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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/12/mccain-madness/#comment-505266</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Im looking for someone who non-theocrats can actually look at and vote for without shuddering.</description>
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		<title>by: Red Phillips</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/12/mccain-madness/#comment-494715</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Trent, you have already let the cat out of the bag. You are looking for a non-religionists. I now understand the appeal of Smith, which alluded me before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Trent, you have already let the cat out of the bag. You are looking for a non-religionists. I now understand the appeal of Smith, which alluded me before.</p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/12/mccain-madness/#comment-494680</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Keyes is a charlatan, and opposed by MANY stalwart Committeemen. Including MANY state chairs and officers in the party. Its his interventionist, pro-UN policies mainly.

&quot;Trent, he was no where near a Constitutionalist. Meaning he opposes all spending and programs not specifically authorized by the Constitution. Did he vote against every Republican budget? He was essentially a fairly conservative Senator by modern movement conservative standards. He is a retread. If the CP really thinks Sen. Smith is a “big name” then that says a lot about the Constitution Party.&quot;

=As I'v said. He was not perfect. He said in his most recent article,
&quot;The growth and size of the federal government highlights programs, bureaus and departments that have no connection to the Constitution whatsoever.&quot;
He voted against several Republican budgets.  As iv said, he is not perfect. But im not looking for perfection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Keyes is a charlatan, and opposed by <span class="caps">MANY</span> stalwart Committeemen. Including <span class="caps">MANY</span> state chairs and officers in the party. Its his interventionist, pro-UN policies mainly.</p>
	<p>&#8220;Trent, he was no where near a Constitutionalist. Meaning he opposes all spending and programs not specifically authorized by the Constitution. Did he vote against every Republican budget? He was essentially a fairly conservative Senator by modern movement conservative standards. He is a retread. If the CP really thinks Sen. Smith is a &#8220;big name&#8221; then that says a lot about the Constitution Party.&#8221;</p>
	<p>=As I&#8217;v said. He was not perfect. He said in his most recent article,<br />
&#8220;The growth and size of the federal government highlights programs, bureaus and departments that have no connection to the Constitution whatsoever.&#8221;<br />
He voted against several Republican budgets.  As iv said, he is not perfect. But im not looking for perfection.</p>
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		<title>by: Red Phillips</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/12/mccain-madness/#comment-494438</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Michael, I'm telling you, Keyes will split/ruin the party. His nomination would be a disaster. I could never vote for him, and almost all the CP members or CP sympathetic people I know feel the same way. Being pro-War is a non-starter among other things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Michael, I&#8217;m telling you, Keyes will split/ruin the party. His nomination would be a disaster. I could never vote for him, and almost all the CP members or CP sympathetic people I know feel the same way. Being pro-War is a non-starter among other things.</p>
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		<title>by: Michael</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/12/mccain-madness/#comment-494295</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Keyes-Smith. The others are not known outside CP circles. I'm willing to forgive Smith on his Kerry endorsement which I understood he made because they were both Navy in Nam. Both are nationally conservative names who are will to take a chance on the CP. Should it come down to D, R, Nader/McKinney, Barr, Bloomberg/Nunn, and the CP, then we are going to need those names otherwise it will be like 1992 with the CP getting only 43,434 votes (the hard line faithful) with the better known candidates getting the money, votes, and media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Keyes-Smith. The others are not known outside CP circles. I&#8217;m willing to forgive Smith on his Kerry endorsement which I understood he made because they were both Navy in Nam. Both are nationally conservative names who are will to take a chance on the CP. Should it come down to D, R, Nader/McKinney, Barr, Bloomberg/Nunn, and the CP, then we are going to need those names otherwise it will be like 1992 with the CP getting only 43,434 votes (the hard line faithful) with the better known candidates getting the money, votes, and media.</p>
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		<title>by: Red Phillips</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/12/mccain-madness/#comment-493304</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Eric, Gilchrist was an across the board RINO. Paul and Jones are not. And this just testifies to how small and out of touch the GOP base has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Eric, Gilchrist was an across the board <span class="caps">RINO</span>. Paul and Jones are not. And this just testifies to how small and out of touch the <span class="caps">GOP</span> base has become.</p>
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		<title>by: Ronald Monroe</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/12/mccain-madness/#comment-493295</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Trent I am looking forward to meeting you at the Constitution Party National Convention. I am glade we will have the opportunity to hear and meet presidential candidates with name recognation. 

Trent, I need to meet and know more about Senator Smith before I vote for our nominee for President at the national convention. Here in Michigan we have a lot more local chapter meetings then every before. Ron Paul ignited that fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Trent I am looking forward to meeting you at the Constitution Party National Convention. I am glade we will have the opportunity to hear and meet presidential candidates with name recognation.</p>
	<p>Trent, I need to meet and know more about Senator Smith before I vote for our nominee for President at the national convention. Here in Michigan we have a lot more local chapter meetings then every before. Ron Paul ignited that fire.</p>
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		<title>by: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/12/mccain-madness/#comment-493100</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Oppose the War, go down to defeat!

Wayne Gilchrist has JUST BEEN BEATAN BADLY by Andy Harris in the Maryland GOP Congressional primary.  Gilchrist, along with Walter Jones of NC and Ron Paul of TX, was one of only three Anti-War Republicans in the US House.  

Gilcrhist got crushed by Iraq War supporter and Marine Reservist Harris, 44% to 32%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oppose the War, go down to defeat!</p>
	<p>Wayne Gilchrist has <span class="caps">JUST BEEN BEATAN BADLY</span> by Andy Harris in the Maryland <span class="caps">GOP </span>Congressional primary.  Gilchrist, along with Walter Jones of NC and Ron Paul of TX, was one of only three Anti-War Republicans in the <span class="caps">US </span>House.</p>
	<p>Gilcrhist got crushed by Iraq War supporter and Marine Reservist Harris, 44% to 32%</p>
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		<title>by: Dave Williams</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/12/mccain-madness/#comment-492842</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Look what I ran into over @ Glenn Beck today. Check out the featured video of a FOX26 news report here in Houston. http://www.glennbeck.com/

@ 0:15 sec a photo of BHO is shown right next to Che Guevara on a Cuban flag. The 'HOPE', according to BHO, for Communism is not dead.

I just wish the GOP hadn't abandoned the last great hope for Freedom...Mitt Romney. After Obama takes over, it could take years for us to recover from his admins policies...decades...if any patriots are still left not jailed or dead for writing posts like this...time to head for the hills and bury the guns and ammo folks while we still have time.

I'd like to kick down a big thank you shout out to the GOP, John McCain &amp;#38; George Bush for betraying us! Thanks for not following &amp;#38; supporting the Constitution, for pandering to Left Wing radicals and essentially joining them, for pre-emptive warfare that alienated us diplomatically from many nations around the world and which ignited a fire under extremists everywhere, for the illegal immigrant amnesty bill which encouraged countries to fund their terrorists to travel across the pond and work their way to our unsecured border...that should have been locked down post 9/11!! In addition to terrorists, thousands of people just like Guevara, (Marxists, the real ones not like the watered down crap that lives in Hollywierd) were allowed to enter our country to undermine the very thing that makes us Americans...FREEDOM!

Undermine and destroy America from within has been at the core of Communistic strategic interests for decades...almost a reality now... Hmmm, even if Obama loses to Mac in '08 &amp;#38; Mac passes his amnesty bill, 12 to 20 million illegals will be eligible to vote 'YES' for Communism in 2012-2016.

Thanks again GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Look what I ran into over @ Glenn Beck today. Check out the featured video of a <span class="caps">FOX26</span> news report here in Houston. <a href='http://www.glennbeck.com/' rel='nofollow'>http://www.glennbeck.com/</a></p>
	<p>@ 0:15 sec a photo of <span class="caps">BHO</span> is shown right next to Che Guevara on a Cuban flag. The &#8216;HOPE&#8217;, according to <span class="caps">BHO</span>, for Communism is not dead.</p>
	<p>I just wish the <span class="caps">GOP</span> hadn&#8217;t abandoned the last great hope for Freedom&#8230;Mitt Romney. After Obama takes over, it could take years for us to recover from his admins policies&#8230;decades&#8230;if any patriots are still left not jailed or dead for writing posts like this&#8230;time to head for the hills and bury the guns and ammo folks while we still have time.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;d like to kick down a big thank you shout out to the <span class="caps">GOP</span>, John McCain &#038; George Bush for betraying us! Thanks for not following &#038; supporting the Constitution, for pandering to Left Wing radicals and essentially joining them, for pre-emptive warfare that alienated us diplomatically from many nations around the world and which ignited a fire under extremists everywhere, for the illegal immigrant amnesty bill which encouraged countries to fund their terrorists to travel across the pond and work their way to our unsecured border&#8230;that should have been locked down post 9/11!! In addition to terrorists, thousands of people just like Guevara, (Marxists, the real ones not like the watered down crap that lives in Hollywierd) were allowed to enter our country to undermine the very thing that makes us Americans&#8230;FREEDOM!</p>
	<p>Undermine and destroy America from within has been at the core of Communistic strategic interests for decades&#8230;almost a reality now&#8230; Hmmm, even if Obama loses to Mac in &#8216;08 &#038; Mac passes his amnesty bill, 12 to 20 million illegals will be eligible to vote &#8216;YES&#8217; for Communism in 2012-2016.</p>
	<p>Thanks again <span class="caps">GOP</span>.</p>
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		<title>by: Tom the Trotskyist</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/12/mccain-madness/#comment-492425</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yes, I am very happy about the death of conservativism. Soon the advocates of freedom and constitutionalism and the ways of God will be utterly crushed by the Catholic masonic socialist organization of Clinton, Obama, Huckabee and McCain. Once this happens, they will adopt a non-interventionist policy. Non-interventionism is the one thing these constitutionalists are right on. But the values of economic freedom are worthless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yes, I am very happy about the death of conservativism. Soon the advocates of freedom and constitutionalism and the ways of God will be utterly crushed by the Catholic masonic socialist organization of Clinton, Obama, Huckabee and McCain. Once this happens, they will adopt a non-interventionist policy. Non-interventionism is the one thing these constitutionalists are right on. But the values of economic freedom are worthless.</p>
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		<title>by: Red Phillips</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/12/mccain-madness/#comment-492350</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Trent, he was no where near a Constitutionalist. Meaning he opposes all spending and programs not specifically authorized by the Constitution. Did he vote against every Republican budget? He was essentially a fairly conservative Senator by modern movement conservative standards. He is a retread. If the CP really thinks Sen. Smith is a &quot;big name&quot; then that says a lot  about the Constitution Party.

He was not begged to rejoin the GOP, BTW. He was the one who went to them, hat in hand, tail tucked between his legs. Sen. Smith as the CP nominee would be nothing short of an embarrassment.

Also, does he want to bring the troops home now? The troops in Iraq, of course, but also the troops in Germany, Japan, etc.? Is he a non-interventionist or is he one of these &quot;conservatives&quot; who sets around fretting about the &quot;Islamofascist&quot; menace &quot;who want to kill us all!!!&quot;? Something I like to call Dondero syndrome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Trent, he was no where near a Constitutionalist. Meaning he opposes all spending and programs not specifically authorized by the Constitution. Did he vote against every Republican budget? He was essentially a fairly conservative Senator by modern movement conservative standards. He is a retread. If the CP really thinks Sen. Smith is a &#8220;big name&#8221; then that says a lot  about the Constitution Party.</p>
	<p>He was not begged to rejoin the <span class="caps">GOP</span>, BTW. He was the one who went to them, hat in hand, tail tucked between his legs. Sen. Smith as the CP nominee would be nothing short of an embarrassment.</p>
	<p>Also, does he want to bring the troops home now? The troops in Iraq, of course, but also the troops in Germany, Japan, etc.? Is he a non-interventionist or is he one of these &#8220;conservatives&#8221; who sets around fretting about the &#8220;Islamofascist&#8221; menace &#8220;who want to kill us all<img src="!" alt="" border="0" />&#8220;? Something I like to call Dondero syndrome.</p>
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		<title>by: Phil Sawyer</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/12/mccain-madness/#comment-492324</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The Constitution Party should offer its presidential nomination to the Honorable Ralph Nader!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The Constitution Party should offer its presidential nomination to the Honorable Ralph Nader!</p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/12/mccain-madness/#comment-492223</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>His independant bid went nowhere because people like Buchanan, Keyes, and Bauer were still in the race. He was getting a VERY small slice of the conservative pie.

&quot;His speech when he was leaving the GOP was right on. &quot;
=So we can agree on that.

&quot;Then his independent bid went nowhere and the GOP won back the Senate and he went hat in hand to the GOP to get his committee chairmanship back. Were the concerns he outlined in his speech no longer valid?&quot;
=Of course they were still valid. But Smith, Like Paul, figured he could do something about it from the inside. Smith was offered a high-powered position if he'd rejoin the party--and he did. I'd have done the same, and any sane human would. 

&quot;In 2004 he endorsed Kerry and last year he endorsed hyper interventionist Duncan Hunter. What about that picture is at all appealing?&quot;
=He endorsed Kerry because he claimed that Kerry and Bush (and by extension, the D's and R's) were two sides of the same coin: Exactly identical except for the deficit issue. So he endorsed Kerry,based upon Kerry's aggresive push for a balanced budget and deficit improvement plan.

&quot;When he was a Senator was he a Constitutionalist?&quot;
=Absolutely. Was he a PERFECT Constitutionalist? No. Only Ron Paul is basically. But Smith had a real good record on taxes, guns, life, and Federalism. His low-spending record, maverick tendencies, and out of the UN policies all jive well with the Constitutionalist platform. His departures are few and perhaps not as large as we think. Afterall,we havent even heard much from him havent we?
What about the picture is appealing? Having a big name that will bring more votes to our down-ticket races and bring lots of publicity and viability. Sen. Smith is an honest man, if nothing else--and he ought to at least be looked at as a credible alternative.

Judge Roy Moore, Sen. Bob Smith, and even Jerome Corsi all have their problems---but they'll bring the money and press we've been lacking. They dont have to be PERFECT. They just have the change the direction of the debate enough so that we get some attention without losing our principles. Roy Moore and Sen. Smith accomplish that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>His independant bid went nowhere because people like Buchanan, Keyes, and Bauer were still in the race. He was getting a <span class="caps">VERY</span> small slice of the conservative pie.</p>
	<p>&#8220;His speech when he was leaving the <span class="caps">GOP</span> was right on. &#8221;<br />
=So we can agree on that.</p>
	<p>&#8220;Then his independent bid went nowhere and the <span class="caps">GOP</span> won back the Senate and he went hat in hand to the <span class="caps">GOP</span> to get his committee chairmanship back. Were the concerns he outlined in his speech no longer valid?&#8221;<br />
=Of course they were still valid. But Smith, Like Paul, figured he could do something about it from the inside. Smith was offered a high-powered position if he&#8217;d rejoin the party&#8212;and he did. I&#8217;d have done the same, and any sane human would.</p>
	<p>&#8220;In 2004 he endorsed Kerry and last year he endorsed hyper interventionist Duncan Hunter. What about that picture is at all appealing?&#8221;<br />
=He endorsed Kerry because he claimed that Kerry and Bush (and by extension, the D&#8217;s and R&#8217;s) were two sides of the same coin: Exactly identical except for the deficit issue. So he endorsed Kerry,based upon Kerry&#8217;s aggresive push for a balanced budget and deficit improvement plan.</p>
	<p>&#8220;When he was a Senator was he a Constitutionalist?&#8221;<br />
=Absolutely. Was he a <span class="caps">PERFECT </span>Constitutionalist? No. Only Ron Paul is basically. But Smith had a real good record on taxes, guns, life, and Federalism. His low-spending record, maverick tendencies, and out of the UN policies all jive well with the Constitutionalist platform. His departures are few and perhaps not as large as we think. Afterall,we havent even heard much from him havent we?<br />
What about the picture is appealing? Having a big name that will bring more votes to our down-ticket races and bring lots of publicity and viability. Sen. Smith is an honest man, if nothing else&#8212;and he ought to at least be looked at as a credible alternative.</p>
	<p>Judge Roy Moore, Sen. Bob Smith, and even Jerome Corsi all have their problems&#8212;-but they&#8217;ll bring the money and press we&#8217;ve been lacking. They dont have to be <span class="caps">PERFECT</span>. They just have the change the direction of the debate enough so that we get some attention without losing our principles. Roy Moore and Sen. Smith accomplish that.</p>
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		<title>by: Red Phillips</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/12/mccain-madness/#comment-491917</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Trent, please explain the appeal of Smith to me. In 2000 he ran for President as a Republican and when he was getting nowhere left the GOP to become an independent. (He flirted with the CP back then also.) His speech when he was leaving the GOP was right on. Then his independent bid went nowhere and the GOP won back the Senate and he went hat in hand to the GOP to get his committee chairmanship back. Were the concerns he outlined in his speech no longer valid? In 2004 he endorsed Kerry and last year he endorsed hyper interventionist Duncan Hunter. What about that picture is at all appealing? Smith would just reafirm the impression that the CP is just begging for some semi-credible cast off from the GOP. When he was a Senator was he a Constitutionalist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Trent, please explain the appeal of Smith to me. In 2000 he ran for President as a Republican and when he was getting nowhere left the <span class="caps">GOP</span> to become an independent. (He flirted with the CP back then also.) His speech when he was leaving the <span class="caps">GOP</span> was right on. Then his independent bid went nowhere and the <span class="caps">GOP</span> won back the Senate and he went hat in hand to the <span class="caps">GOP</span> to get his committee chairmanship back. Were the concerns he outlined in his speech no longer valid? In 2004 he endorsed Kerry and last year he endorsed hyper interventionist Duncan Hunter. What about that picture is at all appealing? Smith would just reafirm the impression that the CP is just begging for some semi-credible cast off from the <span class="caps">GOP</span>. When he was a Senator was he a Constitutionalist?</p>
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		<title>by: Ronald Monroe</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/12/mccain-madness/#comment-491887</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Make no mistake Chuck, now is the time for the Constitution Party to strike while the iron is hot. I am hearing from people who are unhappy with the manipulation of the primary dates and now the creation of the super delegates to control the  primaries and take away the party members vote. I have spent the last three hours talking to new candidates for the  U.S. Taxpayers Party of Michigan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Make no mistake Chuck, now is the time for the Constitution Party to strike while the iron is hot. I am hearing from people who are unhappy with the manipulation of the primary dates and now the creation of the super delegates to control the  primaries and take away the party members vote. I have spent the last three hours talking to new candidates for the  U.S. Taxpayers Party of Michigan.</p>
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