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		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-668241</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: paulie</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-427797</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-427797</guid>
					<description>Ron Paul himself broaches the possibility of election fraud:

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January 10, 2008


Did you see that funny YouTube where Mike Huckabee's young Iowa spokesman endorsed me, &quot;by mistake&quot;? We know what was in his mind! Indeed, I am amazed at the friendliness of the supporters of other candidates. Many
Obama voters, for example, in Iowa and New Hampshire are reading our literature, and studying our ideas. It's just one of the reasons I am so optimistic about what we are doing, and where we are heading. And so were the
500 or 600 people at our New Hampshire rally after the primary. I talked to everyone there, and they are rightly enthusiastic about our movement.

This does not mean we will have an easy time of it -- just the opposite, of course. After all, we are seeking to reverse more than a century of big government, of the warfare-welfare state, of Federal Reserve's dollar
manipulation, of a fat and happy military-industrial complex, of the subversion of our Constitution. So all the media and other &quot;second-hand dealers in ideas,&quot; as F.A. Hayek called them, who have a vested interest in the current order, will do everything possible to smear me. They will do and say anything to try to block our movement. Even vote fraud is not beyond these people.

And we have been successful. This movement has always operated on two tracks -- intellectual and political, and must. The first and most important is the intellectual. Such heroes of freedom as Ludwig von Mises, Hayek, Henry Hazlitt, Murray Rothbard, and so many others like Rose Wilder Lane, John T. Flynn, Isabel Patterson, and Garret Garrett, have helped build the foundations of freedom, prosperity, and peace. We carry on their work, to change hearts and minds.

The other track is political. Here too, we have touched millions with our ideas, and recruited many, many thousands -- not only in Meetup Groups and as voters, but as sympathizers and future voters too. Walter Block
was kind enough to call this effort the most important in the long history of libertarianism. I don't know about that, but I do know that even if we place a solid fourth, rather than the higher place we all want and are working so hard
for, that is huge progress.

But we can never forget that this is a long struggle. Many great men and women have lived and died in this cause. I have been deeply involved in it all my life. It is a matter of educational work, and elections. We may not accomplish all we want, in one or even two elections. But we will accomplish it. Young people now living will see the free society that you and I dream of, as their everyday reality, an America at peace, prosperous and free, with the federal government chained down y the Constitution, as Jefferson said.

Does this mean our campaign has done everything right? No! We have made mistakes, and will make them again. Not only because errors are to be found in any human endeavor, but because an effort like this, to repeal a hundred years and more of evil, is brand-new on the face of the earth. But now is the time to stick together like the brothers and sisters we are, to stand side by side in this fight against the media toadies, warmongers, and Wall Street rip-off artists who stand against us, and who always remind me of Tolkein's Orcs.

If you have suggestions for me to do better, I want to hear them. But beating back the enemy, teaching so many young people and others about liberty, that is our victory, and it is real and permanent. Won't you link arms with me? We will have more vote victories too, if we stick together and do not let the enemy divide us.

As you know, and as our neocon enemies try to cover up, we are in a financial crisis. It may chug along at this pace, slowly into recession, or it might drop off a cliff, like the dollar. In that case, we will have the only coherent solution, and we must get our message out.

All my life, I've been working to make sure that when the Fed had done its work, and the special interests had looted the system to their hearts' content, and there was a crisis, I would be in a position to speak the truth about why, and what to do about it. In this fight, I need your heart, your mind, your time, and your financial support. I also need you to become a precinct leader https://voters.ronpaul2008.com/grassroots/ . What a fight we are in. What stakes there are. Together, we can build a new America faithful to the values of the framers. Bother the enemy, help the good cause: make your most generous contribution https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/, and let's roll up our sleeves and get to work, together.

Sincerely,

Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ron Paul himself broaches the possibility of election fraud:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
	<p>January 10, 2008</p>
	<p>Did you see that funny YouTube where Mike Huckabee&#8217;s young Iowa spokesman endorsed me, &#8220;by mistake&#8221;? We know what was in his mind! Indeed, I am amazed at the friendliness of the supporters of other candidates. Many<br />
Obama voters, for example, in Iowa and New Hampshire are reading our literature, and studying our ideas. It&#8217;s just one of the reasons I am so optimistic about what we are doing, and where we are heading. And so were the<br />
500 or 600 people at our New Hampshire rally after the primary. I talked to everyone there, and they are rightly enthusiastic about our movement.</p>
	<p>This does not mean we will have an easy time of it&#8212;just the opposite, of course. After all, we are seeking to reverse more than a century of big government, of the warfare-welfare state, of Federal Reserve&#8217;s dollar<br />
manipulation, of a fat and happy military-industrial complex, of the subversion of our Constitution. So all the media and other &#8220;second-hand dealers in ideas,&#8221; as F.A. Hayek called them, who have a vested interest in the current order, will do everything possible to smear me. They will do and say anything to try to block our movement. Even vote fraud is not beyond these people.</p>
	<p>And we have been successful. This movement has always operated on two tracks&#8212;intellectual and political, and must. The first and most important is the intellectual. Such heroes of freedom as Ludwig von Mises, Hayek, Henry Hazlitt, Murray Rothbard, and so many others like Rose Wilder Lane, John T. Flynn, Isabel Patterson, and Garret Garrett, have helped build the foundations of freedom, prosperity, and peace. We carry on their work, to change hearts and minds.</p>
	<p>The other track is political. Here too, we have touched millions with our ideas, and recruited many, many thousands&#8212;not only in Meetup Groups and as voters, but as sympathizers and future voters too. Walter Block<br />
was kind enough to call this effort the most important in the long history of libertarianism. I don&#8217;t know about that, but I do know that even if we place a solid fourth, rather than the higher place we all want and are working so hard<br />
for, that is huge progress.</p>
	<p>But we can never forget that this is a long struggle. Many great men and women have lived and died in this cause. I have been deeply involved in it all my life. It is a matter of educational work, and elections. We may not accomplish all we want, in one or even two elections. But we will accomplish it. Young people now living will see the free society that you and I dream of, as their everyday reality, an America at peace, prosperous and free, with the federal government chained down y the Constitution, as Jefferson said.</p>
	<p>Does this mean our campaign has done everything right? No! We have made mistakes, and will make them again. Not only because errors are to be found in any human endeavor, but because an effort like this, to repeal a hundred years and more of evil, is brand-new on the face of the earth. But now is the time to stick together like the brothers and sisters we are, to stand side by side in this fight against the media toadies, warmongers, and Wall Street rip-off artists who stand against us, and who always remind me of Tolkein&#8217;s Orcs.</p>
	<p>If you have suggestions for me to do better, I want to hear them. But beating back the enemy, teaching so many young people and others about liberty, that is our victory, and it is real and permanent. Won&#8217;t you link arms with me? We will have more vote victories too, if we stick together and do not let the enemy divide us.</p>
	<p>As you know, and as our neocon enemies try to cover up, we are in a financial crisis. It may chug along at this pace, slowly into recession, or it might drop off a cliff, like the dollar. In that case, we will have the only coherent solution, and we must get our message out.</p>
	<p>All my life, I&#8217;ve been working to make sure that when the Fed had done its work, and the special interests had looted the system to their hearts&#8217; content, and there was a crisis, I would be in a position to speak the truth about why, and what to do about it. In this fight, I need your heart, your mind, your time, and your financial support. I also need you to become a precinct leader <a href='https://voters.ronpaul2008.com/grassroots/' rel='nofollow'>https://voters.ronpaul2008.com/grassroots/</a> . What a fight we are in. What stakes there are. Together, we can build a new America faithful to the values of the framers. Bother the enemy, help the good cause: make your most generous contribution <a href='https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/' rel='nofollow'>https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/</a>, and let&#8217;s roll up our sleeves and get to work, together.</p>
	<p>Sincerely,</p>
	<p>Ron</p>
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		<title>by: Mick Russom</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-427277</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-427277</guid>
					<description>Amazing how well Ron does even in a rigged election!</description>
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		<title>by: Derek</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-426819</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Paul should focus on the following contests by doing the following:

- Run ads on the most important issue in the state: Paul ran ads on immigration in NH (which could've possibly been the cause he didn't break into double digits). SC is going to focus on immigration and so is FL. 

- Play with the system: In some states, you can get delegates if you get a certain % of the state vote, win a Congressional District (or in the case of CDs that allocate delegates proportionally, if you come in 1st or 2nd, maybe 3rd but depends on state's rules) or in the caucus. SC and FL are states that allocate some delegates by CD and if he focuses on a CD or two, he could win there and get delegates (even if he doesn't finish in the top 3 statewide). MI allocates some delegates statewide by % and others by CD. If Paul can focus on getting at least 10% in MI statewide, he can get delegates. 

Keep on fighting, Paul!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Paul should focus on the following contests by doing the following:</p>
	<p> &#8211; Run ads on the most important issue in the state: Paul ran ads on immigration in <span class="caps">NH </span>(which could&#8217;ve possibly been the cause he didn&#8217;t break into double digits). SC is going to focus on immigration and so is FL.<br />
 &#8211; Play with the system: In some states, you can get delegates if you get a certain % of the state vote, win a Congressional District (or in the case of CDs that allocate delegates proportionally, if you come in 1st or 2nd, maybe 3rd but depends on state&#8217;s rules) or in the caucus. SC and FL are states that allocate some delegates by CD and if he focuses on a CD or two, he could win there and get delegates (even if he doesn&#8217;t finish in the top 3 statewide). MI allocates some delegates statewide by % and others by CD. If Paul can focus on getting at least 10% in MI statewide, he can get delegates.</p>
	<p>Keep on fighting, Paul!</p>
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		<title>by: paul</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-426721</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 04:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-426721</guid>
					<description>http://www.countthevotes.org

Online Count the Votes Petition</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><a href='http://www.countthevotes.org' rel='nofollow'>http://www.countthevotes.org</a></p>
	<p>Online Count the Votes Petition</p>
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		<title>by: paul</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-426718</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 04:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:43 AM
Subject: [taxcore] FW: [infowarsnews] Paul Campaign Manager Urges Boycott Of Fox News Sponsors

Paul Campaign Manager Urges Boycott Of Fox News Sponsors

Snyder slams decision to exclude Congessman from presidential forum as &quot;insult, slap in the face&quot;

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Thursday, January 3, 2008

Ron Paul's 2008 presidential campaign manager Kent Snyder has slammed Fox News' decision to bar the Congressman from a live televised January 6 forum as &quot;an insult&quot; and has urged supporters to boycott Fox sponsors if they follow through on their promise to exclude Dr. Paul.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/010308_urges_boycott.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:43 AM<br />
Subject: [taxcore] FW: [infowarsnews] Paul Campaign Manager Urges Boycott Of Fox News Sponsors</p>
	<p>Paul Campaign Manager Urges Boycott Of Fox News Sponsors</p>
	<p>Snyder slams decision to exclude Congessman from presidential forum as &#8220;insult, slap in the face&#8221;</p>
	<p>Paul Joseph Watson<br />
Prison Planet<br />
Thursday, January 3, 2008</p>
	<p>Ron Paul&#8217;s 2008 presidential campaign manager Kent Snyder has slammed Fox News&#8217; decision to bar the Congressman from a live televised January 6 forum as &#8220;an insult&#8221; and has urged supporters to boycott Fox sponsors if they follow through on their promise to exclude Dr. Paul.</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/010308_urges_boycott.htm' rel='nofollow'>http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/010308_urges_boycott.htm</a></p>
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		<title>by: paul</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-426670</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-426670</guid>
					<description>http://www.ronpaulvotecount.com

and

http://watchthevote2008.com

pass it on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><a href='http://www.ronpaulvotecount.com' rel='nofollow'>http://www.ronpaulvotecount.com</a></p>
	<p>and</p>
	<p><a href='http://watchthevote2008.com' rel='nofollow'>http://watchthevote2008.com</a></p>
	<p>pass it on!</p>
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		<title>by: paul</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-426668</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-426668</guid>
					<description>Anyone have a theory why every single town where a hand count was done had Ron Paul in double digits?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Anyone have a theory why every single town where a hand count was done had Ron Paul in double digits?</p>
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		<title>by: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-426631</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 02:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-426631</guid>
					<description>Lack of movers is no excuse. I'm sure the FSP people voted for Paul. The point is, the state was supposed to be more libertarian-leaning to begin with. Obviously, it is LESS SO THAN THE WELFARE CAPITAL OF THE MIDWEST, Iowa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Lack of movers is no excuse. I&#8217;m sure the <span class="caps">FSP</span> people voted for Paul. The point is, the state was supposed to be more libertarian-leaning to begin with. Obviously, it is <span class="caps">LESS SO THAN THE WELFARE CAPITAL OF THE MIDWEST</span>, Iowa.</p>
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		<title>by: paul</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-426553</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-426553</guid>
					<description>Revelations...
Body: 	----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: President Ron Paul (supporter)
Date: Jan 9, 2008 4:39 PM


From: Taker
Ron Paul Revolution
RonPaul2008



Hand Count Shows 15% For Ron Paul
By zooamerica &amp;#166; January 9, 2008


This would have placed Dr. Paul in 3rd place, just as the polls were showing before the primary…

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/23643

The computer counted votes are the problem.

Not a single hand count township showed less than 10%
Supposedly, Ron Paul got 8% - this does not make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Revelations&#8230;<br />
Body:&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- Bulletin Message&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
From: President Ron Paul (supporter)<br />
Date: Jan 9, 2008 4:39 PM</p>
	<p>From: Taker<br />
Ron Paul Revolution<br />
RonPaul2008</p>
	<p>Hand Count Shows 15% For Ron Paul<br />
By zooamerica | January 9, 2008</p>
	<p>This would have placed Dr. Paul in 3rd place, just as the polls were showing before the primary&#8230;</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.dailypaul.com/node/23643' rel='nofollow'>http://www.dailypaul.com/node/23643</a></p>
	<p>The computer counted votes are the problem.</p>
	<p>Not a single hand count township showed less than 10%<br />
Supposedly, Ron Paul got 8% &#8211; this does not make sense.</p>
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		<title>by: paul</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-426500</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Seth, 

I've been a long time skeptic, but I'm becoming more positive on FSP. 

I live on the road, so it would not really apply to me, but I'm liking the idea more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Seth,</p>
	<p>I&#8217;ve been a long time skeptic, but I&#8217;m becoming more positive on <span class="caps">FSP</span>.</p>
	<p>I live on the road, so it would not really apply to me, but I&#8217;m liking the idea more.</p>
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		<title>by: paul</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-426495</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-426495</guid>
					<description>Rolf, 

&lt;i&gt;Ron Paul in Good Shape

After getting 8% of the vote in New Hampshire, 5th place, and just 3% out of 3rd, Ron Paul remains in very good shape to get the GOP nomination.

Here's why:

TV Advertising

According to the USA Today today, here are the amounts spent on TV advertising so far;

Romney $24 million

McCain $4 million

Giuliani $3 million

Huckabee $2 million

Thompson $2 million

Ron Paul $2 million&lt;/i&gt;


That is NOT good news. He would have been much better spending much more early (and spending it smarter), getting better results, which would lead to more momentum - which includes new contributions. 




&lt;i&gt;

This information is crucial because it means that Ron Paul has the most solid financial foundation, by far, of any republican candidate. In the future, Ron Paul will be able to spend much more money on TV ads than the other candidates.&lt;/i&gt;


By then he will have lost too muchg horse race momentum, so the spending will get a lot less results per dollar. 


&lt;i&gt;
The other candidates have bleak money raising futures as well. Most people who give the maximum $2300 have either maxed out, or figured out that the democrats will win in the general election. Plus they are not sure which republican will get the nomination yet.

&lt;/i&gt;


Not a problem for some of the multi-millionaire Republicans, especially Romney. 




&lt;i&gt;

CANDIDATE PROFILES

Giuliani

Strategy was to get 3rd in Iowa and 2nd in NH, then wait for the big states. Didn't happen. Got 6th and 4th. Made 45 visits to Iowa and spent over $1 million on TV ads in NH on the largest TV network there. Probably almost broke. National poll numbers way down. Polling terrible in South Carolina. Zero grassroots support.
&lt;/i&gt;


Hopefully correct, but he has dug in his heels in Florida and could make a comeback there and then have the most recent wave of momentum going into SuperTuesday. 

January 2008 - Republican
 
15 - Michigan
19 - Nevada, South Carolina
29 - Florida

February 2008 - Republican
1 - Maine

Super Tuesday - February 5th - Republican
Alabama, Alaska , Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Illinois, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Utah



&lt;i&gt;
Romney

Strategy was to win Iowa and NH. Didn't happen. Wasn't even close. Spent a boatload on TV and still didn't win. Must decide how many more millions he will dump into his campaign. National poll numbers way down. Not polling well in SC. Zero grassroots support.
&lt;/i&gt;


We'll see how Michigan impacts this.


&lt;i&gt;
McCain

Some now think of him as the front-runner. Campaign almost broke. Needs the MSM to prop up campaign. Zero grassroots support. Might get GOP nomination.
&lt;/i&gt;


So can most of the rest of these. Michigan looks like a golden opportunity. 
Open primary, delegate rich state, next week, no Democra delegates will be seated. 

Am I missing something here? 

(I checked and Florida has a closed primary so it would not be as good an opportunity; leaving Michigan as a unique situation). 




&lt;i&gt;
Huckabee

In good shape. Polling well in SC. Has modest grassroots and fund-raising ability. Needs to belly up to the power brokers to win. Might get GOP nomination.
&lt;/i&gt;


Yeah, that is not good news. 



&lt;i&gt;
Thompson

Got 1% in NH. Campaign broke. Will drop out after SC.
&lt;/i&gt;


Maybe. Or he could hang in there while others destroys each other, chill, hang back and profit. 





&lt;i&gt;
Ron Paul

Needs to keep raising money. Needs to start outspending the others on TV ads. Needs to move into consistent double digits in the polls. Needs to get 3rd or 4th in a primary. Needs to start winning states on Super Tuesday.
&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, needs to start winning states before Super Tuesday or will not be well positioned going in and open to fence leaners deciding against him in favor of a &quot;lesser evil&quot; vote. 

Needs to adress official campaign structural problems to utilize grassroots support better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Rolf,</p>
	<p><i>Ron Paul in Good Shape</p>
	<p>After getting 8% of the vote in New Hampshire, 5th place, and just 3% out of 3rd, Ron Paul remains in very good shape to get the <span class="caps">GOP</span> nomination.</p>
	<p>Here&#8217;s why:</p>
	<p><span class="caps">TV </span>Advertising</p>
	<p>According to the <span class="caps">USA </span>Today today, here are the amounts spent on TV advertising so far;</p>
	<p>Romney $24 million</p>
	<p>McCain $4 million</p>
	<p>Giuliani $3 million</p>
	<p>Huckabee $2 million</p>
	<p>Thompson $2 million</p>
	<p>Ron Paul $2 million</i></p>
	<p>That is <span class="caps">NOT</span> good news. He would have been much better spending much more early (and spending it smarter), getting better results, which would lead to more momentum &#8211; which includes new contributions.</p>
	<p><i></p>
	<p>This information is crucial because it means that Ron Paul has the most solid financial foundation, by far, of any republican candidate. In the future, Ron Paul will be able to spend much more money on TV ads than the other candidates.</i></p>
	<p>By then he will have lost too muchg horse race momentum, so the spending will get a lot less results per dollar.</p>
	<p><i><br />
The other candidates have bleak money raising futures as well. Most people who give the maximum $2300 have either maxed out, or figured out that the democrats will win in the general election. Plus they are not sure which republican will get the nomination yet.</p>
	<p></i></p>
	<p>Not a problem for some of the multi-millionaire Republicans, especially Romney.</p>
	<p><i></p>
	<p><span class="caps">CANDIDATE PROFILES</span></p>
	<p>Giuliani</p>
	<p>Strategy was to get 3rd in Iowa and 2nd in NH, then wait for the big states. Didn&#8217;t happen. Got 6th and 4th. Made 45 visits to Iowa and spent over $1 million on TV ads in NH on the largest TV network there. Probably almost broke. National poll numbers way down. Polling terrible in South Carolina. Zero grassroots support.<br />
</i></p>
	<p>Hopefully correct, but he has dug in his heels in Florida and could make a comeback there and then have the most recent wave of momentum going into SuperTuesday.</p>
	<p>January 2008 &#8211; Republican</p>
	<p>15 &#8211; Michigan<br />
19 &#8211; Nevada, South Carolina<br />
29 &#8211; Florida</p>
	<p>February 2008 &#8211; Republican<br />
1 &#8211; Maine</p>
	<p>Super Tuesday &#8211; February 5th &#8211; Republican<br />
Alabama, Alaska , Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Illinois, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Utah</p>
	<p><i><br />
Romney</p>
	<p>Strategy was to win Iowa and NH. Didn&#8217;t happen. Wasn&#8217;t even close. Spent a boatload on TV and still didn&#8217;t win. Must decide how many more millions he will dump into his campaign. National poll numbers way down. Not polling well in SC. Zero grassroots support.<br />
</i></p>
	<p>We&#8217;ll see how Michigan impacts this.</p>
	<p><i><br />
McCain</p>
	<p>Some now think of him as the front-runner. Campaign almost broke. Needs the <span class="caps">MSM</span> to prop up campaign. Zero grassroots support. Might get <span class="caps">GOP</span> nomination.<br />
</i></p>
	<p>So can most of the rest of these. Michigan looks like a golden opportunity.<br />
Open primary, delegate rich state, next week, no Democra delegates will be seated.</p>
	<p>Am I missing something here?</p>
	<p>(I checked and Florida has a closed primary so it would not be as good an opportunity; leaving Michigan as a unique situation).</p>
	<p><i><br />
Huckabee</p>
	<p>In good shape. Polling well in SC. Has modest grassroots and fund-raising ability. Needs to belly up to the power brokers to win. Might get <span class="caps">GOP</span> nomination.<br />
</i></p>
	<p>Yeah, that is not good news.</p>
	<p><i><br />
Thompson</p>
	<p>Got 1% in NH. Campaign broke. Will drop out after SC.<br />
</i></p>
	<p>Maybe. Or he could hang in there while others destroys each other, chill, hang back and profit.</p>
	<p><i><br />
Ron Paul</p>
	<p>Needs to keep raising money. Needs to start outspending the others on TV ads. Needs to move into consistent double digits in the polls. Needs to get 3rd or 4th in a primary. Needs to start winning states on Super Tuesday.<br />
</i></p>
	<p>Actually, needs to start winning states before Super Tuesday or will not be well positioned going in and open to fence leaners deciding against him in favor of a &#8220;lesser evil&#8221; vote.</p>
	<p>Needs to adress official campaign structural problems to utilize grassroots support better.</p>
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		<title>by: Seth Cohn</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-426494</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>In 2004: Bitching about why Badnarik wasn't on the ballot: the FSP had only 50 people moved to NH in Oct 2004, yet we were blamed for him not being on the ballot.  It was bullshit then - the FSP was in total infancy.

In 2008: Bitching about why Ron Paul only got 9% of the vote in a Republican Primary, given the highest turnout _ever_ on record, over a half million voters: the FSP has only about _300_ movers as of Jan 2008... it's still bullshit, the FSP is far from mature or widespread.

By the end of 2008, we expect closer to 1000 movers... certainly doubling our numbers here, at the very least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>In 2004: Bitching about why Badnarik wasn&#8217;t on the ballot: the <span class="caps">FSP</span> had only 50 people moved to NH in Oct 2004, yet we were blamed for him not being on the ballot.  It was bullshit then &#8211; the <span class="caps">FSP</span> was in total infancy.</p>
	<p>In 2008: Bitching about why Ron Paul only got 9% of the vote in a Republican Primary, given the highest turnout <em>ever</em> on record, over a half million voters: the <span class="caps">FSP</span> has only about <em>300</em> movers as of Jan 2008&#8230; it&#8217;s still bullshit, the <span class="caps">FSP</span> is far from mature or widespread.</p>
	<p>By the end of 2008, we expect closer to 1000 movers&#8230; certainly doubling our numbers here, at the very least.</p>
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		<title>by: Rolf Lindgren</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-426424</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ron Paul in Good Shape 
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=83885</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ron Paul in Good Shape<br />
<a href='http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=83885' rel='nofollow'>http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=83885</a></p>
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		<title>by: paul</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/08/mccain-wins-nh-paul-in-fifth-place/#comment-426148</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;All it will take is Paul calling for a recount, spending some of his money, and this can be dealt with in the open. Complaints should be sent to Paul’s campaign if you really want to contest the results&quot;

And what would that accomplish? I think there may have been some chicanery, but not on a grand scale. 

IE: RP may have actually beaten Giuliani, but he certainly was not cheated out of a win. There would be some symbolic victory if we could prove Ron Paul did better than Giuliani, but hardly worth spending campaign time and money on. 

What they need to do is ditch the lame ads and let the grassroots created ads win some type of contest, and go all out for independent (and crossover, if allowed) votes in Michigan (next week!) since the Democrats will not seat Michigan delegates. Same thing in Florida (1/29). 

Go all out in those on peace and civil liberties issues which appeal to Democrats and Independents, since the Demo primary will be a useless beauty contest. 

Plop down whatever resources the campaign has now, especially in those two states, and if it has good results it will bring in much more. If not, what is the point of hanging on to so much money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;All it will take is Paul calling for a recount, spending some of his money, and this can be dealt with in the open. Complaints should be sent to Paul&#8217;s campaign if you really want to contest the results&#8221;</p>
	<p>And what would that accomplish? I think there may have been some chicanery, but not on a grand scale.</p>
	<p>IE: RP may have actually beaten Giuliani, but he certainly was not cheated out of a win. There would be some symbolic victory if we could prove Ron Paul did better than Giuliani, but hardly worth spending campaign time and money on.</p>
	<p>What they need to do is ditch the lame ads and let the grassroots created ads win some type of contest, and go all out for independent (and crossover, if allowed) votes in Michigan (next week!) since the Democrats will not seat Michigan delegates. Same thing in Florida (1/29).</p>
	<p>Go all out in those on peace and civil liberties issues which appeal to Democrats and Independents, since the Demo primary will be a useless beauty contest.</p>
	<p>Plop down whatever resources the campaign has now, especially in those two states, and if it has good results it will bring in much more. If not, what is the point of hanging on to so much money?</p>
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