Comments on: Constitution Party pronounces the GOP dead http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/ Sat, 17 May 2008 09:37:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: Larry Breazeale,Msgt.(ret.)USAFR http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-547223 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:21:23 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-547223 Remember the old WHIG party? There used to be just the Whig party and the Democratic party many years ago. Right before the Civil War (or War Between the States, as some of you call it..) there was no republican party. yet. Whether we liked it or not, the number one issue...SLAVERY was not properly delt with. Because one of the major parties at the time...Whig party...continued to ignore the SLAVERY issue, it eventually died on the vine (and rightfully so!) And, a new political third party...the Republican party rose to the stage and elected Lincoln, for better or for worse. I really believe history repeats itself! Today, the real number one issue is "ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION".....not the media induced priority issues such as health care and the Iraq war. Iraq and all the talk about it by the republicrat front runners is nothing but a 'smoke-screen'. THEY dare not talk about "illegal immigration"!! However, the Constitution party will talk about it! Their candidates are talking about it! And the C.P. Nominee will be talking about it, no matter how much the republicrats try to ignore the issue. Because the rotten Republican party has ignored illegal immigration and abandoned the Constitution, IT WILL DIE ON THE VINE JUST LIKE THE WHIG PARTY DIED IGNORING THE ISSUE OF SLAVERY in 1859. The GOP is the "sinking Titanic". All that the 'Huckleberries' and 'Romneys' did, was merely 'rearrange the Titanic's deck chairs! And, guess WHO is the Titanic's Captain, at the helm??? McAmnesty Insane McCain! ANOTHER CFR member (Council on Foreign Relations) stooge! I say, good riddance! -Larry Breazeale, Msgt. (ret.) USAFR National Veterans Coalition www.nvets.org Remember the old WHIG party? There used to be just the Whig party and the Democratic party many years ago. Right before the Civil War (or War Between the States, as some of you call it..) there was no republican party. yet. Whether we liked it or not, the number one issue…SLAVERY was not properly delt with.
Because one of the major parties at the time…Whig party…continued to ignore the SLAVERY issue, it eventually died on the vine (and rightfully so!)
And, a new political third party…the Republican party rose to the stage and elected Lincoln, for better or for worse.
I really believe history repeats itself!
Today, the real number one issue is “ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION”.....not the media induced priority issues such as health care and the Iraq war.
Iraq and all the talk about it by the republicrat front runners is nothing but a ‘smoke-screen’. THEY dare not talk about “illegal immigration”!!

However, the Constitution party will talk about it! Their candidates are talking about it! And the C.P. Nominee will be talking about it, no matter how much the republicrats try to ignore the issue.

Because the rotten Republican party has ignored illegal immigration and abandoned the Constitution, IT WILL DIE ON THE VINE JUST LIKE THE WHIG PARTY DIED IGNORING THE ISSUE OF SLAVERY in 1859.

The GOP is the “sinking Titanic”. All that the ‘Huckleberries’ and ‘Romneys’ did, was merely ‘rearrange the Titanic’s deck chairs!

And, guess WHO is the Titanic’s Captain, at the helm??? McAmnesty Insane McCain! ANOTHER CFR member (Council on Foreign Relations)
stooge! I say, good riddance!

-Larry Breazeale, Msgt. (ret.) USAFR

National Veterans Coalition
www.nvets.org

]]> by: Phil Sawyer http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-545176 Sun, 23 Mar 2008 14:03:00 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-545176 As I have been saying and writing for a few years now, the Republican Party will be a minor sized party by the year 2012. Just wait and see - or if you are actually in the GOP, get to the lifeboats now! As I have been saying and writing for a few years now, the Republican Party will be a minor sized party by the year 2012. Just wait and see – or if you are actually in the GOP, get to the lifeboats now!

]]> by: paulie http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-542840 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:35:11 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-542840 I have long said that the US should declare victory in Iraq and get out pronto. Should've done it back when Bush declared "mission accomplished." I have long said that the US should declare victory in Iraq and get out pronto.

Should’ve done it back when Bush declared “mission accomplished.”

]]> by: Sean Scallon http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-542491 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:22:58 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-542491 Wow! Mr. Rittberg is already sniffing around McCain's arse like the mangy dog that he is? Who would have thunk it? Wow! Mr. Rittberg is already sniffing around McCain’s arse like the mangy dog that he is? Who would have thunk it?

]]> by: Ronald Monroe http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-542390 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:15:38 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-542390 I am unable to speak for the national situation, but here in Michigan we have over 70 potential candidates so far, where as the last election we had a final total of 34. We are getting both Democrats and Republicans that are jumping ship. What does that tell us? I am unable to speak for the national situation, but here in Michigan we have over 70 potential candidates so far, where as the last election we had a final total of 34. We are getting both Democrats and Republicans that are jumping ship. What does that tell us?

]]> by: Stefan http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-542254 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:01:38 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-542254 Eric, frist of all you are posting off topic posts (this thread deals with the Constitution Party) and your rooting for McCain has nothing to do with any third party watch! As mostly, you are way off base. If the US has already won big in Iraq (remember Bush infamous victory picture), why still stay after 5 years? I mean in any war, as soon as any party has won a battle or war, they go onto the next stage, they do not just stay there, unless they have some neocolonial type interests... which brings us to the crux of the matter here. BTW: The battle for the hearts and minds of the Iraqis have already been lost, it may have been won with the overthrow of Saddam (that could also have been achieved in another, much better way, from the inside namely). All third Parties: CP, LP, Greens etc. have in common that they have been and are against the war in Iraq. (May take on the Wright-issue: it may cost Obama the nomination, he may lose momentum and themajority super-delegates may probably vote for Clinton, but they may also enforce a Clinton-Obama ticket, as they will be afraid of a majority Afro-American "backlash", going to the streets and/or stay at home as well as for his appeal among young voters and Independents and some GOP. McCain's connection to lobbyists is to be exposed further, his emotional unpredictability is a matter of concern as well as his mistakes with connecting Iran with Al Qaeda and this will lead to him being a very weak potential candidate. The GOP should indeed be worried about not only the "backlash" of Evangelical support to the CP (Dobson etc.), but also anti-war GOP constituency as well as conservative GOP support that do no go along with McCain (Newt Ginrich, Rush, defection to the LP etc. They will be facing their worst defeat. With a possible Clinton-Obama vs McCain-Lieberman ticket, third parties may profit much more than usual ). Eric, frist of all you are posting off topic posts (this thread deals with the Constitution Party) and your rooting for McCain has nothing to do with any third party watch! As mostly, you are way off base. If the US has already won big in Iraq (remember Bush infamous victory picture), why still stay after 5 years? I mean in any war, as soon as any party has won a battle or war, they go onto the next stage, they do not just stay there, unless they have some neocolonial type interests… which brings us to the crux of the matter here.

BTW: The battle for the hearts and minds of the Iraqis have already been lost, it may have been won with the overthrow of Saddam (that could also have been achieved in another, much better way, from the inside namely).

All third Parties: CP, LP, Greens etc. have in common that they have been and are against the war in Iraq.

(May take on the Wright-issue: it may cost Obama the nomination, he may lose momentum and themajority super-delegates may probably vote for Clinton, but they may also enforce a Clinton-Obama ticket, as they will be afraid of a majority Afro-American “backlash”, going to the streets and/or stay at home as well as for his appeal among young voters and Independents and some GOP. McCain’s connection to lobbyists is to be exposed further, his emotional unpredictability is a matter of concern as well as his mistakes with connecting Iran with Al Qaeda and this will lead to him being a very weak potential candidate. The GOP should indeed be worried about not only the “backlash” of Evangelical support to the CP (Dobson etc.), but also anti-war GOP constituency as well as conservative GOP support that do no go along with McCain (Newt Ginrich, Rush, defection to the LP etc. They will be facing their worst defeat. With a possible Clinton-Obama vs McCain-Lieberman ticket, third parties may profit much more than usual ).

]]> by: Thomas M. Sipos http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-541989 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 06:05:29 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-541989 Dondero: "the Leftwing Libertarians are willing to throw out the entire Economic Freedom agenda, if it will mean supporting opposition to the War." I've yet to meet a "leftwing libertarian" who wants to toss out the economic freedom aspects of the LP. You're trying to create a left/right split among libertarians that just isn't there. I know both Left and Right libertarians, and they're indistinguishable from each other. Very slight differences in style and emphasis. Dondero, you're <b>not</b> a rightwing <i>libertarian</i>, and you don't speak for rightwing <i>libertarians</i>. Ron Paul is a rightwing <i>libertarian</i> (despite his party affiliation). You, on the other hand, are a supporter of McCain, Giuliani, and Lieberman. Not a libertarian in the bunch. Dondero: “the Leftwing Libertarians are willing to throw out the entire Economic Freedom agenda, if it will mean supporting opposition to the War.”

I’ve yet to meet a “leftwing libertarian” who wants to toss out the economic freedom aspects of the LP.

You’re trying to create a left/right split among libertarians that just isn’t there. I know both Left and Right libertarians, and they’re indistinguishable from each other. Very slight differences in style and emphasis.

Dondero, you’re not a rightwing libertarian, and you don’t speak for rightwing libertarians.

Ron Paul is a rightwing libertarian (despite his party affiliation). You, on the other hand, are a supporter of McCain, Giuliani, and Lieberman. Not a libertarian in the bunch.

]]> by: Dave Williams http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-541985 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 06:01:48 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-541985 I directly supported OIF-OEF, I posses skills that I knew would save lives, that's why I went. I hesitate to even call it a victory...but it did happen, and we must support our beaten down military. And anyone who's ever taken live fire, even for one day, deserves a victory. After all, the troops didn't self-deploy, did they Congress/Bush? So, call it a victory for nothing more than morales sake. It will take years to repair the damage that's been done to our military, our economy and our diplomatic ties with other nations. Let the draw down begin. I directly supported OIF-OEF, I posses skills that I knew would save lives, that’s why I went. I hesitate to even call it a victory…but it did happen, and we must support our beaten down military. And anyone who’s ever taken live fire, even for one day, deserves a victory.

After all, the troops didn’t self-deploy, did they Congress/Bush? So, call it a victory for nothing more than morales sake. It will take years to repair the damage that’s been done to our military, our economy and our diplomatic ties with other nations. Let the draw down begin.

]]> by: Dave Williams http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-541954 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:44:06 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-541954 Oh, and Eric, I'm not for the Iraq invasion...that was and is bullshit. I was for killing terrorists and low intensity conflict only...not nation building for freedoms sake at the end of a gun. And I do not agree with it being our greatest victory...I think that would be WWII &#38; the end of the USSR. Oh, and Eric, I’m not for the Iraq invasion…that was and is bullshit. I was for killing terrorists and low intensity conflict only…not nation building for freedoms sake at the end of a gun. And I do not agree with it being our greatest victory…I think that would be WWII & the end of the USSR.

]]> by: Dave Williams http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-541939 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:31:31 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-541939 Eric, I still think you're a shitbrick for your over the top views concerning shit like torture...or should I refer to the comparison that you made of 'games to torture' on that one thread. Also for your stance on disbanding the LP. That being said, I do agree with this; "They’re in a trap. If they criticize Obama, they align themselves with the Pro-Defense Right against their Leftist America-bashing friends." For the LP to attract middle Americans, they're going to need to purge this party of the radicals, any radicals leaning in any direction. Eric,
I still think you’re a shitbrick for your over the top views concerning shit like torture…or should I refer to the comparison that you made of ‘games to torture’ on that one thread. Also for your stance on disbanding the LP.

That being said, I do agree with this; “They’re in a trap. If they criticize Obama, they align themselves with the Pro-Defense Right against their Leftist America-bashing friends.” For the LP to attract middle Americans, they’re going to need to purge this party of the radicals, any radicals leaning in any direction.

]]> by: Brent Burk http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-541825 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 04:16:53 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-541825 Eric, um, you want to come home now? Wow. Finally!? But, you supported Rudy, and McCain is looking presidential to you. I'm confused. I just read an issue of The New Individualist. You seem to be an Objectivist, at least when it comes to foreign policy, no? Eric, um, you want to come home now? Wow. Finally!?
But, you supported Rudy, and McCain is looking presidential to you.
I’m confused.

I just read an issue of The New Individualist. You seem to be an Objectivist, at least when it comes to foreign policy, no?

]]> by: silver Republican http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-541769 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 03:21:28 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-541769 Well put Mr. Dondero. If more people thought like you, your party could get somewhere. Well put Mr. Dondero. If more people thought like you, your party could get somewhere.

]]> by: Eric Dondero http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-541721 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:46:43 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-541721 Yes Red, I'm all in favor of starting to bring them home. Not all of a sudden, but gradual pull-back. We've won, and we've won big. In fact, it's perhaps the greatest Military victory in the history of the United States, (next to Afghanistan, and perhaps WWII). Yes Red, I’m all in favor of starting to bring them home. Not all of a sudden, but gradual pull-back. We’ve won, and we’ve won big. In fact, it’s perhaps the greatest Military victory in the history of the United States, (next to Afghanistan, and perhaps WWII).

]]> by: Eric Dondero http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-541718 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:45:32 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-541718 Dave, notice how the Leftwing Libertarian crowd is completely silent on the whole Obama mess? Nothing! Tom Knapp - Nothing. Free Liber - Nothing. Reason.com - Nothing. They're in a trap. If they criticize Obama, they align themselves with the Pro-Defense Right against their Leftist America-bashing friends. Funny, the Leftwing Libertarians are willing to throw out the entire Economic Freedom agenda, if it will mean supporting opposition to the War. Dave, notice how the Leftwing Libertarian crowd is completely silent on the whole Obama mess? Nothing! Tom Knapp – Nothing. Free Liber – Nothing. Reason.com – Nothing.

They’re in a trap. If they criticize Obama, they align themselves with the Pro-Defense Right against their Leftist America-bashing friends.

Funny, the Leftwing Libertarians are willing to throw out the entire Economic Freedom agenda, if it will mean supporting opposition to the War.

]]> by: Red Phillips http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-541608 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:28:14 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/19/constitution-party-pronounces-the-gop-dead/#comment-541608 "the Victory in Iraq" Victory? So we can bring our troops home now then, right? “the Victory in Iraq”

Victory? So we can bring our troops home now then, right?

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