Comments on: Ed Noonan Betrays Constitution Party

by: Bill Stewart in San Francisco

Tue, 13 May 2008 06:07:09 +0000

As a long-term Libertarian Party member who’s watching outsiders try to take over my own party, and who’s watched years of internal squabbling over principles and personalities, I can both sympathize with you guys and encourage you to get your act together. You need to get beyond that, and while California ballot status is definitely important, since you’re a party based on principles (as the Libertarians and Greens are), you need to make sure not to let yourselves get hijacked.

by: HeadOfSteam

Sun, 11 May 2008 20:01:28 +0000

Alan Keyes was invited and was given the opportunity to be voted on. The majority of delegates voted for Chuck Baldwin. Period.

The people who supported Keyes before Howard’s speech, still supported him after Howard’s speech. The people who supported Baldwin still supported Baldwin. Being invited does not mean you automatically win. He lost on a fair vote.

I don’t think Howard’s speech changed any minds. he did not need to. Alan Keyes was driving people away from voting for him all by himself. Like when he held up the CP platform in front of a crowd of CP delegates and said he could not stand on it.

The only question for Keyes at that point was, then what are you doing here? If you don’t agree with our platform, you can’t be our nominee.

The Constitution Party overcame those that were starstruck by Keyes’ celebrity, for that they need to be commended. Trying to build a party with the fading stars of the Republican Party won’t work. It must be built from the inside with people who are true believers in the platform, like Chuck Baldwin.

Oh, and that speech from Howard, gets a thumbs up from me. Thank you Howard Phillips.

by: RagsterLives

Fri, 09 May 2008 04:29:47 +0000

Frankly the Constitution Party tied a noose around their necks when they invited Keyes to the Party and then allowed the founder to rip, bash, trash, and rudely speak of Alan Keyes. The Constitution Party appears to represent the similar problems of authoritarianism that the Democratic and Republican Party have. This party appears to be headed for the recycle bin. As an independent who is leaning for the Libertarian Party and was interested in the Constitution Party, I almost thought the Constitution Party had some good ides, but the harsh remarks and the appearance of a dictatorial organization have change my mind. The CP has relegated itself to the wannabe party after this last convention.

by: Neddy

Tue, 06 May 2008 23:45:40 +0000

http://sagenruss.dot5hosting.com/aiptexas.org/id1.html
Keyes is trying to break up the CP starting in Texas
BEWARE
of course, he fails everywhere at everything, so it will be more amusing than anything else

by: Trent Hill

Mon, 05 May 2008 06:57:12 +0000

Timothy,

Make sure you attend,details should be forthcoming soon.

by: Timothy Yung

Mon, 05 May 2008 06:46:45 +0000

Hey my college ends late so I could study for finals that weekend California conventions but this is more important. I am thinking about going to the convention. I don’t know all the details but according to Ballot Access News it is supposed to take place at a Denny’s Restaurant(which is pretty ghetto) but it might be changed due to increase interest.

by: Cody Quirk

Sun, 04 May 2008 17:02:21 +0000

...And the IAP voted unanimously to have Chuck Baldwin on their ballot.

by: Karlene

Sun, 04 May 2008 17:00:46 +0000

There is no reason to expose these things unless we feel that they are really needed. I was not there to cut someone down because they disagreed with me philosophically. I also have no reason for revenge or retribution – I suffered no losses (ALAN CERTAINLY HAS!). God is doing his will by displaying to America how utterly powerless Keyes has become. Look at where he was 8 years ago, look where he is now.
However, I will not stand by and watch the Stones and Tom trash the CP and attempt to dismember a group that he was so desperate to join just two weeks ago.

All I will do is play by his game rules. He is a public figure and he must be able to stand in the hot kitchen where truth is cooking.

by: Ben

Sun, 04 May 2008 15:44:28 +0000

Karlene, we hear and read mention of embarrassing insider information, but nobody actually shares this embarrassing information.

by: Karlene

Sun, 04 May 2008 02:05:56 +0000

Just like when I was dissed and banned at the AK website, and I vowed to make sure Alan got almost no votes in TX (I know the media and kept him totally clouded out), I will also make sure his push in TX goes absolutely nowhere.
He will be labeled as a joke (he is) and I have plenty of insider mole information to publicize that will prove it (except in his and Tom and the Stone’s eyes). Some people there are quite naive about who they make “friends” with and what they copy.
I can assure you that AK will get less than one-tenth of his requirement once voting records are verified.

by: Cody Quirk

Sun, 04 May 2008 00:09:37 +0000

Although I cannot speak for my dear friend, I can assure you that Ezola will not be running for a chairmanship of any Constitution Party affiliate.

= Fine by me.

And you’re right Ben, the IAP didn’t disaffiliate, I just got back from the convention.

by: DaveC

Sat, 03 May 2008 18:57:28 +0000

In a year when the electorate is looking for a candidate who is a bridge builder, Keyes has proven himself to be a bridge burner of the first magnitude. Having recently burned his bridges with the GOP he has now lashed out and done the same with the CP. And will any other third party ever be willing to even talk to Keyes now given the risk of having their ballot access pillaged if he doesn’t get his way?

The Keyestoners have now set themselves the task of gathering 100,000 signatures in Texas by May 10 to get him on the ballot as an independent there. Just to add a bit to the chalenge they also need to be signatures of Texans who did NOT vote in the March 3 primary. That’s because Texas has a “sore loser” law that applies to candidates who have already run and lost in a party primary. Perhaps GOD should have guided Keyes to skip the Texas primary but maybe this is just His way of raising the bar to set the stage for a truly impressive miracle. That Gideon thing again. It is so cool that this very month we are all going to be able to witness a genuine act of divine intervention when the Keyestoners pull this one off. Or not.

by: Ben

Sat, 03 May 2008 17:55:21 +0000

The Keyes campaign has been in contact with all CP affiliates in an attempt to get them to disaffiliate from national and place Keyes on their ballot line. The Keyes campaign is actively looking under every rock it can find in hopes that some small political party will get Keyes on the ballot for them.

They are actively spreading rumours that CP affiliates are going to disaffiliate, but then at the same time encouraging all of their supporters to leave the CP. For whatever reason, the IAPNV values its involvement in the CP too much to disaffiliate.

by: Timothy Yung

Sat, 03 May 2008 17:30:34 +0000

I am sorry to hear that. In retrospect the Constitution Party should have disaffliated Nevada. To his credit Chuck Baldwin voted to do that. Anyways I think that is why Ed Noonan wants to disaffliate California he says it is anti-Mormon thing when it clearly was a anti-life issue. But now it wouldn’t matter because Ed Noonan and Chris Hansen are probably going to leave the party. I actually spoke on the phone with the chairman and he said he was trying to get the Nevada affliate to disaffliate too. I wonder if anyone has investigated this yet.

by: RRHeustisJr

Sat, 03 May 2008 15:47:30 +0000

Timothy Yung Says:
I think the chairman should be replaced by Ezola Foster. The 2000 VP running mate of Pat Buchanan. She was some political experience and I think she would support Chuck Baldwin.

Ezola Foster, a personal friend of mine, and I both joined the AIP together in 2002. However, we quickly learned that the party was not for us.

Ezola even threw her hat in the ring to run for Chair in 2004, but Howard Phillips, of all people, urged her to step down so that Mr. Shearer’s daughter could run unopposed! Ezola – then and there – learned what this party was all about, and it certainly was not about Principle.

After the Tampa debacle,, which saw the national Constitution Party surrender to the Mormonist/Pluralist position on the Life issue, Ezola and I both left the party for good.

Although I cannot speak for my dear friend, I can assure you that Ezola will not be running for a chairmanship of any Constitution Party affiliate.