Comments on: Last thoughts on Kansas City http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/ Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:52:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: Trent Hill http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-589919 Fri, 02 May 2008 21:04:20 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-589919 Too bad. Im calling you Timmy. =) Too bad. Im calling you Timmy.

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]]> by: citizen1 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-589862 Fri, 02 May 2008 20:07:52 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-589862 Trent, That is a reversal of what he had said Saturday. He did not know that Keyes intended to keep running when he talk to me. Steve is being much more honorable than Ed Noonan though. One thing to remember is that Steve came to the CP because he wanted Keyes to be the candidate, so leaving and following Keyes is not surprising. He isn't even taking what he build as small as that might be with him. I do agree with him about the Howard's comments on the Fair Tax. I said that immediately. Not that the Fair Tax is without its problems. There are misrepresentations in the Fair Tax Book. Oh, and I prefer Timm. Trent,
That is a reversal of what he had said Saturday. He did not know that Keyes intended to keep running when he talk to me. Steve is being much more honorable than Ed Noonan though. One thing to remember is that Steve came to the CP because he wanted Keyes to be the candidate, so leaving and following Keyes is not surprising. He isn’t even taking what he build as small as that might be with him.
I do agree with him about the Howard’s comments on the Fair Tax. I said that immediately. Not that the Fair Tax is without its problems. There are misrepresentations in the Fair Tax Book.
Oh, and I prefer Timm.

]]> by: Sean http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-589550 Fri, 02 May 2008 14:52:22 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-589550 You can find it from the horses mouth in the comments of : www.thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/27/an-open-letter-to-the-constitution-party/#comments You can find it from the horses mouth in the comments of : www.thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/27/an-open-letter-to-the-constitution-party/#comments

]]> by: Trent Hill http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-589189 Fri, 02 May 2008 05:31:11 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-589189 Timmy, Call him. I promise he has dropped out. I forgot where I saw the message,but i promise he has decided to not support the party. Timmy,

Call him. I promise he has dropped out. I forgot where I saw the message,but i promise he has decided to not support the party.

]]> by: citizen1 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-589100 Fri, 02 May 2008 03:01:15 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-589100 Trent, I do not see anything on his site that sats that. The latest post an his site is April 17. I talk to him at the 'ball.' He was not enthusiastic but he was going to continue. He was looking for a way to get young people involved. He thought about calling it the Cool Party. Trent,
I do not see anything on his site that sats that. The latest post an his site is April 17. I talk to him at the ‘ball.’ He was not enthusiastic but he was going to continue. He was looking for a way to get young people involved. He thought about calling it the Cool Party.

]]> by: Sean http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588765 Thu, 01 May 2008 20:53:38 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588765 Keyes got only 300 more votes than my original candidate (Duncan Hunter) who dropped out over 3 months ago! Fred Thompson also dropped out about the same time and did twice Keyes. Thanks for the numbers... Keyes got only 300 more votes than my original candidate (Duncan Hunter) who dropped out over 3 months ago! Fred Thompson also dropped out about the same time and did twice Keyes.

Thanks for the numbers…

]]> by: Trent Hill http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588686 Thu, 01 May 2008 19:39:20 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588686 Citizen1, Saturday when? Becauseif you goto http://www.constitutionpartymd.org/ That guy recently said he wouldnt continue building the party. Citizen1,

Saturday when? Becauseif you goto http://www.constitutionpartymd.org/

That guy recently said he wouldnt continue building the party.

]]> by: citizen1 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588607 Thu, 01 May 2008 18:38:55 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588607 I talked to the MD delegate Saturday and he is interested in building a party. He is disappointed at some of the things that happened at the convention. He is not sure if he will use the CP name and said that he may ask to use another name. This does not sound like someone who will not build a party. I talked to the MD delegate Saturday and he is interested in building a party. He is disappointed at some of the things that happened at the convention. He is not sure if he will use the CP name and said that he may ask to use another name. This does not sound like someone who will not build a party.

]]> by: DaveC http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588600 Thu, 01 May 2008 18:36:48 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588600 Trent, I think the most embarassing aspect of the Texas GOP primary is that Keyes only managed to pull out a 6th place finish in a field of 4 active candidates. John Maccabee - 709,477 - 51.23% Mike Maccabee - 523,553 - 37.81% Ron Paul - 69,954 - 5.05% Mitt Romney - 27,624 - 1.99% Fred Thompson - 11,815 - 0.85% Alan Keyes - 8,594 - 0.62% Duncan Hunter - 8,262 - 0.59% Rudy Giuliani - 6,174 - 0.44% Hugh Cort - 918 - 0.06% Hoa Tran - 623 - 0.04% Uncommitted - 17,668 - 1.27% (Official returns from http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_135_state.htm) The Keyestoners had to really stretch to rationalize that one away. When you consider that even a creature like Larry Kilgore got 79,236 votes in his Senate bid you have to wonder why Keyes couldn't at least capture the Kilgore portion of the electorate. Trent,

I think the most embarassing aspect of the Texas GOP primary is that Keyes only managed to pull out a 6th place finish in a field of 4 active candidates.

John Maccabee – 709,477 – 51.23%
Mike Maccabee – 523,553 – 37.81%
Ron Paul – 69,954 – 5.05%
Mitt Romney – 27,624 – 1.99%
Fred Thompson – 11,815 – 0.85%
Alan Keyes – 8,594 – 0.62%
Duncan Hunter – 8,262 – 0.59%
Rudy Giuliani – 6,174 – 0.44%
Hugh Cort – 918 – 0.06%
Hoa Tran – 623 – 0.04%
Uncommitted – 17,668 – 1.27%

(Official returns from http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_135_state.htm)

The Keyestoners had to really stretch to rationalize that one away. When you consider that even a creature like Larry Kilgore got 79,236 votes in his Senate bid you have to wonder why Keyes couldn’t at least capture the Kilgore portion of the electorate.

]]> by: citizen1 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588595 Thu, 01 May 2008 18:33:35 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588595 Because of the screwed up way my state does voter registration, in part of my town you can register with the state affiliate but not in others. We also have no state dues. So, unless you live in one of the six out of 151 state house districts that we have status you cannot be a member of the state party at this time. Since we no longer have state wide recognition some of our members of our state central committee including executives are not technically members of the state party. The way I currently determine membership is dedication to the principle of the party. Because of the screwed up way my state does voter registration, in part of my town you can register with the state affiliate but not in others. We also have no state dues. So, unless you live in one of the six out of 151 state house districts that we have status you cannot be a member of the state party at this time. Since we no longer have state wide recognition some of our members of our state central committee including executives are not technically members of the state party. The way I currently determine membership is dedication to the principle of the party.

]]> by: SovereignMN http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588571 Thu, 01 May 2008 18:19:01 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588571 When Keyes lost that Maryland delegate showed his appreciation for the CP by saying he would not be involved in building a party in that state afterall. Once again Howard was right. When Keyes lost that Maryland delegate showed his appreciation for the CP by saying he would not be involved in building a party in that state afterall. Once again Howard was right.

]]> by: Sean http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588566 Thu, 01 May 2008 18:14:37 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588566 There were all sorts of loopholes, and special cases going on. So some could do X and show commitment and be counted, and others (apparently those who had disaffiliated like Arkansas IIRC) had to go through the entire process, while others (like Alaska) had something to barter with. If you'll remember, Howard Phillips actually moved to not have Maryland count because it wasn't properly affiliated... Not sure that answers your question though ... There were all sorts of loopholes, and special cases going on. So some could do X and show commitment and be counted, and others (apparently those who had disaffiliated like Arkansas IIRC) had to go through the entire process, while others (like Alaska) had something to barter with.

If you’ll remember, Howard Phillips actually moved to not have Maryland count because it wasn’t properly affiliated…

Not sure that answers your question though …

]]> by: Trent Hill http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588496 Thu, 01 May 2008 17:21:59 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588496 Sean, Then what about the Maryland and Oregon delegates? They were member of the national party,and members of state parties--but their state parties were NOT affilliated with the national party--so I think this sets the obvious precedent. Sean,

Then what about the Maryland and Oregon delegates? They were member of the national party,and members of state parties—but their state parties were NOT affilliated with the national party—so I think this sets the obvious precedent.

]]> by: Sean http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588467 Thu, 01 May 2008 16:58:35 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588467 Trent, My understanding is that you couldn't be a voting delegate unless you were a member of a state party, not the National. Likewise, the Rules Committee just this year changed it so you didn't have to be part of a state party to be a candidate. Trent,
My understanding is that you couldn’t be a voting delegate unless you were a member of a state party, not the National. Likewise, the Rules Committee just this year changed it so you didn’t have to be part of a state party to be a candidate.

]]> by: Trent Hill http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588443 Thu, 01 May 2008 16:35:23 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/29/last-thoughts-on-kansas-city/#comment-588443 kalipay, Iv a decent idea of who you are now. =) We have membership lists and registration lists--and we use both to determine "membership standards". As for recquiring alot of your people--there is a balance that should be struck. We have people who do alot, and people who feel that they cant,so they just show up at a meeting or two, or donate some. Im ohk with that, but we do remind them that while work is important--there is a Republic to save. kalipay,

Iv a decent idea of who you are now. =)
We have membership lists and registration lists—and we use both to determine “membership standards”.

As for recquiring alot of your people—there is a balance that should be struck. We have people who do alot, and people who feel that they cant,so they just show up at a meeting or two, or donate some. Im ohk with that, but we do remind them that while work is important—there is a Republic to save.

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