Bob Barr Not Running
To answer Austin’s question, Bob Barr doesn’t seem to have any intention to run for president this election cycle.
To answer Austin’s question, Bob Barr doesn’t seem to have any intention to run for president this election cycle.
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November 19th, 2007 at 1:50 pm
[...] When the rumors of a possible presidential bid by former Congressman Bob Barr surfaced, I tried to get someone to take a bet that he wouldn’t run. It’s a shame that no one took my bet, because Barr officially ain’t running. [...]
November 19th, 2007 at 2:04 pm
Neat… a mention on the Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s website.
November 19th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
This has given me a very interesting thought: I’ve been wondering the past couple months, “Who would be Ron Paul’s vice presidential running mate if he wins the Republican nomination?” Perhaps Bob Barr would be the perfect choice!
November 19th, 2007 at 5:53 pm
Bummer…
But he’s got a several months to change his mind.
November 19th, 2007 at 5:57 pm
Lou Dobbs says he isn’t going to run either.
November 19th, 2007 at 6:19 pm
No intention. Was Ron Paul quoted saying things like that last year before he filed to run?
November 19th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
OK Wes. Feel free to take me up on that hundred dollar bet. The offer’s still open.
November 19th, 2007 at 6:43 pm
Whew! Breathing a heavy sigh of relief as a Giuliani supporter. If Barr had run, it would have been hell on the Giuliani campaign in the general election. Actually, any strong LP ticket in 2008 will be damaging to the libertarian-leaning Giuliani.
Much better that the LP run a weak 2nd tier ticket like George Phillies or Steve Kubby.
November 19th, 2007 at 8:02 pm
Eric,
Not to worry—there won’t BE any Giuliani campaign in the general election.
November 19th, 2007 at 8:16 pm
Stephen,
While I appreciate your challenge to put up or why don’t I just shut up (via the $100 bet). It could be illegal, and in my opinion it would be inappropriate for me to bet even a beer on this.
But you changed the subject anyway.
Stephen, I’ll bet you a beer Ron Paul used the words “no intention” about running for president, before he ran for president. I could be wrong. I haven’t tried googling it yet.
November 19th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
Tom, who then, Ron Paul/RP? Eric is right in his own [NEVER AGAIN vote republican] way.
November 19th, 2007 at 8:28 pm
Wes,
I’d take you up on that, but I’d lose.
November 19th, 2007 at 9:17 pm
I hope Mr. Knapp is correct about Giuliani. My worst nightmare is the thought of a Giluiani presidency. This man is a authoritarian corporatist who is clueless. Anyone who has Norman Podhoretz as a foreign policy advisor is an idiot or psychotic – maybe both.
And please tell me Mr. Milnes, what does RP/RP really mean?
Is it necessary to have a Milnes decoder ring to read your posts?
November 19th, 2007 at 9:22 pm
Tom Blanton, Ron Paul/Republican Party. A Progressive Alliance ticket could beat Gaius Giuliani & Billary. But noooooooooooooooooooo…..!
November 19th, 2007 at 9:28 pm
“libertarian-leaning Giuliani.” I don’t check these parts out much these days. Is there some wildly hilarious inside joke here that I am missing?
This can’t be a serious remark, can it?
November 19th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
Bob,
You write:
“Tom, who then, Ron Paul/RP?”
I’ve already predicted that the GOP nominee for president in 2008 will be John McCain.
I suppose it’s just barely possible that Giuliani might tag in as VP, but I doubt it—I doubt he’d be asked, and I doubt he’d accept, even if he has any public credibility at all left when the time comes. I don’t expect him to win any primaries outside of New York and New Jersey, nor do I expect him to place better than third in most others.
I have a detailed list of my primary picks up on the libertarianrepublicans Yahoo group somewhere. Not that I’m usually that good at picking elections, but I did win the pool on that list, as well as a steak dinner from Eric, for last year’s congressional elections.
Tom Knapp
November 19th, 2007 at 11:02 pm
Back to the question of who would be Ron Paul’s vice presidential running mate, I think I figured out a potentially better person than Bob Barr:
A former congressman who just recently endorsed Ron Paul, who was a fellow congressman fighting with Dr. Paul for constitutionally limited government, the son of one of the last great libertarian-conservatives – Barry Goldwater Jr.
Imagine that a Paul/Goldwater ticket! That would get a lot of sleeping traditional conservatives, constitutionalists and libertarian-leaning republicans out to vote!
November 19th, 2007 at 11:03 pm
oops…forgot to include the link about Goldwater Jr. endorsing Dr. Paul:
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/45/ron-paul-endorsed-by-barry-goldwater-jr
November 23rd, 2007 at 10:29 am
Giuliani=Police State
Welcome to Giuliani’s police state: No public criticism of the Mayor allowed, no marches or demonstrations by groups the Mayor doesn’t like, no right to privacy on the streets, no information provided that might prove embarrassing to the Mayor, no monitoring of city policies by outside groups.
It’s important to remember the mind-set that devised these assaults on our freedoms because Giuliani is now seriously considering running for higher office—U.S. Senator or even President. America should beware a politician whose trademarks are controlling access to information and intimidating those who disagree with him.
Giuliani’s Police State
A recent example of Giuliani’s overkill is his response to an AIDS demonstration a few weeks ago. First, it took a federal court order before the city would grant a permit for several hundred demonstrators to march. Then the marchers were not allow to congregate on City Hall steps. Instead, the police forced them into spaces between concrete barricades, videotaped the proceedings, and positioned snipers armed with rifles on the roof of City Hall looking down on them. This is the sort of reaction we would expect of a third world dictator.
The barricades are just the latest evidence that Giuliani has allowed his official position to go to his head. There’s the suppression of public information, the harassment of street artists and vendors, and a fence around City Hall Park. He’s even banned playing stick ball in the streets!
Then there’s the city’s response to the numerous lawsuits brought to enforce the laws impartially or provide information that belongs in the public domain. Typically, Giuliani loses the case in court, appeals the decision, and continues his actions. His strategy is to wear down the opposition.
Last July, the city was forced to end an unevenly enforced ban on public gatherings on the steps of City Hall. Rather than comply with the court order, Giuliani decided that all gatherings on City Hall steps would be banned. In defiance of his edict, several members of the City Council held a meeting on the steps but weren’t arrested. Apparently even Giuliani saw how silly he’d look arresting Council members for gathering on the steps of City Hall.
The news media, nonprofits, and other public officials have had to go to court to pry loose data from the city. To evade having to disclose information, the city says it doesn’t collect data in several areas, including the tracking of former welfare recipients and the job progress of WEP workers. The idea is that the city can’t turn over information that it doesn’t have.
CSSNY
Keep in mind this article was written in 1999. Several years before the MOSSAD/CIA attack on NYC.
Giuliani’s unquenchable lust for power makes him the least fit candidate for president.
He’d take the state security apparatus that the Bush/Cheney cabal has instituted and make it even more draconian.
Giuliani is a ruthless despot that will have no qualms about shredding what is left of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
And being a draft dodger like Cheney—SIX deferments—means Giuliani will be another war monger serving up death and destruction to please his Zionist masters.
July 25th, 2008 at 8:53 am
you this red night joke deliver