Comments on: New Paltz Election on Tuesday http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/ Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:56:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: studentredho http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-716851 Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:20:44 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-716851 boat australia glass land yes yes boat australia glass land yes yes

]]> by: Rev. Dr. Ozymandias http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173921 Tue, 01 May 2007 23:26:01 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173921 Yeah, so I would take it by the comments here that we have the opinions of students, for the most part, supporting West. While West's "vision" may sound quite grand, and he definitely pushes these unformed dreams upon the impressionable constiuency of the college, his actions have in many instances been antithetical to what he preaches. Go to a town board meeting, take a look at what has been done, do some homework. His comments on this video are eerily reminiscent of comments he made a few months ago about New Paltz's potential as an "eco-tourism destination" in the likes of "Costa Rica" or the "Galapagos Islands". With such mighty visions and comments such as the one in the video about "wiping out" what he doesn't agree with, it is apparent that he is no different than the tyrants whose policies he rants against. This is a danger to power, that it can intoxicate beyond the ability for realistic critical thinking, it makes unchecked idealism, which has given us such wonderful people throughout history, on a grander scale, as Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler and George W. Bush. If you demand that your point be heard and acted on in this way, it doesn't matter whether you're wearing a peace symbol or a swastika. Fighting fire with fire is a sure way to annihilate both sides. The opposite approach is a longer one, one in which questions must be asked of everyone, in which all sides of all issues must be considered, in which all opinions must somehow be resloved or amalgamated. Sounds long, boring, and potentially fruitless, eh? Unfortunately it is the only reasonable way to approach things. Gandhi never mentioned wiping things out, nor did he rave like a fascist paranoiac about the world's problems, and neither did he present some mighty vision for the future. He only called for people to understand themselves, to understand their world, to learn to accept each other. That is where Change comes from. What West is talking about is a futile battle against the symptoms, like wiping the foam from a rabid animal's mouth. Okay, so these comments won't be very well liked, but I love this town, and I don't want a city. I don't believe, and these are pretty much his own words, that the survivors of some strange apocalypse are going to flee to New Paltz for safety, and I definitely do not believe his obvious unspoken belief that he is going to be the fucking Messiah. He's a drug-addled fool, and little more, and by this time tomorrow is going to be dangerous to this village if he wins. He yells and curses and VILLAGE BOARD MEMBERS, he does the same to citizens that disagree with him, he takes no cooperation from anyone...That is a tyrant folks, and while I think Terry Dungan is a politician, and that is all that needs to be said, he is at least more sane than West, is able to look with a broader view than West. Remember that Socrates drank that fuckin' hemlock, because he knew that he couldn't defy the State. If he did, and had no regard for its processes, than what right did he have to have his own opinions on a new State when he couldn't abide the laws he already lived under? Think on that one, there's a lot more Wisdom there than it seems, and for the younger folks, you'll find that the older you get, the more you understand about that kind of Wisdom. It's not giving up, it's not aquiescing, it's simply realizing that you have to work with even those you disagree with, and with constructs you disagree with, or the idea of Change is a joke, because you've become as tunnel-visioned and as intolerant as "they" are. All right, let's see what happens... Yeah, so I would take it by the comments here that we have the opinions of students, for the most part, supporting West. While West’s “vision” may sound quite grand, and he definitely pushes these unformed dreams upon the impressionable constiuency of the college, his actions have in many instances been antithetical to what he preaches. Go to a town board meeting, take a look at what has been done, do some homework. His comments on this video are eerily reminiscent of comments he made a few months ago about New Paltz’s potential as an “eco-tourism destination” in the likes of “Costa Rica” or the “Galapagos Islands”. With such mighty visions and comments such as the one in the video about “wiping out” what he doesn’t agree with, it is apparent that he is no different than the tyrants whose policies he rants against. This is a danger to power, that it can intoxicate beyond the ability for realistic critical thinking, it makes unchecked idealism, which has given us such wonderful people throughout history, on a grander scale, as Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler and George W. Bush. If you demand that your point be heard and acted on in this way, it doesn’t matter whether you’re wearing a peace symbol or a swastika. Fighting fire with fire is a sure way to annihilate both sides. The opposite approach is a longer one, one in which questions must be asked of everyone, in which all sides of all issues must be considered, in which all opinions must somehow be resloved or amalgamated. Sounds long, boring, and potentially fruitless, eh? Unfortunately it is the only reasonable way to approach things. Gandhi never mentioned wiping things out, nor did he rave like a fascist paranoiac about the world’s problems, and neither did he present some mighty vision for the future. He only called for people to understand themselves, to understand their world, to learn to accept each other. That is where Change comes from. What West is talking about is a futile battle against the symptoms, like wiping the foam from a rabid animal’s mouth. Okay, so these comments won’t be very well liked, but I love this town, and I don’t want a city. I don’t believe, and these are pretty much his own words, that the survivors of some strange apocalypse are going to flee to New Paltz for safety, and I definitely do not believe his obvious unspoken belief that he is going to be the fucking Messiah. He’s a drug-addled fool, and little more, and by this time tomorrow is going to be dangerous to this village if he wins. He yells and curses and VILLAGE BOARD MEMBERS, he does the same to citizens that disagree with him, he takes no cooperation from anyone…That is a tyrant folks, and while I think Terry Dungan is a politician, and that is all that needs to be said, he is at least more sane than West, is able to look with a broader view than West. Remember that Socrates drank that fuckin’ hemlock, because he knew that he couldn’t defy the State. If he did, and had no regard for its processes, than what right did he have to have his own opinions on a new State when he couldn’t abide the laws he already lived under? Think on that one, there’s a lot more Wisdom there than it seems, and for the younger folks, you’ll find that the older you get, the more you understand about that kind of Wisdom. It’s not giving up, it’s not aquiescing, it’s simply realizing that you have to work with even those you disagree with, and with constructs you disagree with, or the idea of Change is a joke, because you’ve become as tunnel-visioned and as intolerant as “they” are. All right, let’s see what happens…

]]> by: globalist_elitist http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173701 Tue, 01 May 2007 14:18:26 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173701 I'd love to live anywhere where they mayoral realized that the solution to making affordable housing was to make it easy for there to be MORE HOUSING. I’d love to live anywhere where they mayoral realized that the solution to making affordable housing was to make it easy for there to be MORE HOUSING.

]]> by: John Chance http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173644 Tue, 01 May 2007 12:54:36 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173644 Isnt this is what I met to write BTW Isnt this is what I met to write BTW

]]> by: John Chance http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173639 Tue, 01 May 2007 12:53:50 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173639 Sisnt this the sodomite lover??? GE/UA would love this town, full of nuts and fruits Sisnt this the sodomite lover??? GE/UA would love this town, full of nuts and fruits

]]> by: Anthony Distler http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173277 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:56:15 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173277 Maybe Mayor West will build a solid gold Dig 'Em statue in his next term in office. Ok, Family Guy jokes aside, I hope West takes this one. In the words of Mike Gravel "These other people frighten me." Maybe Mayor West will build a solid gold Dig ‘Em statue in his next term in office.

Ok, Family Guy jokes aside, I hope West takes this one. In the words of Mike Gravel “These other people frighten me.”

]]> by: globalist_elitist http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173261 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:27:09 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173261 And if I were you, Dungan, I wouldn't post a video from the inarticulate turncoat, Julia Walsh. She sounds like she is stoned in the vid. And if I were you, Dungan, I wouldn’t post a video from the inarticulate turncoat, Julia Walsh. She sounds like she is stoned in the vid.

]]> by: globalist_elitist http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173250 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:14:18 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173250 In fact, West's opponent sounds more like the conventional Green. He has the hippie folk music in his video and he talks about "planning" and he is clearly anti-growth. "We need to protect our way of life" = high rents, high taxes, no growth. Dungan, you suck. You are an elitist tool. In fact, West’s opponent sounds more like the conventional Green. He has the hippie folk music in his video and he talks about “planning” and he is clearly anti-growth. “We need to protect our way of life” = high rents, high taxes, no growth.

Dungan, you suck. You are an elitist tool.

]]> by: globalist_elitist http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173248 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:10:52 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173248 Interesting. I didn't like the loony global warming "worst case scenario" stuff he started with, but when it came to housing and business, he was pro-growth. Most Greens are interested in halting development and using communist price controls to provide "affordable housing," and then they're baffled when it doesn't work. He's talking about increasing development, increasing the housing stock so that rents will come down as a matter of competition. He wants to increase the number of businesses in the downtown - something most Greens would be appalled by. But then, he closes by invoking the potential communist greatness of "zoning laws" to "wipe" things we don't like "off the face of the earth." Overall? I give West a thumbs up. He appears to be pro-growth. Interesting. I didn’t like the loony global warming “worst case scenario” stuff he started with, but when it came to housing and business, he was pro-growth. Most Greens are interested in halting development and using communist price controls to provide “affordable housing,” and then they’re baffled when it doesn’t work. He’s talking about increasing development, increasing the housing stock so that rents will come down as a matter of competition. He wants to increase the number of businesses in the downtown – something most Greens would be appalled by.

But then, he closes by invoking the potential communist greatness of “zoning laws” to “wipe” things we don’t like “off the face of the earth.” Overall? I give West a thumbs up. He appears to be pro-growth.

]]> by: Austin Cassidy http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173170 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:58:16 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173170 Is Walsh up for re-election this go around? Is Walsh up for re-election this go around?

]]> by: newpaltztruth http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173106 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 12:22:16 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173106 For several months, Julia Walsh has not even lived in New Paltz and is serving as a trustee illegally and planning to vote for Terry Dungan illegally. It says a lot about his character that he is willing to accept her endorsement and support under these pretenses. As for Ms. Walsh, it is just more of the same and not particularly surprising. She has been completely ineffectual during her term and is unable to highlight a single accomplishment that she initiated except for the Carbon Monoxide Law that was passed earlier this month. For several months, Julia Walsh has not even lived in New Paltz and is serving as a trustee illegally and planning to vote for Terry Dungan illegally. It says a lot about his character that he is willing to accept her endorsement and support under these pretenses. As for Ms. Walsh, it is just more of the same and not particularly surprising. She has been completely ineffectual during her term and is unable to highlight a single accomplishment that she initiated except for the Carbon Monoxide Law that was passed earlier this month.

]]> by: Sonya http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173090 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:58:50 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-173090 Julia Walsh seems like a bitter bitch who wishes she was as famous as Jason West, so she tears him down instead. Julia Walsh seems like a bitter bitch who wishes she was as famous as Jason West, so she tears him down instead.

]]> by: globalist_elitist http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-172927 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 05:55:40 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-172927 Maybe this will finally please Dr. John Jacob Jenglehymer Schmidt Wayne Lake Snyder, Jr. Maybe this will finally please Dr. John Jacob Jenglehymer Schmidt Wayne Lake Snyder, Jr.

]]> by: Trent Hill http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-172894 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 04:50:03 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/04/30/new-paltz-election-on-tuesday-2/#comment-172894 MORE RIGHT WING BULLCRAP~! ...Don Raymond Lake, Doctor Paul Wayne Snyder: Is this too right-wing for you? MORE RIGHT WING BULLCRAP~!

...Don Raymond Lake, Doctor Paul Wayne Snyder:

Is this too right-wing for you?

]]>