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	<title>Comments on: Several Libertarian Party Presidential Candidates Sign Libertarians For Justice Pledge</title>
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		<title>by: youwoodnight</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-724888</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Libertarians For Justice</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-608587</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>INVITATION

To everyone planning to be in Denver on May 22nd.  Libertarians For Justice invites all to attend our Free event on Thursday night.  Join us and hear the Presidential Candidates speak about 9/11 justice.

Libertarians for Justice has planned an Opening Night Celebration during the Libertarian National Convention.  We encourage you to attend this event.

If you would like to see the Libertarian Party elect a Presidential Candidate that stands for Truth, Justice, and Liberty, YOU can easily contribute to this process! 

For more details and to sign the justice pledge see our website: www.libertariansforjustice.org 


Libertarians for Justice 
Opening Night Celebration

When:  Thursday, May 22nd, 2008

Where:   Sheraton Denver Hotel, 
                Windows Ballroom, 2nd Floor Tower Building


Timeline of FREE Event:

5:00 PM  Improbable Collapse - Movie showing with Michael Berger

6:30 PM  Michael Berger - on 9/11 and the Future of our Republic

7:00 PM  Robert McIlvaine - who lost his son, Bobby, on 9/11; 
speaks of his attempts to seek justice

8:00 PM Presidential Candidates - address 9/11 Justice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">INVITATION</span></p>
	<p>To everyone planning to be in Denver on May 22nd.  Libertarians For Justice invites all to attend our Free event on Thursday night.  Join us and hear the Presidential Candidates speak about 9/11 justice.</p>
	<p>Libertarians for Justice has planned an Opening Night Celebration during the Libertarian National Convention.  We encourage you to attend this event.</p>
	<p>If you would like to see the Libertarian Party elect a Presidential Candidate that stands for Truth, Justice, and Liberty, <span class="caps">YOU</span> can easily contribute to this process!</p>
	<p>For more details and to sign the justice pledge see our website: <a href='http://www.libertariansforjustice.org' rel='nofollow'>www.libertariansforjustice.org</a></p>
	<p>Libertarians for Justice<br />
Opening Night Celebration</p>
	<p>When:  Thursday, May 22nd, 2008</p>
	<p>Where:   Sheraton Denver Hotel,</p>
	<p>                Windows Ballroom, 2nd Floor Tower Building</p>
	<p>Timeline of <span class="caps">FREE </span>Event:</p>
	<p>5:00 <span class="caps">PM  </span>Improbable Collapse &#8211; Movie showing with Michael Berger</p>
	<p>6:30 <span class="caps">PM  </span>Michael Berger &#8211; on 9/11 and the Future of our Republic</p>
	<p>7:00 <span class="caps">PM  </span>Robert McIlvaine &#8211; who lost his son, Bobby, on 9/11;<br />
speaks of his attempts to seek justice</p>
	<p>8:00 <span class="caps">PM </span>Presidential Candidates &#8211; address 9/11 Justice</p>
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		<title>by: Jim Duensing</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-604899</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-604899</guid>
					<description>Our event on Thursday May 22nd, may be the biggest gathering at the convention.

Go to http://www.libertariansforjustice.org/?q=node/21 for full details on the event.

One of the people speaking will be Robert McIlvaine - father of Bobby McIlvaine who was killed on 9/11.  Robert still has unanswered questions about the death of his son.  He wants, and has been fighting the establishment parties for, a real investigation of 9/11.  Even if it brings just one terrorist to justice, it's worth it. 

I spoke to Mr. McIlvaine briefly yesterday as I was going to file the paperwork required to run for Congress.  We agreed that if Congress has time and resources to look into baseball steroids and footbal practices they can look into what happened to our air defenses on 9/11 and they can look into Bobby's death.

If any government conspiracy theorist has anything to say to Mr. McIlvaine, he will be taking questions on Thursday night.  Stop in ask questions.  

In liberty, with eternal vigilance,

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Our event on Thursday May 22nd, may be the biggest gathering at the convention.</p>
	<p>Go to <a href='http://www.libertariansforjustice.org/?q=node/21' rel='nofollow'>http://www.libertariansforjustice.org/?q=node/21</a> for full details on the event.</p>
	<p>One of the people speaking will be Robert McIlvaine &#8211; father of Bobby McIlvaine who was killed on 9/11.  Robert still has unanswered questions about the death of his son.  He wants, and has been fighting the establishment parties for, a real investigation of 9/11.  Even if it brings just one terrorist to justice, it&#8217;s worth it.</p>
	<p>I spoke to Mr. McIlvaine briefly yesterday as I was going to file the paperwork required to run for Congress.  We agreed that if Congress has time and resources to look into baseball steroids and footbal practices they can look into what happened to our air defenses on 9/11 and they can look into Bobby&#8217;s death.</p>
	<p>If any government conspiracy theorist has anything to say to Mr. McIlvaine, he will be taking questions on Thursday night.  Stop in ask questions.</p>
	<p>In liberty, with eternal vigilance,</p>
	<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>by: Paulie</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-604091</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-604091</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;#  Joseph Geddes Buchman, PhD Says:
May 12th, 2008 at 12:38 am e

Paulie,

Thanks for posting this here. Looking forward to seeing you again in Denver. Seems like years ago we were having breakfast every day during the signature drive at No Worries.

I hesitate to say this here, given the flak over my stand for UFO/ET disclosure (as part of a broader call for whistle blower protection, routine Congressional hearings for whistle blowers, lifetime protection based on the dollar amount saved from federal spending, etc) – —but I doubt you or some others will be surprised to find I’ve been a full member of both Scholars for 9/11 Truth, and Scholars for 9/11 Truth&amp;#38;Justice since 2005.

See:

http://twilightpines.com//index.php?option=com_content&amp;#38;task=view&amp;#38;id=37&amp;#38;Itemid=35

http://stj911.org/members/index.html

I have several pilot friends for major airlines, some who fly trans pacific routes, who are 100 percent certain that something other than a commercial airliner hit the Pentagon, that no pilot could have done the turn indicated on radar, cleared the fence, while keeping the engines above ground level (they did not gouge the grass), or been stable that close to the ground and hit the building in the first floor—or that WTC 7 fell into its own footprint without ever having been hit by a plane and after only 3-4 hours of fires, no matter how large, etc, etc.

I find professor Steven Jones, who was fired (“retired”) from Bringham Young University only a few days after President Bush visited the Mormon Church leaders in SLC, quite credible.

Everyone should read his research, IMO.

Best,

Joe
&lt;/i&gt;

Glad to have you on board!

Another board about this 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/libertariansfor911truth/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>#  Joseph Geddes Buchman, PhD Says:<br />
May 12th, 2008 at 12:38 am e</p>
	<p>Paulie,</p>
	<p>Thanks for posting this here. Looking forward to seeing you again in Denver. Seems like years ago we were having breakfast every day during the signature drive at No Worries.</p>
	<p>I hesitate to say this here, given the flak over my stand for <span class="caps">UFO</span>/ET disclosure (as part of a broader call for whistle blower protection, routine Congressional hearings for whistle blowers, lifetime protection based on the dollar amount saved from federal spending, etc) &#8211; &#8212;but I doubt you or some others will be surprised to find I&#8217;ve been a full member of both Scholars for 9/11 Truth, and Scholars for 9/11 Truth&#038;Justice since 2005.</p>
	<p>See:</p>
	<p><a href='http://twilightpines.com//index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=37&#038;Itemid=35' rel='nofollow'>http://twilightpines.com//index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=37&#038;Itemid=35</a></p>
	<p><a href='http://stj911.org/members/index.html' rel='nofollow'>http://stj911.org/members/index.html</a></p>
	<p>I have several pilot friends for major airlines, some who fly trans pacific routes, who are 100 percent certain that something other than a commercial airliner hit the Pentagon, that no pilot could have done the turn indicated on radar, cleared the fence, while keeping the engines above ground level (they did not gouge the grass), or been stable that close to the ground and hit the building in the first floor&#8212;or that <span class="caps">WTC 7</span> fell into its own footprint without ever having been hit by a plane and after only 3-4 hours of fires, no matter how large, etc, etc.</p>
	<p>I find professor Steven Jones, who was fired (&#8220;retired&#8221;) from Bringham Young University only a few days after President Bush visited the Mormon Church leaders in <span class="caps">SLC</span>, quite credible.</p>
	<p>Everyone should read his research, <span class="caps">IMO</span>.</p>
	<p>Best,</p>
	<p>Joe<br />
</i></p>
	<p>Glad to have you on board!</p>
	<p>Another board about this</p>
	<p><a href='http://groups.yahoo.com/group/libertariansfor911truth/' rel='nofollow'>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/libertariansfor911truth/</a></p>
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		<title>by: Andy</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-602710</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 16:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-602710</guid>
					<description>&quot;darolew Says: 

May 11th, 2008 at 5:44 pm 
Another investigation would be useful only if it would finally make the 9/11 “Truth”ers shut the hell up.

Support from the 9/11 “Truth” movement: the kiss of death, the condemnation to the eternal fringe.

Making this a political issue would be a poor choice.&quot;

The 9/11 Truth Movement is now many times larger than the Libertarian Party and is growing much faster than the Libertarian Party.  If every 9/11 Truther in this country voted Libertarian in the 2008 election the Libertarian Party would recieve a record setting number of votes.  

9/11 Truthers are anti-war and pro-civil liberties and are already skeptical of government.  They are ripe picking for the Libertarian Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;darolew Says:</p>
	<p>May 11th, 2008 at 5:44 pm<br />
Another investigation would be useful only if it would finally make the 9/11 &#8220;Truth&#8221;ers shut the hell up.</p>
	<p>Support from the 9/11 &#8220;Truth&#8221; movement: the kiss of death, the condemnation to the eternal fringe.</p>
	<p>Making this a political issue would be a poor choice.&#8221;</p>
	<p>The 9/11 Truth Movement is now many times larger than the Libertarian Party and is growing much faster than the Libertarian Party.  If every 9/11 Truther in this country voted Libertarian in the 2008 election the Libertarian Party would recieve a record setting number of votes.</p>
	<p>9/11 Truthers are anti-war and pro-civil liberties and are already skeptical of government.  They are ripe picking for the Libertarian Party.</p>
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		<title>by: Libertarians For Justice</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-602615</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-602615</guid>
					<description>Thank you Presidential Candidate, Robert Milnes for signing the Justice Pledge.

An invitation for you to speak at our Opening Night Celebration should already be in your e-mail in-box.

Beth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thank you Presidential Candidate, Robert Milnes for signing the Justice Pledge.</p>
	<p>An invitation for you to speak at our Opening Night Celebration should already be in your e-mail in-box.</p>
	<p>Beth</p>
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		<title>by: Libertarians For Justice</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-602428</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 12:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-602428</guid>
					<description>You are all cordially invited to attend the Libertarians For Justice Opening Night Celebration.

Thursday night, May 22nd, at the Sheraton Denver Downtown, formerly Adams Mark.  

Join us at 5:00 PM in the Windows Ballroom located on the 2nd floor of the Tower Building.  

The evening will begin with presentations by several Nationally known speakers.  

At 8:00 PM the Presidential Candidates and National Committee candidates, that have signed the Justice Pledge, will speak to the delegates gathered.    

There is no charge to attend.  Look for more details about the event at our booth #25.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>You are all cordially invited to attend the Libertarians For Justice Opening Night Celebration.</p>
	<p>Thursday night, May 22nd, at the Sheraton Denver Downtown, formerly Adams Mark.</p>
	<p>Join us at 5:00 PM in the Windows Ballroom located on the 2nd floor of the Tower Building.</p>
	<p>The evening will begin with presentations by several Nationally known speakers.</p>
	<p>At 8:00 PM the Presidential Candidates and National Committee candidates, that have signed the Justice Pledge, will speak to the delegates gathered.</p>
	<p>There is no charge to attend.  Look for more details about the event at our booth #25.</p>
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		<title>by: Steve Newton</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-602344</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 11:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-602344</guid>
					<description>As a process question, given Beth's quotation

&quot;We want justice. Simple as that. We want the truth. We want those responsible to pay. The families deserve no less.

The only way to provide this is to hold an open and public Congressional inquiry with full subpoena powers.&quot;

Is every radical Libertarian who signs off on the L4J petition willing therefore to admit that all objections to subpoena power in the 6th Amendment have now been dropped?

It's important, because if Congress has the legitimate right to subpoena witnesses and initiate force to compel their appearance in this case, then both Congress and the Court system have the right to do so in all cases.

That would seem to be a major contradiction for radical Libertarians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As a process question, given Beth&#8217;s quotation</p>
	<p>&#8220;We want justice. Simple as that. We want the truth. We want those responsible to pay. The families deserve no less.</p>
	<p>The only way to provide this is to hold an open and public Congressional inquiry with full subpoena powers.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Is every radical Libertarian who signs off on the <span class="caps">L4J</span> petition willing therefore to admit that all objections to subpoena power in the 6th Amendment have now been dropped?</p>
	<p>It&#8217;s important, because if Congress has the legitimate right to subpoena witnesses and initiate force to compel their appearance in this case, then both Congress and the Court system have the right to do so in all cases.</p>
	<p>That would seem to be a major contradiction for radical Libertarians.</p>
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		<title>by: Joseph Geddes Buchman, PhD</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-602076</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 05:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-602076</guid>
					<description>Paulie,

Thanks for posting this here.  Looking forward to seeing you again in Denver.  Seems like years ago we were having breakfast every day during the signature drive at No Worries.  

I hesitate to say this here, given the flak over my stand for UFO/ET disclosure (as part of a broader call for whistle blower protection, routine Congressional hearings for whistle blowers, lifetime protection based on the dollar amount saved from federal spending, etc) -

-- but I doubt you or some others will be surprised to find I've been a full member of both Scholars for 9/11 Truth, and Scholars for 9/11 Truth&amp;#38;Justice since 2005.

See: 

http://twilightpines.com//index.php?option=com_content&amp;#38;task=view&amp;#38;id=37&amp;#38;Itemid=35

http://stj911.org/members/index.html


I have several pilot friends for major airlines, some who fly trans pacific routes, who are 100 percent certain that something other than a commercial airliner hit the Pentagon, that no pilot could have done the turn indicated on radar, cleared the fence, while keeping the engines above ground level (they did not gouge the grass), or been stable that close to the ground and hit the building in the first floor -- or that WTC 7 fell into its own footprint without ever having been hit by a plane and after only 3-4 hours of fires, no matter how large, etc, etc.  

I find professor Steven Jones, who was fired (&quot;retired&quot;) from Bringham Young University only a few days after President Bush visited the Mormon Church leaders in SLC, quite credible. 

Everyone should read his research, IMO.

Best,

Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Paulie,</p>
	<p>Thanks for posting this here.  Looking forward to seeing you again in Denver.  Seems like years ago we were having breakfast every day during the signature drive at No Worries.</p>
	<p>I hesitate to say this here, given the flak over my stand for <span class="caps">UFO</span>/ET disclosure (as part of a broader call for whistle blower protection, routine Congressional hearings for whistle blowers, lifetime protection based on the dollar amount saved from federal spending, etc) &#8211; &#8212;but I doubt you or some others will be surprised to find I&#8217;ve been a full member of both Scholars for 9/11 Truth, and Scholars for 9/11 Truth&#038;Justice since 2005.</p>
	<p>See:</p>
	<p><a href='http://twilightpines.com//index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=37&#038;Itemid=35' rel='nofollow'>http://twilightpines.com//index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=37&#038;Itemid=35</a></p>
	<p><a href='http://stj911.org/members/index.html' rel='nofollow'>http://stj911.org/members/index.html</a></p>
	<p>I have several pilot friends for major airlines, some who fly trans pacific routes, who are 100 percent certain that something other than a commercial airliner hit the Pentagon, that no pilot could have done the turn indicated on radar, cleared the fence, while keeping the engines above ground level (they did not gouge the grass), or been stable that close to the ground and hit the building in the first floor&#8212;or that <span class="caps">WTC 7</span> fell into its own footprint without ever having been hit by a plane and after only 3-4 hours of fires, no matter how large, etc, etc.</p>
	<p>I find professor Steven Jones, who was fired (&#8220;retired&#8221;) from Bringham Young University only a few days after President Bush visited the Mormon Church leaders in <span class="caps">SLC</span>, quite credible.</p>
	<p>Everyone should read his research, <span class="caps">IMO</span>.</p>
	<p>Best,</p>
	<p>Joe</p>
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		<title>by: Steve Newton</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-601905</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 02:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-601905</guid>
					<description>Libertarians 4 Justice says, &quot;As far as I know, L4J is about asking questions, not promoting any particular theory.&quot;

Rolf Lindgren says, &quot;Let’s say you’re in a politcal party, and you find out the leaders of another political party committed mass murder.

Just ignore it, and make fun of the people who thinks that’s an issue.&quot;

There's the problem.  It's not just about asking questions.  If we had an independent investigation and it still turned up nothing, would the 9/11 Truth movement disappear?  I seriously doubt it.

Because they already know the answer they're looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Libertarians 4 Justice says, &#8220;As far as I know, <span class="caps">L4J</span> is about asking questions, not promoting any particular theory.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Rolf Lindgren says, &#8220;Let&#8217;s say you&#8217;re in a politcal party, and you find out the leaders of another political party committed mass murder.</p>
	<p>Just ignore it, and make fun of the people who thinks that&#8217;s an issue.&#8221;</p>
	<p>There&#8217;s the problem.  It&#8217;s not just about asking questions.  If we had an independent investigation and it still turned up nothing, would the 9/11 Truth movement disappear?  I seriously doubt it.</p>
	<p>Because they already know the answer they&#8217;re looking for.</p>
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		<title>by: Rolf Lindgren</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-601890</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 02:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-601890</guid>
					<description>The Libertarian Party needs to get practical.

Let's say you're in a politcal party, and you find out the leaders of another political party committed mass murder.

Just ignore it, and make fun of the people who thinks that's an issue.

Yea, that's a practical way to stay on the politcal fringe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The Libertarian Party needs to get practical.</p>
	<p>Let&#8217;s say you&#8217;re in a politcal party, and you find out the leaders of another political party committed mass murder.</p>
	<p>Just ignore it, and make fun of the people who thinks that&#8217;s an issue.</p>
	<p>Yea, that&#8217;s a practical way to stay on the politcal fringe.</p>
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		<title>by: darolew</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-601723</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 22:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-601723</guid>
					<description>Another investigation would be useful only if it would finally make the 9/11 &quot;Truth&quot;ers shut the hell up.

Support from the 9/11 &quot;Truth&quot; movement: the kiss of death, the condemnation to the eternal fringe.

Making this a political issue would be a poor choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Another investigation would be useful only if it would finally make the 9/11 &#8220;Truth&#8221;ers shut the hell up.</p>
	<p>Support from the 9/11 &#8220;Truth&#8221; movement: the kiss of death, the condemnation to the eternal fringe.</p>
	<p>Making this a political issue would be a poor choice.</p>
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		<title>by: 4liberty</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/09/several-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-sign-libertarians-for-justice-pledge/#comment-601274</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 12:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Forgot to mention Architect Richard Gage

http://www.ae911truth.org/

You asked about experts in the field of building collapse.  I would think that many of the architects and engineers at this site qualify as experts.  

Put them under oath!  

I'd like to hear Professor George Phillies explain again how it is simple &quot;freshman physics&quot; that allowed the WTC building to defy Newton's laws of motion.  

Newton:  I. Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it.

You know the tower that had 30 or so floors tipping on about a 20 degree angle just before the building fell out from under it.  When the building began to disintegrate, somehow the weight of all those 30 floors were pulled back into alignment so that they fell straight down.

How about it George?  Can you explain that to me a little more clearly?  The video of the debate question is online.  I will have to find it again to post it here.  The video with this question and response is from the State Chairs conference in Vegas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Forgot to mention Architect Richard Gage</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.ae911truth.org/' rel='nofollow'>http://www.ae911truth.org/</a></p>
	<p>You asked about experts in the field of building collapse.  I would think that many of the architects and engineers at this site qualify as experts.</p>
	<p>Put them under oath!</p>
	<p>I&#8217;d like to hear Professor George Phillies explain again how it is simple &#8220;freshman physics&#8221; that allowed the <span class="caps">WTC</span> building to defy Newton&#8217;s laws of motion.</p>
	<p>Newton:  I. Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it.</p>
	<p>You know the tower that had 30 or so floors tipping on about a 20 degree angle just before the building fell out from under it.  When the building began to disintegrate, somehow the weight of all those 30 floors were pulled back into alignment so that they fell straight down.</p>
	<p>How about it George?  Can you explain that to me a little more clearly?  The video of the debate question is online.  I will have to find it again to post it here.  The video with this question and response is from the State Chairs conference in Vegas.</p>
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		<title>by: 4liberty</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 12:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Have you read David Ray Griffin's book?
Debunking 9/11 Debunking; An answer to Popular Mechanics and other Defenders

Or Read Physics Professor Steven Jones recently published peer reviewed article in The Open Civil Engineering Journal?  Fourteen Points of Agreement with Official Government Reports on the World Trade Center Destruction

Dr. Jones has given me permission to print and share this article - here's a link.  http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCIEJ/2008/00000002/00000001/35TOCIEJ.SGM

Popular Mechanics articles are simply other peoples opinions.  The above articles are other peoples opinions.  An investigation is needed to get to the facts.  Those responsible for the events of the day, and the eyewitnesses, need to be put under oath and their statements proven.  Then we will have the truth.  

I believe that only Congress has the power to put President Bush and Vice President Cheney under oath.  Wouldn't you like to know why Dick Cheney did not follow the order to shoot down the plane headed for the  Pentagon?  

Norman Mineta's testimony http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip4rUYJdhBk

Your opinion and mine are irrelevant.  We do not have the facts.  I want the facts not opinions.

An investigation that, asks questions, and demands answers until We the People are sure beyond a reasonable doubt that the terrorists have been brought to justice.

Until there is Justice there will not be peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Have you read David Ray Griffin&#8217;s book?<br />
Debunking 9/11 Debunking; An answer to Popular Mechanics and other Defenders</p>
	<p>Or Read Physics Professor Steven Jones recently published peer reviewed article in The Open Civil Engineering Journal?  Fourteen Points of Agreement with Official Government Reports on the World Trade Center Destruction</p>
	<p>Dr. Jones has given me permission to print and share this article &#8211; here&#8217;s a link.  <a href='http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCIEJ/2008/00000002/00000001/35TOCIEJ.SGM' rel='nofollow'>http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCIEJ/2008/00000002/00000001/35TOCIEJ.SGM</a></p>
	<p>Popular Mechanics articles are simply other peoples opinions.  The above articles are other peoples opinions.  An investigation is needed to get to the facts.  Those responsible for the events of the day, and the eyewitnesses, need to be put under oath and their statements proven.  Then we will have the truth.</p>
	<p>I believe that only Congress has the power to put President Bush and Vice President Cheney under oath.  Wouldn&#8217;t you like to know why Dick Cheney did not follow the order to shoot down the plane headed for the  Pentagon?</p>
	<p>Norman Mineta&#8217;s testimony <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip4rUYJdhBk' rel='nofollow'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip4rUYJdhBk</a></p>
	<p>Your opinion and mine are irrelevant.  We do not have the facts.  I want the facts not opinions.</p>
	<p>An investigation that, asks questions, and demands answers until We the People are sure beyond a reasonable doubt that the terrorists have been brought to justice.</p>
	<p>Until there is Justice there will not be peace.</p>
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		<title>by: Bill Wood</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 10:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This is not my list, this is a list of experts that Popular Mechanics consulted in their investigation about 9/11.  If you want to know something like &quot;What would make a building collapse?&quot; I think you'd want to talk to someone who is an expert in that field. I wouldn't think any of them were under oath, however, do you think they would lie if that would mean they would lose creditablity in which that could ruin their business? You claim Popular Mechanics and you'd have to include the over 300 experts they talked to as not being impartial or are you saying anyone that doesn't answer the questions the way you want them answered are &quot;covering&quot; up the truth.

Again I would favor another investigation. &quot;The truth will set you free&quot; if you can handle the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This is not my list, this is a list of experts that Popular Mechanics consulted in their investigation about 9/11.  If you want to know something like &#8220;What would make a building collapse?&#8221; I think you&#8217;d want to talk to someone who is an expert in that field. I wouldn&#8217;t think any of them were under oath, however, do you think they would lie if that would mean they would lose creditablity in which that could ruin their business? You claim Popular Mechanics and you&#8217;d have to include the over 300 experts they talked to as not being impartial or are you saying anyone that doesn&#8217;t answer the questions the way you want them answered are &#8220;covering&#8221; up the truth.</p>
	<p>Again I would favor another investigation. &#8220;The truth will set you free&#8221; if you can handle the truth.</p>
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