Ruwarchy rocks!

We simply have different priorities. I believe that no matter who the nominee is, the best we can expect is a small step forward . . . 750,000 to 1,200,000 votes will be the best showing any of our candidates will get. Even if true, that W.A.R. could get the 1.2 mil, and Mary Ruwart could only get the 750k, I’ll take the 750k, because it will be more “solid” votes. 1.2 mil for W.A.R. won’t be. I’m done with arguing with you.

Gravel is very strong on civil rights and on social issues. He’s against the war in Iraq, against any aggression against Iran or anyone else. He has a long history of service to this country – ending the draft, ending nuclear testing in the Pacific, building the Alaska Pipeline which results in about 20% of the US oil supply, reading the Pentagon Papers into the public record. WHAT HAVE THE OTHER CANDIDATES DONE? You have Barr, who voted FOR the Patriot Act and the Defense of Marriage Act among others. And then you have W.A.R. who has no government experience and is essentially just a republican. Of the remaining I was more impressed with Jingozian, Ruwart and Phillies than any of the other so-called front runners. But what accomplishments do they have behind them compared to Gravel? Gravel is also able to get some mainstream press as well… He’s attracting more people to the Libertarian party. I think you should pay more attention to him.

You ask:

“will all of you support whomever is selected in Denver.”

That depends on what you mean by “support.”

There are prospective nominees for whom I will/would bust my ass in terms of promoting their campaigns in any way I can. There are other prospective nominees whom I’d probably resolve to mostly ignore (and hope voters in my district ignored as well).

My record in the three presidential elections I’ve been through in the LP has been 100% the former, even when I’ve initially resolved to do the latter.

I can only think of one circumstance (although I’m sure there are others) in which I’d actively attack the LP ticket, and that’s if the presidential nominee pulled the old “withdraw and endorse (or re-endorse, as the case may be) another party’s candidate” trick.

Question, will all of you support whomever is selected in Denver.

I will support any of the frontrunners…Root, Barr, Ruwart, Phillies, Kubby…the rest are pretty much roadkill, including Gravel. CT is on Obama’s cock, so your Q does not apply to this freak of nature.

Where are all those pure libertarian office holders to stop Bush when you need them? When you show me results I’m all there for you big guy. But results matter and I know your tried and true methods haven’t done squat. I’ll take the used car salesman if he’s delivering and he is as far as i can see.

Where’s your girl these days? Where’s anyone that’s been here as long as Root? HA! LOL. As long as Root. He’s been here ten mintues compared to 36 years for your tried and true belivers and already he’s gotten more message out than anyone. Maybe you need to get your girl on Mancow or Beck or WGN or somewhere where there’s a real audience. and oh yes get an endorsement while you’re at it. Pretty sad given her 25 year head start and purist standing.

Where’s she been Steve; show me the money boy. I’ve not seen her on air for what… 25 years now? And now we are supposed to believe she’ll save us from who? A used car salesman….I’m sure I don’t know to whom you refer. I suppose you mean the next Bush? Ha! we’ve been there boy. Got the tee shirt as they say. No thank you. too many people dieing while you figure out how to get off.

Image does sell and who cares who gets credit when there’s only one guy selling I’ll buy him, yes sir. Show me the purist results or shut the heck up.

Oops! another dozen or so people just blew up because we don’t have one stinking bad libertarian in an office that counts. Good work there Steve. Gotta run see another jihadist coming our way…duck. Boom! You got another one.

Maybe that governor you didn’t get elected would have told Bush baby, “sorry ole chap we can’t be sending our mates to your little undeclared war”. yeah. Maybe that guy would have made a difference. But no, we have to wait for a pure libertarian …one Steve thinks is worthy. wow The whole damn country thanks you Steve for choosing our best unheard from loosers.

Was your girl a guest on any media over the past 8 years stopping or trying to stop the war you hate so much? Didn’t see it. Didn’t hear it. They (media) don’t know her form Adam. Root has already eclipsed her contribution. Even if its a last minute conversion its something tangible. Given the clarity of a purist mind I wonder why we are so ignored? Hmm. Can you explain how this used car salesman can get tons of unpaid media? Endorsements? and your beloved purist can’t? Well Steve the LP world is waiting..and waiting and people are dieing.

Wait! Whew that one was close Steve! I think it was a rocket attack that time…I’m okay but those dead kids don’t have to wait any longer for that purist of libertarians to save them…all their troubles are over. Lucky them huh Steve. Can’t be letting no stinking fast talking used car salesman get the ball rolling for the LP. No sir. Got to wait and be saved by a “pure” libertarian. One that Steve likes.

Ouch! Did you see that one Steve? Blew that rotten Marines head clean off. It’s okay. He’s just one of Bushes mercenaries for oil. His kids are better off without that war mongering role model. Maybe now mama can get her self a real man …. one that prefers to watch the carnage on television rather than get his hands dirty trying to get imperfect libertarians elected…like you Steve.

By the way Steve. I haven’t read one thing or heard one thing come from Root that isn’t very libertarian. But I have heard all the crap you ascribe to Root. You know the lies you loosertarians keep repeating because you can’t keep up with that used car salesman.

Don’t worry, the pragmatist will come in now and clean up your mess and relagate you to the what might have been round file. Hope you enjoyed your 36 years of loosing. Now go on and let us clean this mess up.

Steve to read your premise correctly, unless you are born a libertarian you cannot become one. Hmmmm.

After 36 years of the purist we get Bush-wacked. After 36 years of party destruction we get Iraq. Thanks a bunch there cowboy.

So, tell me Steve who is the real war monger? Look in a mirror fool. There’s your answer. But being effective as a political party; that’s not your concern. So, go have a self indulgent party with little Mary and her most recent photo…Oh! she’s not that young anymore….truth in adverstising doesn’t apply to your candidate? Hmmmm.

No Tom, you AREN’T reading my “premise” correctly. Not only is there nothing stating that “libertarian at birth” is a relevant idea, but it is interesting that you take the ACTUAL idea I was talking about and twist it around that I meant that.

No, I was saying only that embracing libertarianism is something which requires a lot of soul searching. The concept that we shouldn’t just pummel the living crap out of the whole Middle East because of what Al Qaueda did requires much thinking, soul searching and reflection. Mr. W.A.R. DID NOT just become a non-interventionist overnight, which seemingly he did, if you believe his rhetoric.

Your second statement is putting blame on “purists” for GWB. That is laughable. Not only do you erroneously believe that W.A.R. can instantly change his mind (boy is he malleable!) about all things libertarian, you think that the electorate, the voters are all going to change their minds in a flash as well. Could it be that you are basically telling us that you’re really talking from inside . . . that YOU were instantly won over by
W.A.R because of his rational, logical, well thought arguments? Not likely. You are taken in by his used-car salesmanship! Hey I have the proverbial Brroklyn Bridge to sell!!

Who is the real war monger . . . look in the mirror? Mary Ruwart is not so young any more . . . all just ridiculous slanders which have no bearing on the cCONTENT of what the two contrasting candidates stand for. Contrasting in the fact that Ruwart has long held a strong grounding in liberty, vs. a johnny-come-lately” LOOK AT ME I’M W.A.R. and I’m here to save the day”. Disgusting, superficial and extremely transparent.

BTW, the fact that YOU put such stock in the Ruwart photo makes you very transparent as well . . . image is everything, marketing the image is just substituted for solid beliefs.

Just like you’re doing a great job at shilling for Ruwart.

Nope. You’re wrong commie. My Glock 21, Mossberg 590 & Armalite AR-15 will save you…I promise.

nI4d is why I will not support Gravel. Democracy is mob rules. No thank you. In fact I believe democracy might be the opposite of what I believe in.I might would vote for Daniel the wacko first. I would even take our friend Robert Milnes first. Gravel is just looking for a place to run and I do thank him for the press he has brought us. The only thing he has going for him is he his against the war. I interviewed him on my radio show a couple of weeks ago and that is when I decided I would not support him in any fashion

After 36 years of the purist we get Bush-wacked. After 36 years of party destruction we get Iraq. Thanks a bunch there cowboy.

So, tell me Steve who is the real war monger? Look in a mirror fool. There’s your answer. But being effective as a political party; that’s not your concern. So, go have a self indulgent party with little Mary and her most recent photo…Oh! she’s not that young anymore….truth in adverstising doesn’t apply to your candidate? Hmmmm.