Comments on: The Onion: “Remember the Reform Party?” http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:25:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: Sean Scallon http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-235221 Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:34:05 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-235221 Citizens - Thanks, I'll write those names down and keep track of them. As I said I think it's a story worth telling. Citizens – Thanks, I’ll write those names down and keep track of them. As I said I think it’s a story worth telling.

]]> by: Trent Hill http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-235008 Thu, 05 Jul 2007 05:19:43 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-235008 Don, This isnt misinformation. Last I had spoken with Mr. Martin they were strongly considering leaving the National Apparatus. If they are now actively participating, super-duper for you. However, to say the Reform Party is a functioning national party is not only wrong, but disingenuous. Don,

This isnt misinformation. Last I had spoken with Mr. Martin they were strongly considering leaving the National Apparatus. If they are now actively participating, super-duper for you.
However, to say the Reform Party is a functioning national party is not only wrong, but disingenuous.

]]> by: Don Garner http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234995 Thu, 05 Jul 2007 04:49:55 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234995 No one likes to see their Party scorned, however misinformation is unacceptable and should be responded to. No one likes to see their Party scorned, however misinformation is unacceptable and should be responded to.

]]> by: matt http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234941 Thu, 05 Jul 2007 02:29:11 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234941 Don, If you truly cannot bear to see your party scorned, run some candidates and get some election results. Barring that, this will be par for the course. Not that I care too deeply, I said earlier the Reform Party doesn't have a coherent point of view or any strong leadership. I suppose if I get proven wrong I will be pleased. Don,
If you truly cannot bear to see your party scorned, run some candidates and get some election results. Barring that, this will be par for the course. Not that I care too deeply, I said earlier the Reform Party doesn’t have a coherent point of view or any strong leadership. I suppose if I get proven wrong I will be pleased.

]]> by: Don Garner http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234940 Thu, 05 Jul 2007 02:26:39 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234940 Perhaps you should base your comments on real information. I have been in meetings with Mr. Martin. That is not his statement. He participated in a Reform Party National Committee Meeting just a couple of weeks ago. He is the Vice Chairman of the State Party of Kansas. They are not Buchananists, they are Patriots. Perhaps you should base your comments on real information. I have been in meetings with Mr. Martin. That is not his statement. He participated in a Reform Party National Committee Meeting just a couple of weeks ago. He is the Vice Chairman of the State Party of Kansas.

They are not Buchananists, they are Patriots.

]]> by: Trent Hill http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234804 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:08:52 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234804 Joseph Martin is the leader of Kansas' Reform Party. And they are Buchananists. They have long considered LEAVING the Reform Parties national apparatus, but for some reason are scared they'll lose ballot-access. And yes, Florida and Colorado are VERY easy compared to states like Illinois, Alaska, Hawaii, California, Missouri, Nevada, and Minnesota (middle of the road ballot access states) Or tough states like North Carolina, Texas, Oklahoma, or New York. Joseph Martin is the leader of Kansas’ Reform Party. And they are Buchananists. They have long considered LEAVING the Reform Parties national apparatus, but for some reason are scared they’ll lose ballot-access.
And yes, Florida and Colorado are VERY easy compared to states like Illinois, Alaska, Hawaii, California, Missouri, Nevada, and Minnesota (middle of the road ballot access states)
Or tough states like North Carolina, Texas, Oklahoma, or New York.

]]> by: Don Garner http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234744 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:19:23 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234744 Interesting you mention Kansas, they participate in Reform Party National Committee Meetings. The Chairman of the of the Kansas State Party had a lot of great things to say at the last meeting, which I attended. I didn't hear him say anything like that at all. It would seem you are quite familiar with the term "retarded", you must speak from experience. By the way, ballot access in Florida and Colorado is not easy. Finally, Your current post is not consistent with your previous statements. You previously failed to aknowledge the court deciding the leadership issue, now you backstep and state " people were pretending until the recent court decision". The only pretenders were Mr. Foster and Co. The legitimate Party has operated and has been recognized and has worked with the FEC during this mess, and anyone could go to Federal Web Sites and Court web Sites to verify who was the real officers. By the way, no one answered my prior question, wasn't the fraud Wyatt Chesney featured on this web site as well??? He was also promoted by Fosters group as well. Interesting you mention Kansas, they participate in Reform Party National Committee Meetings. The Chairman of the of the Kansas State Party had a lot of great things to say at the last meeting, which I attended. I didn’t hear him say anything like that at all.

It would seem you are quite familiar with the term “retarded”, you must speak from experience.

By the way, ballot access in Florida and Colorado is not easy.

Finally,
Your current post is not consistent with your previous statements. You previously failed to aknowledge the court deciding the leadership issue, now you backstep and state ” people were pretending until the recent court decision”. The only pretenders were Mr. Foster and Co.

The legitimate Party has operated and has been recognized and has worked with the FEC during this mess, and anyone could go to Federal Web Sites and Court web Sites to verify who was the real officers.

By the way, no one answered my prior question, wasn’t the fraud Wyatt Chesney featured on this web site as well??? He was also promoted by Fosters group as well.

]]> by: Trent Hill http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234733 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 19:55:19 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234733 Don, That is exactly what me and Austin have just explained. There are MANY people pretending they are chairmen, and no one knew who is actually was until the court decided. However, having leadership and ballot access in the 3 easiest states in the Union isnt a big deal. I could go out tomorrow and get ballot access in Colorado, Florida, and Mississippi with 500 members. Those are 3 of the easiest states. Louisiana is the only other state you have ballot access in*, and I live here--it isnt that hard--especially with a name like the Reform Party. *You also have ballot access in Kansas, but they think you're all retarded. Don,

That is exactly what me and Austin have just explained. There are MANY people pretending they are chairmen, and no one knew who is actually was until the court decided.
However, having leadership and ballot access in the 3 easiest states in the Union isnt a big deal.
I could go out tomorrow and get ballot access in Colorado, Florida, and Mississippi with 500 members. Those are 3 of the easiest states. Louisiana is the only other state you have ballot access in*, and I live here—it isnt that hard—especially with a name like the Reform Party.

*You also have ballot access in Kansas, but they think you’re all retarded.

]]> by: Don Garner http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234689 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:44:29 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234689 Sorry Trent, Austin doesn't know what he is talking about. Yes, there is a disputed $300K judgement,Do you or Austin know how that came about? It was a result of phoney people acting in the name of the Party. That judgement will be challenged.. The Reform Party still has ballot access in several States. The leadership of the Reform Party is no longer disputed, a Federal Court jury has decided that issue. All that is left is the removal of phoney web sites per the court's order and the Party moving ahead. Perhaps a little objectivity and discussion with the victors in the recent court case would help. I took the the time to talk to them, as did my local media, they are approachable people and give honest answers. Sorry Trent, Austin doesn’t know what he is talking about. Yes, there is a disputed $300K judgement,Do you or Austin know how that came about? It was a result of phoney people acting in the name of the Party. That judgement will be challenged..

The Reform Party still has ballot access in several States.

The leadership of the Reform Party is no longer disputed, a Federal Court jury has decided that issue. All that is left is the removal of phoney web sites per the court’s order and the Party moving ahead.

Perhaps a little objectivity and discussion with the victors in the recent court case would help. I took the the time to talk to them, as did my local media, they are approachable people and give honest answers.

]]> by: Trent Hill http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234300 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:00:00 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234300 Don, Shut the hell up. Austin is clearly FAR more knowledgeable on this subject than you. As for the Reform Party being alive and well. They have 300k to get out of debt, and they have to do it without any fundraising techniques. Talk ABOUT screwed. Also, the Prohibition Party has run presidential contenders consistently since the early 1900's. Does that make them any less dead? No. Don,

Shut the hell up. Austin is clearly FAR more knowledgeable on this subject than you.
As for the Reform Party being alive and well. They have 300k to get out of debt, and they have to do it without any fundraising techniques. Talk ABOUT screwed.
Also, the Prohibition Party has run presidential contenders consistently since the early 1900’s. Does that make them any less dead? No.

]]> by: Austin Cassidy http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234160 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 04:25:04 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234160 Oh, and I looked up the interview you mentioned. It was prefaced with the following statement: "Foster is one of several people who claim to be the “true” Chairman of the Reform Party. This interview should not be taken to mean that this site “endorses” any one faction of the party over another." Oh, and I looked up the interview you mentioned. It was prefaced with the following statement: “Foster is one of several people who claim to be the “true” Chairman of the Reform Party. This interview should not be taken to mean that this site “endorses” any one faction of the party over another.”

]]> by: Austin Cassidy http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234159 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 04:20:57 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234159 I don't know who Charles Foster even is. And it's my understanding that many of the candidates who ran with the Reform label in 2006 did so as representatives of different factions. Who is the chairman of the Reform Party right now? What is the national party's website? Whatever your answer, I can give you 3 people who disagree and have just as many supporters and just as much money as the person you ID. The RPUSA is, essentially, dead. I don’t know who Charles Foster even is. And it’s my understanding that many of the candidates who ran with the Reform label in 2006 did so as representatives of different factions.

Who is the chairman of the Reform Party right now? What is the national party’s website?

Whatever your answer, I can give you 3 people who disagree and have just as many supporters and just as much money as the person you ID.

The RPUSA is, essentially, dead.

]]> by: Don Garner http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234154 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 04:10:16 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234154 Mr. Cassidy Why wasn't the happy talk interview with the fraud Chrales Foster followed by your negative diatribes like you post now? It seems that you didn't have a negative view of the Reform Party until very recently when a group of frauds were found to have never been officers. The fact is your comments are intellectually dishonest. The Reform Party in 2006 ran candidates in Arizona, Rhode Island, Kansas, Florida, and Colorado. That doesn't sound lime a disfunctunal party to me. Also the Party defeated an attempt by a bunch of frauds to steal the Party name, that doesn't sound like a disfunctunal Party to me. I used to feel that way too, but I started following the party again in early 2006, and they are really doing things. Like I said, get real. Sorry your bud Foster was exposed. By the way, Did your web site also interview a guy by the name of Wyatt Chesney who was "running for President" who turned out to be a fraud as well?? You seem to keep interesting company, but then again, birds of a feather flock together. Mr. Cassidy

Why wasn’t the happy talk interview with the fraud Chrales Foster followed by your negative diatribes like you post now? It seems that you didn’t have a negative view of the Reform Party until very recently when a group of frauds were found to have never been officers.

The fact is your comments are intellectually dishonest. The Reform Party in 2006 ran candidates in Arizona, Rhode Island, Kansas, Florida, and Colorado. That doesn’t sound lime a disfunctunal party to me. Also the Party defeated an attempt by a bunch of frauds to steal the Party name, that doesn’t sound like a disfunctunal Party to me. I used to feel that way too, but I started following the party again in early 2006, and they are really doing things. Like I said, get real. Sorry your bud Foster was exposed. By the way, Did your web site also interview a guy by the name of Wyatt Chesney who was “running for President” who turned out to be a fraud as well?? You seem to keep interesting company, but then again, birds of a feather flock together.

]]> by: Austin Cassidy http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234144 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 03:37:08 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234144 The Reform Party is a basket case. I haven't the slightest clue who the national chairman or any other party officials are. In fact, I would bet I could find five people who claimed to be the chairman of the Reform Party. As to Charles Foster... I didn't interview him, another contributor to this site did. I am biased. I am not a fraud. The Reform Party is a nonfunctional entity, much like the Natural Law Party... except the NLP's dissolution was much more orderly than the mess that some people continue to call the Reform Party. The Reform Party is a basket case. I haven’t the slightest clue who the national chairman or any other party officials are. In fact, I would bet I could find five people who claimed to be the chairman of the Reform Party.

As to Charles Foster… I didn’t interview him, another contributor to this site did.

I am biased. I am not a fraud.

The Reform Party is a nonfunctional entity, much like the Natural Law Party… except the NLP’s dissolution was much more orderly than the mess that some people continue to call the Reform Party.

]]> by: Don Garner http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234047 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:14:37 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/02/the-onion-remember-the-reform-party/#comment-234047 Mr. Cassidy: Yes, you decide what to post. That said, this site is nothing but a collection of your favorite stories. As for the fraud comment, you posted a "interview" with a chap by the name of Charles Foster. YOUR SITE posted this article as a glorious article -interview with him as the Chairman of the Reform Party. It was a happy talk interview. That chap Foster was proven by a Federal Jury to have never been a officer of the Reform Party, then after that court decision, you make nasty comments about the Reform Party. That makes you biased, a Fraud and a hypocrite. In 2006 the Reform party ran a large number of candidates from local to federal level, yet because your chap Foster was proven to be a fraud, you make nasty comments about the party while talking up other 3rd Parties like Socialists and others. Get Real Mr. Cassidy:

Yes, you decide what to post. That said, this site is nothing but a collection of your favorite stories. As for the fraud comment, you posted a “interview” with a chap by the name of Charles Foster. YOUR SITE posted this article as a glorious article -interview with him as the Chairman of the Reform Party. It was a happy talk interview. That chap Foster was proven by a Federal Jury to have never been a officer of the Reform Party, then after that court decision, you make nasty comments about the Reform Party. That makes you biased, a Fraud and a hypocrite.

In 2006 the Reform party ran a large number of candidates from local to federal level, yet because your chap Foster was proven to be a fraud, you make nasty comments about the party while talking up other 3rd Parties like Socialists and others. Get Real

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