Boise Part 2: Both ‘Big Box’ Parties Condemned

Besides some good speeches given by Chuck Baldwin, Stephen Pratt, Don Grundmann, William Grigg, and Howard Phillips- including a very good speech by Minuteman Corps founder Chris Simcox, who had to stop at least 22 times from the loud applause. The Constitution Party passed 3 resolutions dealing with the Virginia Tech massacure, the Real ID Act, and the imprisonment of Border Patrol Agents Jose Compean and Ignacio Ramos. The meeting was also attended by two Idaho GOP State Representatives Steven Thayn and John Vander Woude.

The Constitution Party (www.constitutionparty.com) the country’s third largest political party based on voter registrations(www.ballot-access.org) adopted a number of resolutions at its Boise, Idaho National Committee Meeting (April 21-22) . Issues addressed include the recent murders at Virginia Tech, the imprisoned United States Border Patrol agents and the growing revolt against the Real ID Act.

The first resolution adopted unanimously by party members concerns the recent murder of 32 people at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University (Virginia Tech).While expressing its condolences to the family and friends of those killed in the brutal attack, the Constitution Party called on the Virginia legislature to acknowledge that “the right to bear arms is inherent in the right to self-defense and strongly recommends the recall and passage of a bill (Virginia HB 1572) that safeguards the right of students and faculty to carry firearms on campus”.

Virginia Tech vice president Larry Hincker wrote an eerily prescient editorial titled “Imagine if Students Were Armed” just seven months before the deadly shootings on his campus. Hincker refused to acknowledge past incidents that made the law-abiding students easy targets turning classrooms into gruesome shooting galleries. Hincker wrote: “Guns don’t belong in classrooms. They never will. Virginia Tech has a very sound policy preventing same.” Quoted in the same paper, Hincker said when the Virginia legislature shot down the life-saving pro-self-defense bill: “I’m sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly’s actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus.”

Constitution Party National Committee Chairman Jim Clymer asked: “Does Virginia Tech’s vice president sleep with a clear conscience knowing he cheered the death of a bill that would have permitted students and faculty members to defend themselves and stop a madman before he took 32 lives?”

“It’s no coincidence that the ‘gun-free zones’ we’ve made schools and college campuses are so often the scenes of bloody massacres… There’s a reason why such crimes don’t occur at police stations, military bases or other locations where people are carrying guns. The bumper sticker adage that ‘when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns’ has been tragically proven true,” Clymer added.

The Constitution Party also adopted a resolution calling for the immediate pardon of imprisoned Border Patrol agents Jose Compean and Ignacio Ramos, who have been imprisoned since January 18, 2007, prosecuted for actions in the course of performing their duties in seeking to arrest an illegal Mexican drug smuggler. “This is insane; two Americans with distinguished military and Border Patrol service together face more than 20 years in prison. Their families have lost their homes because of legal expenses, they’ve been threatened by members of a drug cartel and Ramos has been viciously attacked by other prisoners while wardens look the other way” said Constitution Party National Veterans Coalition Brigadier General Charles Jones (USAF, Retired).

“All the while, Mexican drug smuggler, Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila is free, has been given free medical care and is being allowed by US officials to sue the U.S. Border Patrol for $5 million for violating his “civil rights”“ Jones added.

The Constitution Party also passed a resolution calling for the repeal of the Real ID Act of 2005 stating “…the national ID card (REAL ID) is repressive, invasive, and unconstitutionally violates the Fourth Amendment right of the people to be secure.”

The Constitution Party joins in supporting the efforts of 30 states which, to date, have passed or are considering legislation condemning the federal license standards. Montana, home of Constitution Party House Representative Rick Jore, just days ago became the very first state with signed legislation enacting a law which flat-out rejects the state’s cooperation with any federally- imposed licensing scheme. Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer said: “I don’t think bureaucrats in Washington, D.C. ought to tell us that if we’re going to get on a plane we have to carry their card, so when it’s scanned… they know where you went, when you got there and when you came back”.
Schweitzer summed up his determination to keep the federal government from forcing a national ID on his state saying simply: “No, nope, no way, hell, no.”

Montana joined Idaho, Washington and Arkansas in enacting laws that refuse to comply with the federal law.

Through its new resolutions, the Constitution Party commends liberty-minded legislators and condemns the power brokers in both the Republican and Democratic parties for attempting to usurp the constitutionally-guaranteed rights of Americans.

Thanks to Trent Hill for the meeting reports.

37 Responses to “Boise Part 2: Both ‘Big Box’ Parties Condemned”

  1. Richard Winger Says:

    Did Rick Jore say anything about the Montana Constitution Party re-affiliating with the national party????

  2. Cody Quirk Says:

    I have another version of the Boise meeting from my Party’s State Chairman- Ed Noonan.
    ———————————
    AMERICAN INDEPENDENT PARTY
    STATE PARTY CHAIRMAN’S REPORT
    ON THE BOISE, ID CONSTITUTION PARTY
    NATIONAL COMMITTEE MEETING

    We just returned from the Boise meeting. It fired many of us up with a new resolve to get busy and get the 2008 campaign underway.

    The 2008 Presidential election took up a major portion of the meeting. On the first day, Brig. General Charles Jones gave his report on the CONSTITUTION PARTY NATIONAL VETERANS COALITION progress and goals. The highlight of the report was the announcement that the Coalition had drafted Dr. Jerome Corsi as a candidate for the Presidency of the United States. The General announced that Dr. Corsi had joined the Constitution Party by registering as a CP voter in his home state of New Jersey and was 100% behind the Party on every plank of the platform. The General also pointed out that Mr. Corsi is the candidate that has the most nationwide name recognition. His book called UNFIT FOR COMMAND that mostly destroyed John Kerry’s chance for office, and his research on the NORTH AMERICA UNION and his involvement with the Minutemen Project (co-authored a book with Jim Gilchrist) would make him a top notch candidate.

    Personally I did not feel any excitement come as a response from the General’s announcement. It was almost received in a mediocre HO-HUM manner. It is my opinion that the masses of the CP are so engrossed in the belief that the Republican candidates, Ron Paul and Tom Tancredo are the persons that will advance the CP ideals the best, therefore no other independent candidate can be considered. It is my strong opinion that a vote/preference for ANY REPUBLICAN candidate is disloyal to the CP platform and the concepts that it purports. That is just my opinion!

    The Saturday meeting showed a slightly better loyalty to Constitution Party members. Both Chuck Baldwin and Don Grundmann were given acknowledgment as being candidates for President and both addressed our assembly. Mr. Baldwin stated that his church was growing and they have a new huge church building, so he would run for president only IF THE CONSTITUTION PARTY asked him too. Don Grundmann, however, in his address stated in no uncertain terms that he was throwing in his hat to the ring.

    One final candidate was announced by flyer (he was not present at the meeting). He was Max Riekse. Mr Riekse hails from Kentucky. So as of this date, four candidates have taken the lead to be the CONSTITUTION PARTY candidates. These include:

    Dr. Jerome Corsi
    Chuck Baldwin
    Don Grundmann
    Max Riekse

    In addition to the topic of Constitution Party candidates for President, four resolutions were passed at the Meeting. One related to the recent murders at Virginia Tech. The resolution called on the Virginia Legislature to recall and pass the 2006 House Bill 1572 that was defeated in committee assuring the right of students and faculty to carry firearms on campus.

    The second resolution called for the pardon of the unjustly imprisoned Border Agents Compean and Ramos.

    The third resolution called for the repeal of the Real ID Act.

    And the last resolution that was passed was to call for ENGLISH AS OUR OFFICIAL LANGUAGE.

    We were treated to the awesome speaking ability of Stephen Pratt of Utah. He gave a patriotic talk entitled: THE CRITICAL NEED FOR EDUCATION TO RESTORE LIBERTY.

    We also were treated to the remarks of William Norman Grigg who spoke on THE PRICE OF LIBERTY.

    The Boise Meeting closed at 3:00 on April 21, 2007. It was a meeting that made us feel like we had been soaring with eagles. It was a let down having to return home to the local cesspools in our native states.

    Just a postscript here… I returned home via I-80. The storm was getting bad at Donner Summit so my wife and I decided to find lodging in Reno at 11:00 at night. There was a casino that had a billboard saying their rates for rooms were CHEAP, so we stayed at that motel. While there, I noticed two busloads of illegal immigrants getting offloaded at the casino. None of them could speak a word of English. The bus had markings from SAN JOSE.

    What I learned was that the casino would bus in the illegals and would put them to work at cheap labor prices as domestic help, restaurant workers, gardeners, and all manner of workers. This is how the casinos get their HELP. And too, Reno, like all other California cities are completely turning to the illegal help for jobs at Wal-Mart, MacDonalds, Taco Bell, and 99% of all other fast food restaurants. THEY ARE BEING BUSSED IN MASSIVE NUMBERS by corporations. ...

    I thought it was sickening to see the corruption of the corporations. And everyone turns a blind-eye. Now do you wonder why I call it a CESSPOOL here?

    Edward C. Noonan
    State Party Chairman – American Independent Party

  3. Cody Quirk Says:

    No I don’t think he said anything. But it is a future possiblity I bet.

  4. Trent Hill Says:

    Max Riekse?
    WHO THE HECK IS THAT? Iv never even heard his name…

    As for Rick Jore, he wasn’t there. But relations to the Oregon/Montana parties were discussed alot.

  5. Michael Says:

    1) Any idea when they will make the final selection on a 2008 National Convention City? 2) Two busloads of illegal workers? I am shocked, however I am not surprised. We have 12 million illegals in the United States. We could deport two million for them today. All we have to do is have the will power to enforce the immigration laws that are already on the books.

  6. Jason C. Says:

    I think it’s but just a matter of time before CP of Montana repositions herself back in alignment with the rest of the fold. I’m sure Mr. Jore has many other issues he deals with on a daily besides that one. However, I do hope their is active lobbying to bring this about. We need to be completely united for 08.

    As for Oregon, I’m still kind of surprised this hasn’t happene yet. Mrs. Starrett is a very vocal and identifiable person in the upper echelon of the CP ranks. I assumed by now that she could garner the needed support from Oregon for reconciliation. I’m sure the efforts are ongoing, I just hope we get these two very active and very influential State parties back with the rest to provided much needed leadership and examples for the rest of us.

    -Jason CPoL

  7. Joey Dauben Says:

    Was there any discussion regarding Texas CP chairman Bryan Malatesta’s entry into the presidential contest?

  8. Kn@ppster Says:

    Even given the CP’s anti-American Know-Nothing stance on immigration,it boggles the mind that they would publicly posture themselves in support of two murderous thugs who

    1) Declined to accept their victim’s surrender;

    2) Tried to rough him up instead;

    3) Shot at him 14 times at him when he ran from the beating even though he was headed OUT of the United States and represented no clear and present danger to themselves or anyone else;

    4) Shot him in the ass once he stopped and tried to surrender AGAIN, then

    5) Left their wounded victim bleeding on the ground while they went to work on trying to conceal their crimes.

    Compean and Ramos are evil turds who deserve far more time in prison than they will likely serve.

    Well, at least we know the CP is honest—that resolution is too stump-stupid for anyone support it insincerely under the misimpression that it would be politically useful.

  9. Trent Hill Says:

    Joey,

    I spoke with Bryan Malatesta for 2 hours straight at a dinner. He never made it clear to me (or anyone else) that he was running. And although I was VERY impressed with his abilities, I think he should stay out of the race. He would be another Don Grundman, very intelligent-with good ideas to contribute-but no name recognition, no support within the party, and no money to fund a real campaign.
    And I say that as a friend, I even want Bryan to come speak at the LA CP’s next meeting—but I just don’t think it is a good move. His predominant role should be this:
    BALLOT ACCESS FOR TEXAS!

    Stupid for anyone to support it sincerely? Um, amongst the supporters of a Compean/Ramos pardon are Ron Paul, Dana Rohrabacher, and lawmakers in 34 states have supported this pardon.
    As for your information on the events, they are incorrect. I don’t know where you read that he tried to surrender, or give up, or that they tried to “rough him up”.

  10. Trent Hill Says:

    The Convention city will be Phoenix or maybe Kansas City. That is tentative.

    And Rick Jore wasn’t there, but there was LOTS of discussion (most informally) about Oregon and Montana. We honestly have no idea how they feel about National (except that they are willing to work with us, obiously. See: Rick Jore and Mary Starrett) but National VERY obviously wants to fix things.

  11. Chris Campbell Says:

    I hate I could not go, unfortunately most NC citizens asre asleep at the wheel or in awe of the Lincoln loving GOP/Rush Limbaugh. Hence, no contributions. I would have to go on my own nickel and as a working stiff increasingly middle class-going-poor, could not afford to go.

    Had a good time in Tampa, all things considered and look forward to next years nominating session.

  12. Chris Campbell Says:

    Kn@ppster Says:

    April 25th, 2007 at 8:15 pm
    Even given the CP’s anti-American Know-Nothing stance on immigration,it boggles the mind that they would publicly posture themselves in support of two murderous thugs who

    um, ok…following the law on the books and the natural right of nations to control their borders is…??..evil or something.

    As far as Know Nothings, guess the Catholics, jews and Mormons in the Party missed that one! Whew, thank goodness for Kn@ppster!!

  13. Chris Campbell Says:

    “Compean and Ramos are evil turds who deserve far more time in prison than they will likely serve.”

    Sorry, but the facts..cumbersome as they are to the bleeding hearts (and heads)..are that they made some procedural mistakes, but were trying to do their jobs.

    As a fromer law enforcement officer, with good common sense and good record, I find Kn@ppster’s comments stupid and appalling.

    Let him get his ass through 26 weeks of LEO training, patrol the streets at night with the real thugs, many that are illegals.

    Then again, he would be far to cowardly to do that job. Be comfy tucked into your bed

  14. Kn@ppster Says:

    Trent,

    You write:

    “As for your information on the events, they are incorrect. I don’t know where you read that he tried to surrender, or give up, or that they tried to ‘rough him up.’”

    Among other places, here:

    The preponderance of the evidence established that Aldrete-Davila was unarmed. Besides Compean and Ramos, there were several other agents on the scene. None of them believed Aldrete-Davila posed a threat to their safety; none, other than the two defendants drew their weapons; and Compean and Ramos neither took cover nor alerted their fellow agents to do so.

    More to the point, Compean admitted to investigators early on that the smuggler had raised his hands, palms open, in an attempt to surrender. This jibed not only with Aldrete-Davila’s account but with that of another Border Patrol agent. Compean opted not to take surrender, not to place the smuggler under arrest so he could be prosecuted.

    On that score, for those over-heatedly analogizing the border to a battlefield, it is worth noting that even under the law of war, quarter must be given when it is sought. Compean, to the contrary, tried to strike Aldrete-Davila with the butt of his shotgun. But it turns out the agent was as hapless as he was malevolent. In the assault, he succeeded only in losing his own balance. The smuggler, naturally, took off again, whereupon Compean unleashed an incompetent fuselage — missing Aldrete-Davila with all fourteen shots.

    It was only after the surrender attempt that Ramos opened fire as the unarmed smuggler neared the border.

    ...

    Once Aldrete-Davila was down from Ramos’s shot to the backside, they decided, for a second time, not to grab him so he could face justice for his crimes. As they well knew, an arrest at that point — after 15 shots at a fleeing, unarmed man who had tried to surrender — would have shone a spotlight on their performance. So instead, they exacerbated the already shameful display.

    Instead of arresting the wounded smuggler, they put their guns away and left him behind. But not before trying to conceal the improper discharge of their firearms. Compean picked up and hid his shell-casings rather than leaving the scene intact for investigators. Both agents filed false reports, failing to record the firing of their weapons though they were well aware of regulations requiring that they do so. Because the “heroes” put covering their tracks ahead of doing their duty, Aldrete-Davila was eventually able to limp off to a waiting car and escape into Mexico.

    Quoth Chris Campbell:

    “Let [Kn@ppster] get his ass through 26 weeks of LEO training, patrol the streets at night with the real thugs, many that are illegals.”

    You are correct in assuming that I am not a law enforcement officer. I have, however, been through far more than 26 weeks of training that’s at least as vigorous as standard LEO training (Marine Corps boot camp at MCRD San Diego in 1985, Marine Corps Infantry Training School at MCB Camp Pendleton in 1986, Marksmanship Instructors’ Course at MCB Quantico in 1992, etc.), and have patrolled drug trafficking areas in cooperative ops with law enforcement (on detached duty with Joint Task Force Six, Special Operations Command) ... and if I had ever pulled the stupid and evil bullshit that Compean and Ramos pulled while I was doing those patrols, I’d still be buried under the jail, and I’d belong there.

  15. undercover_anarchist Says:

    Knapp – How can you be surprised? The CP is a group of Amish anti-American thugs. Let them move to South Carolina, succeed, and assfuck one another into extinction.

  16. Trent Hill Says:

    Knapp,

    There are MANY different accounts of what happened there. Basically this comes down to a he-said, she-said.

  17. Winston Smith Says:

    WHY JEROME CORSI SHOULD NOT EVEN BE CONSIDERED FOR ANY CP NOMINATION OR OFFICE (ie, he is more GOP then CP):

    On Catholics and the Pope
    CORSI: Maybe while he’s there he can tell the UN what he’s going to do about the sexual crimes committed by “priests” in his “Church” during his tenure. Or, maybe that’s the connection—boy buggering in both Islam and Catholicism is okay with the Pope as long as it isn’t reported by the liberal press. (03/03/2003)
    CORSI: So this is what the last days of the Catholic Church are going to look like. Buggering boys undermines the moral base and the laywers rip the gold off the Vatican altars. We may get one more Pope, when this senile one dies, but that’s probably about it. (12/16/2002)
    On Islam and Arabs
    CORSI: Let’s see exactly why it isn’t the case that Islam is a worthless, dangerous Satanic religion? Where’s the proof to the contrary? (04/24/2004)
    CORSI: Islam is like a virus—it affects the mind—maybe even better as an analogy—it is a cancer that destroys the body it infects… No doctor would hesitate to eliminate cancer cells from the body. (11/26/02)
    CORSI: Islam is a peaceful religion as long as the women are beaten, the boys buggered, and the infidels killed. (11/22/2002)
    CORSI: How’s this as an analogy—the Koran is simply the “software” for producing deviant cancer cell political behavior and violence in human beings. (02/15/2002)
    CORSI: Think the liberal press will ever let out that these 2 were lovers—typical Islamic boy-buggering—older man, younger man—black Muslims? I doubt it. Not a pretty picture, but one certain to be hidden by PC media. (11/08/2002)
    CORSI: Isn’t the Democratic Party the official SODOMIZER PROTECTION ASSOCIATION of AMERICA —oh, I forgot, it was just an accident that Clintoon’s first act in office was to promote “gays in the military.” RAGHEADS are Boy-Bumpers as clearly as they are Women-Haters—it all goes together. (11/18/2001)

  18. Chris Campbell Says:

    Let me go on record then-I will vote “no” to this neocon war lover and religious bigot. Let him put quotes around whatever he wishes, not in CP.

  19. John Chance Says:

    Mr. Campbell,
    I went to the links on
    http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010
    to see if he really did make these comments, apparently he did. Please do not let this idiot play any role in the CP. IF he does, I promise you I will make sure Catholics avoid the CP like a plague.

  20. John Chance Says:

    “and if I had ever pulled the stupid and evil bullshit that Compean and Ramos pulled while I was doing those patrols, I’d still be buried under the jail, and I’d belong there.”

    You mean like:
    -taking an oath to the Constitution and then promptly violating it by engaging in undeclared, unconstitutional wars?
    -operating Abu Gharib?
    -violating ones oath to God

    You really should read more, esp when many troops in Iraq and elstware actually get excited to go out and get chance to kill. maybe not you, but far to many.

    Than there are the 25% or so that said-excitedly-they would fire on US civilians, confiscate guns and do whatever they are ordered. Maybe these INS agents/border Patrol ahve been through military training. They then could get off of charges on the Insanity plea-brainwashing might suffice.

  21. Trent Hill Says:

    Corsi is a catholic…all the “anti-catholic” statements are basically sentiment against his own organization. It would be like me critisizing the CP leadership..doesn’t mean im anti-CP.

    You also have to remember he made all of those comments a number of years aho. This

  22. Trent Hill Says:

    Corsi is a catholic…all the “anti-catholic” statements are basically sentiment against his own organization. It would be like me critisizing the CP leadership..doesn’t mean im anti-CP.

    You also have to remember he made all of those comments a number of years ago.
    They are also isolated statements, out of context. Also, Media Matters is like the SPLC in that there “reports” often have a liberal slant.

  23. Trent Hill Says:

    For the record: I would not support Corsi unless he coud give some VEEEEERY good excuses for all this. I’m just saying: as we all know, things are not always as they appear.

  24. Chris Fluharty Says:

    National will be at KC because everybody loves Missouri. LOL Plus what better place then the spot that has the NAFTA port and all sorts of foreign soil. Yeah!! kC is central Phoenix is way to far. For those East of the River. SO lets hear it for KC.

    I would not vote nor support Corsi. We must keep the focus on winnable races and local recruitment.

  25. Trent Hill Says:

    Chris,

    I was actually pushing people to ask for Kansas City at the Boise meeting, it is both more central, and more of a hot-spot because of the NAU thing.

  26. Jason Says:

    Well I will say this: I agree whole heartedly with his opinion on Islam. For those who will faint after they read this, I say to you, when you wake up, go check out a book on the Koran and Islam and what they teach: Jihad, Spoils of War, Spread by the Sword ect. There are plenty of converted Arabs and moderate Muslims who speak out against Islam, and go through great lengths to show what is really taught inside that religion. Of course they now live in America or some where in Europe to keep from getting their heads hacked off by their peacefull brethern.

    As for Corsi as a candidate; I would not support him if he even pooped golden eggs. Its not because of any of this that he has supposedly stated. I see him as a political-no-count with no experience and no political credibility. I am a little dissapointed in this selection from the CP and slightly troubled that he was our only choice. Our only chance at garnering 3 – 5% of the votes was with one someone who was already established nationally, politically, financially, and actively supported in most states. I think with our current selection we failed to make any of this reality. Of course, some of the reason behind this was that we were unable to attract our candidate and appeal to him to cross over. All around, and either way, its all very disappointing in my eyes.

    -Jason

  27. Cody Quirk Says:

    Sorry Trent, I’m going for Phoenix!

  28. Chris Fluharty Says:

    Cody- that is selfish of you. LOL Are joking aside it really should be in the most central location as possible. If it is in Phoenix then a lot of the smaller state affiliates will not have much or any representation. All the money people are on the coasts. We have catered to them long enough. Time to be practical. Put it in Iowa or Arkansas if you must but at least respect the entire party and not just the West and East coast affiliates. Thats my 2 cents for what it is worth ( 2 cents).

  29. Trent Hill Says:

    Well,

    To tell the truth Cody, im also kind of hoping for Phoenix. Not because I think it is a good location—but because they are petitioning there now, and if they DON’T succeed, then it will be held in KC. So…obviously im hoping they succeed.

    Jason,

    Im not surprised. Im not a big fan of Islam either. I don’t have a problem with one of my neighbors, who is a moderate Islamist who believes we can all live peacefully. Its the radicals that I can’t stand. However, that stands for Christianity, Hinduism, and Paganism. The fact is, unlike those religions, Radicals within Islam have control.
    As for the candidate selection—You have to remember that it is early yet. We are still more than a year from convention. And if a guy declared for our nomination as little as 5 months before the convention, he could still get the nod. Hell, all he’s got to do is show up to the convention and wow us. It isn’t too late yet.
    I will also say that this is a far better selection than we had last year AT the convention. Alan Keyes:A former ambassador, Jerome Corsi:an acclaimed author, and possibly some others.

  30. Andy Says:

    “On Catholics and the Pope
    CORSI: Maybe while he’s there he can tell the UN what he’s going to do about the sexual crimes committed by “priests” in his “Church” during his tenure. Or, maybe that’s the connection—boy buggering in both Islam and Catholicism is okay with the Pope as long as it isn’t reported by the liberal press. (03/03/2003)
    CORSI: So this is what the last days of the Catholic Church are going to look like. Buggering boys undermines the moral base and the laywers rip the gold off the Vatican altars. We may get one more Pope, when this senile one dies, but that’s probably about it. (12/16/2002)”

    I don’t know if the Catholic Church is really going to end soon, but other than that Corsi is dead on right here.

  31. JR Says:

    Jason –
    re: “I am a little dissapointed in this selection from the CP and slightly troubled that he was our only choice.”

    Corsi is being “drafted” – or endorsed – by General Jones. As far as I know, that is the only support Corsi has had to this point (see the polls where his numbers are insignificant.) One would suppose General Jones would like to have all these issues ironed out too before plowing on, so as far as anyone knows, even that support could dry up. In short, a “selection” by the CP at large has most definitley not been made at this point, any more than have the Republicans, Libertarians, or anyone else made their own “selections”.

    JR

  32. Jason C. Says:

    Trent,

    I agree that there is still time for someone to sweep us off our feet. As a matter of fact, I betting on it. I’m just saying, and I could very well be wrong here, Mr. Corsi in spite of all his accomplishments and talents, I don’t think is going to get us over that hump. We are in desperate need of a political warrior; a champion with noted accomplishments, sound ideals, clear vison, and proven supporters. Shooting for the stars? Probably. I understand that this scenerio proves to be practically impossible because most of our choices are currently holding on to their power: the GOP.

    Man, I sound overly critical here but, I am afraid he will be nothing more than a name. Another sacrificial lamb, a political martyr who chose principle over politics; the little guy who stood up to the powers of corruption and stood his ground. All this sounds romantic but there has to come a time when we grow dissatisfied with these moral victories and really take the opportunity to strike for the jugular. Really disrupt the establishment. However, I understand that we can not exactly kidnap our favorite candidate and make him speak for us. Hopefully as you said, there is still time for another individual to come forward. Who knows.

    -Jason

  33. Jason C. Says:

    JR,

    I undertand and agree with you. However, with the absence of other noteable candidates coming forward thus far, Mr. Corsi gives us a name, money, and at least some recognition. I will assume here that the leaders are using this same logic and will make their decision to nominate him that much easier. Thats what I am saying. Despite the polls, he already looks like the front-runner, the only runner at this time. Hey maybe the man has a trick up his sleeve, I hope so. I’m not totally hating here. I just had big expectations for the ‘08 election. If he is chosen I hope he can deliver.

    -Jason

  34. Cody Quirk Says:

    =I’m going for Phoenix because I would be able to attend.

    As outspoken as I am, I cannot afford to travel by plane or train to the national meetings back east. I’d prefer something much closer.

    (I wasn’t able to attend Boise since being on Family Leave, I have less money coming in and have to maintain a strict buget. Sorry Trent)

  35. Trent Hill Says:

    Jason,

    Corsi isn’t the frontrunner. It is rumored Alan Keyes is going to jump ship too. Alot of the party-leaders really like Alan Keyes. If he can tell us why he didnt leave the GOP sooner, how he intends to build the party, and assure us of his stances on a few minor issues…then he’ll be a lock.
    As for the Poll onlne, it includes alot of “we wish”’s
    Im rooting for a congressman to switch over too, but realistically—until we poll pretty well for the president, or get the kind of name recognition the Greens/Libs have…that wont happen. And maybe not even then.

    Even a Former Congressman would do alot to advance our cause, perhaps we should look into some Jason?

  36. Jason C. Says:

    Trent,

    I agree Trent. However, if Mr. Corsi is the candidate than I’ll root for him.

    As for our interest, we need to target political leadership and competency in our state. There is plenty of opportunity there, and I don’t think the ground is to hard. If we could some how interest just one heavy-hitter I think it would afford us so many possibilities. Do you have anyone in particular in mind? (You don’t have to answer here).

    On another note; what do you think of Jindal? I looked up his voting record and he looks pretty solid to me. I think he might have it locked up.

  37. Chris Fluharty Says:

    KC is in the middle of the country. So like you Cody there are others who cannot afford to travel but might be able to if it is in a more central location.. If it is in Arizona then only the more well to do members will make the trip. I understand the lack of funds. I just finished Cancer treatments and went back to work so I know lack of money.

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