souring?binoculars pleases!Samuelson Torah along

blaming golfer Domingo Gustav?

I believe at the top there is legitimate professional credible leadership. However, from there, the CP leaves a lot to be desired. Howard Phillips is known and respected by many in the political establishment as well as Mr. Clymer.”

=This is possibly the best statement about the CP recently. Jim Clymer, and Howad Phillips—as well as people like Rick Jore and Randy Stufflebeam are quite organized and professional. If they would all run for state legislature offices I would be much more pleased. However, all these guys in the mid-west that use colloidial silver and the Religious Zealots are a real turnoff. If 08 isnt the year—it’s time for a different strategy.

=Good point.

The CP will be mired in amteurism until their members, their affiliates, and their leadership can exhibit professionalism.

=Showly that is happening, and more professionalism is being expressed with the state affiliates then ever before, especially the reorganized ones.

The CP will be mired in amteurism until their members, their affiliates, and their leadership can exhibit professionalism.

I believe at the top there is legitimate professional credible leadership. However, from there, the CP leaves a lot to be desired. Howard Phillips is known and respected by many in the political establishment as well as Mr. Clymer.

Personally, I would like to see them both run for Congress or the Senate. In my opinion one of them could win if not both.

This would be great for a number of reasons. First, it will prove by example it can be done. Secondly, winning will suddenly become an option and members will work towards victory. Instead of preparing the losing speech on how much principle they have compared to their oppents. Lastly, and frankly, I’m getting a little tired of reading and hearing of principled losers. You have to win before you can change anything. What does this mean, well that must be decided locally. If enough local wins start sprouting up, the rest, National, will begin to make changes as well.

Until the CP figures this out, we will continue to be dysfunctional, disregarded, and nothing more than a novelty.

Jason

=Correction Trent- a church/political party that can recruit all over the US.

=At the same time, a CP’er can personally disagree with the Platform and still support it.
When platforms are used to dictate how you should think and act personally and privately, you got a political party modeled after 1984.

It’s a lot easier to use pejoratives than formulate an intelligent argument. The only “MORON” here is the mindless CP shill, namely, you.

=Sorry, I’m just extremely honest because you are indeed one and obviously you let your bigotry be your wisdom and intelligencen when using pejoratives youself to describe the Tampa meeting and the Nevada IAP.

=BTW, the CP doesn’t presently seem to be reeling from Tampa, don’t you think?

And Lisa, putting aside absurd references to Osama bin Laden, would you like to tell me how tearing apart a child will remedy any of those situations?

=Would you like to tell me how letting a horribly deformed mass of tissue and nevous systems live? How about not operating on a woman with a tubal pregnancy? Or even letting a mother die when she cannot physically deliver- can remedy these situations?

=Thus saith grumpy old theocrat John Lofton!

they dont care. To them,it isnt about electing people with similar beliefs. Its about having a church that can recruit from all over the US.

However, these “no-exceptions” people do realize that the CP will never be a powerful party in America with such a platform. Right?

Thus saith the lord. Ohk Lofton, that right there is why you will remain fringe forever. You believe that YOUR INTERPRETATION of the Bible is the law by which we should govern our nation.
Im sure you’ve read the scripture about Onan. Where he withdraws during intercourse and spills his seed on the ground—as a form of birth control. In your view should early-withdrawals be killed also? Mind you, I agree that Abortion is wrong.

In Leviticus 20:13, it is decreed that homosexuals should be put to death. Do you beieve this should be standard practice in the US John?
In Number 31: 1-18 the Israelites committ mass genocide (not the only time) and the Lord tells them “but all the women and children…keep them for yourselves”. Should we committ genocide on our neighbors John? Should we keep their women are body-slaves?
Deuteronomy 22:5 says Women shall not wear men’s clothing. Likewise with men wearing women’s clothing. Would you want us to follow this heavenly decree also John?
Deuteronomy 22:11 says we cant wear clothes with “mixed fibers”. Apparently even polyester offends God.
Deuteronomy 23: 13-14 describes how you MUST bury your fesces because God walks amongst us, and shouldnt have to see it.

As a Christian, I find it incredibly offensive that you advance your psuedo-Christian sharia law on us.

“Get a clue MORON!”

It’s a lot easier to use pejoratives than formulate an intelligent argument. The only “MORON” here is the mindless CP shill, namely, you.

And Lisa, putting aside absurd references to Osama bin Laden, would you like to tell me how tearing apart a child will remedy any of those situations?

Thanks for your the explanation. I am sure it isn’t a big deal to all the members and it may be a small number of people split on the issue. It was the intensity and rage that caught my attention when those people were arguing. They looked like they could literally kill each other. But, I guess they wouldn’t kill if they are pro-life.

Did you really think that your wife or daughter would want a baby if it was the result of a brutal attack and rape by someone like Osama bin laden or a child-molesting illegal alien??

Let God be the judge of her actions, not some group of politicans or judges.

A mother and husband would likely only resent the baby and it would be a daily reminder of the attack, thus the mother would have to re-live the rape all over every single day.

Is that in the best interest of anyone? The mother?, husband?, baby?, society??