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		<title>by: celebrity poker</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-633140</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>nice site keep it on ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>nice site keep it on <img src='http://thirdpartywatch.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>by: Tom Bryant</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-185467</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 17:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-185467</guid>
					<description>G_E, you should give attribution to the source you copied and pasted from.

That way people can click it to learn more about the subject by following the links there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>G_E, you should give attribution to the source you copied and pasted from.</p>
	<p>That way people can click it to learn more about the subject by following the links there.</p>
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		<title>by: globalist_elitist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-185120</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 09:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-185120</guid>
					<description>According to David Icke reptilian humanoids are the force behind a worldwide conspiracy directed at manipulation and control of humanity. He contends that most of the world's leaders, from George W. Bush to members of the British royal family, are in fact 7-foot tall, blood-drinking reptilians from the star system Alpha Draconis.

According to an interview with David Icke, Christine Fitzgerald, a confidante of the late Diana, Princess of Wales, claims that Diana told her that the Royal Family were reptilian aliens, and that they could shapeshift. [11] David Icke and others have claimed that U.S. President George W. Bush and his family are part of this same bloodline (Icke, 2004).

Icke claims, based on his exploration of genealogical connections to European royalty, that many presidents of the United States have been and are reptilian humanoids. In his view, United States foreign policy after September 11 is the product of a reptilian conspiracy to enslave humanity, with George W. Bush as a servant of the reptilians.

He also theorizes that the reptilians came to Earth from the constellation Draco. One type of reptilian entity that people see during alleged encounters resembles reptoids similar to those that are addressed in the studies of John Rhodes and the Reptoids Research Center. Like most conspiracy theories, proving Icke's hypotheses is impossible, but he continues to sell books and give speaking engagements based on concepts ranging from the New Age to his political opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>According to David Icke reptilian humanoids are the force behind a worldwide conspiracy directed at manipulation and control of humanity. He contends that most of the world&#8217;s leaders, from George W. Bush to members of the British royal family, are in fact 7-foot tall, blood-drinking reptilians from the star system Alpha Draconis.</p>
	<p>According to an interview with David Icke, Christine Fitzgerald, a confidante of the late Diana, Princess of Wales, claims that Diana told her that the Royal Family were reptilian aliens, and that they could shapeshift. [11] David Icke and others have claimed that U.S. President George W. Bush and his family are part of this same bloodline (Icke, 2004).</p>
	<p>Icke claims, based on his exploration of genealogical connections to European royalty, that many presidents of the United States have been and are reptilian humanoids. In his view, United States foreign policy after September 11 is the product of a reptilian conspiracy to enslave humanity, with George W. Bush as a servant of the reptilians.</p>
	<p>He also theorizes that the reptilians came to Earth from the constellation Draco. One type of reptilian entity that people see during alleged encounters resembles reptoids similar to those that are addressed in the studies of John Rhodes and the Reptoids Research Center. Like most conspiracy theories, proving Icke&#8217;s hypotheses is impossible, but he continues to sell books and give speaking engagements based on concepts ranging from the New Age to his political opinions.</p>
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		<title>by: Tom Bryant</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-184789</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 20:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-184789</guid>
					<description>Trent is absolutely correct.

This doesn't mean that we are going to invade a ton of nations, it means that there are plans laid out that we can use if the need should arise to invade a country.

They didnt start scoping out the landscape and gathering information on major cities, power plants, communication infrastructure, political leaders/factions, and such after 9/11.  That homework was already done.

Sam, I have no doubt you could spend a week posting links.  I doubt that you would be able to produce valid research though.  Knowing the difference is key.

I will note that you incorrectly identified the question at hand:

“al Qaeda is a CIA creation. The Taliban actually offered to turn in al Qaeda is the US government provided them with evidence of guilt. The truth is that the entire invasion of Afganistan was a SHAM. It was really about gaining control of the opium fields and putting an oil pipeline across Afganistan and being able to use the country as a military base.”

Another very common tell of a conspiracy loon is that they will constantly shift positions and issues.  Their arguments are very week that it cannot withstand a proper length of scrutiny.  &quot;Hit and run&quot; is the preferred tactic - make a point and run far away before you have to back it up.  

For example, Sam says &quot;We could be here all week just typing in the links on that one&quot;.  1) he's trying to deflect the current issue and 2) he's trying to scare off any scruntiny of the new issue with claims about the size of his links.

If you do ever get one of these conspiracy guys cornered, rather than admit that they are wrong, they will just assume you're a secret agent of the Masons, Mormons, Illuminati, Jews, Bankers, Nazis, Lizardmen, Aliens, or whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Trent is absolutely correct.</p>
	<p>This doesn&#8217;t mean that we are going to invade a ton of nations, it means that there are plans laid out that we can use if the need should arise to invade a country.</p>
	<p>They didnt start scoping out the landscape and gathering information on major cities, power plants, communication infrastructure, political leaders/factions, and such after 9/11.  That homework was already done.</p>
	<p>Sam, I have no doubt you could spend a week posting links.  I doubt that you would be able to produce valid research though.  Knowing the difference is key.</p>
	<p>I will note that you incorrectly identified the question at hand:</p>
	<p>&#8220;al Qaeda is a <span class="caps">CIA</span> creation. The Taliban actually offered to turn in al Qaeda is the US government provided them with evidence of guilt. The truth is that the entire invasion of Afganistan was a <span class="caps">SHAM</span>. It was really about gaining control of the opium fields and putting an oil pipeline across Afganistan and being able to use the country as a military base.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Another very common tell of a conspiracy loon is that they will constantly shift positions and issues.  Their arguments are very week that it cannot withstand a proper length of scrutiny.  &#8220;Hit and run&#8221; is the preferred tactic &#8211; make a point and run far away before you have to back it up.</p>
	<p>For example, Sam says &#8220;We could be here all week just typing in the links on that one&#8221;.  1) he&#8217;s trying to deflect the current issue and 2) he&#8217;s trying to scare off any scruntiny of the new issue with claims about the size of his links.</p>
	<p>If you do ever get one of these conspiracy guys cornered, rather than admit that they are wrong, they will just assume you&#8217;re a secret agent of the Masons, Mormons, Illuminati, Jews, Bankers, Nazis, Lizardmen, Aliens, or whatever.</p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-184775</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 19:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-184775</guid>
					<description>Plans? Probably. The CIA/Millitary infrastructure probably has a plan to invade EVERY country. It is part of why we can respond so quickly. We don't need a plan, we just need to know how to execute it,and if we should. You think we didn't have a plan long before the Lusitania was sunk? You think we didn't have a plan for invading Germany before Pearl Harbor was bombed. Obviously we did, that is called Military Preparedness. Don't be a tool.

Yea, you could type in 100,000 links about 9/11 being planned by the U.S. Government....but that is all they would be...obscure website links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Plans? Probably. The <span class="caps">CIA</span>/Millitary infrastructure probably has a plan to invade <span class="caps">EVERY</span> country. It is part of why we can respond so quickly. We don&#8217;t need a plan, we just need to know how to execute it,and if we should. You think we didn&#8217;t have a plan long before the Lusitania was sunk? You think we didn&#8217;t have a plan for invading Germany before Pearl Harbor was bombed. Obviously we did, that is called Military Preparedness. Don&#8217;t be a tool.</p>
	<p>Yea, you could type in 100,000 links about 9/11 being planned by the U.S. Government&#8230;.but that is all they would be&#8230;obscure website links.</p>
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		<title>by: sam i am</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-184673</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 17:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-184673</guid>
					<description>The question was did the US have plans before 9/11 to invade Afganistan.

The answer is yes and the links do bear it out.

As for US regime planning 9/11, we could be here all week just typing in the links on that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The question was did the US have plans before 9/11 to invade Afganistan.</p>
	<p>The answer is yes and the links do bear it out.</p>
	<p>As for US regime planning 9/11, we could be here all week just typing in the links on that one.</p>
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		<title>by: Tom Bryant</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-184551</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 14:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-184551</guid>
					<description>Andy,

The links you provided are not considered proper research sources.

That is why you fall for a lot of BS on the internet, you seem to think that any website is a credible source.  Whatreallyhappened and rense are not credible sources. The article from the Guardian does not provide any evidence to backup your statement that the US government planned 9/11.  In fact, it does quote people believe AQ's threats against the US are effectively an admission of guilt.

So your research consists of:
1) A conspiracy theory website
2) An amatuer website of a conspiracy/UFO believer
3) A newspaper article that does not support your thesis

Now folks...did I call this one or what?

Andy doesn't know how to properly use the internet to do research, and so he falls for just about anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Andy,</p>
	<p>The links you provided are not considered proper research sources.</p>
	<p>That is why you fall for a lot of BS on the internet, you seem to think that any website is a credible source.  Whatreallyhappened and rense are not credible sources. The article from the Guardian does not provide any evidence to backup your statement that the US government planned 9/11.  In fact, it does quote people believe AQ&#8217;s threats against the US are effectively an admission of guilt.</p>
	<p>So your research consists of:<br />
1) A conspiracy theory website<br />
2) An amatuer website of a conspiracy/UFO believer<br />
3) A newspaper article that does not support your thesis</p>
	<p>Now folks&#8230;did I call this one or what?</p>
	<p>Andy doesn&#8217;t know how to properly use the internet to do research, and so he falls for just about anything.</p>
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		<title>by: Susan Hogarth</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-184497</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 14:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-184497</guid>
					<description>Tom writes: &quot;The Taliban should have been, at MOST, a second priority. Instead, the US made them the central focus. That harmed the main mission of liquidating al Qaeda,...&quot;

Quite likely the 'main mission' was exactly what was accomplished - the creation of a new bugaboo ('global turrism' or 'islamofacism', take your pick) to replace the laughable Russian Bear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Tom writes: &#8220;The Taliban should have been, at <span class="caps">MOST</span>, a second priority. Instead, the US made them the central focus. That harmed the main mission of liquidating al Qaeda,...&#8221;</p>
	<p>Quite likely the &#8216;main mission&#8217; was exactly what was accomplished &#8211; the creation of a new bugaboo (&#8216;global turrism&#8217; or &#8216;islamofacism&#8217;, take your pick) to replace the laughable Russian Bear.</p>
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		<title>by: sam i am</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-184408</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 12:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-184408</guid>
					<description>Did you read it Trent? It cites Jane's Defense Weekly, BBC, MSNBC etc. 

This one's good too


http://www.rense.com/general17/spp.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Did you read it Trent? It cites Jane&#8217;s Defense Weekly, <span class="caps">BBC</span>, MSNBC etc.</p>
	<p>This one&#8217;s good too</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.rense.com/general17/spp.htm' rel='nofollow'>http://www.rense.com/general17/spp.htm</a></p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-184357</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 11:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-184357</guid>
					<description>Andy,

Wow. That WAS some good evidence. The website is even *named* &quot;What Really Happened?&quot; which basically means they are going to tell you what ACTUALLY happened. Fascinating.

Id be willing to bet the CP has just as many crazies as the LP--maybe they should all get together start a vast Right-wing conspiracy/Lizardmen revolution/9-11 Truth Search!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Andy,</p>
	<p>Wow. That <span class="caps">WAS</span> some good evidence. The website is even <strong>named</strong> &#8220;What Really Happened?&#8221; which basically means they are going to tell you what <span class="caps">ACTUALLY</span> happened. Fascinating.</p>
	<p>Id be willing to bet the CP has just as many crazies as the LP&#8212;maybe they should all get together start a vast Right-wing conspiracy/Lizardmen revolution/9-11 Truth Search!</p>
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		<title>by: globalist_elitist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-184186</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 08:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-184186</guid>
					<description>Andy - Check it out. I'm sure you'll love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Andy &#8211; Check it out. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll love it.</p>
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		<title>by: Andy</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-183926</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 03:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-183926</guid>
					<description>Bush Rejects Taliban Offer to Hand bin Laden Over
http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,573975,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bush Rejects Taliban Offer to Hand bin Laden Over<br />
<a href='http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,573975,00.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,573975,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>by: Andy</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-183883</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 02:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-183883</guid>
					<description>&quot;globalist_elitist Says: 

May 15th, 2007 at 7:10 pm 
Andy says “Go to snopes.com. But the thing is – everything they say is false is actually true, and everything they say is true is actually false. It is the only way they can stay under the Illuminati’s radar. 2Pac lives.'&quot;

I've never been to snopes.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;globalist_elitist Says:</p>
	<p>May 15th, 2007 at 7:10 pm<br />
Andy says &#8220;Go to snopes.com. But the thing is &#8211; everything they say is false is actually true, and everything they say is true is actually false. It is the only way they can stay under the Illuminati&#8217;s radar. 2Pac lives.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
	<p>I&#8217;ve never been to snopes.com.</p>
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		<title>by: sam i am</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-183802</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 00:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-183802</guid>
					<description>Try reading Jude Wanninski. Archive at Lew Rockwell, and elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Try reading Jude Wanninski. Archive at Lew Rockwell, and elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>by: globalist_elitist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-183722</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 23:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/05/14/qa-with-steve-kubby-foreign-policy/#comment-183722</guid>
					<description>Andy says &quot;Go to snopes.com. But the thing is - everything they say is false is actually true, and everything they say is true is actually false. It is the only way they can stay under the Illuminati's radar. 2Pac lives.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Andy says &#8220;Go to snopes.com. But the thing is &#8211; everything they say is false is actually true, and everything they say is true is actually false. It is the only way they can stay under the Illuminati&#8217;s radar. 2Pac lives.&#8221; </p>
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