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	<title>Comments on: Ron Paul&#8217;s Michigan Results</title>
	<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/</link>
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		<title>by: Lex</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-438523</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>He did well with independents and young voters, but lost the anti-war vote to McCain somehow.  12% of voters thought Ron Paul was the most likely candidate to effect needed changes, but only 48% of them voted for him!

I guess the media was wrong all along when they called Ron Paul &quot;the longest of long shots&quot; and &quot;quixotic&quot; and a &quot;fringe candidate.&quot;  Who really deserves that title?  John Cox?  Jim Gilmore?  Sam Brownback?  Tommy Thompson?  Alan Keyes?  Tom Tancredo?  Duncan Hunter? 

They all seem to be longer long shots than Ron Paul right now, don't they?  Heck, even Rudy Giuliani and Fred Thompson may drop out before Paul, since they've received fewer votes so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>He did well with independents and young voters, but lost the anti-war vote to McCain somehow.  12% of voters thought Ron Paul was the most likely candidate to effect needed changes, but only 48% of them voted for him!</p>
	<p>I guess the media was wrong all along when they called Ron Paul &#8220;the longest of long shots&#8221; and &#8220;quixotic&#8221; and a &#8220;fringe candidate.&#8221;  Who really deserves that title?  John Cox?  Jim Gilmore?  Sam Brownback?  Tommy Thompson?  Alan Keyes?  Tom Tancredo?  Duncan Hunter?</p>
	<p>They all seem to be longer long shots than Ron Paul right now, don&#8217;t they?  Heck, even Rudy Giuliani and Fred Thompson may drop out before Paul, since they&#8217;ve received fewer votes so far.</p>
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		<title>by: paulie</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-437534</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 05:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>There are lots of Democrats and independents who don't fit that profile. 

BTW let me know if you are still having any problems posting at LFV - post at LFV wordpress and let me know, I'll transfer it. 


Also I can sign people up at Cannoli Wordpress...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>There are lots of Democrats and independents who don&#8217;t fit that profile.</p>
	<p><span class="caps">BTW</span> let me know if you are still having any problems posting at <span class="caps">LFV </span>- post at <span class="caps">LFV</span> wordpress and let me know, I&#8217;ll transfer it.</p>
	<p>Also I can sign people up at Cannoli Wordpress&#8230;</p>
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		<title>by: G.E.</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-437213</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-437213</guid>
					<description>paulie - Democrats in Michigan do not care about civil liberties or the war. They care only about protectionism and welfare, period. We worked our asses off here. My CD, for which I was Field Coordinator, netted 8.7% of the vote. Others dropped the ball. But it was an  uphill battle and appealing to &quot;civil liberties&quot; would have only further alienated fascist Repugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>paulie &#8211; Democrats in Michigan do not care about civil liberties or the war. They care only about protectionism and welfare, period. We worked our asses off here. My CD, for which I was Field Coordinator, netted 8.7% of the vote. Others dropped the ball. But it was an  uphill battle and appealing to &#8220;civil liberties&#8221; would have only further alienated fascist Repugs.</p>
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		<title>by: Sean Scallon</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-436825</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-436825</guid>
					<description>I guess's Eric Rittberg's philosphy is why have one when you can have four? Hey, if it works in a Mexican whorehouse, more power to ya.

Unfortunately Mr. Rittberg, you weren't Mitt singing praises all last year. It was all Rudy and all WAR.  As I said, six years ago you might have been right but Romney is nothing more than a political cameleon, whoring  himself to whatever audience he's in front of. (You know what a whore don't you Eric?) In Michigan he promised to subsidize the auto industry the tune of $25 million and now he's promising to do the same to the textile industry in Sotuh Carolina. Some libertarian.

Weld's libertarian phase lasted half his first term, then he became a liberal Republican. Romney could have been that too, then he decided he wanted to run for President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I guess&#8217;s Eric Rittberg&#8217;s philosphy is why have one when you can have four? Hey, if it works in a Mexican whorehouse, more power to ya.</p>
	<p>Unfortunately Mr. Rittberg, you weren&#8217;t Mitt singing praises all last year. It was all Rudy and all <span class="caps">WAR</span>.  As I said, six years ago you might have been right but Romney is nothing more than a political cameleon, whoring  himself to whatever audience he&#8217;s in front of. (You know what a whore don&#8217;t you Eric?) In Michigan he promised to subsidize the auto industry the tune of $25 million and now he&#8217;s promising to do the same to the textile industry in Sotuh Carolina. Some libertarian.</p>
	<p>Weld&#8217;s libertarian phase lasted half his first term, then he became a liberal Republican. Romney could have been that too, then he decided he wanted to run for President.</p>
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		<title>by: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-435420</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 02:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-435420</guid>
					<description>Sean Scanlon, perhaps you're a Newbie to our libertarian movement.  Perhpas you weren't around in the 1990s.  

If you had been, you'd know that back in the 1990s there were essentially only three people in the entire United States of any stature or celebrity calling themselves &quot;libertarians&quot;.  

One of them was Howard Stern.

Another one was PJ O'Rourke.  

The third one was Massachusetts Governor William Weld.  Weld essentially put the term &quot;libertarian Republican&quot; on the map.  He was a groundbreaker.  He established single-handidly that one could be both an Economic Conservative (Hayekian as he liked to call himself), and Socially Tolerant guy, as well.  

Today, Weld is not only supporting Mitt Romney, but he's actively campaigning for him around the United States.

Sir, ANY politician who is good enough for William Weld, is more than good enough for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sean Scanlon, perhaps you&#8217;re a Newbie to our libertarian movement.  Perhpas you weren&#8217;t around in the 1990s.</p>
	<p>If you had been, you&#8217;d know that back in the 1990s there were essentially only three people in the entire United States of any stature or celebrity calling themselves &#8220;libertarians&#8221;.</p>
	<p>One of them was Howard Stern.</p>
	<p>Another one was <span class="caps">PJ O</span>&#8217;Rourke.</p>
	<p>The third one was Massachusetts Governor William Weld.  Weld essentially put the term &#8220;libertarian Republican&#8221; on the map.  He was a groundbreaker.  He established single-handidly that one could be both an Economic Conservative (Hayekian as he liked to call himself), and Socially Tolerant guy, as well.</p>
	<p>Today, Weld is not only supporting Mitt Romney, but he&#8217;s actively campaigning for him around the United States.</p>
	<p>Sir, <span class="caps">ANY</span> politician who is good enough for William Weld, is more than good enough for me.</p>
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		<title>by: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-435417</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 02:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-435417</guid>
					<description>Okay, folks, for the millionth time, let me go on record:

Eric Dondero Rittberg supports:

1. Rudy Giuliani

2. Mitt Romney

3. Fred Thompson

4. Wayne Root

Beyond that, I'll end up voting NOTA.  (Maybe McCain - but only if he picks Sarah Palin or JC Watts as VP)

Ron Paul - NO, Huckabee - HELL NO!  Hillary or Obama, not even if I was threatened with a Saddam Hussein style torture chamber.  

Bloomberg?  Yuck!

I'm a solid &quot;Romna-Thomps-Iani&quot; supporter.  Always have been.  Always will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Okay, folks, for the millionth time, let me go on record:</p>
	<p>Eric Dondero Rittberg supports:</p>
	<p>1. Rudy Giuliani</p>
	<p>2. Mitt Romney</p>
	<p>3. Fred Thompson</p>
	<p>4. Wayne Root</p>
	<p>Beyond that, I&#8217;ll end up voting <span class="caps">NOTA</span>.  (Maybe McCain &#8211; but only if he picks Sarah Palin or <span class="caps">JC </span>Watts as VP)</p>
	<p>Ron Paul &#8211; NO, Huckabee &#8211; <span class="caps">HELL NO</span>!  Hillary or Obama, not even if I was threatened with a Saddam Hussein style torture chamber.</p>
	<p>Bloomberg?  Yuck!</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m a solid &#8220;Romna-Thomps-Iani&#8221; supporter.  Always have been.  Always will be.</p>
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		<title>by: Ronald Kane Hardy</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-435127</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ron Paul should run on the Libertarian (or Constitution) Party ticket. He would surely get 5% of the national popular vote, which as you third party junkies know comes with a whole lot of benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ron Paul should run on the Libertarian (or Constitution) Party ticket. He would surely get 5% of the national popular vote, which as you third party junkies know comes with a whole lot of benefits.</p>
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		<title>by: Robert Milnes</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-434929</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-434929</guid>
					<description>Sean Scallon, 6% would make RP a good spoiler. The anti-war Ronulans will have paid for the warmongering gop to win. Lube, please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sean Scallon, 6% would make RP a good spoiler. The anti-war Ronulans will have paid for the warmongering gop to win. Lube, please!</p>
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		<title>by: Sean Scallon</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-434791</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Given that the Michigan primary allowed Democrats and Republicans to vote in it, Paul's 6 percent is a good indication of percentage he could possibly get in a non-major party run. Again I am of the opinion that such run should only happen in certain circumstances and for the right reasons in terms of accomplishment, but if it does happen he could get a decent percentage in the context on non-major party run history,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Given that the Michigan primary allowed Democrats and Republicans to vote in it, Paul&#8217;s 6 percent is a good indication of percentage he could possibly get in a non-major party run. Again I am of the opinion that such run should only happen in certain circumstances and for the right reasons in terms of accomplishment, but if it does happen he could get a decent percentage in the context on non-major party run history,</p>
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		<title>by: Sean Scallon</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-434774</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Oh you're such a riot Eric Rittberg! Apparently in Eric's universe, he cannot lose because he simply latches on to another &quot;winning&quot; candidate and proclaims that candidate's &quot;libertarian&quot; values. Sure, and the moon is made of green cheese too. 

Romney won basically because a majority of voters were 60 plus (which confirms my theory that the GOP is agining and dying) and they all remember his Dad. He also basically pledged to subsidize the auto industry. On top of his health care plan in Massachucetts and his opposition to gay marriage, please pray tell Mr. Rittberg what libertarian values there are in Mitt, (at least as of today because you never know when the man changes his mind)? You might of been right six years ago when he first elected for office but given all the flip-flops over the years, it's hard to tell what Romney stands for or believes in.

But go right ahead and kiss his arse Eric. It didn't take you long to ditch your &quot;transgender&quot; Guliani but at least you knew when to jump sinking ship. And if you're a real good suck-up (and God knows you are) maybe Romney Administration will give you a job sweeping floors in the basement of the Library of Congress. How 'bout that? 

Besides, tomorrow you'll be back supporting Wayne Allyn Root right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh you&#8217;re such a riot Eric Rittberg! Apparently in Eric&#8217;s universe, he cannot lose because he simply latches on to another &#8220;winning&#8221; candidate and proclaims that candidate&#8217;s &#8220;libertarian&#8221; values. Sure, and the moon is made of green cheese too.</p>
	<p>Romney won basically because a majority of voters were 60 plus (which confirms my theory that the <span class="caps">GOP</span> is agining and dying) and they all remember his Dad. He also basically pledged to subsidize the auto industry. On top of his health care plan in Massachucetts and his opposition to gay marriage, please pray tell Mr. Rittberg what libertarian values there are in Mitt, (at least as of today because you never know when the man changes his mind)? You might of been right six years ago when he first elected for office but given all the flip-flops over the years, it&#8217;s hard to tell what Romney stands for or believes in.</p>
	<p>But go right ahead and kiss his arse Eric. It didn&#8217;t take you long to ditch your &#8220;transgender&#8221; Guliani but at least you knew when to jump sinking ship. And if you&#8217;re a real good suck-up (and God knows you are) maybe Romney Administration will give you a job sweeping floors in the basement of the Library of Congress. How &#8216;bout that?</p>
	<p>Besides, tomorrow you&#8217;ll be back supporting Wayne Allyn Root right?</p>
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		<title>by: Jose C.</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-434567</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-434567</guid>
					<description>Republican Party Delegate Count &amp;#38; Percent 

Romney 42    45.16%
Huckabee 22    23.66
McCain 19    20.43
Thompson 6    6.45
Paul 2    2.15
Giuliani 1    1.07
Hunter 1    1.07

total delegates: 93 
Source: CNN (as of 1-16-08)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Republican Party Delegate Count &#038; Percent</p>
	<p>Romney 42    45.16%<br />
Huckabee 22    23.66<br />
McCain 19    20.43<br />
Thompson 6    6.45<br />
Paul 2    2.15<br />
Giuliani 1    1.07<br />
Hunter 1    1.07</p>
	<p>total delegates: 93<br />
Source: <span class="caps">CNN </span>(as of 1-16-08)</p>
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		<title>by: paulie</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-434565</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Michigan was an open primary, and the Democrats will not let Michigan delegates vote at their convention. I think it was a huge blown opportunity to not focus on Michigan with a peace and civil liberties message aimed at independents and Democrats, letting them know that the Democratic vote would not count. Nevertheless, fourth place is exactly where Ron Paul was before Michigan in the cumulative vote total. 

Hmmmm...I wonder if any news organizations are going to leave Giuliani out of the debates now? Is their trailer too small to fit a distant sixth place finisher? Are they going to ask their focus groups if it was a mistake to have him on the stage? (I'm not saying do that, just pointing out the double standard).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Michigan was an open primary, and the Democrats will not let Michigan delegates vote at their convention. I think it was a huge blown opportunity to not focus on Michigan with a peace and civil liberties message aimed at independents and Democrats, letting them know that the Democratic vote would not count. Nevertheless, fourth place is exactly where Ron Paul was before Michigan in the cumulative vote total.</p>
	<p>Hmmmm&#8230;I wonder if any news organizations are going to leave Giuliani out of the debates now? Is their trailer too small to fit a distant sixth place finisher? Are they going to ask their focus groups if it was a mistake to have him on the stage? (I&#8217;m not saying do that, just pointing out the double standard).</p>
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		<title>by: Jason Gatties</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-434532</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I actually thought Paul would get a higher vote count here in Michigan, closer to 10%. The 4th place finish I was on the money with though. I thought Romney vs McCain would be closer than it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I actually thought Paul would get a higher vote count here in Michigan, closer to 10%. The 4th place finish I was on the money with though. I thought Romney vs McCain would be closer than it was.</p>
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		<title>by: Robert Milnes</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-434478</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This is absurd. Iowa 10%,NH8%, now Mich. 6%. RP/RP is gradually losing support just as predicted by The Libertarian Vote/Cato Institute. THAT is the story. Now, what's next? Nevada-4%. Then S.C. 2%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This is absurd. Iowa 10%,NH8%, now Mich. 6%. RP/RP is gradually losing support just as predicted by The Libertarian Vote/Cato Institute. <span class="caps">THAT</span> is the story. Now, what&#8217;s next? Nevada-4%. Then S.C. 2%.</p>
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		<title>by: Cody Quirk</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/01/16/ron-pauls-michigan-results/#comment-434466</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Many Mormons might be supporting Romney too, but I'm not supporting him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Many Mormons might be supporting Romney too, but I&#8217;m not supporting him.</p>
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