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		<title>by: Citizens For A Better Veterans Home[s]</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/10/30/the-latest-on-nader-and-mckinney/#comment-319173</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>2000 Revisited, Oh to have had a Green, American Reform Party, Reform Party USA fusion:


by Matt Labash
11/05/2007, Volume 013, Issue 08

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New York/Miami
Being a skilled confidence man is both a blessing and a curse. If you truly excel at the long con, raising it to a form of art, marks will never know they've been taken. But if you become renowned for such artistry, when it is synonymous with your very name, people never believe you're off the grift, even when you're playing straight.

Such is the life of Roger Stone, political operative, Nixon-era dirty trickster, professional lord of mischief. It's hard to assume he's not up to something, because he always is. He once said of himself, &quot;If it rains, it was Stone.&quot; For that's the view most people take of him. Three years ago, everyone from the DNC's Terry McAuliffe to the leftwing blogosphere blamed him for leaking George W. Bush's forged Air National Guard records, the ones that looked like they would damn Bush, but ultimately blew up Dan Rather's career. It's preposterous, he says, a triple bank shot that no one could ever have conceived of. &quot;I get blamed for things I have nothing to do with,&quot; he says, somewhat wounded. But when asked about all the things he doesn't get blamed for that he does have something to do with, he thinks a bit, then shrugs. &quot;It does balance itself out,&quot; he says.

Naïfs might say he's a cancer on the body politic, everything that is wrong with today's system. But maybe he is just its purest distillation: Politics is war, and he is one of its fiercest warriors,
with the battle scars to prove it.

The first time I laid eyes on Roger Stone he was standing poolside at a press conference on the roof of the Hotel L'Ermitage in Beverly Hills. With a horseshoe pinkie ring refracting rays from the California sun and a gangster chalk-stripe suit that looked like it had been exhumed from the crypt of Frank Costello, Stone was there to help his friend and longtime client Donald Trump explore a Reform party presidential candidacy in 2000.

Actually, it was more complicated than that. After having recruited Pat Buchanan to seek the nod (&quot;You have to beat somebody,&quot; Stone says), he pushed Trump into the race. Trump relentlessly attacked Buchanan as having &quot;a love affair with Adolf Hitler,&quot; but ended up folding. A weakened Buchanan went on to help the Reform party implode, and Republicans suffered no real third-party threat, as they had in 1992, thus helping Stone accomplish his objective. If, in fact, that was his objective. These things are often hard to keep track of with Roger Stone.

Trump's short-lived campaign provided lots of memorable Stone moments. There was the scene on the roof, where Stone, a dandy by disposition who boasts of having not bought off-the-rack since he was 17--he's now 56--taught reporters how to achieve perfect double-dimples underneath their tie knots, while providing them hand sanitizers should they want to shake hands with the germophobe Trump. Then there were the hardball negotiations he drove backstage at the Tonight Show, where he promised access to the dressing room, but only if we refrained from &quot;making fun of Mr. Trump's hair&quot; in print.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>2000 Revisited, Oh to have had a Green, American Reform Party, Reform Party <span class="caps">USA</span> fusion:</p>
	<p>by Matt Labash<br />
11/05/2007, Volume 013, Issue 08</p>
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	<p>Respond to this article</p>
	<p>New York/Miami<br />
Being a skilled confidence man is both a blessing and a curse. If you truly excel at the long con, raising it to a form of art, marks will never know they&#8217;ve been taken. But if you become renowned for such artistry, when it is synonymous with your very name, people never believe you&#8217;re off the grift, even when you&#8217;re playing straight.</p>
	<p>Such is the life of Roger Stone, political operative, Nixon-era dirty trickster, professional lord of mischief. It&#8217;s hard to assume he&#8217;s not up to something, because he always is. He once said of himself, &#8220;If it rains, it was Stone.&#8221; For that&#8217;s the view most people take of him. Three years ago, everyone from the <span class="caps">DNC</span>&#8217;s Terry McAuliffe to the leftwing blogosphere blamed him for leaking George W. Bush&#8217;s forged Air National Guard records, the ones that looked like they would damn Bush, but ultimately blew up Dan Rather&#8217;s career. It&#8217;s preposterous, he says, a triple bank shot that no one could ever have conceived of. &#8220;I get blamed for things I have nothing to do with,&#8221; he says, somewhat wounded. But when asked about all the things he doesn&#8217;t get blamed for that he does have something to do with, he thinks a bit, then shrugs. &#8220;It does balance itself out,&#8221; he says.</p>
	<p>Na&#239;fs might say he&#8217;s a cancer on the body politic, everything that is wrong with today&#8217;s system. But maybe he is just its purest distillation: Politics is war, and he is one of its fiercest warriors,<br />
with the battle scars to prove it.</p>
	<p>The first time I laid eyes on Roger Stone he was standing poolside at a press conference on the roof of the Hotel L&#8217;Ermitage in Beverly Hills. With a horseshoe pinkie ring refracting rays from the California sun and a gangster chalk-stripe suit that looked like it had been exhumed from the crypt of Frank Costello, Stone was there to help his friend and longtime client Donald Trump explore a Reform party presidential candidacy in 2000.</p>
	<p>Actually, it was more complicated than that. After having recruited Pat Buchanan to seek the nod (&#8220;You have to beat somebody,&#8221; Stone says), he pushed Trump into the race. Trump relentlessly attacked Buchanan as having &#8220;a love affair with Adolf Hitler,&#8221; but ended up folding. A weakened Buchanan went on to help the Reform party implode, and Republicans suffered no real third-party threat, as they had in 1992, thus helping Stone accomplish his objective. If, in fact, that was his objective. These things are often hard to keep track of with Roger Stone.</p>
	<p>Trump&#8217;s short-lived campaign provided lots of memorable Stone moments. There was the scene on the roof, where Stone, a dandy by disposition who boasts of having not bought off-the-rack since he was 17&#8212;he&#8217;s now 56&#8212;taught reporters how to achieve perfect double-dimples underneath their tie knots, while providing them hand sanitizers should they want to shake hands with the germophobe Trump. Then there were the hardball negotiations he drove backstage at the Tonight Show, where he promised access to the dressing room, but only if we refrained from &#8220;making fun of Mr. Trump&#8217;s hair&#8221; in print.</p>
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		<title>by: Fred C.</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/10/30/the-latest-on-nader-and-mckinney/#comment-313796</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It's interesting how much fusion talk there is for the coming year, on the left, center &amp;#38; right equally.  I imagine that if a fusion candidate takes a sizable chunk out of one of the larger parties that we'll be seeing a ton of anti-fusion legislation in '09 :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s interesting how much fusion talk there is for the coming year, on the left, center &#038; right equally.  I imagine that if a fusion candidate takes a sizable chunk out of one of the larger parties that we&#8217;ll be seeing a ton of anti-fusion legislation in &#8216;09 :/</p>
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		<title>by: Eric Prindle</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2007/10/30/the-latest-on-nader-and-mckinney/#comment-313468</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Actually, the winner of the PFP primary is not guaranteed the party's ballot line. Although the PFP is a one-state party, its presidential primary is a &quot;beauty contest,&quot; and the actual nominee is chosen at a party convention. The nominee is often not the winner of the primary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Actually, the winner of the <span class="caps">PFP</span> primary is not guaranteed the party&#8217;s ballot line. Although the <span class="caps">PFP</span> is a one-state party, its presidential primary is a &#8220;beauty contest,&#8221; and the actual nominee is chosen at a party convention. The nominee is often not the winner of the primary.</p>
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