Comments on: Reason on Bob Barr, Mike Gravel, Alan Keyes http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/ Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:02:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: Mike Theodore http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-552087 Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:04:15 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-552087 If you ask me, I don't really see why everyone loves Barr. If you look at what he voted for as a congressman, it's far from Libertarian. I think the fact that he was a congressman attracts attention. Personally, I'm a Gravel fan, and I was before he joined the party. If you ask me, I don’t really see why everyone loves Barr. If you look at what he voted for as a congressman, it’s far from Libertarian. I think the fact that he was a congressman attracts attention. Personally, I’m a Gravel fan, and I was before he joined the party.

]]> by: David F. Nolan http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-550751 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:12:25 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-550751 Unfortunately, none of the LP's prospective candidates is exactly a household name in most households. I'd bet good money that well under 50% of the American electorate could tell you who Ron Paul is. Gravel might be identified by 10%, Barr by 3% and the rest would elicit blank stares from 99% of the populace. It's a big country, folks - over 300 million people, of whom probably close to 130 million will vote on Election Day. Having name recognition with 100,000 or 200,000 people doesn't even budge the needle. So let's not kid ourselves that any of our likely Presidential nominees is a "celebrity" who can attract millions of votes just because they're well-known. Unfortunately, none of the LP’s prospective candidates is exactly a household name in most households. I’d bet good money that well under 50% of the American electorate could tell you who Ron Paul is. Gravel might be identified by 10%, Barr by 3% and the rest would elicit blank stares from 99% of the populace. It’s a big country, folks – over 300 million people, of whom probably close to 130 million will vote on Election Day. Having name recognition with 100,000 or 200,000 people doesn’t even budge the needle. So let’s not kid ourselves that any of our likely Presidential nominees is a “celebrity” who can attract millions of votes just because they’re well-known.

]]> by: Roscoe http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-550566 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:54:34 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-550566 15%? Not likely. I asked six people in the office, whom I know to follow politics closely, and not one could identify Bob Barr. Even after I explained, only one even had a vague "I might have heard of him." 15%? Not likely. I asked six people in the office, whom I know to follow politics closely, and not one could identify Bob Barr. Even after I explained, only one even had a vague “I might have heard of him.”

]]> by: Steve LaBianca http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-550347 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:29:20 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-550347 I've said it before; Barr probably has the most name recognition with the general public . . . 15%; maybe nearing 20%. Everybody else, 0 to 10% Barr's problem is getting the nomination. It is going to take a lot of soul searching for national convention delegates to support him . . . my guess is he scores, at the very best 60/60 on the Nolan chart. Of course Nolan chart scores are only a rough indication, but with Ruwart at 100/100, I believe that this tradeoff, the low libertarian score for a little more name recognition (for Barr) is one most delegates won't opt for, IMHO. I won't take that tradeoff, and I WILL be a delegate! Barr, as well as Root need more time to understand and embrace, what libertarianism really is. I hope they both do GET IT in the near future. I’ve said it before; Barr probably has the most name recognition with the general public . . . 15%; maybe nearing 20%. Everybody else, 0 to 10% Barr’s problem is getting the nomination. It is going to take a lot of soul searching for national convention delegates to support him . . . my guess is he scores, at the very best 60/60 on the Nolan chart. Of course Nolan chart scores are only a rough indication, but with Ruwart at 100/100, I believe that this tradeoff, the low libertarian score for a little more name recognition (for Barr) is one most delegates won’t opt for, IMHO. I won’t take that tradeoff, and I WILL be a delegate! Barr, as well as Root need more time to understand and embrace, what libertarianism really is. I hope they both do GET IT in the near future.

]]> by: disinter http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-549990 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:32:13 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-549990 Barr for prez. Gravel for VP. Although Gravel is far from being libertarian, this ticket would do wonders for LP party recognition. A former Repug Rep and Dem Senator running on the LP ticket.... holly shit. Barr for prez.
Gravel for VP.

Although Gravel is far from being libertarian, this ticket would do wonders for LP party recognition. A former Repug Rep and Dem Senator running on the LP ticket…. holly shit.

]]> by: Sivarticus http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-549982 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:05:33 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-549982 Barr needs to get in now while the going is good if he is serious. By mid April, I expect to see him running, if he's going to do it. He may even have a slim shot at a Constitution Party endorsement, alongside a Libertarian nomination. If we could unite both third parties (and maybe even a few more, like the Reform Party remnants and Independence Parties in MN and NY), it would make a splash--this year more than any other. We are seeing many Republicans dissatisfied with McCain. Meanwhile, the left is self-combusting across the board, from the Democrats down to Nader and the Greens. Genuine independents will have no choice but to look to the CP and LP for an alternative. Anything can happen this year. We have a very enraged country like 1992, which will allow third parties to thrive, if only we can line up the right candidates. Barr needs to get in now while the going is good if he is serious. By mid April, I expect to see him running, if he’s going to do it. He may even have a slim shot at a Constitution Party endorsement, alongside a Libertarian nomination. If we could unite both third parties (and maybe even a few more, like the Reform Party remnants and Independence Parties in MN and NY), it would make a splash—this year more than any other. We are seeing many Republicans dissatisfied with McCain. Meanwhile, the left is self-combusting across the board, from the Democrats down to Nader and the Greens. Genuine independents will have no choice but to look to the CP and LP for an alternative.

Anything can happen this year. We have a very enraged country like 1992, which will allow third parties to thrive, if only we can line up the right candidates.

]]> by: Roscoe http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-549973 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:46:32 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-549973 Mary Ruwart has her endorsements up and the first one - as Donderooo warned - is David Bergland. Though I must say she sounds like a great candidate. Mary Ruwart has her endorsements up and the first one – as Donderooo warned – is David Bergland. Though I must say she sounds like a great candidate.

]]> by: George Donnelly http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-549965 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:32:45 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-549965 Neither Gravel nor Keyes really hold a consistent Libertarian philosophy. These are Republicrat rejects. While everyone should be welcome to join the LP and take the pledge, we shouldn't push our own aside just because a celebrity/reject deigns to play with us. Neither Gravel nor Keyes really hold a consistent Libertarian philosophy. These are Republicrat rejects. While everyone should be welcome to join the LP and take the pledge, we shouldn’t push our own aside just because a celebrity/reject deigns to play with us.

]]> by: disinter http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-549952 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:51:21 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-549952 His hometown newspaper, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, reports that the ex-congressman may seek the Libertarian Party's presidential nomination. Already, ex-US senator Mike Gravel has announced as well, meaning the LP will have an interesting and significant convention, and that McWarmonger and Hillbama will not go unchallenged. http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/020216.html His hometown newspaper, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, reports that the ex-congressman may seek the Libertarian Party’s presidential nomination. Already, ex-US senator Mike Gravel has announced as well, meaning the LP will have an interesting and significant convention, and that McWarmonger and Hillbama will not go unchallenged.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/020216.html

]]> by: disinter http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-549948 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:46:58 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-549948 Barr for prez. Gravel for VP. Barr for prez.
Gravel for VP.

]]> by: silver Republican http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-549935 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:19:24 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-549935 Would Ron Paul endorse Barr? Would Ron Paul endorse Barr?

]]> by: NewFederalist http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-549928 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:50:47 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/03/27/reason-on-bob-barr-mike-gravel-alan-keyes/#comment-549928 An extension of the Ron Paul campaign... interesting. An extension of the Ron Paul campaign… interesting.

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