Also, they push this Judeo-Christian values thing. I guess that claim would be true if the believe in one god is Judeo-Christian but it is also Islamic and Zoroastrian. The founders believed in one god, yes, but not a Christian one. Jefferson and others envisioned a prime mover, a creator, who had little to do with everyday life. The claim that the country was founded on Judeo-Christian values is not completely accurate but has not stopped politicians from using the line for everything from American Imperialism, at the turn of the century, to the restrictive social legislation seen today.

The Constitutionalist Party really does not represent the original intent of the document but instead perverts it like the Dixiecrats of old. Keyes fits in with his strong faith in a Christian god but I am not surprised they did not nominate a black presidential candidate. It just seems like that kind of party.

= You never read the California Statesman, have you Ben?

The night before the vote, Keyes, talking to a group until late hours and answering some questions I asked him, painted a picture of not needing the CP or the headache of another campaign, having been invited by the CP, and then being surprised to have people rejecting his participation. He never even hinted that Phillips had told him not to come, and why—I found that out the next morning from Phillips.

During that evening conversation, Keyes clearly implied that depending on the outcome he would have to decide whether to tell his supporters whether “the spirit was really [in the CP].” Immediately after the vote, Keyes campaign manager Tom Hoefling was trashing the CP to a KC reporter. So I guess they decided.

It is most unfortunate that due to personal egos and agendas, people think someone was slighted. There will be much misinformation spread, and that will only hinder the cause for which we care. I’d encourage anyone who sees such to give the accurate story.

Mitch Turner, CP-Va State Committee, CP National CommitteeI can be reached through the CPV website at http://constitutionpartyva.com.

But you are right, had Keyes been the nominee, the Party would have fractured. The unifying move was in denying Keyes the nomination.

Howard Phillips WAS encouraging party unity. He showed several areas where Keyes was not in line with the CP. How can they have UNITY when they disagree on several important issues? Accepting Keyes would not have been unity, it would have been DIVISION. And it’s better to be divided by truth than united by error.

Several people said it was an inappropriate time for Phillips to undress Keyes. Well, when would have been an appropriate time? AFTER the vote?

Are you sure that was the Keyes group? That was done by Mr. Venable of Idaho, and he was quite a solid CP guy (and from a Trent Hill comment, I presume a Baldwin supporter). The focus was on clarifying the platform into founding documents, and moving the existing platform into statements of the CP.

Left-wing Third parties and divided third parties like the LP are worthless until the Fringe Alliance strategy comes about. Right-wing third parties like the CP are important in bringing the left to power. Look at Perot.

Not to my knowledge GE, although I think Paul’s and Buchanan’s recent statements on the matter really affected that alot.
But to my knowledge, no CPer except perhaps a few of the WWII vets, feel WWII was “Good war”