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		<title>by: Dwain Mejia</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/16/presidential-candidates-hargis-and-adams-form-independents-together/#comment-575176</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: globalist_elitist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/16/presidential-candidates-hargis-and-adams-form-independents-together/#comment-165045</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Adams - You are a true idiot. The Democratic Party supported Lieberman until he lost the primary. At that point, who were they supposed to support? The inside Washington man, or the choice of the voters? You seem to think they should have supported the former. I guess you're just an inside-the-beltway eltitist too. No, you're just an idiot who doesn't know your ass from that hole in your face under your nose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Adams &#8211; You are a true idiot. The Democratic Party supported Lieberman until he lost the primary. At that point, who were they supposed to support? The inside Washington man, or the choice of the voters? You seem to think they should have supported the former. I guess you&#8217;re just an inside-the-beltway eltitist too. No, you&#8217;re just an idiot who doesn&#8217;t know your ass from that hole in your face under your nose.</p>
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		<title>by: Steve Adams</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/16/presidential-candidates-hargis-and-adams-form-independents-together/#comment-165015</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Trent,

Sen. Lieberman is an example of your party abandoning you when you don't toe 100% of their line.  Look at Lieberman's record and you will see a staunch Democrat before they abandoned him.  

Steve
PresidentAdams.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Trent,</p>
	<p>Sen. Lieberman is an example of your party abandoning you when you don&#8217;t toe 100% of their line.  Look at Lieberman&#8217;s record and you will see a staunch Democrat before they abandoned him.</p>
	<p>Steve<br />
PresidentAdams.com</p>
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		<title>by: globalist_elitist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/16/presidential-candidates-hargis-and-adams-form-independents-together/#comment-165001</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Don't bother trying to reason with President Cho. He's not of thise world. His mind occupies the realm of Gene Chapman, Archangel Michael Jesus, Randy Crow, and Jonathan Starkey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Don&#8217;t bother trying to reason with President Cho. He&#8217;s not of thise world. His mind occupies the realm of Gene Chapman, Archangel Michael Jesus, Randy Crow, and Jonathan Starkey.</p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/16/presidential-candidates-hargis-and-adams-form-independents-together/#comment-164998</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>....how is Joe Liberman an example?

His party screwed him, so he took the seat for himself, registering as an Independent Democrat, and is often scaring them by threatening to uncaucus, or even caucus across the aisle.

Adams...im telling you now--You won't get enough Ballot-access to win the electoral college. The Green Party has trouble doing that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>....how is Joe Liberman an example?</p>
	<p>His party screwed him, so he took the seat for himself, registering as an Independent Democrat, and is often scaring them by threatening to uncaucus, or even caucus across the aisle.</p>
	<p>Adams&#8230;im telling you now&#8212;You won&#8217;t get enough Ballot-access to win the electoral college. The Green Party has trouble doing that.</p>
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		<title>by: globalist_elitist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/16/presidential-candidates-hargis-and-adams-form-independents-together/#comment-164810</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;I have a goal to win enough electoral votes to win the election.&quot;

Okay, now we know that the guy is insane. Don't be suprised if he shoots up a college campus, or if we find human body parts in his fridge, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;I have a goal to win enough electoral votes to win the election.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Okay, now we know that the guy is insane. Don&#8217;t be suprised if he shoots up a college campus, or if we find human body parts in his fridge, etc.</p>
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		<title>by: Steve Adams</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/16/presidential-candidates-hargis-and-adams-form-independents-together/#comment-164791</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Trent,

Politicians of a party must toe the party line or lose support on key issues, important subcommittee positions, party funding for reelection, and party endorsements.  Recent example is Joe Lieberman.  

I'm not trying to be evasive here.  I have a goal to win enough electoral votes to win the election.  I am not in this to educate the public, to make a name for myself, or to be a spoiler.  Whether the states come by ballot access or write-in, I have no way of knowing at this point.  

Steve
PresidentAdams.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Trent,</p>
	<p>Politicians of a party must toe the party line or lose support on key issues, important subcommittee positions, party funding for reelection, and party endorsements.  Recent example is Joe Lieberman.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m not trying to be evasive here.  I have a goal to win enough electoral votes to win the election.  I am not in this to educate the public, to make a name for myself, or to be a spoiler.  Whether the states come by ballot access or write-in, I have no way of knowing at this point.</p>
	<p>Steve<br />
PresidentAdams.com</p>
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		<title>by: Bob W. Hargis</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/16/presidential-candidates-hargis-and-adams-form-independents-together/#comment-164682</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 02:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>No offense was taken whatsoever.</description>
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		<title>by: globalist_elitist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/16/presidential-candidates-hargis-and-adams-form-independents-together/#comment-164661</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 02:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Answer: Not enough to be elected, that's for sure. Then again, these delusionals probably think that they can throw the election to the House, whereby they will be elected as Congress experiences a miraculous epiphany.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Answer: Not enough to be elected, that&#8217;s for sure. Then again, these delusionals probably think that they can throw the election to the House, whereby they will be elected as Congress experiences a miraculous epiphany.</p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/16/presidential-candidates-hargis-and-adams-form-independents-together/#comment-164635</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 01:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>How is a party less likely to represent the views of the voter? 

And I didn't ask you to forsee the future Adams, I asked you how many states you THOUGHT you would get ballot-access in? What is your realistic goal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>How is a party less likely to represent the views of the voter?</p>
	<p>And I didn&#8217;t ask you to forsee the future Adams, I asked you how many states you <span class="caps">THOUGHT</span> you would get ballot-access in? What is your realistic goal?</p>
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		<title>by: Steve Adams</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/16/presidential-candidates-hargis-and-adams-form-independents-together/#comment-164620</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Trent, no crystal ball here.  Like I said, every one I can.  It will depend on the number of people who catch the vision for what I'm trying to do.

No arrogance intended.  You missed the &quot;no party association, representing the people directly&quot; which any party, by definition, cannot promise.  

I do not doubt there are good people in the two major parties or in some third parties, but for job security, their party will come before the rest of us.

Steve
PresidentAdams.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Trent, no crystal ball here.  Like I said, every one I can.  It will depend on the number of people who catch the vision for what I&#8217;m trying to do.</p>
	<p>No arrogance intended.  You missed the &#8220;no party association, representing the people directly&#8221; which any party, by definition, cannot promise.</p>
	<p>I do not doubt there are good people in the two major parties or in some third parties, but for job security, their party will come before the rest of us.</p>
	<p>Steve<br />
PresidentAdams.com</p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/16/presidential-candidates-hargis-and-adams-form-independents-together/#comment-164541</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Adams,Hargis---

and how many states do you expect to be on the ballot on?
The Reform Party is on 5. Im doubting you can surpass them.

Oh,and as for the &quot;no party offers that&quot;. Don't be so arrogant. &quot;A balanced budget, limited federal government, and smart taxation&quot;
Sounds like either the CP or the LP to me.
No(or very little) taxation is smart taxation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Adams,Hargis&#8212;-</p>
	<p>and how many states do you expect to be on the ballot on?<br />
The Reform Party is on 5. Im doubting you can surpass them.</p>
	<p>Oh,and as for the &#8220;no party offers that&#8221;. Don&#8217;t be so arrogant. &#8220;A balanced budget, limited federal government, and smart taxation&#8221;<br />
Sounds like either the CP or the LP to me.<br />
No(or very little) taxation is smart taxation.</p>
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		<title>by: Steve Adams</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/16/presidential-candidates-hargis-and-adams-form-independents-together/#comment-164470</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Trent, yes, in every state possible.  Some states require only money, others signatures.  Every state is different.  And yes, I realize this is a large hurdle.  

GE, third parties have party lines just like the big two.  I’ve talked to several and they have their platforms that must be toed.  And I get requests for money from several as well.  They are not immune from the corruption of money and power.  My views may fall among several labels, but my allegiance does not.

I offer no party association, representing the people directly; a balanced budget, limited federal government, and smart taxation.  No party offers that.  

I know abolishing the electoral college would take a Constitutional amendment.  If you read my prologue to the issues, I plainly state that my views are to tell you who I am, not that every issue is under the control of the president.  Theocracy?  Never.  I’m not sure who’s site you were reading there.  

Steve
PresidentAdams.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Trent, yes, in every state possible.  Some states require only money, others signatures.  Every state is different.  And yes, I realize this is a large hurdle.</p>
	<p>GE, third parties have party lines just like the big two.  I&#8217;ve talked to several and they have their platforms that must be toed.  And I get requests for money from several as well.  They are not immune from the corruption of money and power.  My views may fall among several labels, but my allegiance does not.</p>
	<p>I offer no party association, representing the people directly; a balanced budget, limited federal government, and smart taxation.  No party offers that.</p>
	<p>I know abolishing the electoral college would take a Constitutional amendment.  If you read my prologue to the issues, I plainly state that my views are to tell you who I am, not that every issue is under the control of the president.  Theocracy?  Never.  I&#8217;m not sure who&#8217;s site you were reading there.</p>
	<p>Steve<br />
PresidentAdams.com</p>
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		<title>by: globalist_elitist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/16/presidential-candidates-hargis-and-adams-form-independents-together/#comment-164453</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Now on to Hargis. He says, &quot;Americans deserve to be treated as any corporation would treat it’s investors, and deserve the right to be informed about government spending.&quot;

So Americans deserve to be treated as any corporation? That doesn't make sense. Oh. I see. &quot;Americans deserve to be treated as any corporation would treat it is investors.&quot; The sentence still makes no sense. I know what you mean, but you should get a semi-literate chimp to help you with your web site.

Secondly, you clearly don't know how corporations treat their investors. All data supplied to investors is supplied to everyone. You can't find out exactly how much a corporation is spending on what. Financial transparency of the government is greater than that of a corporation. So your entire point is baseless. Go to Yahoo! Finance. That's all you can get. The government supplies a lot more data than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Now on to Hargis. He says, &#8220;Americans deserve to be treated as any corporation would treat it&#8217;s investors, and deserve the right to be informed about government spending.&#8221;</p>
	<p>So Americans deserve to be treated as any corporation? That doesn&#8217;t make sense. Oh. I see. &#8220;Americans deserve to be treated as any corporation would treat it is investors.&#8221; The sentence still makes no sense. I know what you mean, but you should get a semi-literate chimp to help you with your web site.</p>
	<p>Secondly, you clearly don&#8217;t know how corporations treat their investors. All data supplied to investors is supplied to everyone. You can&#8217;t find out exactly how much a corporation is spending on what. Financial transparency of the government is greater than that of a corporation. So your entire point is baseless. Go to Yahoo! Finance. That&#8217;s all you can get. The government supplies a lot more data than that.</p>
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		<title>by: globalist_elitist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/16/presidential-candidates-hargis-and-adams-form-independents-together/#comment-164449</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;President&quot; Adams - Party power brokers? Party financiers? Apparently you're not that familiar with third parites. There aren't any of either. Party line? Your ideas already fit nicely within the moderate-Republican/ conservative-Democrat &quot;party line.&quot; What exactly are people supposed to get excited about? What new ideas, new perspectives, etc. are you bringing to the public debate? I've examined your web site and all I see is tired, lame, and discredited &quot;ideas,&quot; or else things that major-party candidates already stand for.

Furthermore, you don't seem to even understand how government works. You have presidential platform planks like &quot;eliminate the electoral college.&quot; This is not something even remotely within the scope of the presidency; even an imperial presidency like that of George W. Bush. Elmininating the EC would require a constitutional amendment that would never pass, and do you know what the president's role in that procedure is? Nothing.

In addition, your &quot;platform&quot; calls for two more constitutional amendments. One to promote theocracy and another designed to control and kill the economy. Are you &quot;running&quot; for president or dictator? In the case of the former, you have no role in the amendment process, and in the case of hte latter, the amendmens are uncessary. &quot;America is in crisis&quot; - thank God we have President Adams to save us! On the bright side, you wouldn't have to work too hard to be the best President Adams we've ever had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;President&#8221; Adams &#8211; Party power brokers? Party financiers? Apparently you&#8217;re not that familiar with third parites. There aren&#8217;t any of either. Party line? Your ideas already fit nicely within the moderate-Republican/ conservative-Democrat &#8220;party line.&#8221; What exactly are people supposed to get excited about? What new ideas, new perspectives, etc. are you bringing to the public debate? I&#8217;ve examined your web site and all I see is tired, lame, and discredited &#8220;ideas,&#8221; or else things that major-party candidates already stand for.</p>
	<p>Furthermore, you don&#8217;t seem to even understand how government works. You have presidential platform planks like &#8220;eliminate the electoral college.&#8221; This is not something even remotely within the scope of the presidency; even an imperial presidency like that of George W. Bush. Elmininating the EC would require a constitutional amendment that would never pass, and do you know what the president&#8217;s role in that procedure is? Nothing.</p>
	<p>In addition, your &#8220;platform&#8221; calls for two more constitutional amendments. One to promote theocracy and another designed to control and kill the economy. Are you &#8220;running&#8221; for president or dictator? In the case of the former, you have no role in the amendment process, and in the case of hte latter, the amendmens are uncessary. &#8220;America is in crisis&#8221; &#8211; thank God we have President Adams to save us! On the bright side, you wouldn&#8217;t have to work too hard to be the best President Adams we&#8217;ve ever had.</p>
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