Southern Party of Georgia endorses Paul Broun for Congress

The Southern Party of Georgia has endorsed Republican Paul Broun for United States House of Representatives in July 17th’s special runoff election.

23 Responses to “Southern Party of Georgia endorses Paul Broun for Congress”

  1. Flaggots for Broun | Peach Pundit Says:

    [...] The Southern Party of Georgia has endorsed Paul Broun. [...]

  2. Trent Hill Says:

    This guy actually isnt bad. I may donate to his campaign.
    Mind you, I havent looked through most of the literature.

  3. G.E. Smith the Capitalist Dove Says:

    He’s an anti-growth, tax-hiking, wealth redistributionist. I didn’t need to read his literature to determine that.

  4. Trent Hill Says:

    How do u figure GE? He states he wants to abolish the IRS and end the federal income tax,as well as “get the federal government off our backs”

    He also wants to stop illegal immigration, protect private property rights, and restore constitutional government.
    I think he is pro-war, which chafes me. But all in all,seems like a good candidate. No Ron Paul (due to the lack of libertarian bent), but a strong conservative.

  5. G.E. Smith the Capitalist Dove Says:

    Fair Tax.

    Unless his brand of “stopping illegal immigration” includes the abolition of quotas and full allowance of peaceful capitalists into the country, it is a welfare program for low-skilled Americans.

    Osama bin Laden is a strong conservative.

  6. Doug Craig Says:

    The funny thing is his campaign was the first on I ever worked on back in 1992. He was running for US House In one of Newt ’s old Distists. He lost in the Repubilican primary by about 5%. He was a big pro – life candidate.This was before I saw the Libertarian light and drink all the purple kool -aid.

  7. Trent Hill Says:

    Where does it say he is for the fairtax? I didnt see it. (Not saying it isnt there)

  8. Anthony Distler Says:

    He’s endorced by the SOUTHERN PARTY! Aren’t those the same guys who want another Confederacy? And doesn’t that, in the least bit, scare you?

  9. G.E. Smith the Capitalist Dove Says:

    Did you go to his site, Trent? Watch the little presentation in the banner. First, he boasts of his war-mongering, then “protecting private property” (like slaves, I guess), and third “ADOPTING THE FAIR TAX.”

  10. Trent Hill Says:

    “then “protecting private property” (like slaves, I guess)”

    Dont be inflammatory GE, me and you want to protect private property too.

    I’ll visit his site now though. I still prefer this guy over the average legislator.
    FairTax, eh,better than the current Income Tax. He does seem pretty gung-ho about War, but he IS trying to get elected in Georgia. All in all, he’d be a welcome replacement to 99 out of 100 of the other Republicans/Democrats.

  11. G.E. Smith the Capitalist Dove Says:

    FairTax would be far worse than the current tax regime.

    If government is to protect private property, then some form of taxation on that property is clearly just, lest propertied individuals would be welfare leeches, benefiting from the state without paying for that benefit. Perhaps a Georgist tax regime would be best, and it is unquestionable that LOWER income taxes would be better than the current rates (and the current rates ARE better than the former rates), but a tax on economic transactions is the worst of all possible taxes. Income taxes, when rates are low and marginal, do not discourage income. The Fair Tax—a 28% tax on every item bought or sold—would absolutely discourage economic activity, and that discouragement IS a hallmark of “conservatism,” which is a philosophy of regressing into the agrarian-feudal past.

    As for being “inflammatory,” the guy is endorsed by the Southern Party. That’s inflammatory by its very nature.

  12. Trent Hill Says:

    How would a 28% sales tax discourage economic activity, when everyone would have 34% MORE money in their pockets?

    It might,but it seems unreasonable to me.

    Also, Fred Phelps of godhatesfags.com endorsed Al Gore in 2000. Endorsements arent inflammatory if they arent embraced.

  13. G.E. Smith the Capitalist Dove Says:

    The fact that I would have 34% more money in my pocket means nothing as far as the disincentive to spend. Give me $100 extra dollars and then take $82 away if I perform a certain activity and I WILL USE MY $100 IN A WAY THAT AVOIDS THAT TAX OF $28.

    The FairTax is the true definition of conservatism: Big government, total control, social engineering, anti-progress, pro-Luddite. I’m actually surprised the Constitution Party isn’t fully supportive of it.

    You realize the FairTax has an exclusion for used items, right? It would turn the pro-growth prosperity of modern times into a nation-wide garage sale. I’m for civil liberties, but if all of the FairTaxers were thrown in Gitmo, I might forget to show up at the protest.

  14. G.E. Smith the Capitalist Dove Says:

    $18. Bad math.

  15. disinter Says:

    Great. So when is the LP going to endorse Ron Paul?

  16. Trent Hill Says:

    I havent done any research on FairTax GE. The way I figure it—it’s still a huge tax of 20-30 cents per dollar, and I dont like that. But I DO think its better than the income tax (on the surface mind you).
    I didnt know ANY items were exempted from the FairTax, nor do I know if there is some sort of “Allowance” where there is no taxes. For example, if milk and bread are exempt from these taxes.
    But on the surface, I prefer a 28% sales tax to a 34% income tax (that is progressive. More money I make, more I get taxed—discouraging growth).
    That would be a 6% growth in my paycheck—so i’v no problem with that personally. But I do see how a 28% sales tax would discourage economic activity. I’ll need to research it more. Nevertheless, abolishing the IRS is a noble cause.
    (of course, im not sure who he thinks is going to run the FairTax)

  17. G.E. Smith the Capitalist Dove Says:

    What research is necessary? Tax an activity, get less of that activity. Income does not work quite the same way, so long as marginal rates are low and especially if they are flat. Yes, you can try to get income from more tax advantaged sources (capital gains, etc.), but essentially, you want to make money and so long as each successive dollar is taxed at the same rate, the incentive to make that next dollar remains the same.

    A sales tax is a tax on ONE use of money. It encourages alternative uses for that money.

    If the FairTax were applied to used items, then it would be a double and triple and X10000 tax. Business inputs aren’t taxed either, meaning the lumber you use to build a chair isn’t taxed, but the chair itself is taxed. Sound cool? Yeah, excep this nation will become a world-wide garage sale! Imagine the implications for one second on productivity. THIS IS WHAT THE FAIR TAXERS WANT. They want an end to innovation because CONSERVATIVES HATE PROPSERITY. They always have and they always will.

    Nothing but used items is exempt. Not even credit card interest. Not food. Not baby clothes. NOTHING.

    Secondly, your marginal tax rate is not 34% unless you are very wealthy, and your EFFECTIVE tax rate is certainly not 34% no matter who you are. Get that straight. FairTax is NOT a tax cut for anyone. It is an anti-growth tax, because revenues will drop year after year as people divert spending away from taxable items—the economy would crash in a matter of a year or two. Great Depression all over again, guaranteed.

    This doesn’t even get into the HUGE welfare aspect. Come on, Trent, you have to know at least this much. EVERY AMERICAN BECOMES A WELFARE RECIPIENT UNDER THE FAIRTAX. They get a prebate of $xhundred a month to cover “living expenses.”

    Anyone who adovcates the FairTax is a straight up idiot, the lowest intellectual scum on the face of the earth. The sheer stupidity of favoring such a repulsively anti-growth tax scheme; the literal retardation required to not see the obvious implications thereof… These people honestly should be euthanized.

    Ask your racist buddies at Mises. Even they don’t hate growth enough to advocate this sham.

  18. Trent Hill Says:

    “THIS IS WHAT THE FAIR TAXERS WANT. They want an end to innovation because CONSERVATIVES HATE PROPSERITY. They always have and they always will.”

    Oh c’mon, talk about conspiracy theories.

    “Nothing but used items is exempt. Not even credit card interest. Not food. Not baby clothes. NOTHING.”

    Didnt know this. Definetly not on board with FairTax. Truth be told, i’d done very little looking into it.

    “This doesn’t even get into the HUGE welfare aspect. Come on, Trent, you have to know at least this much. EVERY AMERICAN BECOMES A WELFARE RECIPIENT UNDER THE FAIRTAX. They get a prebate of $xhundred a month to cover “living expenses.””

    I didnt know that. What is the point of it? If you’re going to give 2% back as a “living expense” why not just tax 2% less?

    “Ask your racist buddies at Mises. Even they don’t hate growth enough to advocate this sham.”

    Thought you were toning down the inflammatory rhetoric?

  19. G.E. Smith the Capitalist Dove Says:

    The FairTax gets me inflamed. Racism does too. Mix the two, and I’ll be a bigger flamer than RuPaul.

    It’s no “conspiracy theory”—it is history. It is epistemology. Look up the words “conspiracy” and “theory” in the dictionary. This is not a “conspiracy” and mine is not a “theory”—it is an epistemological fact. Facts mean nothing to those who place tradition and faith above reason, and as a self-identified conservative, that probably includes you. But A is A and conservatives hate wealth just like socialists hate choice. You can’t turn the world upside down and then label anyone who would right it a “conspiracy theorist.” You can’t advocate mass poverty and then accuse the opponents thereof of being “inflammatory.” That is weak.

  20. Trent Hill Says:

    Im a self-identified Paleolibertarian. But whatever.

    And I dont place much above Reason.

    “You can’t turn the world upside down and then label anyone who would right it a “conspiracy theorist.” ”

    I called you a conspiracy theorest because you said “They want an end to innovation because CONSERVATIVES HATE PROPSERITY.”

    Yes. We hate innovation. We despise lightbulbs and computers. I hate prosperity too. I want to live with a dirt floor. You caught me.
    Sorry,but saying all conservatives hate prosperity and want to end innovation is nothing more than low-balling, slanderous remarks that can neither be proven nor should they be taken seriously. Anymore than saying liberals want to make our country communist. Maybe some do, but the vast majority are simply misinformed.
    At best you could have said that the LEADERS of the conservative movement hated prosperity. And if you want to make that sell, go for it.

    And I never advocated “Mass poverty”. I said, upfront, that I’d never even looked into the basic tenants of FairTax (nor of FlatTax, although im sure I have the gist of it).

  21. G.E. Smith the Capitalist Dove Says:

    Conservatism, as an ideology, has been the historical enemy of human progress, both cultural and economic. That is a fact. It is not a theory, and there is no conspiracy needed.

    Paleolibertarian is the worst misnomer ever. The original libertarians were nothing like the “paleos.” In fact, the real definition of a palelibertarian—i.e. Lysander Spooner, Benjamin Tucker, etc.—is an anti-state socialist. “Conservative” libertarians should call themselves “neo-libertarians,” like their standard bearer, Eric Ondeildo Shittberg.

  22. matt Says:

    Well, barring a recount, Broun just won himself a House seat. Let’s hope he’s antiwar and was just afraid to talk about it during the campaign.

    http://onlineathens.com/stories/071807/news_20070718078.shtml

  23. Mike Says:

    You must always fight for the most Conservative/Libertarian reform candidate. Paul Broun is a reform conservative and Whitehead is a establishment Republican. Both may say the same thing, but look at who supports them and you see which one is best. Paul’s victory yesterday is a victory for those who may like the words of conservatives but do not trust establishment Republicans.

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