Comments on: Constitution Party Convention Live http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/ Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:17:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: nogo http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-719195 Sat, 26 Jul 2008 00:25:28 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-719195 clean global boy stone america letter wood go clean stone clean global boy stone america letter wood go clean stone

]]> by: Liberty in Law http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580699 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:11:33 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580699 "...will join the CP with the idea that we can help moderate their most radical views while allying with them on the key issues" That's the interesting part about Keyes supporters and others who disagree with the CP party platform. They think that following the Constitution is radical. That document was designed to "IMPLEMENT" the principles of the DOI; to prevent tyranny and secure the blessings of liberty. It is the systematic deviation from it that has caused our nation's ills. While I don't doubt that the CP may follow the ways of other parties and compromise their principles to get some national exposure (it's human nature), it would be a shame to nominate Keyes. He has proven that he embraces the principles in the DOI, but based on many of his views, which deviate from the party, he does not have confidence in the Constitution. For example, he actually said that he would sign an executive order banning abortion. This shows either a profound misunderstanding of separation of powers and delegated and enumerated powers, or that he really could care less about the document that he will be signing an oath (before the God he keeps talking about) to protect and defend. His speech was full of the same old same old talk about the DOI and empty platitudes. It is clear to me that Keyes would usurp the Constitution anytime that he could justify it with the DOI. This is a recipe for religious tyranny. Have we learned nothing from history? I hope party members that embrace Constitutional principle will not be tricked. "Let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief with the chains of the Constitution." “...will join the CP with the idea that we can help moderate their most radical views while allying with them on the key issues”

That’s the interesting part about Keyes supporters and others who disagree with the CP party platform. They think that following the Constitution is radical. That document was designed to “IMPLEMENT” the principles of the DOI; to prevent tyranny and secure the blessings of liberty. It is the systematic deviation from it that has caused our nation’s ills.

While I don’t doubt that the CP may follow the ways of other parties and compromise their principles to get some national exposure (it’s human nature), it would be a shame to nominate Keyes. He has proven that he embraces the principles in the DOI, but based on many of his views, which deviate from the party, he does not have confidence in the Constitution. For example, he actually said that he would sign an executive order banning abortion.

This shows either a profound misunderstanding of separation of powers and delegated and enumerated powers, or that he really could care less about the document that he will be signing an oath (before the God he keeps talking about) to protect and defend.

His speech was full of the same old same old talk about the DOI and empty platitudes. It is clear to me that Keyes would usurp the Constitution anytime that he could justify it with the DOI. This is a recipe for religious tyranny. Have we learned nothing from history? I hope party members that embrace Constitutional principle will not be tricked.

“Let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief with the chains of the Constitution.”

]]> by: Tom Yager http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580681 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:50:08 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580681 Imperato still has options open to him after the CP convention. He can ask McCain for the VP slot. If that doesn't work, and Clinton and Obama go into the convention without a majority, he can position himself to be the compromise candidate for the Dem nomination. He's already gone through every national minor party- why not try the duopoly? If that doesn't work...Let's see...Peace and Freedom in California (55 Electoral votes); Independence Party in New York (31), Virginia (13), Minnesota (11), South Carolina (8), and Oregon (7); Reform in Florida (27), Kansas (6), Mississippi (6), and Delaware (3); and Progressive Party in Vermont (3). That's 170 electoral votes total. It costs only $500 to get on the ballot as an Independent in Colorado (9) and Louisiana (9). Up to 188. Only 25 signatures to get on the ballot in Tennessee as an Independent (11). Only 800 signatures in New Jersey (15). Only 1000 signatures each in Washington (11), Arkansas (6), Utah (4), and Rhode Island (4). Only 1500 in Iowa (7) and 2000 in Wisconsin (10). With 5000 more signatures in Ohio (21), that's 277, which is enough to demand a podium at the Presidential debates. Once he announces the Papal endorsement in the debate, he's a force to be reckoned with! Imperato still has options open to him after the CP convention. He can ask McCain for the VP slot. If that doesn’t work, and Clinton and Obama go into the convention without a majority, he can position himself to be the compromise candidate for the Dem nomination. He’s already gone through every national minor party- why not try the duopoly?

If that doesn’t work…Let’s see…Peace and Freedom in California (55 Electoral votes); Independence Party in New York (31), Virginia (13), Minnesota (11), South Carolina (8), and Oregon (7); Reform in Florida (27), Kansas (6), Mississippi (6), and Delaware (3); and Progressive Party in Vermont (3). That’s 170 electoral votes total.

It costs only $500 to get on the ballot as an Independent in Colorado (9) and Louisiana (9). Up to 188.

Only 25 signatures to get on the ballot in Tennessee as an Independent (11). Only 800 signatures in New Jersey (15). Only 1000 signatures each in Washington (11), Arkansas (6), Utah (4), and Rhode Island (4). Only 1500 in Iowa (7) and 2000 in Wisconsin (10). With 5000 more signatures in Ohio (21), that’s 277, which is enough to demand a podium at the Presidential debates. Once he announces the Papal endorsement in the debate, he’s a force to be reckoned with!

]]> by: Stefan http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580579 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:25:47 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580579 Is it this one? http://www.imperato2008.com/imperato2008/gallery/pope/index.html Yes, indeed I heard him in LP debate online and he was the only one talking seriously of winning the presidency: quite an ego indeed, but probably a genuine, staunch Catholic. He was not LP no. 2 on the list. The LP is not principally an atheist party, though there would be more atheists, but there are Christians among the candidate and party people also. (Dr. Paul is a lifelong member of both the LP and CP, as far as I know). Aha, I see you are running as a RP C : very good!, wanted to ask. The GOP candidate is the minority leader in congress, right? He (reluctantly?) endorsed McCain... All the very best with your campaign. Wish you can beat Roy Blunt! Is it this one?
http://www.imperato2008.com/imperato2008/gallery/pope/index.html
Yes, indeed I heard him in LP debate online and he was the only one talking seriously of winning the presidency: quite an ego indeed, but probably a genuine, staunch Catholic. He was not LP no. 2 on the list. The LP is not principally an atheist party, though there would be more atheists, but there are Christians among the candidate and party people also. (Dr. Paul is a lifelong member of both the LP and CP, as far as I know).

Aha, I see you are running as a RP C : very good!, wanted to ask. The GOP candidate is the minority leader in congress, right? He (reluctantly?) endorsed McCain… All the very best with your campaign. Wish you can beat Roy Blunt!

]]> by: Katrinka Yobotz http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580562 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:15:22 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580562 You can listen to Alan Keyes' speech, already archived here: Alan Keyes Constitution Party Speech Link: http://archives.alankeyes.com/play.php?mp3=222 You can listen to Alan Keyes’ speech, already archived here:

Alan Keyes Constitution Party Speech
Link: http://archives.alankeyes.com/play.php?mp3=222

]]> by: Travis Maddox http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580527 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:41:25 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580527 Imperato showed me the Pope picture. It was very fuzzy. Not saying it was fake but very possible. He also has some therory about a jew that paid Monica to do Clinton to get the media attention away from what the Jews were doing in the middle east and some how that caused the Iraq War. He lost me for a while so I missed some in the middle. Imp has a very bid ego! Imperato showed me the Pope picture. It was very fuzzy. Not saying it was fake but very possible. He also has some therory about a jew that paid Monica to do Clinton to get the media attention away from what the Jews were doing in the middle east and some how that caused the Iraq War. He lost me for a while so I missed some in the middle. Imp has a very bid ego!

]]> by: Stefan http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580489 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:11:48 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580489 Wow Imperato went from Green, to Reform, to Lp and now CP. Wonder why he has not studied the party base better before deciding on one, impulsive Italian-American? Well, if he will have 250m by November, he may be helpful as a PAC funder and/or run for a congress, but has to improve his political knowledge. Wow Imperato went from Green, to Reform, to Lp and now CP. Wonder why he has not studied the party base better before deciding on one, impulsive Italian-American? Well, if he will have 250m by November, he may be helpful as a PAC funder and/or run for a congress, but has to improve his political knowledge.

]]> by: Stefan http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580471 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:00:13 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580471 Mary Starrett is not a VP candidate? She ran as governor in Oregon two years ago. She should run for congress as a Ron Paul Constitutional Party or as an Indepen-dent with endorsement of the CP. There are already a few such candidates. In a three or four party race where there is a strong RP meetup group and grassroot support she may have a good chance to win. The OR primary of the GOP will be in a few weeks with McCain and Paul. Mary Starrett is not a VP candidate? She ran as governor in Oregon two years ago. She should run for congress as a Ron Paul Constitutional Party or as an Indepen-dent with endorsement of the CP. There are already a few such candidates. In a three or four party race where there is a strong RP meetup group and grassroot support she may have a good chance to win. The OR primary of the GOP will be in a few weeks with McCain and Paul.

]]> by: Fred C. http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580470 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:59:08 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580470 So Imp's completely out of the LP now? So Imp’s completely out of the LP now?

]]> by: Fred C. http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580465 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:54:53 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580465 I dunno, I think Imp's dissapointing a bit. I did enjoy the laughter when he gave his miracle line :D I dunno, I think Imp’s dissapointing a bit. I did enjoy the laughter when he gave his miracle line :D

]]> by: SUPER DUPER FAKE Texan http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580464 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:54:23 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580464 lol I heard that too! Imperato is Mr. Name Dropper! THE LORD is talking to him becaue he was picked number 8, which is his hoickey number so this is proof to him that God is in control. WOW lol I heard that too! Imperato is Mr. Name Dropper! THE LORD is talking to him becaue he was picked number 8, which is his hoickey number so this is proof to him that God is in control. WOW

]]> by: Stefan http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580461 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:52:40 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580461 Yes, Keyes is a great speaker again, just like Obama (they faced each other in senator race in IL). Now Imperator also speaking. Hmm so he is a new livelong member of the LP and now also the CP? He has supposedly lots of $$$ so he could contribute to you. A staunch Catholic, wonder if he will also try the GP. He should be closer to the CP than the LP. Yes, Keyes is a great speaker again, just like Obama (they faced each other in senator race in IL). Now Imperator also speaking. Hmm so he is a new livelong member of the LP and now also the CP? He has supposedly lots of $$$ so he could contribute to you. A staunch Catholic, wonder if he will also try the GP. He should be closer to the CP than the LP.

]]> by: Austin Cassidy http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580459 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:51:24 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580459 Imperato just said something about a picture of himself with the Pope and George Washington. How did he swing that? Imperato just said something about a picture of himself with the Pope and George Washington. How did he swing that?

]]> by: Austin Cassidy http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580457 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:50:52 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580457 Wow, I'm really enjoying Imperato's speech. :) BTW, I haven't been following this as closely lately... what day is the vote? Wow, I’m really enjoying Imperato’s speech. :)

BTW, I haven’t been following this as closely lately… what day is the vote?

]]> by: John Lowell http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580456 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:50:32 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/25/constitution-party-convention-live/#comment-580456 Dave Mundy, Your condescension toward those in the CP sounds much like that of Von Papen who thought that the Nationalists in the immediately pre-National Socialist German governments could make an "employee" of Hitler if he were made Chancellor. Were you intending to make an employee of Howard Phillips? Dave Mundy,

Your condescension toward those in the CP sounds much like that of Von Papen who thought that the Nationalists in the immediately pre-National Socialist German governments could make an “employee” of Hitler if he were made Chancellor. Were you intending to make an employee of Howard Phillips?

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