Comments on: LP Presidential Candidate FEC and Liberty Decides ‘08 Filings

by: Ross

Fri, 09 May 2008 20:22:56 +0000

Most of Nader’s debt comes from a situation with ballot access in Pennsylvania in 2004 that I vaguely remember.

There was some issue with Democrats disrupting his signatures (signing names like Donald Duck and then saying things like certain signatures were unreadable so they didn’t count, etc.) and he didn’t make the ballot in PA, so he was either sued or the state charged him a lot. It was either $60,000 or $90,000.

As some of you probably know, PA is one of the hardest states, if not the hardest, to get ballot access in.

by: Peter Orvetti

Fri, 09 May 2008 06:50:11 +0000

Is Alan Keyes paying himself a salary from his campaign again this year? I wonder how much being a perma-candidate pays. I’m not being sarcastic; if he can make a good living while having fun as a presidential “contender”, more power to him.

by: Deran

Fri, 09 May 2008 05:12:02 +0000

By way of comparison:

The only Green presidential candaite that shows up on the FEC radar is former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney:

total recieptss $91k
individual donations $80k
on hand at reporting time $42k

And despite him being the most hate man among the peaceniks, the jolly old elf of the public interest, Ralph Nader, is ahead of them all

Nader/Gonzalez 2008

reciept $611k
individual contributin
transfer from authorized committee $6k
candidate contribution $40k
cash on hand $361k
debt $100k (I’m guessing this left over ‘04?)

Alan Keyes on the other hand. The FEC has no reprorting for him as anything but a Republican so far:

receipts $382k
individual contributions $320k
cash on hand $20k
And, somehow, $506k in debt?! (I’m sure there’s a good story there!)

I can’t find any FEC records for Rev. Baldwin.

by: George Phillies

Thu, 08 May 2008 22:12:52 +0000

I communicated with our National Party Headquarters the unfortunate fact that these numbers are incorrect, because they do not include candidate money transfers to their campaigns when those transfers are logged as loans. The response was that they deliberately are not including loans, even though they are as a result wildly distorting the extent to which candidates, notably my good friend Mr. Jingozian, are in fact putting their money where their campaign is.

It is extremely unfortunate that our Party National Headquarters, despite the brouhaha over my good friend Dr. Ruwart, is continuing to seek to manipulate our Presidential campaign by releasing clearly false or misleading information about the Party’s Presidential nominating campaign.

by: Stefan

Thu, 08 May 2008 08:12:13 +0000

Well, since yesterday I like it more to look at TPW, to see a beautiful face, stylish dress and intelligence of Mary Ruwart (and to not only see the face of Root). Jingozian has a nice one too.

by: Stefan

Thu, 08 May 2008 08:08:27 +0000

disinter: if Milnes’s vote as an official candidate would count as a delegate vote, it might be an idea for a serious candidate to sponsor Robert’s trip and stay at the convention in exchange for his vote. Think of it, he could also entertain the LP on his progressive alliance with the GP and in that case he need some proof of support by the GP for such an alliance also, you know, to make it believable…

by: Alex Peak

Thu, 08 May 2008 05:51:01 +0000

Liberty Decides is not worthless. It’s a great way to get rich people who have no shot at getting the LP nomination (e.g. Imperato) to donate large sums of money to the LP.

by: Ross

Thu, 08 May 2008 01:53:29 +0000

John Anderson – are you the former presidential candidate John Anderson?

by: Yank

Thu, 08 May 2008 01:39:14 +0000

Is Alden woman ass?

by: Ross

Thu, 08 May 2008 01:29:54 +0000

I think he was considering it from the beginning. The Democrats have been disrespecting him from the 70s onward, and he was not in line at all with the Democratic leadership.

by: John Anderson

Thu, 08 May 2008 00:45:43 +0000

Ross,

I’m not sure that that was his plan from the beginning, but it did definitely become part of it after his exclusion and before the primaries.

But its of no matter, he’s here with the Libs and ready to fight for the nod.

by: Ross

Wed, 07 May 2008 23:56:34 +0000

But that was Gravel’s strategy – get attention through the Democratic debates. I understand where you’re coming from, but you’ve got to factor in that Gravel knew from the beginning that he would most likely switch to a third party.

Here’s the latest crazy Gravel video on Youtube (we’re filibustering this one, too): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI6PA4v6dZg

by: Greg

Wed, 07 May 2008 23:26:25 +0000

Most (all?) of the money Gravel raised was for the Democratic primary. It’s not really a fair comparison to the LP-only candidates.

by: Ross

Wed, 07 May 2008 21:50:16 +0000

Yeah, Mike Gravel raised the most by far. Why doesn’t it say that above?

by: Steven R Linnabary

Wed, 07 May 2008 21:10:28 +0000

Did Irwin Schiff file FEC reports?? Michael Badnarik?? Jim Lewis?? (I am obviously talking about the years when their campaigns were active).

What is the penalty to the treasurer if he neglects or refuses to file?

Are there ANY benefits to filing?

PEACE
Steve