Vito Vaccaro, Loyalist Party candidate for New York State Assembly in the 26th District

Vito Vaccaro

On December 1rst 2007, in the heart of N.Y. city, the Loyalist Party will take an important step towards realizing its political ambitions. The party will host a press conference announcing two important political campaigns that are at the heart of the new and revolutionary movement.

The conference will be announcing Loyalist Canididate Vito Vaccaro’s intention of running for a seat on the N.Y. state assembly in the 26th district for 2008. Vito’s announcement will launch the party’s first candidacy and will be an important step in setting the nationalist tone of party. The Loyalist party will also announce its New York City charter amendment. The amendment will be a historic first attempt to legally declassify Islam as a religion.

The event will also serve as a venue for other patriotic N.Y. groups such as the N.Y. chapter of the United American Committee (UAC). Guest speakers from both the Loyalist Party and partner organizations will be speaking and discussing common goals and future coalition building opportunities . . .

Read the rest at www.loyalistparty.com

47 Responses to “Vito Vaccaro, Loyalist Party candidate for New York State Assembly in the 26th District”

  1. matt Says:

    Screw this guy. The website looks like a nonfiction sendup of the government in the V for Vendetta movie. This guy is probably more fascist than the Phalangist Party, and that’s saying something.

  2. Rev. Pat Robertson Says:

    Their website calls themselves

    a party that is myopic in its effort to close our borders and stop Islam

    I like the sounds of that!

    After all, if the Libertarians are not going to stand up for true libertarian ideas like those, someone has to.

    As long as they don’t take votes away from Giuliani they are A-OK in my book.

    I hope they are forthright in calling for nuking Mecca.

  3. Brian Says:

    Anyone who has read William Shirer’s ‘The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich’ or who knows anything about the Weimar Republic has to be struck by the similarities between Germany after WWI and the U.S.A. now in regards to the growth of political parties.

    It seems like everyone wants to start a new party. There aren’t enough options in the 3rd party spectrum?

  4. Fred C. Says:

    “Anyone who has read William Shirer’s ‘The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich’ or who knows anything about the Weimar Republic has to be struck by the similarities between Germany after WWI and the U.S.A. now in regards to the growth of political parties.”

    When the smaller parties make significant headway into elected office, then we can start comparing ourselves with other multi-party countries. Until then, we seem more like the US throughout most of its history.

    “It seems like everyone wants to start a new party. There aren’t enough options in the 3rd party spectrum?”

    No, not really. There isn’t a home for everyone of every bent (at least not with ballot-access), as the big two have demonstrated with their “big tents” that include everyone that hates the other side. That, and the fact that most third parties most of the time run people with no experience in government nor allied trades (and so, no concrete reason to believe they could get anything done even if they did win). However, few ever think this of themselves when they get fed up enough to run or organize on their own initiative.

    The strategy all third parties should be working on is discrediting the two major parties to the point they disintegrate. After that, we’ll first have a ton of tiny-ass parties, rounding off to a few sizeable ones after everyone realizes they can’t win that way. Hopefully, the number doesn’t dwindle back to two….

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  6. Cody Quirk Says:

    Loyalist Party?

    Oh God, New York now has 17 Third Parties in that state, how many more do we need?!

  7. matt Says:

    I don’t know how many are needed, but I’m pretty sure this one isn’t needed. This guy is just ridiculous. He might actually be worse than the democrats and republicans he’s running against.

  8. Rev. Pat Robertson Says:

    I like Vito’s views. But he’s trying to look like General Zod a little too much in my opinion.

  9. Trent Hill Says:

    Check out the image behind “Our Platform”.

    Looks like something off of a Nazi flag…

  10. Sean Scallon Says:

    Wow, a genuine fascist party running for office. Considering all the commie parties that are out there, perhaps there should be a little balance.

    I agree, Vito should shave the gotee. He looks pretty scary.

  11. Cody Quirk Says:

    I don’t think our party would touch these guys with a ten foot poll.

  12. Cody Quirk Says:

    The logo is indeed fascistic, yet kinda stupid.

  13. Paul Wayne Snyder, PhD Says:

    Loyalist Party? Fascist symbolism?

    Look at the Roma Nazi Eagle on
    www.reformpartyusa-ag.org *
    of West Virginia, Maine and Pennsylvania

    • Heimnimein’s so cal “Action Group”
  14. Preston Says:

    These guys are great and all, but what about fascist Muslims? There is no fascist party for them!

  15. Firster555 Says:

    Amazing. Every third party listed here that talks about doing something in the foriegn policy arena concerning our Islamic enemies seem to blame the US foriegn policy for making them hate us. Some even go out of their way to say that there is nothing inherent in islam to make them hate us. Then people here have the nerve to call the Loyalist Party naive? I guess it was our foriegn policy that made the muslim Barbary pirates attack us?
    What was all that violence in Arabia, North Africa, India, Europe, etc. in Islams’ first 1,000 years all about ? I guess it must have been US foriegn policy that got them so mad and violent. This is where the Loyalist party is different. We have actually studied the Quran, Ahadith, Siras and Islamic history. We know the enemy, the first step in winning any battle.
    So fighting the most facist ideology in history makes us facist because part of a symbol resembles part of some other symbol. That’s deep.
    Cody, just curious, what party are you speaking of that has all those ten foot poles, Socialist? Communist?

  16. matt Says:

    They’re called Surahs, not Sirahs, mister fascist firster. They’re collections of sayings attributed to Mohamed by his followers. I think Islam is erroneous and that it’s epistemologically inferior to Christianity, but that’s WAY different than saying it should be suppressed.

    If you’re willing to chuck the first amendment just because you think somebody else’s ideology is “fascist”, then you yourself are fascist. You and bin Laden deserve each other.

  17. Trent Hill Says:

    “I guess it was our foriegn policy that made the muslim Barbary pirates attack us?
    What was all that violence in Arabia, North Africa, India, Europe, etc. in Islams’ first 1,000 years all about ? I guess it must have been US foriegn policy that got them so mad and violent. This is where the Loyalist party is different. We have actually studied the Quran, Ahadith, Siras and Islamic history. We know the enemy, the first step in winning any battle.
    So fighting the most facist ideology in history makes us facist because part of a symbol resembles part of some other symbol. That’s deep.”

    And what of the Crusades? The Inquisition? The South American Genocide by the Catholic Church? The killings of the Huguenots?
    Every religion, in its early stages—-has made serious mistakes. I would content that Christianity’s were worse than Islam. And that’s coming from a Christian, who has a parent that is a pastor.

  18. Eric Dondero's Mustache Says:

    Pat Robertson rocks. Way to support a baby killer!

  19. Firster555 Says:

    OK, here we go. First, the collection of sayings attributed to Mohammad and his followers are the Hadiths, or plural in Arabic, Ahadith. Suras are chapters in the Quran. Siras are the earliest written recorded biographies of the life of Muhammad.
    While yes, the Inquisition and the other violence you mentioned done in the name of Christianity is horrible and inexcusable, comparatively to Islam it would need to work it’s way up to miniscule.
    Also, the violence done in the name of Christianity is by men twisting the words of it’s scriptures. The violence done in the name of Islam is carried out according to the instructions of the Quran and Ahadith. Before someone says there is violence in the Bible also, remember, the bibles violence is descriptive while the Quran’s violence is instructive.
    As for the Crusades. Come on. This was an answer to over 400 years of Islamic violence and barbaric imperialism. Of course the Crusaders committed some atrocities, this unfortunetly always occurs in war, but they were pretty patient, waiting over 400 years to fight back. Hopefully we will not wait that long.
    Not to mention, while many Christians do condemn the Crusades, Inquisition, etc. where are all the muslims condemning all of the Islamic atrocities committed over the last 1,400 years.
    As for the first amendment. I don’t believe this covers treason and sedition. This is exactly what the ideology of Islam practices as the core of it’s doctrines call for it to overthrow all man made governments until all is for Allah and Islam is the only religion in the land. So sure, if suppressing a political ideology with a long record of violence that hides behind the freedoms they enjoy being classified as a religion in western civilized society and want to cover my daughter and wife in potato sacks and think they are worthy of being raped for the crime of being uncovered and want all Christians and Jews who will not convert to live no better than a dog depending on his master, and an evil one at that, and for those of other faiths who will not convert to just be slaughtered, and come into my city one morning killing thousands of my neighbors, including my friends and family members for the crime of going to work and trying to save people’s lives makes me a facist, then so be it.
    See, the idiotic name calling will not not make us go run and cower in fear.
    “Jihadists and stones will break my bones, but names will never harm me”

  20. Brian N. Says:

    There are so many falsehoods stated from Muslim apologists.

    But heres some info to wake you up. In the last 3 days, here is a list of people murdering in the name of Ala.

    11/29/2007 Thailand Pattani 1 A 58-year-old orchard worker is shot to death by radical Muslims.
    11/29/2007 Pakistan North Waziristan 5 Religious militants bomb a convoy, killing five local soldiers.
    11/28/2007 Thailand Narathiwat 1 Islamists shoot, stab, then nail a man to a wooden cross and leave on the road to die.
    11/28/2007 Chechnya Grozny 1 A local cop is gunned down by the Mujahideen.
    11/28/2007 Iraq Haditha 5 Jihadis lob mortars into a residential area, killing five civilians.
    11/28/2007 Thailand Narathiwat 2 Two Buddhist fishermen are abducted and brutally murdered by Islamic terrorists, who then cut off their heads.
    11/27/2007 Somalia Mogadishu 1 1Islamic militias gun down a vendor at a market.

    11/27/2007 Afghanistan Kabul 2 7 A suicide bomber kills two civilians walking along a road.
    11/26/2007 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Islamic terrorists shoot a civilian off his motorcycle, then walk over and put a bullet in his head.
    11/26/2007 Thailand Yala 1 0 A 54-year-old man is murdered by Muslim terrorists on his way to work.
    11/26/2007 Afghanistan Paktia 4 2 Religious extremists kill four Afghans with a roadside bomb.
    11/26/2007 Iraq Mosul 4 2 Jihadis murder four people. A woman is also gunned down in Basra.
    11/26/2007 Somalia Mataban 6 0 Six civilians are killed when Islamic militias attack Ethiopian troops in a populated area.
    11/26/2007 Afghanistan Kabul 4 0 Four civilians are killed by a bomb planted by religious extremists.

    If you are dumb enough to think that each one of these is because of our zionist foreign policy, then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

    Is it just a coincidence that 99% of religious killings are done in the name of Ala, and not in the name of Budha, Jesus, Shiva, etc? Maybe its just because a lot of those countries are so damn hot.

    Read the last half of the Koran, and you will be shocked that something this insanely violent and fascist is beleived to be the word of god by 20% of the world’s population.

  21. Trent Hill Says:

    “While yes, the Inquisition and the other violence you mentioned done in the name of Christianity is horrible and inexcusable, comparatively to Islam it would need to work it’s way up to miniscule.”

    Excuse me? No.
    Islam is JUST starting to catch up. The Muslims have genocide under their belt. So do we Christians. The Muslims have terrorism under their belt, so do we Christians (albeit,less—but we’ve got more genocide). We’ve got FAR more oppression in our history.
    You realize a “Christian” killed 6 million jews right? He did so under the guise of Roman Catholocism (although he would later admit he was athiest, he leveraged this by using Christianity). Basically the entire indigenous populations of North America and Central America were eradicated or forcefully converted by Christians.

    “If you are dumb enough to think that each one of these is because of our zionist foreign policy, then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.”

    As for this—it proves my point actually. First of all, I never mentioned anything about zionism. The reason muslim terrorists attack countries is because they believe they are being oppressed/occupied.
    Where did all these attacks happen? Let’s take a look.
    Thailand – The Pattani Region has a massive seperatist movement.
    Pakistan – There is a large disput between the Waziristan clans and the Pakistani government. This conflict is largely non-religious, the Tribes simply prefer to be autonomous.
    Chechnya – Occupied by Russia
    Iraq – Occupied by US, or “occupied” by opposing ethnic/religious group.
    Somolia – Please, Mogadishu has been broiled in civil war for years. Also, Ethiopia/Eritrea’s involvement in not welcome, but still happens often.
    Afghanistan – Occupied by US

    Now,let me show YOU something.
    Aryan Nations, KKK, Christian Identity, Timothy McVeigh, David Koresh, National Liberation Front of Tripura (NE India), the Poso Christian Terrorist Group (Indonesia), Freedomites (Canada), Lord’s Resistance Army, God’s Army (Myanmar).

    Also, see anti-abortionists Christian Terrorists like Paul Hill, David McMenemy, Clayton Waagner, Eric Rudolph, Michael Bray, Stephen Jordi, The Lambs of Christ.

    And our Religion is 400 years more mature,and claims to be more intelligent and sophisticated.

  22. matt Says:

    Do you have a copy of the constitution up there in Queens? It might prove more enlightening than the latest Ann Coulter book you apparently read and took to heart.

    The First Amendment prohibits pretty much everything you want to do in regards to Islam, so stick it in your ass. Your party is a hate group.

    No, you won’t change my mind with any more accounts of “muslim crimes” or any more Arabic terms (you were right and I wrong about that actually, but my larger point stands). Crime is already illegal, and people who commit crimes already run the risk of punishment. I can’t believe you want to suppress someone’s religion.

  23. Dan Says:

    “The First Amendment prohibits pretty much everything you want to do in regards to Islam, so stick it in your ass. Your party is a hate group.”

    The first Amendment pertains to legitimate religion, not Death Cults and Hostile Political Movements, which is what Islamic fascism is. Islamic fascism is a enemy to this nation, posing as a religion. Or did you sleep in on Sept 11th 2001 and miss the whole thing? Islam in this country is a foreign enemy element in our midst during wartime.

  24. Brian N. Says:

    Islam is NOT a religion. Its a political movement maquerading as a religion. Sorta like Nazism, but less tolerant.

    We don’t want to outlaw a form of expression, we just want to make it Islam on the same level as Nazism, which is where it deserves to be.

    The genocide of Jews by the nazis was not done in the name of Jesus. It was done in the name of Hitler (Who by the time it started, had already outlawed Christmas, and Christian symbols such as the cross.). He and Dr Goebbels wanted to erase Christianity from the earth and replace it with a Pagan germanic religion.

    I don’t expect the retards who have apologized for Islam to understand this, because they are completely ignorant of history, which is why they will continue to be tolerant of Islam, as many Europeans were tolerant of Nazism in the 30’s

    Brian

  25. Trent Hill Says:

    “Islam is NOT a religion. Its a political movement maquerading as a religion. Sorta like Nazism, but less tolerant.”

    ....wow. Then how do you explain the Minaret of Freedom Institute? Which is a libertarian muslim think tank? How do you explain the thousands upon thousands of Muslims who have condemned the 9/11 attacks and any form of terrorism. It’s amazing how you group people together in “us vs. them” groups.
    Furthermore, i’d like to see how you reconcile the 1st amendment with your anti-Muslim issues.

  26. matt Says:

    Yeah, let’s not talk about Islam anymore. Let’s talk about the 1st amendment. As in, why does the Loyalist Party reject the establishment clasue and do they reject the rest of it as well?

  27. Firster555 Says:

    Genocides? How about the Hindus of India, biggest genocide in the history of mankind, Armenia, Greece, etc. not to mention quite a few Jews also, all thanks to our friendly muslims.
    OK, lets add up the death tolls of the Christian terrorists you have listed compared to say, Hamas, h
    Hezbollah, Muslim brotherhood, Asq-martyrs brigade, Plo, al-Quedia, Islamic brotherhood, Black September, al-Sayef,Nation of Islam. That will be enough for now. There are plenty more.
    Again, the point is that, yes, there are those committing terrorism in the name of Christianity but it can easily be proven that this is not in sync with the Christian doctrines where as islamic terrorism can easily show how it is demanded by islamic doctrines.
    Isn’t it so convienent to commit mass murders in the name of islam and call it separtist movements. Hey, those indigenous people of the America’s was not genocide, it was European separtists. See how easy that is.How do I explain the so called libertarian muslim groups? Easy, al-taqiyya.
    I am sure you have heard of it?
    Just for clarifacation of one of the big pc lies, Timothy McVeigh was an athiest anarchist, not a Christian fundamentalist as he is described in the media. And he got what he deserved, even if he were a Christian fundamentalist in the scope of what you fantasize them to be.
    As for the establishment clause. We do not reject it, we support it more than anyone else. The clause, which actually does not exist, it is made up twisting the words of the constitution, so we will stick with what the actual constitution calls for. That is that no particular religion can be established as the religion of the government and/or of all the peoples. This is exactly what islam attains to as the very words of the quran call for no separation between government and religious law as long as that religion is islam.
    So, if islam is a religion, their very doctrines are in direct contrast with our constitution. If they are not a religion as understood by our western culture, which we believe they are not, then in calling for their laws to replace ours they are not only a political movement but an enemy one at that.
    Stick it up your ass huh, real intelligent. Not that it matters but I have read the constitution, numerous times, also the state constitution and city charter, and yes, I have read Ann Coulter, but no, I have not read her latest book. I have also read I am sure a few of the Chomsky and Moore books you have read. Also the quran, in four differnt translations, ahadiths, siras, six different histories of the Middle East. Also the second most popular book in the Middle East, Mein Kampf, as well as the Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital. Also the Hindu Veda and Bhagivad Gita and even Dianetics. I can give you a library of what I have read, and not just one side of an issue. Unlike some people, we don’t only read what we want to hear, we read for knowledge.
    As for those “accounts of muslim crimes”. I breathed in the air of one of those “accounts of muslim crimes”. I went to the funerals of those “accounts of muslim crimes”. I saw my kids childhood innocence get shattered way to young seeing family members and a beloved sports coach and classmates parents as victims of those “accounts of muslim crimes”.
    Yes, we have a copy of the constitution up in Queens. You know what else we have? Memorials all over of people who were murdered by those “accounts of muslim crimes”. An entirely changed way of life, and mostly not for the better, due to “accounts of muslim crimes”. Worrying every day about your kids being blown up on a subway due to those “accounts of muslim crimes”.
    The Loyalist party a hate party, please. The party is mainly in existence to help expose the greatest hate ideology of history, islam.
    Do I personally hate islam, YES!They came into my home, killed my family, killed my friends, danced in the streets to celebrate this, then tell me I have to be nice to them and accept them for what they are. You and they can stick that in your asses.
    Now, if you want to debate intelligently, we can begin. If you want to get all boisterous defending an ideology that wants you just as dead as me(unless you are one of them, are you?)well then you can commence with sticking things places.

  28. Trent Hill Says:

    “Hezbollah, Muslim brotherhood, Asq-martyrs brigade, Plo, al-Quedia, Islamic brotherhood, Black September, al-Sayef,Nation of Islam.”

    Islam is 600 years younger than Christianity. Go back 600 years, and you’ll find 4 times more death at the hands of Christian “advocacy groups”, crusaders, Christian monarchs, and the likes.

    “Again, the point is that, yes, there are those committing terrorism in the name of Christianity but it can easily be proven that this is not in sync with the Christian doctrines where as islamic terrorism can easily show how it is demanded by islamic doctrines.”
    They are religions, which are largely up to interpretation. No one gets to decide which preaches hate,and which one don’t. You are an anti-muslim bigot. I am against muslim extremists, and against islamic fundamentalists. But no more than I oppose Christian extremists or Hindu fundamentalists. You,however, want to eliminate free speech for Muslims. That makes you, not only incredibly unconstitutional, but also incredibly bigoted and most like fascist.

    As for your excuse of the Minaret of Freedom Institute, you invoke “al-taqiyya” as the reason. Which makes no sense, as the leaders of this Institute are not in any danger. Al-taqiyya is “Concealing or disguising one’s beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies at a time of imminent danger, whether now or later in time, to save oneself from physical and/or mental injury.”
    The leaders of this Institute are in no danger physically or mentally. So that’s a bullshit excuse—sorry, find something else. The fact is, these men are simply brave muslims who have decided to oppose the Muslim Fundamentalists,and they should be encouraged (not have their 1st amendmnt revoked).

    “then in calling for their laws to replace ours they are not only a political movement but an enemy one at that.”
    So—replacing laws is synanamous with treason eh? Anarchists want to scrap the Constitution, liberals already have, Bush would rather it didn’t exist. Are these people all treasonous too? (Ohk,remove Bush—thats too easy).

    As for your spiel about how much you’ve read. Whoopty-freaking-doo. I’ve had to read a lot of that just because of college. Outside of that, most of the people on this board have read massive volumes by Anarchists, Libertarians, Constitutionalists, Old Rightists, and Founding Fathers.
    As for Chomsky—I hate the bastard.

  29. matt Says:

    Firster still isn’t talking about the 1st amendment. Trent is refuting him nicely, but I still cannot get over the idea that these people honestly think the presence of Muslims trumps the Constitution.

  30. Firster555 Says:

    Go back 600 years and find more death at the hands of Christians, wow, you are missing quite a bit of muslim mayhem there.I never said the Christians were angels, just not in the same league as islam and most importantly, the difference is in how the violence correlates with the doctrine itself.
    Yes, I am also against muslim extremists and fundamentalists, that is those that truly follow what is in their doctrines. Those who do not are not only considered not true muslims by myself, but by many of their fellow muslims.
    Actually I would support a Christian extremist or Hindu fundamentalist, they would be pretty peaceful people. I would not support those being the originator of violence in the name of those religions because they would be getting it wrong.
    I do not want to eliminate free speech for anyone. I just want their free speech to stop hiding behind the protections of a religion so my free speech opposing them does not automatically label me as a bigot.
    No, I do not hate all muslims, I will not lie, yes, I do hate some, I also hate some people of other faiths, hey, I am only human, I do feel hate, but what I do hate is isalm. As Jesus said, hate the sin, not the sinner. Islam itself is the sin.
    If the minaret of freedom institute members are in no danger than why are they so brave in speaking out? Nothing brave in saying something that noboby is concerned about, now is there? Most apostates do not fare to well in islam, do they? If as a Christian I got together with a bunch of other Christians and attacked so called Christian fundamentalists, verbally, does that make me brave. Of course not, because I would be in no danger. Al-taqiyya is also used if it is for the advancement of islam or to temporarily settle an arguement.
    They want to replace our laws with ones that are totally opposite to everything ours are. They also have no problems with using violence to do so. Even if they did this by such peaceful measures as putting their members in political office and then carrying out wishes, plans, whatever you want to call them, of those rallying sharia law, this is aiding and abetting the enemy, which is treason. An oath is taken to defend the constitution, not overthrow it.
    I do apologize for listing anything that I have read. I do not like to go around boasting of such things. It was just necessary to respond to the quote with the insinuation that anyone who disagrees with your views must be some brain dead bot recieving their marching orders from the likes of Ann Coulter. Hey, I hate Chomsky too, I knew eventually we could agree on something.
    Not a big fan of Anarchists, liberals or Bush either.
    Matt, I am not talking about the first amendment? I guess you did not read my whole post. Muslims who want to replace the Constitution with sharia law do more than trump it. So yes, the presence of any muslim that wants the constitution replaced with sharia need to be confronted.

  31. Cody Quirk Says:

    The Constitution Party, the largest third party (by voters) in America, won’t give you the time of day.

    While I have reservations about Muslims myself. The Loyalist Party’s stance contredicts the 1st Amendment and the “no religious test” part of Article 6. And I don’t like your symbol.

    It look stupid.

    Jeeze, why don’t you just go with the Christian Falangist Party, or have you already allied with them?

    BTW Trent is right, every religion has it’s deranged fringe. Even with athiesm, Communism, or marxism, is probably athiesm on steroids. Few religions in the world are innocent of being the persecutor at one time. And the fact that you wouldn’t have a problem with support a christian extremist for Prez. pretty much kills any kind of sympathy I have towards you.

    “So, if islam is a religion, their very doctrines are in direct contrast with our constitution.”

    Interesting that people in the 18th & 19th Centuries we’re saying the exact same thing about the Catholic Church.

    Heck, personally, I think only the LDS Church’s view on government is the one most constitutionally sound. But other church still got their 1st Amendment right, even if they’re rabid Calvinists.

    So if you think your party is getting anywhere, then forget it. You guys won’t even be a blip on the rader next year.

  32. matt Says:

    Firster,
    You might not be talking about the first amendment, but the first amendment is talking about you. It’s saying that you’re a totalitarian who doesn’t understand the Establishment clause.

    Hypothetical Muslim attempts to replace the constitution with Sharia will be sternly rebuffed, and so will your attempts to ignore the Establishment clause.

    Islam is problematic, but suppressing a religion is far more problematic, and, more importantly, far more illegal.

  33. Cody Quirk Says:

    It’s saying that you’re a totalitarian who doesn’t understand the Establishment clause.

    Matt, I think that this guy is a Falangist. The idealogy matches completely.

  34. matt Says:

    I went to the Falangist website, and they didn’t quite this creepy. Maybe I’m just biased towards Lebanese Christians and against people from Queens, but this guy does seem a little worse even than the Falangists.

  35. matt Says:

    I went to the Falangist website, and they didn’t look quite this creepy. Maybe I’m just biased towards Lebanese Christians and against people from Queens, but this guy does seem a little worse even than the Falangists.

  36. Brian N. Says:

    Just as a sidenote. Were not a Christian group. Techinically Christians are underrepresented. Last poll I did, they accounted for about 3/4 of our membership. We are obviously over-represented with Jewish people and slightly overrepresented with Hindus.

    Vito, although a christian, is fluent in Hebrew and is a member of various Jewish groups.

    We even have a couple athiests (Although they are definetely underrepresented)

    Also, I beleive the Falangists don’t even have an actual candidate.

    I am the chair, and am a secular Jew myself. (Well, 3/4 jew).

    Its not about Judaism, christianity, etc. Its about having an understanding that Islam is unique in its teachings of holy war and jihad, and waking up to its evil. If thats not a priority to you, or if you beleive that Islam is just another religion to be tolerated, then vote for someone else.

    Brian

  37. Cody Quirk Says:

    So let me guess, your non-christian base probably includes people from the JDL and other Jewish ultra-orthodox groups, and a few anti-Muslim Hindus?

  38. Cody Quirk Says:

    The Falangists don’t need to run a candidate, they got you guys.

    And if I want to combat terrorism, I’d secure the borders and kick out anybody with any ties to foreign terrorist groups, Muslim or not.

    Focusing on supressing a single religion is just plain unconstitutional and irrational; it’ll only give that religion more sympathy and political ammunition.

  39. matt Says:

    Agreed, Cody.

    The Loyalist Party combines constitutional naivete with inbred hatred for other religions. Screw them.

    If I were the pastor of a church, and I knew that members of my church were also members of a klan-esque hate group like the loyalists, I’d have a talk with them and probably start proceedings to excommunicate them. Such attacks on religious freedom are anti-Christian as well as unconstitutional.

  40. Joe Says:

    I think parties do better when they define themselves according to what they are for, rather than only what they are against.

  41. ftf Says:

    You say that suppressing a religion in any way is illegal, what happens when the religion in question has religious texts such as the following: Quran, Surah 8, Ayah 38-39:

    “Say to the Unbelievers, if (now) they desist (from Unbelief), their past would be forgiven them; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them). And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do.””

  42. Cody Quirk Says:

    I think parties do better when they define themselves according to what they are for, rather than only what they are against.

    =At least they’re being honest in their views, that way I’ll know who to vote, and NOT vote for.

  43. Cody Quirk Says:

    “You say that suppressing a religion in any way is illegal, what happens when the religion in question has religious texts…”

    =First off, you militarize the borders and deport ANYbody that advocates violence against the US. It’s that f**king simple.

    Second off, not all Muslims are terrorists or fanatics. Some interpret the Koran in a manner that would match a Unitarian’s interpretation of the Holy Bible. FYI such Muslims are also seen in the same light as Americans and also are targeted by terrorists.

    Yet you want to go after all Muslims here- that’s what makes you no better then the Nazis.

    So when it comes to knowledge and adherence to our Constitution and Religious Liberty- YOU GUYS REALLY SUCK!!

  44. Cody Quirk Says:

    FYI, the Bible calls for stoning adulterers and punishing non-believers, yet you don’t seem to have a problem with that, unlike the Koran.

  45. Trent Hill Says:

    Cody beat me to it. The Bible calls for doing all manner of ugly things to non-believers.

    Get over it Loyalist Party. The only thing you’re loyal to—are the principles of Mein Kampf, applied to Muslims instead of Jews.

  46. Dale Says:

    I don’t understand the arguing. If you are an american who values freedom and is tired of making changes for and bowing down to all of the people pouring into this country (claiming they want to be americans to) but actually don’t care once there in, then whats the problem ? Kick em out Do you think you can go to any other country and complain about their traditions and beleifs and get them to change for you ? What ever happened to learning english ? Don’t say christmas,don’‘t say the pledge of allegiance,don’t pray in school for fear of insulting someone.To bad,if you don’t like the way we live don’t come here.Islam is dangerous You people need to stop arguing and try voting for people who care about this country and want to save it and preserve our forefathers beleifs,the things we learned in school ! Take a look at what is going on around the world and in this country,take a good look at europe, and ask the politicians whats going on ? Close the borders,send everyone back,if you want in do it right,learn english become a hard working contributing citizen instead of the burdens that you are..I for one am tired of paying for their welfare,hospitalization etc. I’ve been working all my life and contributing so why should immigrants be getting handouts from my hard work ? It never ends,Bush and the rest of them bow down to everyone,i think the only reason they let the immigrants stay is for the votes.That’s not what you call caring for the country.I do however agree that Iran should not have nukes.I’m didin’t want to turn this into a rant but i’m begining to so I will end by saying that we as a country are headed for trouble and if the people in office arent taking care of us then we need to replace them (loyalist party for me).Hey afterall,islam is making it’s way into our government,how long are you going to wait before you can’t do anything but what your told ??? WAKE UP AND TAKE A LOOK AT VITO VACCARO AND PEOPLE LIKE HIM,WE NEED PEOPLE WHO ARENT AFRAID TO SPEAK THEIR MINDS AND IF THAT OFFENDS SOMEONE THEN THAT’‘S TO BAD ! One more thing,everyone is arguing about the history of islam & muslims etc but the only thing you need to know about the history is that it has not changed,they still want us dead and the borders are still overflowing with people who won’t or cant fight for this country.,

  47. Marcus Says:

    Ive read that Vito is a member/associated with the JTF, a racist, terrorist Jewish group in Queens.

    So the whole thing about the Loyalists fighting terrorism is a sham.

    Judaism is a Mental Disorder.

    If you want to understand the Middle East and the “War on Terror” you must accept this one true fact.

    Jews have brought death and destruction wherever they have gone. Not a nation that has allowed Jews in has been able to avoid misery.

    It was true for Germany. It was true for Palestine. It is true for America.

    Fight the Jews and their useful idiots like the Loyalist Party.

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