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	<title>Comments on: More on Mary Ruwart</title>
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		<title>by: The State</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/25/more-on-mary-ruwart/#comment-549631</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Patient Carl, always spinning.

Thank you.

Love,

The State</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Patient Carl, always spinning.</p>
	<p>Thank you.</p>
	<p>Love,</p>
	<p>The State</p>
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		<title>by: Less Antman</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/25/more-on-mary-ruwart/#comment-549414</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I agree with what Alex said about having to choose issues for focus.  Given all the research she has put into the tough questions, though, I'm pretty sure she'll give straightforward answers on all the issues when reporters bring them up, even if it means having to defend non-monopoly, non-tax supported, non-sovereign immune police and courts.  She will also, as she ALWAYS does with respect to abortion, preface her comment by making clear that some libertarians disagree with her on these issues.  Since she has all her positions easily accessible online at her Ask Dr Ruwart column site, she couldn't hide from them if she wanted to do so, and she has never offered the slightest evidence that she wants to do so.

By the way, my understanding is that her Foreign Policy plank will be far more than just opposition to the war(s), but will emphasize the twin objectives of free trade and military non-intervention, which she'll undoubtedly describe as using win-win strategies instead of lose-lose ones. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I agree with what Alex said about having to choose issues for focus.  Given all the research she has put into the tough questions, though, I&#8217;m pretty sure she&#8217;ll give straightforward answers on all the issues when reporters bring them up, even if it means having to defend non-monopoly, non-tax supported, non-sovereign immune police and courts.  She will also, as she <span class="caps">ALWAYS</span> does with respect to abortion, preface her comment by making clear that some libertarians disagree with her on these issues.  Since she has all her positions easily accessible online at her Ask Dr Ruwart column site, she couldn&#8217;t hide from them if she wanted to do so, and she has never offered the slightest evidence that she wants to do so.</p>
	<p>By the way, my understanding is that her Foreign Policy plank will be far more than just opposition to the war(s), but will emphasize the twin objectives of free trade and military non-intervention, which she&#8217;ll undoubtedly describe as using win-win strategies instead of lose-lose ones. <img src='http://thirdpartywatch.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>by: Alex Peak</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/25/more-on-mary-ruwart/#comment-549220</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Mr. Carl:

I highly doubt she will give any focus to privatising police in her campaign.  It's not a major issue, unlike healthcare, war, and the economy: the three issues her campaign will focus on.  Harry Browne focused on taxes, social security, and the war on drugs: three issues.  Ron Paul focused on inflation and the war: two issues.  Candidates are usually best who focus their campaigns on certain areas.  It's never good to focus too broadly.

It's not &quot;sugar-coating&quot; to not bring up privatisation of police and courts, it's simply common sense not to bother bringing up such reforms that we all know wouldn't get pushed through Congress even if Ruwart &lt;i&gt;were&lt;/i&gt; elected president.  She should, and will, focus on those reforms most needed right now and most likely to get people interested in the broader libertarian movement (which includes minarchists, anarchists, constitutionalists, &lt;i&gt;&amp;#38;c.&lt;/i&gt;), like free-market healthcare and peace.

Yours,
Alex Peak</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Mr. Carl:</p>
	<p>I highly doubt she will give any focus to privatising police in her campaign.  It&#8217;s not a major issue, unlike healthcare, war, and the economy: the three issues her campaign will focus on.  Harry Browne focused on taxes, social security, and the war on drugs: three issues.  Ron Paul focused on inflation and the war: two issues.  Candidates are usually best who focus their campaigns on certain areas.  It&#8217;s never good to focus too broadly.</p>
	<p>It&#8217;s not &#8220;sugar-coating&#8221; to not bring up privatisation of police and courts, it&#8217;s simply common sense not to bother bringing up such reforms that we all know wouldn&#8217;t get pushed through Congress even if Ruwart <i>were</i> elected president.  She should, and will, focus on those reforms most needed right now and most likely to get people interested in the broader libertarian movement (which includes minarchists, anarchists, constitutionalists, <i>&#038;c.</i>), like free-market healthcare and peace.</p>
	<p>Yours,<br />
Alex Peak</p>
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		<title>by: Less Antman</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/25/more-on-mary-ruwart/#comment-549167</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Roderick Long's term was too good not to steal, so Ruwarchy! is now the unofficial home for the unauthorized supporters of Mary Ruwart.  And, just for Carl, I admit to being a market anarchist in my endorsement message on that site.

www.ruwarchy.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Roderick Long&#8217;s term was too good not to steal, so Ruwarchy! is now the unofficial home for the unauthorized supporters of Mary Ruwart.  And, just for Carl, I admit to being a market anarchist in my endorsement message on that site.</p>
	<p>www.ruwarchy.com</p>
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		<title>by: Nigel Watt</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/25/more-on-mary-ruwart/#comment-548923</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Carl, that's a debate that will be very useful to have once the federal government is 1/100 the size that it is now. As it stands, I think we have some very clear directions in which to be moving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Carl, that&#8217;s a debate that will be very useful to have once the federal government is 1/100 the size that it is now. As it stands, I think we have some very clear directions in which to be moving.</p>
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		<title>by: Carl</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/25/more-on-mary-ruwart/#comment-548866</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Alex:

Yes, Mary Ruwart is a &quot;sweet human being&quot;, especially by LP activist standards. And she has done a stand-up job doing her homework in an attempt to reconcile consequentialist and ZAP based libertarian schools.

But there is still an element of spin -- spin which people can see through quickly enough no matter how sugar-coated the words.

Take the privatized police force example cited in her book. She cites an example of privatized police doing a better job than government hired police. An example does not proof make. I have read lefty treatises citing examples of government owned utilities doing a better job than privately owned utilities. Once again, this is not proof.

For the utility example, one must stack up AT&amp;#38;T, MCI, etc. against the wide range of nationalized phone services in other first world countries. Methinks private (regulated) utilities win this one. 

For police and armies, you need to compare the police and militaries of democratically elected governments with a wider sample of private counter examples: campus police, Pinkertons, Vikings, William the Conqueror, slave traders, pirates, militias, death squads, Blackwater, mafias, yakuzai, and your local mall cops. The winner of this comparison is rather unclear to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Alex:</p>
	<p>Yes, Mary Ruwart is a &#8220;sweet human being&#8221;, especially by LP activist standards. And she has done a stand-up job doing her homework in an attempt to reconcile consequentialist and <span class="caps">ZAP</span> based libertarian schools.</p>
	<p>But there is still an element of spin&#8212;spin which people can see through quickly enough no matter how sugar-coated the words.</p>
	<p>Take the privatized police force example cited in her book. She cites an example of privatized police doing a better job than government hired police. An example does not proof make. I have read lefty treatises citing examples of government owned utilities doing a better job than privately owned utilities. Once again, this is not proof.</p>
	<p>For the utility example, one must stack up AT&#038;T, <span class="caps">MCI</span>, etc. against the wide range of nationalized phone services in other first world countries. Methinks private (regulated) utilities win this one.</p>
	<p>For police and armies, you need to compare the police and militaries of democratically elected governments with a wider sample of private counter examples: campus police, Pinkertons, Vikings, William the Conqueror, slave traders, pirates, militias, death squads, Blackwater, mafias, yakuzai, and your local mall cops. The winner of this comparison is rather unclear to me.</p>
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		<title>by: paulie</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/25/more-on-mary-ruwart/#comment-548672</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Rod Long and Alex Peak are correct.</description>
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		<title>by: Alex Peak</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/25/more-on-mary-ruwart/#comment-548652</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Mr. Milnes:

It just seems a bit patriarchal that the presidential candidate has to be a male.  But, yes, I certainly understand your desire to win.

Yours,
Alex Peak</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Mr. Milnes:</p>
	<p>It just seems a bit patriarchal that the presidential candidate has to be a male.  But, yes, I certainly understand your desire to win.</p>
	<p>Yours,<br />
Alex Peak</p>
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		<title>by: Alex Peak</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/25/more-on-mary-ruwart/#comment-548650</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Mr. Carl:

A lot of people avoid the term &quot;anarchist&quot; because it implies support for things that the person might not actually want.  At worst, people think of black-cape wearing, bomb-throwing houligans when they hear the term.  Dr. Ruwart, of course, is not a bomb-thrower, a nihilist, or a nut; but rather a sweet human being who wants people to be secure in their rights.  Moreover, she can appeal to persons from all corners of the political spectrum with her compassionate and pragmatic arguments for Liberty, including the moderates and the radicals.

Ms. Ruwart would be the first to tell you that you do not have to agree with her on everything to be a libertarian.  Just look, for example, how she handles the question of abortion.  Although she personally is pro-choice, she explains that one can be a pro-life libertarian, and that there are principled libetarian arguments on both sides of that fence.

She handles the communication of libertarian ideas delicately, aiming not so much to bash opponents as to win over hearts and minds.  Read her articles, listen to her speeches--you will be impressed. :)

Cheers,
Alex Peak

P.S. I also take issue with your implication that we're on the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Mr. Carl:</p>
	<p>A lot of people avoid the term &#8220;anarchist&#8221; because it implies support for things that the person might not actually want.  At worst, people think of black-cape wearing, bomb-throwing houligans when they hear the term.  Dr. Ruwart, of course, is not a bomb-thrower, a nihilist, or a nut; but rather a sweet human being who wants people to be secure in their rights.  Moreover, she can appeal to persons from all corners of the political spectrum with her compassionate and pragmatic arguments for Liberty, including the moderates and the radicals.</p>
	<p>Ms. Ruwart would be the first to tell you that you do not have to agree with her on everything to be a libertarian.  Just look, for example, how she handles the question of abortion.  Although she personally is pro-choice, she explains that one can be a pro-life libertarian, and that there are principled libetarian arguments on both sides of that fence.</p>
	<p>She handles the communication of libertarian ideas delicately, aiming not so much to bash opponents as to win over hearts and minds.  Read her articles, listen to her speeches&#8212;you will be impressed. <img src='http://thirdpartywatch.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>Cheers,<br />
Alex Peak</p>
	<p>P.S. I also take issue with your implication that we&#8217;re on the right.</p>
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		<title>by: Dave Williams</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/25/more-on-mary-ruwart/#comment-548615</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;I, for one, welcome our new Bullmoose overlords.&quot;

LOL, Roscoe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;I, for one, welcome our new Bullmoose overlords.&#8221;</p>
	<p><span class="caps">LOL</span>, Roscoe.</p>
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		<title>by: Dave Williams</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/25/more-on-mary-ruwart/#comment-548611</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>“The Libertarian Party, the Leninists of the Right”

Carl, it would seem to be true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;The Libertarian Party, the Leninists of the Right&#8221;</p>
	<p>Carl, it would seem to be true.</p>
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		<title>by: Dave Williams</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/25/more-on-mary-ruwart/#comment-548609</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Dan, thanks for half a page of bullshit. Maybe you can borrow BillTx's gun and share one of his bullets...right after Milnes is done sucking on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Dan, thanks for half a page of bullshit. Maybe you can borrow BillTx&#8217;s gun and share one of his bullets&#8230;right after Milnes is done sucking on it.</p>
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		<title>by: Carl</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/25/more-on-mary-ruwart/#comment-548606</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Plus she’s even an anarchist, though she doesn’t trumpet it or use the term. Go Mary!&quot;

Ah yes, be an anarchist but don't tell anyone. Bait and switch, it's the key to being principled.

&quot;The Libertarian Party, the Leninists of the Right&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Plus she&#8217;s even an anarchist, though she doesn&#8217;t trumpet it or use the term. Go Mary!&#8221;</p>
	<p>Ah yes, be an anarchist but don&#8217;t tell anyone. Bait and switch, it&#8217;s the key to being principled.</p>
	<p>&#8220;The Libertarian Party, the Leninists of the Right&#8221; </p>
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		<title>by: Robert Milnes</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/25/more-on-mary-ruwart/#comment-548572</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Roscoe, when do you plan to tell your mother, wife/girlfriend, sister and daughter they can't vote?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Roscoe, when do you plan to tell your mother, wife/girlfriend, sister and daughter they can&#8217;t vote?</p>
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		<title>by: Robert Milnes</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/25/more-on-mary-ruwart/#comment-548569</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Roscoe, come on. War with Germany was in the cards long before TR &amp;#38; the progressives got into power. I'd say that when the national language was decided to be English over German by one vote, that was in the cards. &amp;#38; WW2 is more consensus to have been caused by punitive Versailles Treaty than anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Roscoe, come on. War with Germany was in the cards long before <span class="caps">TR </span>&#038; the progressives got into power. I&#8217;d say that when the national language was decided to be English over German by one vote, that was in the cards. &#038; <span class="caps">WW2</span> is more consensus to have been caused by punitive Versailles Treaty than anything else.</p>
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