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	<title>Comments on: Ron Paul and the Libertarian National Convention</title>
	<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/</link>
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		<title>by: Dee Dillon</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-593396</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 20:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I believe some of you misunderstood what Ron Paul has said in the past.

It's my understanding that he DID NOT say he WOULD NOT RUN on a 3rd Party ticket.

He has said from time to time that he doesn't have intentions to run on a 3rd Party ticket.

Of course, that is not a definitive statement, and intentions can change.

And I believe the horrible way the GOP has treated Ron Paul -- denying him delegates in Tex &amp;#38; La, and now in Nevada WARRANTS HIM CHANGING HIS INTENTIONS AND ACCEPTING THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY NOMINATION!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I believe some of you misunderstood what Ron Paul has said in the past.</p>
	<p>It&#8217;s my understanding that he <span class="caps">DID NOT</span> say he <span class="caps">WOULD NOT RUN</span> on a 3rd Party ticket.</p>
	<p>He has said from time to time that he doesn&#8217;t have intentions to run on a 3rd Party ticket.</p>
	<p>Of course, that is not a definitive statement, and intentions can change.</p>
	<p>And I believe the horrible way the <span class="caps">GOP</span> has treated Ron Paul&#8212;denying him delegates in Tex &#038; La, and now in Nevada <span class="caps">WARRANTS HIM CHANGING HIS INTENTIONS AND ACCEPTING THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY NOMINATION</span>!</p>
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		<title>by: Dan</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-527000</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>When do you think the Feds will implement the Amero currency?
Do you think the Amero will be just as worthless as the current dollar? Do you think things will be far worse if they do bring in the Amero?

What things can we expect to see (economy, society, housing, food, energy, foreign relations ect..) when they do bring in the Amero?

If I were you I would start buying gold and silver coins which I am.
Because those coins will be worth more than the dollar and the Amero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>When do you think the Feds will implement the Amero currency?<br />
Do you think the Amero will be just as worthless as the current dollar? Do you think things will be far worse if they do bring in the Amero?</p>
	<p>What things can we expect to see (economy, society, housing, food, energy, foreign relations ect..) when they do bring in the Amero?</p>
	<p>If I were you I would start buying gold and silver coins which I am.<br />
Because those coins will be worth more than the dollar and the Amero.</p>
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		<title>by: Free</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-269417</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><strong> Come chat with sexy cam girls</strong></p>
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		<title>by: Mark Hosler</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-253700</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 08:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-253700</guid>
					<description>Dondero!  D.O.N.D.E.Ro!

Dondero...Is there any escape from noise?   Is there any escape from noise?
Is     there    any    escape  from  noise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Dondero!  D.O.N.D.E.Ro!</p>
	<p>Dondero&#8230;Is there any escape from noise?   Is there any escape from noise?<br />
Is     there    any    escape  from  noise?</p>
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		<title>by: Sean Scallon</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252879</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252879</guid>
					<description>Eric, is it possible for you to answer a question with one post instead of 12 in a row? Talk about spamming.

How is Rudy a neocon? Simple. Rudy believe the United States should be a global empire, with bases all over the world to station our troops. He has put neocons like Norman Podhoretz on his campaign staff. He belives the U.S. should subservient our foreign policy interests to that of Israel. He believes the U.S. has duty to spread &quot;democracY' all over the world, by gunpoint if necessary. And Rudy has an authoritarian personality. Anyone who watched how Rudy governed New York cannot call him a libertarian. 

After all Eric, how can you support Rudy when he forced all the porno theaters and hookers off Times Square and 42nd St. For someone who reportedly has a taste for hookers, I thought you would be upset with that.

Bottom line: If Rudy is elected, we're going to war with Iran. If RP is elected, we will be at peace. How can you have a government that's supposed to be decentralized and yet maintain a global empire abroad? You can't Eric, a no amont of bogus studies or newspaper editorials can change that fact of common sense.

Today's Monday Eric, now go support Wayne Allyn Root.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Eric, is it possible for you to answer a question with one post instead of 12 in a row? Talk about spamming.</p>
	<p>How is Rudy a neocon? Simple. Rudy believe the United States should be a global empire, with bases all over the world to station our troops. He has put neocons like Norman Podhoretz on his campaign staff. He belives the U.S. should subservient our foreign policy interests to that of Israel. He believes the U.S. has duty to spread &#8220;democracY&#8217; all over the world, by gunpoint if necessary. And Rudy has an authoritarian personality. Anyone who watched how Rudy governed New York cannot call him a libertarian.</p>
	<p>After all Eric, how can you support Rudy when he forced all the porno theaters and hookers off Times Square and 42nd St. For someone who reportedly has a taste for hookers, I thought you would be upset with that.</p>
	<p>Bottom line: If Rudy is elected, we&#8217;re going to war with Iran. If RP is elected, we will be at peace. How can you have a government that&#8217;s supposed to be decentralized and yet maintain a global empire abroad? You can&#8217;t Eric, a no amont of bogus studies or newspaper editorials can change that fact of common sense.</p>
	<p>Today&#8217;s Monday Eric, now go support Wayne Allyn Root.</p>
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		<title>by: Andy</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252418</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 23:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252418</guid>
					<description>&quot;First we now learn from our friend Andy that 'Liberals who support the War in Iraq are NeoCons.'

That’s a real interesting coalition those pesky NeoCons got going there. Everyone from Lesbian fmr. ACLU Activist Tammy Baldwin to Pat Robertson and the Religious Right.&quot;

These &quot;liberals&quot; in question are neo-con on THAT ISSUE,  and it just happens to be THAT ISSUE - foreign policy - which is the most important definitional issue to the neo-cons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;First we now learn from our friend Andy that &#8216;Liberals who support the War in Iraq are NeoCons.&#8217;</p>
	<p>That&#8217;s a real interesting coalition those pesky NeoCons got going there. Everyone from Lesbian fmr. <span class="caps">ACLU </span>Activist Tammy Baldwin to Pat Robertson and the Religious Right.&#8221;</p>
	<p>These &#8220;liberals&#8221; in question are neo-con on <span class="caps">THAT ISSUE</span>,  and it just happens to be <span class="caps">THAT ISSUE </span>- foreign policy &#8211; which is the most important definitional issue to the neo-cons.</p>
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		<title>by: Andy</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252417</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 23:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252417</guid>
					<description>&quot;I was recruited into the Libertarian Party in 1985 from an Abortion Rights Action League meeting. The LP has always been a solidly Pro-Choice Party. Yes, opposed to government funding of abortions. But that doesn’t mean opposed to abortions.&quot;

Abortion is not a definitional libertarian issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;I was recruited into the Libertarian Party in 1985 from an Abortion Rights Action League meeting. The LP has always been a solidly Pro-Choice Party. Yes, opposed to government funding of abortions. But that doesn&#8217;t mean opposed to abortions.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Abortion is not a definitional libertarian issue.</p>
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		<title>by: Ken H</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252399</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252399</guid>
					<description>Mr. Dondero,

I don't engage in subdividing libertarians.  Someone either consistently advocates limited government or he doesn't.

A credible case cannot be made based on Giuliani's record as the mayor of New York City that he has been a consistent advocate of limited government.

Thus, there is no way he will ever receive my vote.

And, frankly, if it comes down to Clinton vs. Giuliani I hope that Clinton wins(and expect that to be the result).  Neither of them is a friend to liberty and I want to see the reaction of the warvangelicals to a Hillary Clinton administration since they have been such big advocates of the consolidation of power in the executive branch while &quot;their guy&quot; has been president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Mr. Dondero,</p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t engage in subdividing libertarians.  Someone either consistently advocates limited government or he doesn&#8217;t.</p>
	<p>A credible case cannot be made based on Giuliani&#8217;s record as the mayor of New York City that he has been a consistent advocate of limited government.</p>
	<p>Thus, there is no way he will ever receive my vote.</p>
	<p>And, frankly, if it comes down to Clinton vs. Giuliani I hope that Clinton wins(and expect that to be the result).  Neither of them is a friend to liberty and I want to see the reaction of the warvangelicals to a Hillary Clinton administration since they have been such big advocates of the consolidation of power in the executive branch while &#8220;their guy&#8221; has been president.</p>
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		<title>by: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252379</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252379</guid>
					<description>Question for Ken H.

Would you acknowledge that there is such a thing as a &quot;Mainstream&quot; or &quot;Moderate&quot; Libertarian?  Or, is it required that anybody who uses the term &quot;libertarian&quot; has to be a radical extremist type?

And if you do acknowledge Moderate Libertarians, could you kindly suggest a few names of people who you believe qualify for such a title?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Question for Ken H.</p>
	<p>Would you acknowledge that there is such a thing as a &#8220;Mainstream&#8221; or &#8220;Moderate&#8221; Libertarian?  Or, is it required that anybody who uses the term &#8220;libertarian&#8221; has to be a radical extremist type?</p>
	<p>And if you do acknowledge Moderate Libertarians, could you kindly suggest a few names of people who you believe qualify for such a title?</p>
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		<title>by: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252378</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252378</guid>
					<description>Mr. Ken H.

Here's your response.  There are tons and tons and tons of political issues out there.  When one considers the BIG PICTURE and includes ALL political issues out there, Giuliani rates by all unbiased standards as a &quot;libertarian-leaning Republican&quot; or &quot;Moderately libertarian.&quot;

You are correct.  He's not a Radical Libertarian who believes in mandating Bazookas for every American household, reads L. Neil Smith on a daily basis, and wants to legalize crack cocaine.  Ya got me there.  I'll come clean.

For the record:

Rudy Giuliani IS NOT A RADICAL LIBERTARIAN.

There, I said it.  Happy now?

But a Moderate Libertarian - generally &quot;fiscally conservative yet socially tolerant,&quot; in the mold of Gov. Arnold, Cong. David Dreier of CA, Dennis Miller, Jess Ventura, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, FL Gov. Crist, and many others, Giuliani certainly fits the bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Mr. Ken H.</p>
	<p>Here&#8217;s your response.  There are tons and tons and tons of political issues out there.  When one considers the <span class="caps">BIG PICTURE</span> and includes <span class="caps">ALL</span> political issues out there, Giuliani rates by all unbiased standards as a &#8220;libertarian-leaning Republican&#8221; or &#8220;Moderately libertarian.&#8221;</p>
	<p>You are correct.  He&#8217;s not a Radical Libertarian who believes in mandating Bazookas for every American household, reads L. Neil Smith on a daily basis, and wants to legalize crack cocaine.  Ya got me there.  I&#8217;ll come clean.</p>
	<p>For the record:</p>
	<p>Rudy Giuliani <span class="caps">IS NOT A RADICAL LIBERTARIAN</span>.</p>
	<p>There, I said it.  Happy now?</p>
	<p>But a Moderate Libertarian &#8211; generally &#8220;fiscally conservative yet socially tolerant,&#8221; in the mold of Gov. Arnold, Cong. David Dreier of CA, Dennis Miller, Jess Ventura, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, <span class="caps">FL </span>Gov. Crist, and many others, Giuliani certainly fits the bill.</p>
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		<title>by: Ken H</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252330</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Mr. Dondero,

Concerning the your claim that former Mayor Giuliani is a libertarian, how do you answer these:

What about Giuliani's extreme use of federal racketeering statutes?  Was that libertarian?

What about Giuliani's confiscation of guns?  Was that libertarian?

What about Giuliani's many attempts to squelch free speech?  Was that libertarian?

What about Giuliani's support of Bush's domestic surveillance program?  Is that libertarian?

Mr. Dondero, do you really believe that Giuliani would not attempt to further concentrate power in the executive branch of the U.S. government?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Mr. Dondero,</p>
	<p>Concerning the your claim that former Mayor Giuliani is a libertarian, how do you answer these:</p>
	<p>What about Giuliani&#8217;s extreme use of federal racketeering statutes?  Was that libertarian?</p>
	<p>What about Giuliani&#8217;s confiscation of guns?  Was that libertarian?</p>
	<p>What about Giuliani&#8217;s many attempts to squelch free speech?  Was that libertarian?</p>
	<p>What about Giuliani&#8217;s support of Bush&#8217;s domestic surveillance program?  Is that libertarian?</p>
	<p>Mr. Dondero, do you really believe that Giuliani would not attempt to further concentrate power in the executive branch of the U.S. government?</p>
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		<title>by: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252308</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252308</guid>
					<description>&quot;Giuliani is little more than a Bush clone&quot; thus says Jay.  

Wow.  Sheesh.  I'm speechless.  

Tell us Jay, if that's the case why is it that James Dobson, Gary Bauer, and other bigtime Religious Right supporters who are fanatic Bush backers are so determined to defeat Giuliani?  

And fyi, every one of the Bush Administration people who have left to get jobs with the Presidential campaigns has signed on with Mitt Romney, NOT Rudy Giuliani.  

I'd say Romney is a Bush clone.  Maybe Sam Brownback too?  

But not Giuliani.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Giuliani is little more than a Bush clone&#8221; thus says Jay.</p>
	<p>Wow.  Sheesh.  I&#8217;m speechless.</p>
	<p>Tell us Jay, if that&#8217;s the case why is it that James Dobson, Gary Bauer, and other bigtime Religious Right supporters who are fanatic Bush backers are so determined to defeat Giuliani?</p>
	<p>And fyi, every one of the Bush Administration people who have left to get jobs with the Presidential campaigns has signed on with Mitt Romney, <span class="caps">NOT </span>Rudy Giuliani.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;d say Romney is a Bush clone.  Maybe Sam Brownback too?</p>
	<p>But not Giuliani.</p>
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		<title>by: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252306</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ken H.

I like Susan Estrich, Alan Colmes, Bob Bechel, and a host of other prominent Cable News Liberals.  I like them personally, and I trust their judgement particularly on political matters.  I agree with them on about 20 to 25% of the issues.  

So yes, to answer to your question, I do most certainly trust some people I disagree with.  

Oh, and Bill Bennett.  The guy is about as far away from me on the political spectrum as you could possibly get.  But I do like his radio talk show.  And I generally think he's a good, fair-minded guy.  I trust him, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ken H.</p>
	<p>I like Susan Estrich, Alan Colmes, Bob Bechel, and a host of other prominent Cable News Liberals.  I like them personally, and I trust their judgement particularly on political matters.  I agree with them on about 20 to 25% of the issues.</p>
	<p>So yes, to answer to your question, I do most certainly trust some people I disagree with.</p>
	<p>Oh, and Bill Bennett.  The guy is about as far away from me on the political spectrum as you could possibly get.  But I do like his radio talk show.  And I generally think he&#8217;s a good, fair-minded guy.  I trust him, as well.</p>
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		<title>by: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252304</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Wowy!  Isn't TPW informative.

First we now learn from our friend Andy that &quot;Liberals who support the War in Iraq are NeoCons.&quot;  

That's a real interesting coalition those pesky NeoCons got going there.  Everyone from Lesbian fmr. ACLU Activist Tammy Baldwin to Pat Robertson and the Religious Right.

Hey, what was it that Nixon said...

&quot;We're all NeoCons now.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Wowy!  Isn&#8217;t <span class="caps">TPW</span> informative.</p>
	<p>First we now learn from our friend Andy that &#8220;Liberals who support the War in Iraq are NeoCons.&#8221;</p>
	<p>That&#8217;s a real interesting coalition those pesky NeoCons got going there.  Everyone from Lesbian fmr. <span class="caps">ACLU </span>Activist Tammy Baldwin to Pat Robertson and the Religious Right.</p>
	<p>Hey, what was it that Nixon said&#8230;</p>
	<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re all NeoCons now.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>by: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252303</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/07/25/ron-paul-and-the-libertarian-national-convention/#comment-252303</guid>
					<description>I count at least 12 &quot;Strongly Supports&quot; for Giuliani.  He lapses on Gun Rights, gets a &quot;Weakly Supports&quot; there and failure on the Drug War question.  

I give Ron Paul a failure on the Abortion question, Gay Rights, and of course the Military issues.  

Thanks for bringing this to our attention Kris.  Looks like ontheissues.org is not entirely correct.  Maybe Giuliani is more libertarian than Ron Paul after all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I count at least 12 &#8220;Strongly Supports&#8221; for Giuliani.  He lapses on Gun Rights, gets a &#8220;Weakly Supports&#8221; there and failure on the Drug War question.</p>
	<p>I give Ron Paul a failure on the Abortion question, Gay Rights, and of course the Military issues.</p>
	<p>Thanks for bringing this to our attention Kris.  Looks like ontheissues.org is not entirely correct.  Maybe Giuliani is more libertarian than Ron Paul after all!</p>
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