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		<title>by: Steve LaBianca</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-564749</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jim Lesczynski Says:
April 12th, 2008 at 4:08 pm

No big message, just fun. In sharing that anecdote, I mostly just wanted to point out that not all states require write-in candidates to be registered for the votes to count.

Fair enough Jim.  I like fun.  I' ll hopefully see you in Denver.  We met in Atlanta, as I am a former NY LPer, and we sat down for dinner together with others from the NY LP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Jim Lesczynski Says:<br />
April 12th, 2008 at 4:08 pm</p>
	<p>No big message, just fun. In sharing that anecdote, I mostly just wanted to point out that not all states require write-in candidates to be registered for the votes to count.</p>
	<p>Fair enough Jim.  I like fun.  I&#8217; ll hopefully see you in Denver.  We met in Atlanta, as I am a former <span class="caps">NY L</span>Per, and we sat down for dinner together with others from the <span class="caps">NY LP</span>.</p>
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		<title>by: yankeetrader</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-564086</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 06:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-564086</guid>
					<description>Hey Yank Kardashian ain't that good lookin'.

You need to quit yankin' on yourself</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey Yank Kardashian ain&#8217;t that good lookin&#8217;.</p>
	<p>You need to quit yankin&#8217; on yourself</p>
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		<title>by: Yank</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563859</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 03:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563859</guid>
					<description>Kardashian is a tough name to spell but worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Kardashian is a tough name to spell but worth it.</p>
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		<title>by: Michael H. Wilson</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563780</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 02:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563780</guid>
					<description>Tom what would have happened if she had lost to a misspelling?

Sheeeeesh!

MHW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Tom what would have happened if she had lost to a misspelling?</p>
	<p>Sheeeeesh!</p>
	<p><span class="caps">MHW</span></p>
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		<title>by: Thomas L. Knapp</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563416</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563416</guid>
					<description>Jim,

That's cool! I bet the election officials have fun in states that count every write-in, especially if there are multiple write-in instances including the surname &quot;Lesczynski.&quot;

When Tamara was elected City Marshal as a write-in candidate, among the candidates she beat were a couple of misspellings of her own name.

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Jim,</p>
	<p>That&#8217;s cool! I bet the election officials have fun in states that count every write-in, especially if there are multiple write-in instances including the surname &#8220;Lesczynski.&#8221;</p>
	<p>When Tamara was elected City Marshal as a write-in candidate, among the candidates she beat were a couple of misspellings of her own name.</p>
	<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>by: Jim Lesczynski</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563378</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563378</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;I can understand Jim Leczynski’s point of “Whenever I’m dissatisfied with the choices for a given office, I always write in the names of my children and their friends”, but that’s as far as that goes; it doesn’t make a bigger “statement” than not voting for that office, at all. It may be fun, but I don’t think it’s effective at sending a message.&lt;/i&gt;

No big message, just fun. In sharing that anecdote, I mostly just wanted to point out that not all states require write-in candidates to be registered for the votes to count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I can understand Jim Leczynski&#8217;s point of &#8220;Whenever I&#8217;m dissatisfied with the choices for a given office, I always write in the names of my children and their friends&#8221;, but that&#8217;s as far as that goes; it doesn&#8217;t make a bigger &#8220;statement&#8221; than not voting for that office, at all. It may be fun, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s effective at sending a message.</i></p>
	<p>No big message, just fun. In sharing that anecdote, I mostly just wanted to point out that not all states require write-in candidates to be registered for the votes to count.</p>
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		<title>by: 4Liberty</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563353</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563353</guid>
					<description>Hi Wes,

The best test of whether you have learned something well is to see if you can teach it.  Please teach me how to submit comments with the quoted text indented.

Thanks - 

Wes said:
    I’m hoping I learned a posting technique today.

I say:
I did! I did!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Wes,</p>
	<p>The best test of whether you have learned something well is to see if you can teach it.  Please teach me how to submit comments with the quoted text indented.</p>
	<p>Thanks &#8211;<br />
Wes said:</p>
	<p>    I&#8217;m hoping I learned a posting technique today.</p>
	<p>I say:<br />
I did! I did!</p>
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		<title>by: Can't</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563255</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563255</guid>
					<description>Don't despise small beginnings. None of the 3 stooges are acceptable to me. I know nothing of Mr Barr, but am willing to listen. I just heard of this over on Ann Coulter's web site. Am looking for a candidate worth putting my vote on. Will be researching him out. I appreciate all the comments on him that are posted. I believe a 3rd party could do it this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Don&#8217;t despise small beginnings. None of the 3 stooges are acceptable to me. I know nothing of Mr Barr, but am willing to listen. I just heard of this over on Ann Coulter&#8217;s web site. Am looking for a candidate worth putting my vote on. Will be researching him out. I appreciate all the comments on him that are posted. I believe a 3rd party could do it this year.</p>
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		<title>by: Steve LaBianca</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563233</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563233</guid>
					<description>I can understand Jim Leczynski's point of &quot;Whenever I’m dissatisfied with the choices for a given office, I always write in the names of my children and their friends&quot;, but that's as far as that goes; it doesn't make a bigger &quot;statement&quot; than not voting for that office, at all.  It may be fun, but I don't think it's effective at sending a message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I can understand Jim Leczynski&#8217;s point of &#8220;Whenever I&#8217;m dissatisfied with the choices for a given office, I always write in the names of my children and their friends&#8221;, but that&#8217;s as far as that goes; it doesn&#8217;t make a bigger &#8220;statement&#8221; than not voting for that office, at all.  It may be fun, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s effective at sending a message.</p>
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		<title>by: Brad Forschner</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563223</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563223</guid>
					<description>in '04, the requirements to be included in the televised debates was the following;

1. Be on the ballots in enough states to mathematically have a possibility of winning enough votes on the electoral college to win the presidency. The LP has met this criteria, for multiple cycles.

2. (and the more difficult) The candidate in question must be polling at least 15% nationally averaged in polls conducted by several leading media outlets, ie Washington Post, ABC, NYTimes, etc, etc.  Not once has this criteria been met by any third candidate since it's inception.  

Ross Perot was included in the debates during his cycle, because, these stricter rules were put into place after his cycle when the Rs and Ds formed a committee to protect their interests by conducting the debates.

Not to put down Ross Perot, as it was still a major feat that he was included in the debates during his cycle, but the Ds and Rs raised the bar to be in them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>in &#8216;04, the requirements to be included in the televised debates was the following;</p>
	<p>1. Be on the ballots in enough states to mathematically have a possibility of winning enough votes on the electoral college to win the presidency. The LP has met this criteria, for multiple cycles.</p>
	<p>2. (and the more difficult) The candidate in question must be polling at least 15% nationally averaged in polls conducted by several leading media outlets, ie Washington Post, <span class="caps">ABC</span>, NYTimes, etc, etc.  Not once has this criteria been met by any third candidate since it&#8217;s inception.</p>
	<p>Ross Perot was included in the debates during his cycle, because, these stricter rules were put into place after his cycle when the Rs and Ds formed a committee to protect their interests by conducting the debates.</p>
	<p>Not to put down Ross Perot, as it was still a major feat that he was included in the debates during his cycle, but the Ds and Rs raised the bar to be in them.</p>
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		<title>by: Brad Forschner</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563200</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563200</guid>
					<description>1. Let each candidate earn their votes.
2. Let each candidate come up with something better than &quot;if you don't vote for me, the other one will win&quot;
3. Let each candidate who loses the election realize they failed to build support, rather than blaming the loss on some other candidate who was out there building supporters.

As for 08, unless Paul pulls off a Miracle in St. Paul, and gets the R nomination, I'll support the L regardless.  

As for Bob Barr being the L, here in GA I think it would be great. My goal in GA is a 20% for the L to gain Major Party status and full ballot access.  If he gets7% nationwide, great, but my main focus is furthering the party and shooting for a goal locally.

Lets turn the Bob Barr campaign into an L Ballot access campaign.  What are the requirements for ballot access for the L in your state?  the GA goal is 20%, whoever the nominee is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>1. Let each candidate earn their votes.<br />
2. Let each candidate come up with something better than &#8220;if you don&#8217;t vote for me, the other one will win&#8221;<br />
3. Let each candidate who loses the election realize they failed to build support, rather than blaming the loss on some other candidate who was out there building supporters.</p>
	<p>As for 08, unless Paul pulls off a Miracle in St. Paul, and gets the R nomination, I&#8217;ll support the L regardless.</p>
	<p>As for Bob Barr being the L, here in <span class="caps">GA I</span> think it would be great. My goal in GA is a 20% for the L to gain Major Party status and full ballot access.  If he gets7% nationwide, great, but my main focus is furthering the party and shooting for a goal locally.</p>
	<p>Lets turn the Bob Barr campaign into an L Ballot access campaign.  What are the requirements for ballot access for the L in your state?  the GA goal is 20%, whoever the nominee is.</p>
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		<title>by: John C. Jackson</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563101</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I really cant understand the sentiment about any 3rd party &quot;giving&quot; anything to Obama. As if he is worse than McCain. McCain is better on a couple issues but they pretty much cancel each other out. IMHO, McCain and Obama are about even and Clinton is the worst.

I don't see how McCain can appeal to conservatives or libertarians at all, though for slightly different reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I really cant understand the sentiment about any 3rd party &#8220;giving&#8221; anything to Obama. As if he is worse than McCain. McCain is better on a couple issues but they pretty much cancel each other out. <span class="caps">IMHO</span>, McCain and Obama are about even and Clinton is the worst.</p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t see how McCain can appeal to conservatives or libertarians at all, though for slightly different reasons.</p>
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		<title>by: Jim Lesczynski</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563038</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-563038</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;There’s another kind of wasted vote, though, and that’s a vote that is not counted or acknowledged. I don’t know about the other 49 states, but in Missouri unless a candidate states that he is a write-in candidate and registers with the election authority which supervises election to the office in question, write-in votes for that candidate will not be counted or included in any official tally.&lt;/i&gt;

In New York, they definitely count all write-ins without those candidates being registered. (They don't always count them accurately, but that's another matter.) Whenever I'm dissatisfied with the choices for a given office, I always write in the names of my children and their friends, and they get a kick out seeing their names tallied with 1 vote, along with the names of various celebrities, fictional characters and dead presidents, in the certified results from the Board of Elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>There&#8217;s another kind of wasted vote, though, and that&#8217;s a vote that is not counted or acknowledged. I don&#8217;t know about the other 49 states, but in Missouri unless a candidate states that he is a write-in candidate and registers with the election authority which supervises election to the office in question, write-in votes for that candidate will not be counted or included in any official tally.</i></p>
	<p>In New York, they definitely count all write-ins without those candidates being registered. (They don&#8217;t always count them accurately, but that&#8217;s another matter.) Whenever I&#8217;m dissatisfied with the choices for a given office, I always write in the names of my children and their friends, and they get a kick out seeing their names tallied with 1 vote, along with the names of various celebrities, fictional characters and dead presidents, in the certified results from the Board of Elections.</p>
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		<title>by: Yank</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-562998</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-562998</guid>
					<description>Mary Ruwart's position should be on Kim Kardashian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Mary Ruwart&#8217;s position should be on Kim Kardashian.</p>
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		<title>by: Steve LaBianca</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-562970</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/11/bob-barr-polling-nationally-at-seven-percent/#comment-562970</guid>
					<description>I agree with you  Paulie. Though Mary Ruwart's position and support within the LP is somewhat different that every other candidate, I don't think she should simply rely upon her strong support with long time Libertarians.  Evidence of media, sending out press releases, and activity which goes beyond rallying the LP troops at state conventions would have a synergistic effect toward building more support within the LP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I agree with you  Paulie. Though Mary Ruwart&#8217;s position and support within the LP is somewhat different that every other candidate, I don&#8217;t think she should simply rely upon her strong support with long time Libertarians.  Evidence of media, sending out press releases, and activity which goes beyond rallying the LP troops at state conventions would have a synergistic effect toward building more support within the LP.</p>
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