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	<title>Comments on: Reuters article on possible Bloomberg candidacy</title>
	<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/</link>
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		<title>by: timothy west</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-216546</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Atlas will shrug like a motherfucker in that case.&quot;

yeah, he will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Atlas will shrug like a motherfucker in that case.&#8221;</p>
	<p>yeah, he will.</p>
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		<title>by: globalist_elitist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215370</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 05:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215370</guid>
					<description>matt - I don't agree with you. I'm no Rudy fan, but I think he would be difficult for the Dems to beat. He would have the business/war coalition. The social conservatives can go fuck themselves in that case. What I hope is that Fred Thompson is the nominee. Atlas will shrug like a motherfucker in that case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>matt &#8211; I don&#8217;t agree with you. I&#8217;m no Rudy fan, but I think he would be difficult for the Dems to beat. He would have the business/war coalition. The social conservatives can go fuck themselves in that case. What I hope is that Fred Thompson is the nominee. Atlas will shrug like a motherfucker in that case.</p>
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		<title>by: Andy</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215267</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215267</guid>
					<description>&quot;Can you imagine 3 NEW YORKERS running at the same time: Hillary, Rudy and Bloomberg? Add Wayne Root in there on the Libertarian Party ticket and that would be 4!!&quot;

This would be a nightmare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Can you imagine 3 <span class="caps">NEW YORKERS</span> running at the same time: Hillary, Rudy and Bloomberg? Add Wayne Root in there on the Libertarian Party ticket and that would be 4!!&#8221;</p>
	<p>This would be a nightmare.</p>
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		<title>by: Andy</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215266</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215266</guid>
					<description>&quot;And Theodore Roosevelt wasn’t nominated for president by his Progressive Party until August 1912, yet he got on the ballot in all states except Oklahoma.&quot;

It sounds like Oklahoma must have been a bitch for ballot access even back then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;And Theodore Roosevelt wasn&#8217;t nominated for president by his Progressive Party until August 1912, yet he got on the ballot in all states except Oklahoma.&#8221;</p>
	<p>It sounds like Oklahoma must have been a bitch for ballot access even back then.</p>
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		<title>by: Andy</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215263</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215263</guid>
					<description>&quot;Anyone have data on how much Perot spent vs. the majors? My guess is not as much. A hundred mill or so?&quot;

I remember in '92 Ross Perot spent like $65 million.  I believe that the Democrats and Republicans that year each spent around $120 million.   

&quot;Oh yeah? What if the Bloomberg campaign pays $100 per valid signature. Even if a million signatures were required (which they’re not), that would be $100 million or 1/10 of one billion. He’d still have $900 million for the race—and that’s assuming he’d only spend $1 billion.

Money can solve a lot of problems.&quot;

It is going to take around 690,000 valid petition signatures to get national ballot access in 2008.  Since signatures can be disqualified for a variety of reasons it is necessary to get more than what is required to cover the margin of error.  So I'd say that to have a comfortable margin they'd probably have to go for at least 1.2 million raw signatures.  

This is not easy to do,  especially when one considers that there are all kinds of rules in different states,  however,  if one has enough money behind them,  which Bloomberg obviously does,  this could certainly be accomplished.  Money talks.  


&quot;I HAVE SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS with Bloomberg, mostly on the issue of gun control.&quot;

That's a pretty major flaw.  

&quot;I also get the impression that he is more of an elitist than most pols, i.e. thinking he knows better than the crowd (because he’s made his billions doing exactly that). But I would certainly CONSIDER supporting him if he made a balls-to-the-wall run, and if the GOP/Dem/LP candidates truly sucked (Romney/Edwards/Root).&quot;

Bloomberg is a jackass.  There's no way in hell that I'd vote for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Anyone have data on how much Perot spent vs. the majors? My guess is not as much. A hundred mill or so?&#8221;</p>
	<p>I remember in &#8216;92 Ross Perot spent like $65 million.  I believe that the Democrats and Republicans that year each spent around $120 million.</p>
	<p>&#8220;Oh yeah? What if the Bloomberg campaign pays $100 per valid signature. Even if a million signatures were required (which they&#8217;re not), that would be $100 million or 1/10 of one billion. He&#8217;d still have $900 million for the race&#8212;and that&#8217;s assuming he&#8217;d only spend $1 billion.</p>
	<p>Money can solve a lot of problems.&#8221;</p>
	<p>It is going to take around 690,000 valid petition signatures to get national ballot access in 2008.  Since signatures can be disqualified for a variety of reasons it is necessary to get more than what is required to cover the margin of error.  So I&#8217;d say that to have a comfortable margin they&#8217;d probably have to go for at least 1.2 million raw signatures.</p>
	<p>This is not easy to do,  especially when one considers that there are all kinds of rules in different states,  however,  if one has enough money behind them,  which Bloomberg obviously does,  this could certainly be accomplished.  Money talks.</p>
	<p>&#8220;I <span class="caps">HAVE SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS</span> with Bloomberg, mostly on the issue of gun control.&#8221;</p>
	<p>That&#8217;s a pretty major flaw.</p>
	<p>&#8220;I also get the impression that he is more of an elitist than most pols, i.e. thinking he knows better than the crowd (because he&#8217;s made his billions doing exactly that). But I would certainly <span class="caps">CONSIDER</span> supporting him if he made a balls-to-the-wall run, and if the <span class="caps">GOP</span>/Dem/LP candidates truly sucked (Romney/Edwards/Root).&#8221;</p>
	<p>Bloomberg is a jackass.  There&#8217;s no way in hell that I&#8217;d vote for him.</p>
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		<title>by: matt</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215219</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215219</guid>
					<description>Being pragmatic about Rudy means not nominating him. 

He is an ethics scandal waiting to happen. Last week's Rolling Stone had a huge spread about it, and if the campaign turns negative, he's toast unless he has AMAZING dirt on his opponent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Being pragmatic about Rudy means not nominating him.</p>
	<p>He is an ethics scandal waiting to happen. Last week&#8217;s Rolling Stone had a huge spread about it, and if the campaign turns negative, he&#8217;s toast unless he has <span class="caps">AMAZING</span> dirt on his opponent.</p>
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		<title>by: Ken H</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215204</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The group that passes for &quot;conservatives&quot; nowadays has been pragmatic for far too long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The group that passes for &#8220;conservatives&#8221; nowadays has been pragmatic for far too long.</p>
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		<title>by: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215170</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215170</guid>
					<description>As a Rudy Giuliani supporter, I see this potential Bloomberg run as a huge positive.

Look at it this way.  The Religious Conservatives in the GOP are now in a bind.  If they balk at Rudy, they risk causing Bloomberg to jump in as a &quot;Centrist New Yorker.&quot;  

So, it almost causes the Conservatives, who've been skeptical of Rudy, to be more pragmatic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As a Rudy Giuliani supporter, I see this potential Bloomberg run as a huge positive.</p>
	<p>Look at it this way.  The Religious Conservatives in the <span class="caps">GOP</span> are now in a bind.  If they balk at Rudy, they risk causing Bloomberg to jump in as a &#8220;Centrist New Yorker.&#8221;</p>
	<p>So, it almost causes the Conservatives, who&#8217;ve been skeptical of Rudy, to be more pragmatic.</p>
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		<title>by: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215169</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215169</guid>
					<description>Bloomberg's success depends entirely on who the GOP nominates.  If it's Giuliani, I can't imagine any scenario where Bloomberg would run.

Can you imagine 3 NEW YORKERS running at the same time: Hillary, Rudy and Bloomberg?  Add Wayne Root in there on the Libertarian Party ticket and that would be 4!!  

Then again, stranger things have happened in politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bloomberg&#8217;s success depends entirely on who the <span class="caps">GOP</span> nominates.  If it&#8217;s Giuliani, I can&#8217;t imagine any scenario where Bloomberg would run.</p>
	<p>Can you imagine 3 <span class="caps">NEW YORKERS</span> running at the same time: Hillary, Rudy and Bloomberg?  Add Wayne Root in there on the Libertarian Party ticket and that would be 4!!</p>
	<p>Then again, stranger things have happened in politics.</p>
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		<title>by: Brian</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215071</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215071</guid>
					<description>There's always a possibility that at least in some states Bloomberg would be able to get the support of a 3rd party already on the ballot.An example would be here in New York State where the Independence Party is the 3rd largest party with 336,000 enrolled voters. The Independence Party cross-endorsed Bloomberg when he ran for mayor in 2005 so it wouldn't be that far of a leap for the IPNY to endorse him for President...Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>There&#8217;s always a possibility that at least in some states Bloomberg would be able to get the support of a 3rd party already on the ballot.An example would be here in New York State where the Independence Party is the 3rd largest party with 336,000 enrolled voters. The Independence Party cross-endorsed Bloomberg when he ran for mayor in 2005 so it wouldn&#8217;t be that far of a leap for the <span class="caps">IPNY</span> to endorse him for President&#8230;Brian</p>
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		<title>by: Fred C.</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215016</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215016</guid>
					<description>Well Bloomberg's gone indy today.  So now the speculation turns to whether he'll re-join the Dems and team up with Hagel in Unity08, or teams up with another independent, or Hagel disaffiliates himself as part of a grander plan.

I expect Arnold will be behind him, and that might be enough for at least double digits here in Cali.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well Bloomberg&#8217;s gone indy today.  So now the speculation turns to whether he&#8217;ll re-join the Dems and team up with Hagel in Unity08, or teams up with another independent, or Hagel disaffiliates himself as part of a grander plan.</p>
	<p>I expect Arnold will be behind him, and that might be enough for at least double digits here in Cali.</p>
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		<title>by: Richard Winger</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-215005</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>John B. Anderson didn't decide to run for president as an independent until April 23, 1980, and he got on the ballot in all 50 states.  Ross Perot in 1992 started in March of that year.  Back in 1924 when the laws were better, Robert La Follette didn't declare as an independent until July 4 of that year.  And Theodore Roosevelt wasn't nominated for president by his Progressive Party until August 1912, yet he got on the ballot in all states except Oklahoma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>John B. Anderson didn&#8217;t decide to run for president as an independent until April 23, 1980, and he got on the ballot in all 50 states.  Ross Perot in 1992 started in March of that year.  Back in 1924 when the laws were better, Robert La Follette didn&#8217;t declare as an independent until July 4 of that year.  And Theodore Roosevelt wasn&#8217;t nominated for president by his Progressive Party until August 1912, yet he got on the ballot in all states except Oklahoma.</p>
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		<title>by: Tom Gellhaus</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-214941</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I would never support Bloomberg. Just too many disagreements with his positions.

If Ron Paul fails to win the Republican nomination, I intend to either vote for the Libertarian (if the LP candidate is Kubby - or certain others) or just not vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I would never support Bloomberg. Just too many disagreements with his positions.</p>
	<p>If Ron Paul fails to win the Republican nomination, I intend to either vote for the Libertarian (if the LP candidate is Kubby &#8211; or certain others) or just not vote.</p>
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		<title>by: G.E. Smith</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-214926</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Geroge - You got me there. But that can't be what he's planning to do, then. My guess is that he's planning on launching his campaign after the nominees are clear. That could be as soon as February. My guess is that he's hoping against hope that neither Rudy or Hillary win, and if both do, he'll probably not run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Geroge &#8211; You got me there. But that can&#8217;t be what he&#8217;s planning to do, then. My guess is that he&#8217;s planning on launching his campaign after the nominees are clear. That could be as soon as February. My guess is that he&#8217;s hoping against hope that neither Rudy or Hillary win, and if both do, he&#8217;ll probably not run.</p>
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		<title>by: Fred C.</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-214925</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/06/19/reuters-article-on-possible-bloomberg-candidacy/#comment-214925</guid>
					<description>While the conventions are late this coming election, the primaries are being packed into the beginning of the year. Theoretically, this means we could have both nominees by the end of February.  Some have suggested the Dems are going to be fighting all the way to the convention, which if true might give Bloomberg an opening of presenting an available alternative to what the GOP tries to sell us next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>While the conventions are late this coming election, the primaries are being packed into the beginning of the year. Theoretically, this means we could have both nominees by the end of February.  Some have suggested the Dems are going to be fighting all the way to the convention, which if true might give Bloomberg an opening of presenting an available alternative to what the <span class="caps">GOP</span> tries to sell us next year.</p>
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