 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-159590 RJ, the concern is connecting the AIP in any OFFICIAL way to the Minutemen. Dont get me wrong, we all like the Minutemen, but their scandals aren't ours. RJ, the concern is connecting the AIP in any OFFICIAL way to the Minutemen.
Dont get me wrong, we all like the Minutemen, but their scandals aren’t ours.

]]> by: rj http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-159571 Mon, 09 Apr 2007 21:57:07 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-159571 Ah, I see Gary Odom and his talking about pretty much "entryism into the AIP" and his fears of that. I can see the reasoning behind that concern then. Not wanting someone to do a Lenora Fulani on you. Ah, I see Gary Odom and his talking about pretty much “entryism into the AIP” and his fears of that.

I can see the reasoning behind that concern then. Not wanting someone to do a Lenora Fulani on you.

]]> by: rj http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-159569 Mon, 09 Apr 2007 21:53:46 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-159569 I read the article and I don't see the problem people in this comments section are seeing. As an outsider, can someone tell me? I read the article and I don’t see the problem people in this comments section are seeing. As an outsider, can someone tell me?

]]> by: Cody Quirk http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-159393 Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:51:56 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-159393 Like I said, they don't even realize it. Like I said, they don’t even realize it.

]]> by: Trent Hill http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-158556 Sun, 08 Apr 2007 21:00:31 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-158556 GE, Supporting Illegal Immigration isn't the correct way around that problem then, it would be expanding current immigration quotas. That way, these people don't get taken advantage of crossing the border. They don't pay into Social Security for 15 years and then get screwed. They don't have to work for beneath-minimum-wage and they can be gauranteed the same health standards we, as Americans, enjoy. GE,

Supporting Illegal Immigration isn’t the correct way around that problem then, it would be expanding current immigration quotas. That way, these people don’t get taken advantage of crossing the border. They don’t pay into Social Security for 15 years and then get screwed. They don’t have to work for beneath-minimum-wage and they can be gauranteed the same health standards we, as Americans, enjoy.

]]> by: globalist_elitist http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-158380 Sun, 08 Apr 2007 13:08:19 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-158380 The difference is that slaves risked their lives to flee the plantation, and illegal immigrants risk their lives to come here and do work. Comparing them to slaves is completely off base. Can you imagine Kunta Kinte risking his life to JOIN the plantation? Can you imagine an illegal immigrant risking his in order to return to Mexico? The difference is that slaves risked their lives to flee the plantation, and illegal immigrants risk their lives to come here and do work. Comparing them to slaves is completely off base. Can you imagine Kunta Kinte risking his life to JOIN the plantation? Can you imagine an illegal immigrant risking his in order to return to Mexico?

]]> by: Cody Quirk http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-158171 Sun, 08 Apr 2007 08:23:47 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-158171 GE, if we base our labor on illegal immigration and have illegals doing all the hard, dirty work, then we minus well base our economy on the pre-civil-war era South. Since basically the illegals will be filling the roles of slaves and not even realize it. GE, if we base our labor on illegal immigration and have illegals doing all the hard, dirty work, then we minus well base our economy on the pre-civil-war era South.
Since basically the illegals will be filling the roles of slaves and not even realize it.

]]> by: Cody Quirk http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-158169 Sun, 08 Apr 2007 08:20:54 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-158169 I agree that the AIP shouldn't focus ONLY on illegal immigration, but it should make it the MAIN issue- since it may be divisive, but it has a widespread appeal to the mainstream crowd. I agree that the AIP shouldn’t focus ONLY on illegal immigration, but it should make it the MAIN issue- since it may be divisive, but it has a widespread appeal to the mainstream crowd.

]]> by: Cody Quirk http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-158166 Sun, 08 Apr 2007 08:18:57 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-158166 I would also be turned off if one of the members spoke negatively about religious fanatics, mountain men, and militia members. What is wrong with living in the mountains? =Yet me think, because most of these people are dangerous to society, hold criminal records for assault, attempted murder, etc. And such people only see a Party like the AIP as a vehicle for their own agenda and don't give a damn about building the Party or perticipate in a long-term relationship with it. Just like when Hitler took over the National Socialist German Workers Party (remember the NSGWP started as a socialist oriented Party before Hitler came in.) To appeal only to such people will be like appealing to a small clique of lepers to run a large hospital. I would also be turned off if one of the members spoke negatively about religious fanatics, mountain men, and militia members. What is wrong with living in the mountains?

=Yet me think, because most of these people are dangerous to society, hold criminal records for assault, attempted murder, etc. And such people only see a Party like the AIP as a vehicle for their own agenda and don’t give a damn about building the Party or perticipate in a long-term relationship with it.
Just like when Hitler took over the National Socialist German Workers Party (remember the NSGWP started as a socialist oriented Party before Hitler came in.)

To appeal only to such people will be like appealing to a small clique of lepers to run a large hospital.

]]> by: Cody Quirk http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-158157 Sun, 08 Apr 2007 08:11:46 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-158157 Cody, this is not a matter “between Ed and Nancy.” This demonstrates the glaring difference between the right way and wrong way to conduct party business and present a reponsible public image. =I said I'm personally staying out of this matter, and it seems most of the Party members are too. Cody, this is not a matter “between Ed and Nancy.” This demonstrates the glaring difference between the right way and wrong way to conduct party business and present a reponsible public image.

=I said I’m personally staying out of this matter, and it seems most of the Party members are too.

]]> by: Doctor Paul Wayne Snyder, PhD http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-157769 Sat, 07 Apr 2007 16:25:58 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-157769 Mathew, Let Citizens For A Better Veterans Home[s] know when you can direct some of that 'rightious' anger toward the immoral, illegal, and even lethal treatment 'afforded' to former military and their families on the county, state and national level[s]. News update from Reform Party members in 'Arid Zona' -----the state Veterans Home in Phoenix had a really lousey March 2007 review and the corrupt insular insider heading up the state is gone ---Finally! Now for Indiana [West LaFayette] and Colorado and [worst of all] CALVETS /CDVA in Sacramento, Chula Vista, Napa County and [the worst veterans care campus on the planet!] Barstow! Don Lake, Musetta O'Hara, John Coffey, Tish Firmiss can be reached at 619.420.0209 or 760.253.2371! Mathew,

Let Citizens For A Better Veterans Home[s] know when you can direct some of that ‘rightious’ anger toward the immoral, illegal, and even lethal treatment ‘afforded’ to former military and their families on the county, state and national level[s].

News update from Reform Party members in ‘Arid Zona’——-the state Veterans Home in Phoenix had a really lousey March 2007 review and the corrupt insular insider heading up the state is gone—-Finally! Now for Indiana [West LaFayette] and Colorado and [worst of all] CALVETS /CDVA in Sacramento, Chula Vista, Napa County and [the worst veterans care campus on the planet!] Barstow!

Don Lake, Musetta O’Hara, John Coffey, Tish Firmiss can be reached at 619.420.0209 or 760.253.2371!

]]> by: globalist_elitist http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-157613 Sat, 07 Apr 2007 12:39:33 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/06/article-on-the-american-independent-party-and-the-minutemen/#comment-157613 Whoops.. I posted from my laptop under my FKA. Whoops.. I posted from my laptop under my FKA.

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