Executive Director Shane Cory resigns from the Libertarian National Committee

From the Libertarian Party:

Executive Director Shane Cory has stepped down this week from his staff position with the Libertarian Party.

“I have come to appreciate his talent and professional performance,” says Libertarian Party Chairman William Redpath, expressing his thanks for Cory’s outstanding service to the LP. “Also, as a personal friend. I wish him well and future success.”

“Shane was very productive and an excellent financial manager,” says Libertarian National Committee member Vice Admiral Michael Colley, USN [Ret.]. “He got the Party back on the right page financially and did very well representing the Party in the nation’s capital. He did well for us, and it’s unfortunately been his personal decision to do something else with his energy.”

“It was a pleasure working with Shane during his time with the Libertarian Party,” says National Media Coordinator Andrew Davis. “He was an asset to the libertarian movement as a whole, and we know he will continue fighting for freedom in this nation with whatever he does next.”

The Libertarian Party is America’s third largest political party, founded in 1971 as an alternative to the two main political parties. You can find more information on the Libertarian Party by visiting www.LP.org. The Libertarian Party proudly stands for smaller government, lower taxes and more freedom.

287 Responses to “Executive Director Shane Cory resigns from the Libertarian National Committee”

  1. Itch Says:

    Shane, dude, you got busted for covering up that shape shifting shemale shit on the lnc, Imperato, and Scratch’s murder.

  2. Jonathan Cymberknopf Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMYTFovjaDg please place this in my space , facebook , spread the word

  3. Sad Lib Says:

    Shane, you did it right. You had the best interest of the party and all our candidates at heart. They owe you more than a debt of gratitude. They owe you their reputations.

    Shame on the LNC. George Phillies is jumping for joy. He outed Ruwart then shifted the blame to Root and now got Shane to resign. George is having a good month. Wonder who he’ll nail next?

  4. disinter Says:

    Thank God

  5. disinter Says:

    Now the LP needs to issue a public apology to Mary Ruwart since Corey didn’t have the balls to do it.

  6. David F. Nolan Says:

    Shane Cory was not, by his own admission, a Libertarian. He was originally hired as a computer jockey, and became National Director when Joe Seehusen resigned. He became convinced that he, and he alone, could set policy for the Party, and kept overstepping his bounds. The final straw was when the national office implicitly slimed one of our Presidential contenders. I only wish Cory had been fired for that, instead of being allowed to resign. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, Shane! (Ooops! I said “ass” and that will set off one or more of the folks who post here.)

  7. Chris Bennett Says:

    Right on David! And to add, there’s one less person on the LP gravy train. Now, what can we do to cut any other unnecessary costs? Wait, we are still in the Watergate building right? Time for a move outta there!

  8. Yank Says:

    Shane had a great ass. His ass will be missed.

  9. Dan Karlan Says:

    Contrary to what Sad Lib wrote, George Phillies had nothing to do with ‘outing’ Mary Ruwart, and he did NOT call for her withdrawal from the race.

  10. God Says:

    To disinter:

    Thanks, but I had nothing to do with it.

  11. Michael Seebeck Says:

    Now hopefully they will kill the Flood resolution and get back on the path to sanity…

  12. Gene Trosper Says:

    Ya think, Michael? ; )

  13. Steve LaBianca Says:

    I expected that something would come of the abhorrent, as well as ill timed press release, but Shane Cory was wrong to issue the release. I am pleased.

    Next up . . . kill the Stewart Flood resolution! This is another ill timed item targeting, and essentially piling on the ridiculous charges against, Mary Ruwart.

  14. Thomas M. Sipos Says:

    Sad lib: “George Phillies … outed Ruwart then shifted the blame to Root and now got Shane to resign.”

    Are you saying that Phillies forced Root at gunpoint to demand Ruwart’s withdrawal?

    Or that Phillies used mind control to force Cory to pen that press release?

    Excuse me, but libertarians believe in individual responsibility. Phillies did not force Root or Cory to do anything. Both men chose their actions, and must accept responsibility for them.

    It’s you who are trying to “shift blame” onto Phillies, for what Root and Cory did.

    I repeat, Phillies, Ruwart, Kubby, and Gravel all look good to me. Any would make a decent LP candidate.

  15. Mike Theodore Says:

    Alright, folks. This is the first step. It’s time for the LP to start shaping up and acting like a real party. They gonna pick a real libertarian for the job this time?

  16. Steve LaBianca Says:

    The pres release is STILL up on the LP website, but I think it should be noted with the release that it isn’t the “Party (that) says steps can be taken to protect children while protecting Internet privacy”, but one Shane Cory or other hired staff member who believes this. I and others are “the Party” and many, of not most dont agree with this.

    I certainly don’t believe that “steps can be taken to protect children” by the federal government. At most, states could cooperate, but the feds have nothing to do with this.

  17. Sad Lib Says:

    Just pointing out the obivious.
    Phillies posted Ruwarts book passage on TPW under his own name. Phillies does have an outpsoken dislike for the LNC. Phillies is a Ruwart opponent. Those are facts Dan. Connect the dots bright eyes.

    Cory wasn’t a lib? Who hired the guy? There’s your real culprit. Off with his head! Wait that would be the LNC, off with all their heads! Who elected the LNC? Off with thier heads too! Now you have a perfect world. See how easy that was.

    Then Yank can touch some dead ass. :) Which is very cool Yank.

  18. Sad Lib Says:

    Mike
    Are they going to step up and pick a real libertarian for the job this time? You don’t want a lib you want an anacrhist.

    I can see it now. Press release by anarchist.

    Yank wants to touch your @#%@&#$@!@&* ass and our presidential candidates want to #%@$*@(*@ your children which is *&@% right to consent.
    signed
    the none of your &$#(&^*%%$%$# business committee for clarity.

  19. Mike Theodore Says:

    Sad Lib,

    I don’t want a bloody anarchist. I’m just saying that the Executive Director shouldn’t have been abusing power like he was.

  20. Flyer Says:

    The Libertarian Party is D.O.A.

  21. Committee for Clarity Says:

    Sorry Mike we want to make it clear that Mike does not want a bloody anarchist. He wants someone under control of ????? that’s still unclear Mike.

    We suggest Nolan step up and get this &#$*@*&(* party back in order. After all he is the most high keeper.

  22. Committee for Clarity Says:

    Steve
    Wow. Mike you better make sure that Nolan makes Steve happy with every press release or it will be his head.

    Then Yank can touch Nolan’s ass without fear of touching a god inapropriately since Nolan’s ass gave him permission to touch it by being dead.

    Very brave Yank. Admire your stuff big boy. You are one cool ass toucher.

  23. Committee for Clarity Says:

    We want to make it clear that Flyer thinks the LP is Dead on Arrival. Ya gotta spell it out for these folks Flyer.

    Perhaps you would care to elaborate? We find the LP to be very much alive and exciting and kicking and screming and whinning, and butt touching.

    D.O.A. (Dead Old Ass) makes Yank happy.

  24. Stewart Flood Says:

    I’m not sure why you say to “kill the Stewart Flood resolution.” There was no vote on any resolution, nor is there any resolution under consideration.

    The draft resolution that was leaked was published on TPW more than 24 hours after it was withdrawn from consideration to make changes. No subsequent motion was submitted by anyone.

    Check your facts before trying to kill something that doesn’t exist.

  25. Michael Seebeck Says:

    In other words, Stewart, it was publicized after it was killed? Why draft such a bad resolution in the first place? Oh, yeah, it was in light of the Ruwart comments—IOW, interfering unethically where it should have not been done.

    And it was never published on TPW either; I found out about it from a different source, so perhaps YOU should get your facts straight.

  26. John S. Says:

    Good luck Shane.

  27. paulie Says:

    Before everyone starts celebrating (or weeping and gnashing their teeth), kindly consider that you may change your opinion once you learn who’ll get the job next (and then see their performance in office).

    To my knowledge, it is not an open hiring process.

    Good luck to Shane in his future endeavors.

  28. paulie Says:

    Mike
    Are they going to step up and pick a real libertarian for the job this time? You don’t want a lib you want an anarchist.

    (Sigh) someone should really explain to some of these folks that these are not mutually exclusive categories. For example, I’m both. So are many other people.

  29. Bill Wood Says:

    Shane, I wish you all the best. You had a tough job,with very few rewards thanks for putting up with all the BS for as long as you did.

  30. Committee for Clarity Says:

    To be clear: No ones knows or avows any knowledge of facts surrounding said resolution that does not exist. Claims from two member of the LP that they touched or saw said figment of their imaginations are at best unclear and deeply confusing to the committee. We will there for out of necessity try to clarify the record for which no record exist.

    We have it on good authority that said resolution called for all candidates to tell the truth, the whole !@**& truth, and noting but the *&@&$ truth. Accept those we like of course. And us.

    The committee for clarity. Which doesn’t exist either.

  31. Steve LaBianca Says:

    Stewart Flood Says:
    May 3rd, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    There was no vote on any resolution, nor is there any resolution under consideration.

    The draft resolution that was leaked was published on TPW more than 24 hours after it was withdrawn from consideration to make changes. No subsequent motion was submitted by anyone.

    So, there is no “Stewart Flood” resolution . . . 2 DOWN! BTW Stew, anything you submit after “changes” are made, will likely be DOA! THAT, would make 3 down!

  32. paulie Says:

    If anyone has any resolutions to suggest to the LNC to pass, I suggest they submit them to the entire convention instead, seeing as how we are meeting in a few weeks and all.

  33. Steve LaBianca Says:

    Bill Wood Says:
    May 3rd, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    “Shane, I wish you all the best. You had a tough job,with very few rewards . . .”

    Getting paid isn’t reward enough? Virtually all the rest of us do this in our spare time and for no reward other than working for the elimination of force and fraud. Well, eliminating Cory from the LP national office is a start on eliminating fraud.

  34. Steve LaBianca Says:

    Committee for Clarity Says:

    VERY FUNNY THINGS! LOL

  35. Committee for Clarity Says:

    To be clear
    The committee senses some remorse for the premature discharge of glee over said directors departure and a creeping realization that one of them may inherit the job or that it may go to a neo con pretending to be a libertarian or worse David Nolan may come in and starting kicking butt. No one ever argues with a god afterall.

    Seems the masses, here in represented by the very few who have no friends, are short on empathy for someone who just resigned their job over a principled stand in a party of principle.

    We wish Mr. Cory happy trails. We will keep Yank from grabbing your ass as you exit stage right. Hopefully, you will find far more meaningful and honest employment that you found here.
    The Committee.

  36. Idiot Says:

    LaBianca,

    Spending more than 40 hours a week dealing with whiny, angry, rude, socially-retarded members is pretty taxing.

  37. Guy Fawkes Says:

    I most whole heartedly and sincerely agree with the committee for clarity.

  38. Yank Says:

    Which ever ass replaces Shane’s better as good or better. He has a great ass. Hope his ass is appreciated by others as much as I appreciated it.

    Shane had to deal with many flat and saggy asses as well as some completely assless libertarians.

    With Shane gone, which ass will lead the way?

  39. Yank Says:

    How is Guy Fawkes’s ass? I like old ass.

  40. Committee for Clarity Says:

    To be clear
    Paulie has outted himself claiming to being conflicted about his orienttion. He appears to be a translibarchist. He seems to be laying the subtle ground work to be a candidate for Cory’s ultra high paying whore job while the body is still warm. The husk is not even cool enough for Yank to play with. We fear this (oreintation mess) will hamper Paulie’s employment score with the LNC. They want clear thinking that everyone can appreciate. Like Nolan.

    The committee recomends you seek help by barrowing one of LaBianaca’s Tony Robbins tapes and find your inner child. Oops that’s a different cool aide slinger. Oh well we wish you well Paulie in your quest for the ED job. But remember we will be here to clarify your every move you @#@$$% bureaucrat.
    We mean it too.
    The committee.

  41. paulie Says:

    Yank my phone.

  42. Pat Says:

    “Getting paid isn’t reward enough? Virtually all the rest of us do this in our spare time and for no reward other than working for the elimination of force and fraud.”

    Ah yes, the wonderful pay that comes from working for a non-profit. It’s a good thing the private sector doesn’t pay more than non-profits, otherwise you would only be left with passionate and idealistic people working in non-profits.

  43. Liberated Woman Says:

    David F. Nolan Says:
    “... Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, Shane!”

    Wow! A founder gloating over losing Cory who was ED during a time that the LP attracted a former congressman and senator from opposite sides of the aisle. (Itch, Yank, is that manly? does that involve ass?) Is the LP a pointless debate society?

    Will the delegates give me someone I will be proud to promote with a yard sign and bumper stickers?

    The answer will, ironically, be determined the day before Memorial Day. “This holiday commemorates U.S. men and women who have died in military service to their country.” (from wikipedia)

    Yank, Itch, please make this funny.

  44. johncjackson Says:

    The problem is, as David Nolan explained, Cory overstepped his bounds.

    There are certainly some positions where non-libertarians should be considered for employment but they should not be setting the policy of the LIBERTARIAN Party in an un-libertarian way.

  45. Steve LaBianca Says:
    1. Pat Says:
      May 3rd, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    “Getting paid isn’t reward enough? Virtually all the rest of us do this in our spare time and for no reward other than working for the elimination of force and fraud.”

    Ah yes, the wonderful pay that comes from working for a non-profit. It’s a good thing the private sector doesn’t pay more than non-profits, otherwise you would only be left with passionate and idealistic people working in non-profits.

    That’s pretty funny too . . . I’ve been there for working in a not-for-profit.

    Pay is pretty much low to average, but hey I wonder how many of us would take that low to pay to work in a way that gives a lot of personal satisfaction as well? If I was in Cory’s position, I’d have been a lot more discrete about what I said. He deserved this.

  46. Committee for Clarity Says:

    To be clear:
    There is only one choice for ED (without pay of course). That choice is David Nolan. Our founder who wants no rules but his to apply. We agree. That way the committee can continue to serve a much needed role of clarifiying your pathetic post to the satisfaction of Nolan’s persceptions of right and wrong.

    One voice strong and clear.

    The committee.

  47. Peter Orvetti Says:

    Will there be a new Exec Director before the convention?

  48. Mike Theodore Says:

    Peter,
    I’m guessing they’ll be like an acting one or something. The new LNC chair will pick his choice. It’s only like 19 days…

  49. Committee for Clarity Says:

    johncjackson Says:

    May 3rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm
    The problem is, as David Nolan explained, Cory overstepped his bounds.

    To be clear;
    All this talk and speculation about replacing Shanes ass is a waste of time. David Nolan is taking over for clarity sake. Johncjackson can see the truth. Paulie you better shape up boy. Yank…Nolans got an old sagy ass. You’ll love it when he dies and you can touch it.

    The committee. ONE VOICE!

  50. Todd Andrew Barnett Says:

    For those who want to know, I have blogged about Shane’s resignation from his Executive Director post. It’s here at http://letlibertyring.blogspot.com/2008/05/praiseworthy-resignation-of-lp.html.

    Let me know what you think. If I have any written any inaccuracies and want to clear it up with me, please email me at ToddAndrewBarnett@gmail.com or post it on my blog.

    Thanks!

  51. Todd Andrew Barnett Says:

    I echo David F. Nolan’s response to all of this. I even applaud him for repudiating what Shane Cory and the other cronies involved in this smear against Mary. Having said that, David should be applauded for his integrity, dignity, and honesty.

    David, if you can, email me in private. I’d like to talk to you about something.

    Thanks!

  52. The Democratic Republican Says:

    Well, you radical a-holes finally got what you wanted. I guess since Nolan is such a genius about any and all things political and libertarian, this would be a great time for him to actually contribute an original idea or two. If he’s capable of it.

    Ooh—better yet—he could go after the job! Liberate his old party that he did such a great job of leading!

    P.S.—The Nolan Chart sucks. A total sham. Ridiculous that people would ever judge who is and isn’t a libertarian by that piece of crap.

  53. Committee for Clarity Says:

    To be clear:
    On the post following the Root endorsement announcement we challenged the posters to produce the endorsements that any of the other candidates have recieved.

    Phillies got the Outright Libertarians endorsement. That’s one.

    LaBianca is still diging throuh his Tony Robbins tapes looking for Tony’s signed copy with his phone number on it.

    So, where are all the endorsements? There are over a dozen candidates out there. Who is Ron Paul endorsing again?

    The committee feels that endorsements are a waste of time since no one knows anyone that’s doing the endorsing. That may be caused by a lack of outdoor time in the real world of course but Nolanites are happy without endorsements since they (he) is the only arbiter of what’s valuable, libertarian, and whats not.

    The committee salutes the Nolanites, they’ve progressed beyond the need for making friends and gone straight for the truth. It has served us well these past 36 years.

    the committee.

  54. The Democratic Republican Says:

    oh—and Todd Barnett is getting a great jump on brown nosing with the next Great Leader.

  55. Eric Garris Says:

    Shane was hired at $30,000 a year to be the LP webmaster. After a couple of years of attrition and strict adherence to the Peter Principle, he was elevated to the $80,000 a year job as Executive Director. I don’t believe that libertarian principles was a job requirement, and that is the other big problem.

  56. twiddlebee Says:

    At this point in time, my main concern is, what financial burdens do we have to sustain as a party after his resignation? As a financial administrator, was he generous with his own pension plan?

  57. The Democratic Republican Says:

    I would like to become a member of the Committee for Clarity.

  58. The Democratic Republican Says:

    “Libertarian principles”—you people keep saying he didn’t have “libertarian principles”? According to who? Just because they aren’t your principles doesn’t mean they’re not libertarian principles.

    If you fundamentalists actually ever had any political power, I don’t care what you say about the non-aggression principle—you have the exact personality and moral make-up of a violent group like the Taliban.

  59. Geoffrey the Liberator Says:

    Bravo Shane for all of your hard work on behalf of the USLP. We at the UKLP appreciate all you have done to grow liberty on your side of the pond. Good luck and well wishes for your future. We look forward to your encore!

  60. The Democratic Republican Says:

    Wow, Todd Barnett, great blogging. All of this because they dared to screw with Ruwart’s “libertarian principles” on child porn. For the last time: her principles on the matter are not libertarian. They show how stupid, igorant and morally repugnant her ANARCHIST principles are. The fact that you can’t separate anarchy from libertarianism reveals your ignorance of the wider world around you.

  61. Committee for Clarity Says:

    To be clear:
    Mr. Fawkes; The committee loves serious sucking up. Now watch your ass; Yank is on the move.

    Mr. Dem/Rep: While you have come close to getting our approval (when you suggest the Nolan be put in charge of our thoughts and beliefs) we must caution you about casting bad karma towards the Nolan’s chart. That friend will land you in serious trouble with the Nolan. The Nolan made the chart. It is bigger than the ten commandments. To be clear this is sacred territory and must not be challenged. It is the single most important piece of libertarian propaganda in the movement. It is a sacred sound bite that many upon seeing it are converted into Nolanites. We all know that sound bites are the way the world works today. This is the Nolan’s contribution to the cause of liberty in some ones life time.

    Nolan bless us.
    The committee.

  62. Committee for Clarity Says:

    To be clear
    Membership on the committee is strickly controlled by the Nolan. He and he alone descides membership. Many are called but few, very few, are ever chosen.

    Regarding Mr. Barnetts blog we must admit he is clear. He is a faithful Nolanite and we applaude his clarity. He smply distains children like the Nolan. They are little more than an annoyance to adults who are permitted to use whatever means they choose to get them to do their bidding as long as the little shits consent.

    Remember Dem/Rep we take our charge very very seriously. Clarity is the new mission of the LP. The Nolan has spoken through us. Now, bow your head.

    Nolan bless us.
    The committee.

  63. Todd Andrew Barnett Says:

    Democratic Republican:

    You can say what you will about me, but the fact remains that you are a statist coward for not revealing your true identity. You are a vile, diabolical sycophant who worships the state at every turn. I do NOT associate with despicable, thuggish pricks such as you, nor do I want to be associated with the likes of you.

    Your ignorance of true libertarian principles shows that you know nothing about the libertarian philosophy. You are a Libertarian in Name Only. You are an embarrassment to the party, sir. Such comments like me having a “great jump on brown nosing with the Great Leader” and not able to “separate anarchy from libertarianism” because it reveals “[my]ignorance of the wider world around [me]” are proof that you are a shill for Wayne Allyn Root, possibly even with the necons inhabiting this party, the Democratic Party, and the Republican Party.

    A wretched cretin such as yourself makes me regurgitate.

  64. Committee for Clarity Says:

    To be clear
    Mr. Barnett does not appreciate Mr. Dem/Rep view of his political beliefs. They seem to be at an impass.

    Mr Barnett has hurled.

    The Nolan approves.

    The committee.

  65. Todd Andrew Barnett Says:

    Committee for Clarity:

    What is that supposed to mean? How am I “a faithful Nolanite”? I do not worship David Nolan, nor do I consider myself a Nolanite.

    How dare you attack me, sir, when I’ve been a member of the Party a hell of a lot longer than you have??? I’ve done MORE for this Party than you ever have in your goddamned life, pal! You and your slimy pal Democratic Republican have no business attacking me when I’m not the one who attacked you in the first place. If that’s the bullshit attitude you’re gonna play, then I’m sorry, but you have no business being in the LP, as you are neocons, support statism, and have no clear understanding of libertarian ideology.

    This nonsense that you and your allies “admit [I’m] clear” is just that….claptrap. You admit nothing. While you haven’t admitted that you’re a shill for Root or Barr, you certainly sound like you are.

    Do not even attempt to insult my intelligence. I have never smeared you, and I don’t expect to do it now. But you and Democratic Republican’s attempt to smear me has proven to me that the LP has been taken over by neocons who are looking to destroy it. You and your cronies are your own worse enemies.

    It’s always about attacking us for our principled stands, yet there’s no consistent principles in your thinking. More than that, there’s no rationality, no civil discourse, or even a civilized debate.

    Shame on you, sir. Shame on you!!

  66. Guy Fawkes Says:

    Prepare for the purging of the anarchists. Three more weeks.

    Then…. goodbye… and good riddance.

  67. Todd Andrew Barnett Says:

    I will not dignify Committee for Clarity’s disgusting remarks with a response. Not only that, I will not give him the time of day.

    It’s that simple.

  68. Todd Andrew Barnett Says:

    Translation of Guy Fawkes: We want to be like the Republicans and Democrats. We are statists. We pretend to be libertarians. We’re shills for the major parties. We don’t like purists, and we want them out of the Party, and that will happen in three weeks.

  69. Guy Fawkes Says:

    Exactly, the communist statists have invaded and taken over! They want insane non principled things like winning elections and fighting ballot access! Those insane statist pigs! How dare they compromise their principles by actually being a political party! Traitors! :)

  70. Todd Andrew Barnett Says:

    Well, you heard it folks: you heard the hardline statist religion of the individual named Guy Fawkes.

    At least he admits he’s a poser in the Party, just like his other colleagues.

  71. Yank Says:

    Guy Fawkes, if you purge the anarchists, you won’t have much good ass left. Alicia Mattson has a hot face but no ass at all. The rest is man ass but it’s a mixed bag. Shane Cory had the best reformer ass.

    All the good ass is radical ass. That has to change. I want to work with libertarian ass all over the libertarian quarter of the Nolan chart. All libertarian ass should be included.

  72. Committee for Clarity Says:

    to be clear:

    Mr Barnnett has taken umbridge with our casting him as a Nolanite. We appologise. No offense was intended but we do stand on our premise you are very clear in your post and on your blog. Now, you are clear with regards for your independence of the Nolan.

    The committee has offered a Noaln prayer for you. We understand what it must be like to be without a political home. Or worse, a home invaded by the likes of heathens such as Mr Fawkes and Mr. Dem/Rep. They are clear only in that they do not care for you either. So, sad. we had hopes of giving Yank some of your ass.

    While you wander the political landscape looking for your new home we suggest you wipe your mouth. Vomit is not attractive even on a exNolanite.

    A traitor sir is one who turns his back on the Nolan.

    the committee has spoken.

  73. Committee for Clarity Says:

    to be clear:
    YANK! The committee feels after scrutinizing your every post that you are the most clear of all the Nolanites. You are a true believer in ass above all. Which (forgive us for speculating) maybe an editass condition which drives you relentlessly for more and more. A serious but relatively harmless addicition which we will be happy to feed.

    The Nolan wants you to know he totally believes in ass. Even has a big one of his own which he flashes on occasion.
    Given the Nolan is aging fast he may die soon and we the keepers of the Nolan will offer you Mr. Yank the first touch of the Nolans dead ass. It will be a very cool and moving moment for you we are sure. But we caution you. You must keep the faith of the Nolan Chart.
    May the Nolan bless you.

    the committee

  74. Yank Says:

    Does this mean I will get some ass? Reform or radical, ass is ass.

  75. Todd Andrew Barnett Says:

    Will someone please do something about these trolls who have infested the comments section of this blog? These cretins do NOT speak for the entire Party, let alone the movement.

    I wish they would simply go away, as they are a disease that needs to be wiped out of the movement.

  76. Hugh Jass Says:

    Wow, Todd Barnett, great blogging. All of this because they dared to screw with Ruwart’s “libertarian principles” on child porn. For the last time: her principles on the matter are not libertarian. They show how stupid, igorant and morally repugnant her ANARCHIST principles are. The fact that you can’t separate anarchy from libertarianism reveals your ignorance of the wider world around you.

    The Constitution has nothing to say about child pornography, and thus a true constitutionalist, let alone a true libertarian, would realize that the federal government has no role in this issue.

  77. Pat Says:

    Mayhap Todd takes the internet a wee bit too seriously?

  78. Jason Gatties Says:

    I’d like to see them offer it to someone like Karl Dickey.

  79. Yank Says:

    Hugh Jass, that’s a great name. I love names with ass in them.

  80. Eric Garris Says:

    I am not declaring what “libertarian principles” are, but by his own admission, Shane Corey was not a libertarian and has shown contempt for the party members throughout his time as director. I am not an anarchist and I believe in allowing all sorts of libertarians in the LP, but I do believe that the national director should have some sort of libertarian basis for his politics. My discussions with Shane tell me he wasn’t interested in libertarian principles. I don’t believe that you should hire the next in line at the office out of desperation, which is clearly what was done by a very weak Chairman.

  81. disinter Says:

    Stephen Gordon for Executive Director!

  82. Thomas L. Knapp Says:

    Best luck to Shane in his future endeavors.

    Now that he’s gone, I don’t see any great need to belabor my own criticisms of his work as executive director, but in fact those criticisms were usually less about ideology than about (1) an insufficiency of honest LP partisanship at LPHQ under his direction, and (2) a tendency to try to direct the party itself (not his job) rather than the national office (his job).

  83. Preston Says:

    Todd—just a minor point, but how is not revealing your identity on a blog post “statist”? It seems to be a matter of freedom of privacy, but then again, I’m a ‘statist’, because I believe the government does have certain positive functions.

  84. Committee for Clarity Says:

    To be clear

    Eric
    “I am not declaring what “libertarian principles” are, but by his own admission, Shane Corey was not a libertarian and has shown contempt for the party members throughout his time as director.”

    Eric is saying Shane was a true anarchist. He dared to listened to a different drum. The committee notes the Shane ignored the Nolan drum beat. It’s like a heart beat see. Can’t ignore it. Bad.

    Todd sweetie we must go to bed now. You have had a rough day. The Nolan would have sent the bad men away had you remained loyal. Be sure to check under the bed.

    Yank. You will get ass, all kinds of ass, if you join the reformers because they are corrupt and immoral. They violate the Nolan’s call for purity and thus they get ass. Real ass. But you must stay loyal to the Nolan dear Yank because touching His ass is like going to heaven. He is heaven. You must remain strong. His ass is comming.

    Pat. To introduce ourselves we offer our services of clarifying the un-clear in the very un-clear world of TPW. Your concern for Todd is comendable but we frown on it at TPW. This is a hard edged crowd and each of us is on our own here. We like to say things like unprincipled…which means how dare you disagree with me. Or, you really rate if you quit your job over a principle and the Nolan says don’t let the door hit you in the ass. (Yank, gets so excited whenever someone says ass, don’t encourage him especially if you are a femaile). He’s a sick boy. But he believes in the Nolan.

    Lets all bow our heads now and give thanks for the clarity of the Nolan. amen.

    the committee for clarity

  85. Todd Andrew Barnett Says:

    Preston:

    Not posting your identity on a blog or any forum while writing a post is not statist; however, using statist rhetoric while concealing your identity just to get in a few cheap shots IS statist. I did NOT say that concealing your identity was statist, so please don’t color my words.

    When you say that you believe the government “does have certain positive functions,” what do you mean by that? How do you personally and politically define “positive functions”? What does that phrase mean in the grand, long-term scheme of things?

    The creators of this blog own this blog because it’s private property, because posting on this blog is a privilege, not a right. However, that’s a moot point.

    The point is what is the government’s true role in our society? Is it to control every facet of our lives or is it to leave us alone?

    I think you know where I stand on that point.

  86. The Democratic Republican Says:

    Eric and Todd: What “true” consitutitionalism? The constitution says nothing about a right to privacy, but it exists. It says nothing of ensuring that people are able to consent to their actions, but it assumes it, as it was written against the backdrop of common law principles.

    The constitution says 3 things relative to this dispute:

    1. The Ninth Amendment: “All rights not listed herein are retained by the people”
    2. The Tenth Amendment: “All powers not listed herein are retained by the state”
    3. The Interstate Commerce Clause

    Anyone who cannot see the need to regulate child porn, and to allow for communication between state and feds, under these provisions has been blinded by radical fundamentalism.

  87. The Democratic Republican Says:

    As for Todd’s insane rant:

    1) You will make a great enforcer for when the Nolanites come to power
    2) Fundamentalists for liberty are still fundamentalists and are unable to tolerate others and concern that their own position may be wrong
    3) Anonymous writing is a great American tradition
    4) Continue to ramble insanely if you cannot defeat my arguments.
    5) I am wondering how deeply you must be into conspiracy theories to believe that I am colleague of “Committee for Clarity” or “Guy Fawkes”. I wasn’t even allowed onto the Committee. Does this mean that all who disagree with you are in cahoots, always conspiring against you? Isn’t it possible that I am all three people?
    6) Finally, you cannot prove that you have done more for the LP than me if you don’t even know who I am.

    A bientot

  88. Committee for Clarity Says:

    To be very clear: this is a dreadful development.

    Tom Knapp thinks he’s the Nolan! Very bad Karma.

    Forgive him Nolan he knows nothing of which he speaks. But he did say he didn’t have issues with Shane’s ideology, that was clear.
    Mr Knapp, Shane is to be vilified over his impure ideology above all else by decree from the Nolan.

    the committee “whew”

  89. Sean Says:

    So what are the rationales for both the CP and LP to claim to be the 3rd largest…

  90. Steve LaBianca Says:

    If those of you who see anarchism as NOT a subset of libertarianism, then please explain what the fundamental principle(s) of libertarianism is (are) which preclude anarchism as a subset of libertarianism.

    I maintain, that the fundamental principle is the non-initiation of force principle, or as some have said ZAP, or zero aggression principle.

    give us your best shot at explaining why anarchism is not a subset of libertarianism.

    To “The Democratic Republican” . . . what HAVE you done for the LP of noteworthiness?

  91. Richard Jordan Says:

    “There are only three federal crimes listed in the Constitution: treason, piracy and counterfeiting.” – Harry Browne

  92. Steve LaBianca Says:

    Cory was making $80,000? So much for being low to average pay!

  93. Raoul Duke Says:

    Shane CorEy never worked at LPHQ you pack of anarcho-animals. Ifyouregonnabashaguy atleastgethisfuckingnameright!

  94. Steve LaBianca Says:

    Sean, the CP has the most “registered voters”.. however, this is only due to the fact that the American Independent Party of California, (or was it the American Party?) a holdover from George Wallace and John Schmitz (who got over 1 million votes in 1976) affiliated with the US Taxpayers Party, later to become the Constitution Party. I believe that this affiliation brought over 300,000 registered voter with them. However, the Libertarian Party, with the exception of this one statistic (Registered voter in Ca.), the LP is larger by every other measurement.

  95. Peter Orvetti Says:

    I was surprised by the salary I received during my (very brief) time as an LNC employee. It was $35,000 per year—just $5K less than I’d been paid for a position at Cato with many more responsibilities. I’m surprised this small organization can pay people that much.

    That said, if the LNC offered me $5K per year less than my present salary, I’d happily consider becoming Exec Director myself, though I doubt ya’ll would want me. Plus, it seems like no one lasts very long…

  96. Steve LaBianca Says:
    1. Raoul Duke Says:
      May 3rd, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    Shane CorEy never worked at LPHQ you pack of anarcho-animals. Ifyouregonnabashaguy atleastgethisfuckingnameright!

    I am one of those “anarcho-animals” you slander, and I have NEVER misspelled “Cory’s” last name.

  97. Raoul Duke Says:

    Donttalktoadamndoctorofjournalismaboutslanderyoudunce!

    Besides youreadamnanarchistwhosupportsronpaul! howdoesthatmakeaspitofsense!

  98. Peter Orvetti Says:

    badcrazinessontpw…

  99. Committee for Clarity Says:

    To be clear
    Dem/Rep play nice Todd is under a lot of stress and you are taking advantage of his lack of Nolan protection. We think it is very clear what you are doing and this is why you cannot be on the committee. We don’t encourage adults to manipulate children….what? Scratch that. We do allow it if the child willing consents. Sorry.

    “I am wondering how deeply you must be into conspiracy theories to believe that I am colleague of “Committee for Clarity” or “Guy Fawkes”. I wasn’t even allowed onto the Committee. Does this mean that all who disagree with you are in cahoots, always conspiring against you? Isn’t it possible that I am all three people?”

    See Pat this is a rough crowd.

    Nolan be with you.
    the committee

  100. Thomas L. Knapp Says:

    CfC,

    I don’t suffer under the misimpression that I’m the Nolan.

    Then again, while I have a good deal of respect for the Nolan and the Nolan’s views, I see being the Nolan only as entitling one to be listened to respectfully, not necessarily to be agreed with.

    The Nolan and I have had any number of disagreements over the years and I’ve even been downright snippy with him a few times (usually privately). I’m enormously grateful to him for having done a lot of work to found the party, I consider his views of party matters to be highly relevant, and sometimes I think he’s dead wrong. I’m sure he gives my opinion whatever weight he thinks it deserves in such cases, and I’m sure that weight is often less than I myself would place on it. C’est la vie.

    The Nolan, like many radicals, tends to place more weight on ideology than I do. What I want from an executive director isn’t ideological purity, it’s basic competence in the service of complete and utter partisanship. We aren’t here to make friends with the Republicans and Democrats. We’re here to whip their asses.

  101. Committee for Clarity Says:

    to be clear
    Wow we are falling behind and there is so much to clarify.

    LaBianca just shit his pants upon discovering Shane’s salary. Seems he has lost all interest in determining the subset of libertarianism. To clarify the subset of libertarianism is/was Shane. He’s your anarchist.
    And he’s a good speller of Shane’s name.

    Peter just figured out that if he was ED he’d be rich. sorry Peter the Nolan is going to be the ED.

    Raul is claiming to be a journalist who knows about slander.

    Peter is catch the typing disease Raul has. Bad karma for us on the committee. the Nolan is not pleased.

    wow We are trying here to be clear about what is going on, but you folks are so quick we’re stressing just to keep up with the intellectual arguments. We can’t seem to find them. Sorry.

    the committee.

  102. Steve LaBianca Says:
    1. Raoul Duke Says:
      May 3rd, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    Donttalktoadamndoctorofjournalismaboutslanderyoudunce!

    Besides youreadamnanarchistwhosupportsronpaul! howdoesthatmakeaspitofsense!

    I guess in your mind, none. However, I thought that Ron Paul’s major principled positions of foreign non-interventionism and sound currency, and eliminating government spending and taxes and departments is a pretty radical program in my opinion. Even though W.A.R. TALKS a good game, he is a libertarian lightweight . . . Ron Paul has been espousing these ideas, and clarifying them for 35 years. Ron Paul is believable . . . W.A.R. is not.

  103. Steve LaBianca Says:

    Committee for Clarity Says:
    May 3rd, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    That he has read everybody’s posts! Good for him and his ability to read, and restate them in a satirical way!

    Committee for Clarity ALSO Says:

    He’s tired of all this serious stuff. Why not just make fun of everybody who is serious about liberty . . . OK have your fun.

  104. Steve LaBianca Says:

    Committee for Clarity Says:
    May 3rd, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    To be clear
    . . . We don’t encourage adults to manipulate children….what? Scratch that. We do allow it if the child willing consents. Sorry.

    Now THAT’S a SLANDER on Ruwart which is completely unsubstantiated! Please stick to satire which isn’t twisting real facts.

    p.s. that should be willingLY . . dismissed

  105. Committee for Clarity Says:

    to be clear: Very clear.

    The Knapster is a force. He thinks different thoughts from the Nolan. He does see himself as a Nolan but with a different agenda. He sounds like a pragmatist. wow. No wonder the Nolan is unhappy with you.

    The Knapster is a violent man wanting to whip peoples asses. Hear that Yank? The Nolan probably will not like hearing this blast of phemes regarding the pledge. But then we’ve already seen the Nolans self-righteous wrath. Both referred to ass Yank. Not pretty.

    So, there we have it. The Nolan and the Knapster. Agreeing to disagree and dancing the dance of death together. The Ying and Yang of the LP power elite.

    Now to find their intellectual counter parts. Who will represent the anarchist and who will represent the libertrians? We are making progress.

    Respectfully the committee.

  106. Peter Orvetti Says:

    I assume by “The Nolan” we are not referring to 16th century occultist and martyr Giordano Bruno?

  107. Committee for Clarity Says:

    to be clear.
    LaBianaca still has not found his Tony Robbins tape.

    He is annoyed. He thinks we slandered his favorite candidate in our satire. . sorry about the missing LY on the word willingly. Unfortunately we stand by the facts too. The Nolan insist we be factual.

    You may chose to follow the Nolan or anyone else but please refrain from questioning our facts. We read them clearly and without compromising our principles.

    You sir are not the one to defend your intellectual base. We seek another for that joust.

    the committee of clarity and truth.

  108. Steve LaBianca Says:

    Committee for Clarity Says:
    May 3rd, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    “He is annoyed. He thinks we slandered his favorite candidate in our satire.”

    Interesting that the commentary/satire is left there. I guess the “Committee” agrees that it was a slander, and not a legitimate critique.

  109. Steve LaBianca Says:

    It has been said that satire is an expression of truth, just done in a humorous way.

    The problem here, with the Committee” is that he or she is trying to mask their TWISTING OF THE TRUTH in satire. Nice bait and switch, but I am not buying it. Stick to being funny and stop torturing the facts. It has been exposed.

  110. Preston Says:

    To Todd—If you are still here—I am not a libertarian. I am a Green. This is “Third Party Watch”. What I think the government has legitimacy to do is a complicated question, but a brief answer which you can tear apart would be that the government has the job of following the will of the majority of the people by having democratically elected officials pass laws which are in the interest of the people.
    Also, these laws must be Constitutional and can’t violate the Bill of Rights. Oh, and I don’t have a remarkably limited conception of ‘constitutional’ like many libertarians.

    To the Committee: You are great. Keep up the clarifying, or I wouldn’t know what was going on.
    P.S. I have a theory you are actually ‘Yank’. ‘Yank’ was an annoying one-trick pony. You are continuously humorous, in my humble opinion.

    To Steve: My initial reaction to your question, on what the fundamental difference between anarchism and libertarianism is would be that anarchism is the belief that no government should exist, while libertarianism is the belief that government’s role should be very limited (to something like preventing aggressions on other’s liberties, and thats it.)
    So, no government vs. small government. Seems like a pretty big difference to me. How can there be property or rights without any laws?

    To say anarchism and libertarianism are one in the same is to say socialism and communism are one in the same. Or that socialism and neo-liberalism are the same. Or that neo-liberalism and neo-conservatism are the same. Or that neo-conservatism and libertarianism are the same…and we see where all of that conflation leads us.

  111. The Democratic Republican Says:

    Steve LaBianca:

    The fundamental principle of libertarianism is that government acts justly so long as it acts to protect our individual rights. We all surrender some of our rights to enable it to act thusly.

    The fundamental principle of anarchism is that all government action is aggression.

    A person who believes either principle (and other principles) can still adhere to the zero-aggression principle because of the differences in defining aggression.

    And what have you done that makes it your place to ask me what I’ve done for the LP (and the cause of liberty more generally)? Do you want to go in the locker room and take out the tape measurer?

  112. EVIL DICK Says:

    We aren’t here to make friends with the Republicans and Democrats. We’re here to whip their asses.

    AND IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS FUCKER YOU WILL BE SUCKING THAT ASS! RIGHT ALONG WITH YANK!

  113. The Democratic Republican Says:

    As for Harry Browne’s, RIP, interpretation of the Constitution:

    I loved the man dearly but he is 100% wrong on that sound bite. Why? Because the Constitution outlined very clear duties for the federal government. Every single thing in the constitution is a law. For anyone to act outside of those constraints is illegal and can be enforced by the federal government. The courts could determine certain things are illegal on the basis of the Ninth Amendment—things which aren’t even written. The necessary and proper clause and the interstate commerce clause also does give the feds the power to make laws not mentioned in the constitution but relevant to their enumerated powers.

    Sound bites don’t work in the real world.

  114. EVIL DICK Says:

    Do you want to go in the locker room and take out the tape measurer?

    PAULIE DOES. HE SWINGS THAT WAY.

  115. Pat Says:

    Dear Committee,

    I come to you with a concern. Reading these comments is fascinating in a staring at a 20 car pile up on the freeway with bodies all over the place kind of way. You know what you see is horrible and that staring at it will probably scar you. You also know that it is a terrible waste of time surpassed only by the people who write 3 essays in the comment section of every single post. How do I tear myself away and get back to doing things that actually matter and serve a purpose?

    Please bless me with the insight of the Nolan!

  116. Bruce Cohen Says:

    Posted elsewhere, reposted here verbatim.
    Forgive repetition and redundancy.

    I am quite unhappy to pass on the news that
    one of my favorite Libertarians, Shane Cory,
    has resigned.

    A very competent and thorough man, who
    shepherded the LP through dangerous
    passages and tight financial times, he
    took quite a cut in pay to come on board,
    and to stay on board.

    While ‘nastytarians’ gloat over him leaving,
    it will be another hole in the fabric of the
    Libertarian Party, at a critical time.

    Shane was a creative and steady hand
    at the tiller, weathering many storms,
    and nasty people, not to mention the
    inside political fighting.

    I disagreed with Shane many times on
    Policy, not to mention strategy and
    tactics.

    But he was one of the rare gems who
    made time to take and return phone
    calls, and to do his job properly.

    I could further extol his virtues as a
    fundraiser, candidate resource, State
    Chair’s bulwark, and keep on going,
    but the point is now moot.

    I hope he will soon find a marvelous
    job that will be more personally and
    financially rewarding for his and his
    family’s sake.

    Thank you, Shane.
    Some of us, many of us, appreciate
    you no end and will miss you greatly.

    He, unlike his recent accusers, never
    misused his post for his own personal
    agenda, as many have and do, in and
    out of my home state of California.

    I share with you here the Third Party
    Watch column just out, and the link,
    should you care to read the discussion
    coming after it.

    One more thing, I’m ashamed and
    embarrassed by Mister David Nolan’s
    part in this, and his obscenely nasty
    public gloating over Shane’s resignation.

  117. David F. Nolan Says:

    Bruce Cohen, you are an ass. You have always been an ass, and you always will be. You routinely misrepresent everyone and everything at every opportunity. Please go join the Republican Party, where your neocon, pro-war views will fit in nicely.

  118. stopdrugwar Says:

    Didn’t Hillary ask folks to bet on Eight Belles in the Derby? What a metaphor for her race. A filly that doesn’t stop running even after the race is over and she came in second. Doesn’t stop until … well lets moderate this a bit for the fools at the FBI … oh hell with it …

  119. Eric Dondero Says:

    Mr. Nolan, Bruce Cohen is PRO-CHOICE.

    It is physically impossible for one to be labeled a “NeoCon” if one is PRO-CHOICE ON ABORTION.

    NeoCon means supporter of bigger government. Advocates of a women’s right to choose are in favor of less government control.

    Those who advocate banning abortions, are in favor of a nationwide police force to spy on Americans in the bedroom. Pro-lifers like, say Howard Phillips and Ron Paul, are much more aptly described as “NeoCon” big government advocates than Pro-Choicers like Mr. Cohen.

  120. Thomas L. Knapp Says:

    Bruce,

    If Shane never misused his post for his personal agenda, whose personal agenda did he misuse it for?

  121. Eric Dondero Says:

    How ironic, the very Founder of the Libertarian Party is now the very guy wanting to turn the Libertarian Party into as small a tent as possible.

    He’s told Bruce Cohen, a three time LP Congressional candidate in southern California, to get lost, join the Republican Party, and to not let the door hit his ass on the way out.

    David Nolan is turning into America’s Number One recruiting agent for the Republican Liberty Caucus.

    We could be seeing the future of the libertarian movement before our eyes where the RLC is vastly expanded, and the LP small enough to fit into a London-style telephone booth, all thanks to David Nolan’s efforts.

  122. Eric Dondero Says:

    Definition of a NeoCon:

    One who advocates bigger government, while posing as a conservative. One who is a religiously based, social conservative at heart, but mouths fiscally conservative ideals on occasion to fit in with the broader conservative coalition.

    That sounds like Howie Phillips, or even Ron Paul.

    Ironically, these NeoCons seem to be in collussion with other socially conservative groups like Religious Fundamentalists, most noteworthy Islamic Fundamentalists. Thus you see these NeoCons making excuses for Radical Islamic groups like Hezbollah, Al Jazeera, and Al Qaeda (as Ron Paul has often done), and downplaying the threat from Sharia Law.

    After all, if abortion, sexual tolerance, and gay rights are banned by Sharia, that’s perfectly fine with the NeoCons. They can’t come out and say that, cause it would ruin their relationship with real conservatives like free market advocates, and defense conservatives. But secretly, they’re in cahoots with the backers of Sharia.

  123. Chris Bennett Says:

    Eric Don-dildo still has no clue on what he’s talking about.

  124. Eric Dondero Says:

    Chris Bennitto Musolini still avoids the question of NeoCon libertarians like Ron Paul and their support for Islamo-Fascism and Sharia Law.

    Hey Bennitto, why is it that Ron Paul’s supporting Radical Muslim Hussein Obama (on foreign policy) at CNN?

    Kind of all fits together don’t it? Paul is weak on defending sexual libertarians (known homophobe, anti-choice). Paul spoke out in favor of Hamas and Hezzbollah.

    Obama attended a Muslim Madrassa as a child for 4 years and is an ally of Louis Farrakhan. And now Paul is backing Obama, saying he’s got the “best foreign policy views” of the three.

    Coincidence?

  125. Eric Dondero Says:

    One also wonders about the funding.

    Ron Paul raised tens of millions of dollars for his campaign, some speculated from “outside interests” including the Saudis and other Arab parties.

    Same speculation is running rampant on Obama. In fact, some of it has been proved: Obama has a direct connection to a top Saddam Hussein Energy Minister through Rezko, who funneled tens of thousands of dollars into his first races for State Senate.

    Could there be a connection between Paul and Obama and outise Saudi/Islamic big oil money?

    Just a coincidence that Paul is now backing Obama, as he did on CNN the other day?

  126. Chris Bennett Says:

    Eric, once again you are psychotic. Do yourself a favor and put down the drink and check yourself to the mental ward. One has got to laugh at all your ridiculous assumptions that make you as incompetent as your buddy George W Bush.

  127. Steve LaBianca Says:

    Preston Says:
    May 3rd, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    “To say anarchism and libertarianism are one in the same is to say socialism and communism are one in the same.”

    I didn’t say they were the same. I said that anarchism is a subset of libertarianism. Libertarianism is a broader theory, which allows for the existence of government, as long as it doesn’t initiate force and doesn’t violate individual rights. Granted, that would be a government which would be extremely restricted and very small, with very few functions. I will work and be honored to make headway toward our common goals, with such minarchists . . which is still a long way off!

  128. Eric Dondero Says:

    Geez, Bennito, that was a really intelligent post you put up there. Nothing of substance. Just schoolyard taunts and name-calling.

    How about answering some of the substance of my posts ‘eh? Why is Ron Paul now backing fellow Radical Islamic appeasor Barack Hussein Obama?

    Is it just coincidence that both of them are heavily rumored to be receiving funding from hardline Middle-Eastern sources? And both mercislessly bash Bush and spout the Saudi/Wahabbist line?

    Yeah, right, no connections there. Just coincidence.

  129. paulie Says:

    To be clear
    Paulie has outted himself claiming to being conflicted about his orienttion. He appears to be a translibarchist. He seems to be laying the subtle ground work to be a candidate for Cory’s ultra high paying whore job while the body is still warm. The husk is not even cool enough for Yank to play with. We fear this (oreintation mess) will hamper Paulie’s employment score with the LNC. They want clear thinking that everyone can appreciate. Like Nolan.

    Fuck no. Office work doesn’t suit me. Neither does living in one place very long, or being an employee of any sort (as opposed to independent contractor or small business owner, which I much prefer). I recommend Wes Benedict, Angela Keaton or Chris Bennett, if any of them want it.

  130. Chris Bennett Says:

    There is nothing to respond to Eric because there is no truth to your posts. What I do know is this; your psychosis is getting worse, you should get help.

  131. paulie Says:

    Paulie you better shape up boy.

    I got your boy right here. Bring a duffel bag with unmarked $100s if you ever want to see him again.

  132. Steve LaBianca Says:

    The Democratic Republican Says:
    May 4th, 2008 at 12:27 am

    Steve LaBianca:

    “The fundamental principle of libertarianism is that government acts justly so long as it acts to protect our individual rights. We all surrender some of our rights to enable it to act thusly.”

    The fundamental principle of anarchism is that all government action is aggression.

    The first two sentences are confusing . . . maybe it is just me. How can a government “act justly so long as it acts to protect our individual rights” . . . and at the same time “We all surrender some of our rights to enable it to act thusly.”? IMO, Government cannot protect rights, at the same time it violates them, whether surrendered, negotiated, or stolen from people.

    Regarding the second statement, some anarchists have theorized this, but others have theorized that governments can exist, but cannot violate rights or initiate force. Some say that that is impossible. Maybe, but I think that there is some reasonable disagreement on that.

    Also “And what have you done that makes it your place to ask me what I’ve done for the LP (and the cause of liberty more generally)? Do you want to go in the locker room and take out the tape measurer?”

    I believe that I am free to ask . . . you are free to answer or not. Characterizing “my place” is a very strange approach to this especially for someone who thinks of himself/herself (?) as a libertarian. The next sentence is an absolutely bizarre question of no relevance.

    However, the implication of the “bizarre” question is that “Democratic Republican” believes it is HIS “place” to ask me, and to PROVE by some measure that I measure up to him. Nice to see that your “place” is higher up on the ladder than I am.

  133. Bruce Cohen Says:

    Poor Mister Nolan.
    His only advocate left is the very literate and
    articulate Toad Andrew BoreNet.

    Whenever David doesn’t get his way, he throws
    a tantrum.

    Of course, when he was getting me to chauffer
    him all over Southern California he didn’t think
    I was a Neocon.

    When he implored me to run for Congress he
    didn’t think I misrepresented anyone, and even
    promised to max out for me.
    (He later ‘changed his mind’.)

    Well, I’m not pro-war.
    But anyone that disagrees with His Nolanness
    on Foreign Policy gets branded with the worst
    epithet he can think of.

    NEOCON, NEOCON, NEOCON
    Nyah, nyah, nyah…

    Now that Cohen guy will have to listen to ME.

    Because I am the Nolan.

    Forgive us Nolan, for we know not what we do.

    It’s funny that David would point a finger at me
    for lacking accuracy and integrity. When anyone
    that’s dealt with him on a personal level knows
    what a slippery eel he really is.

    And for those doubting his grip on reality, check
    out his astrological theory of politics.

    Only His Nolanness is allowed to say the first
    thing about anyone in a negative manner…

    And if you doubt our Nolan who art in Arizona’s
    sincere believe he is the Almighty Libertarian,
    listen to the Steve Kubby show on the Ruwart
    ‘child porn’ controversy.

    No, I’m not talking about David’s support for
    legalizing posession of child porn…

    I’m talking about his straight-faced and quite
    sincere statement that he is the “plumb line”
    Libertarian.

    He truly believes that he is the only person
    right on the issues and we are all deviants
    if we don’t line up with him and nod our
    heads with awe at his pronouncements.

    Soon he will issue us all our very own
    stone tablets so we don’t stray from the
    Nolan Truth.

    Please refer to your Nolan Testament
    and read to yourself from Chapter VII.

  134. paulie Says:

    You can say what you will about me, but the fact remains that you are a statist coward for not revealing your true identity.

    He may very well be, but certainly not for that reason. Read a bit of American revolutionary history, for starters.

  135. paulie Says:

    Prepare for the purging of the anarchists. Three more weeks.

    Then…. goodbye… and good riddance.

    Yeah, like the real Guy Fawkes with the Catholics. How did that work out?

  136. Austin Wilkes Says:

    Eric,

    You should open a comedy club – your suggestion that Ron is in bed with Obama and Saudi/Islamic big oil money is about the funniest thing I’ve ever heard.

    PS: The millions came from idiots like myself who gave thousands each and didnt get crap in return.

  137. paulie Says:

    Exactly, the communist statists have invaded and taken over! They want insane non principled things like winning elections and fighting ballot access! Those insane statist pigs! How dare they compromise their principles by actually being a political party! Traitors

    If you succeed in your stupid anti-anarchist pogrom, you’ll discover just how many of us anarchists have been on the front lines of those very things. Good luck to the LINOs in sorting all that out by themselves if that happens.

  138. paulie Says:

    Alicia Mattson has a hot face but no ass at all.

    Although I have been given to understand that Alicia is happily married, I think she is quite attractive. I don’t know her well enough to say anything about her ass, one way or the other, without being disrespectful, so I’ll refrain.

  139. paulie Says:

    Will someone please do something about these trolls who have infested the comments section of this blog? These cretins do NOT speak for the entire Party, let alone the movement.

    I wish they would simply go away, as they are a disease that needs to be wiped out of the movement.

    Substitute “Jew” for “troll,” and “Germany” for “comment section of this blog,” and see what happens.

    I say bring on the trolls – the more the merrier! And don’t forget to feed them.

  140. paulie Says:

    For the last time: her principles on the matter are not libertarian. They show how stupid, igorant and morally repugnant her ANARCHIST principles are.

    Promise? You’re really repeating this falsehood for the LAST time? Awesome!

  141. Eric Dondero Says:

    Hey Austin, are you happy now that your “donated millions” are now going towards promoting a book ghostwritten for Paul by known racist Lew Rockwell?

    Who’d ever thunk it: A Presidential campaign winds up amounting to nothing more than a book promotion cause.

  142. paulie Says:

    I’d like to see them offer it to someone like Karl Dickey.

    Another excellent suggestion.

  143. paulie Says:

    Does this mean I will get some ass? Reform or radical, ass is ass.

    Word up!

  144. paulie Says:

    Stephen Gordon for Executive Director!

    Pretty sure that Steve does not miss driving back and forth to DC every week or two, although I could be wrong.

  145. paulie Says:

    Cory was making $80,000? So much for being low to average pay!

    That does not exactly buy a high standard of living in the DC area for a family with several children.

  146. Nicolas Martin Says:

    The LP is like the US constitution: an worthy experiment that failed.

  147. Nicolas Martin Says:

    The LP is like the US constitution: a worthy experiment that failed.

  148. Eric Dondero Says:

    The LP has “not failed.” As a matter of fact, the Party is facing possibly its best electoral year in its 36 year history. Bob Barr or Waye Root as the LP standbearer could bring the Party an unprecedented amount of votes, perhaps as much as 4 to 5 million.

    Barr is already polling at 4% in the latest Zogby. That translates to roughly 5 to 6 million votes. (Projected vote total for ‘08 is about 130 million).

    Of course this scares some of the oldtime party regulars like we’ve seen right here at TPW with David Nolan’s rants. Last thing these “big fish in a small pond” want is for the LP base to expand, therefore lessening their influence.

    That’s the crux of the matter with Nolan. He doesn’t want a bigger Libertarian Party. He wants to keep the same old small social debating club that its been for 36 years. He knows too well that if Barr or Root pulls 4 to 5 million votes, the LP will change over night, instantly becoming a quasi-legitamate major party in the US like the Reform Party was for a brief while in the early 1990s.

  149. Thomas M. Sipos Says:

    Eric Dondero: “Is it just coincidence that both [Paul and Obama] are heavily rumored to be receiving funding from hardline Middle-Eastern sources?”

    Interesting that you don’t claim Paul and Obama are funded by Middle Eastern sources, but rather that they’re heavily rumored to be so funded.

    “Heavily rumored”? What does that mean? It can mean no more than that Dondero has widely posted this particular accusation. And that maybe some of his ignorant readers have forwarded it.

    IOW, “heavily rumored” can mean… absolutely nothing.

    Of course, Dondero himself is “heavily rumored” to be involved in some nasty stuff. Just ask Carol Moore.

    BTW, Dondero, the term “neocon” was coined in the 1980s to signify a conservative whose primary interest was foreign policy, as opposed to economics (libertarian conservatives) or social issues like abortion (social conservatives).

    Your “definition” of neoconservatism is, once again, just something you made up, with no basis in history or fact.

  150. paulie Says:

    Raoulduke,

    I knew Hunter Thompson, Hunter Thompson was a friend of mine, and you, sir, are no Raoul Duke!

  151. Bill Wood Says:

    Is there a source for Shane Cory earning $80,000 a year?

  152. paulie Says:

    PAULIE DOES. HE SWINGS THAT WAY.

    What way do I swing, douchebag, and how would you know?

  153. paulie Says:

    Preston and Democrat/Republican

    From whence did you get your specious definitions of libertarian and anarchist?

  154. Committee for Clarity Says:

    To be claer:
    Well the committee sees we’ve been very busy since we last checked in on the TPW gang.

    We will try to summarize, for clarity sake of course, what has been happening.

    Regarding serious political philosophical discusion. Same old shit. But we must give the winner’s trophy to Dem/Rep for having the clear answers regarding libertarian vs anarchist.

    Regarding our need for a ED it seems Paulie has thought better of working for the Nolan. However, he recommended and number of people he doesn’t care for for the job. ahem.

    Regarding the Nolan. There is no need to disparage the great one. He is the Nolan afterall. There is no clear evidence he slept with Hilary Clinton. NO CLEAR EVIDENCE. When asked abou the rumor Hillary said, “I have one ass to many in my life. What would I want with the Nolan.” We were offended.

    Regarding LaBianaca’s charge of our slandering of Ruwart. (See committee’s post at 9:13pm) in this thread.

    Well. To be clear we never mentioned Ruwarts name or any factual misrepresentation of her representation of the libertarin position on child sexual acts. In fact we didn’t go there at all. But given the charge of SLANDER has be levied by Mr. LaBianaca we must respond to be clear. Afterall Mary Ruwart is high priestess to the Nolan. We would never slander the Nolan’s high preistess. He likes her ass.

    On page 4 she directs the reader as follows.

    “The first paragraph of each short answer is designed to “stand alone” and can be used as a “sound bite” for candidates. If you have more time, you can continue to the next paragraph, then the next. Some of the questions have more than one answer so that you can choose the “one” that fits your audience best.” quotation marks are for clarity and added by the committee.

    The Nolan agrees. There is no further clarification needed.

    The paragraph in question in Ruwarts book that Mr. LaBianaca’s refers to indirectly, reads. pg 43.

    “Children who willingly participate in sexual acts have the right to make that decision as well, even if it’s distasteful to us personally. Some children will make poor choices just as some adults do in smoking and drinking to excess; this is part of life.”

    So for the record we never mentioned Ruwart in the post in question (9:13pm) We properly and clearly deferred to the Nolan who supports Ruwart as the source of our clarity.

    The committee also wishes to clarify that Dr. Ron Paul did not endorse this particular book authored by Mary Ruwart. We wish he would so everyone can be clear regarding her claim that he likes her best among the other presidential hopefuls.

    To charge the committee with slander is just wrong. We stand by our facts and suggest Mr LaBianaca keep seraching for those Tony Robbins tapes. Upon locating said tapes he should listen to them and broaden his horizons. The truth will set you free.

    Hail to the Nolan and his high priestess.

  155. David F. Nolan Says:

    Gosh, I hate to waste time refuting all the lies and innuendo being directed at me now by the likes of Dondero and Bruce Cohen. But I’ll give it a brief try.

    1) I have said before, and will reiterate, that I can (and will) support any of the six leading contenders for the LP Presidential nomination, who are, in alphabetical order, Barr, Gravel, Kubby, Phillies, Root and Ruwart. My support for some would be more enthusiastic than my support for others, but I’ve never called for any of them to withdraw or to leave the party. So much for the claim that I am trying to “shrink” the party or purge anyone.

    2) The reason Shane Cory was let go is that he was increasingly overstepping his bounds as Executive Director. He had told Bette Rose Ryan, who is running the Denver convention, that she COULD NOT ALLOW the “9/11 Truthers” to rent a room for a late-night presentation, and COULD NOT ALLOW one of the minor Presidential candidates to host a debate amongst all candidates who wished to participate – again, in a rented room, away from the convention floor. Cory had absolutely no authority to do this, and it shows complete disregard for free speech. Shane was agin’ it, so it was verboten. This is the sign of an authoritarian personality.

    The last straw, of course, was the press release advocating an expanded role for the FBI to combat “child porn” this was obviously aimed at discrediting one of th