<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><!-- generator="wordpress/1.5.1.3" -->
<rss version="2.0" 
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/">
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Ruth Bennett to run for LNC chair</title>
	<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/</link>
	<description></description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3</generator>

	<item>
		<title>by: Jacqueline</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-617669</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 05:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-617669</guid>
					<description>I was delighted to discover tonight that Ruth Bennett is running for LNC Chair and I enthusiastically endorse her candidacy.  Please read my full endorsement here: http://tinyurl.com/6y47y5

Unfortunately I was not paying attention to the LNC Chair race or I would have begun campaigning for her sooner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I was delighted to discover tonight that Ruth Bennett is running for <span class="caps">LNC </span>Chair and I enthusiastically endorse her candidacy.  Please read my full endorsement here: <a href='http://tinyurl.com/6y47y5' rel='nofollow'>http://tinyurl.com/6y47y5</a></p>
	<p>Unfortunately I was not paying attention to the <span class="caps">LNC </span>Chair race or I would have begun campaigning for her sooner.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: Susan Hogarth</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604289</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 23:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604289</guid>
					<description>&quot;Since my employer is reading this thread and your wife is my future drinking buddy, I will get back to fighting for peace.&quot;

Hmm. So there is a downside to a movement job, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Since my employer is reading this thread and your wife is my future drinking buddy, I will get back to fighting for peace.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Hmm. So there is a downside to a movement job, eh?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: Michael Seebeck</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604177</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604177</guid>
					<description>Angela, 

First, SSBL!  (Side-Splitting Belly Laugh) I'm in! :)

Second, I hate to break it you, but Lidia is allergic to alcohol! (No kidding, she really is!).  But she'll drink you under the table in regular iced tea!

I can pinch-hit for her on the drinking part, though. :)

Third, find Yank a date?  With or without an air pump?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Angela,</p>
	<p>First, <span class="caps">SSBL</span>!  (Side-Splitting Belly Laugh) I&#8217;m in! <img src='http://thirdpartywatch.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>Second, I hate to break it you, but Lidia is allergic to alcohol! (No kidding, she really is!).  But she&#8217;ll drink you under the table in regular iced tea!</p>
	<p>I can pinch-hit for her on the drinking part, though. <img src='http://thirdpartywatch.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>Third, find Yank a date?  With or without an air pump?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: Paulie</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604172</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604172</guid>
					<description>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/27/who-is-running-for-lnc/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><a href='http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/27/who-is-running-for-lnc/' rel='nofollow'>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/02/27/who-is-running-for-lnc/</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: Angela Keaton</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604170</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604170</guid>
					<description>Mr. Seebeck:

Thank you for joining the Keaton 2012 team as Minister of Public Relations. Together, we will reclaim the Libertarian Party in the name of liberty or at least help Yank find a date.

Since my employer is reading this thread and your wife is my future drinking buddy, I will get back to fighting for peace.

Angela Keaton, the New Face of the Old Right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Mr. Seebeck:</p>
	<p>Thank you for joining the Keaton 2012 team as Minister of Public Relations. Together, we will reclaim the Libertarian Party in the name of liberty or at least help Yank find a date.</p>
	<p>Since my employer is reading this thread and your wife is my future drinking buddy, I will get back to fighting for peace.</p>
	<p>Angela Keaton, the New Face of the Old Right.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: Paulie</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604168</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604168</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;Selecting 14 at-larges would require amending 50 sets of state Bylaws. 
&lt;/i&gt;

I doubt it. Logically, national region formation or lack thereof is a function of national, not state, bylaws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Selecting 14 at-larges would require amending 50 sets of state Bylaws.<br />
</i></p>
	<p>I doubt it. Logically, national region formation or lack thereof is a function of national, not state, bylaws.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: Michael Seebeck</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604158</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604158</guid>
					<description>&quot;Grandma&quot;???

Angela, you do yourself injustice! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Grandma&#8221;???</p>
	<p>Angela, you do yourself injustice! <img src='http://thirdpartywatch.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: Michael Seebeck</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604155</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604155</guid>
					<description>That link helps immensely, thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That link helps immensely, thanks!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: Michael Seebeck</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604151</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604151</guid>
					<description>Selecting 14 at-larges would require amending 50 sets of state Bylaws.  Is that really a good idea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Selecting 14 at-larges would require amending 50 sets of state Bylaws.  Is that really a good idea?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: George Phillies</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604142</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604142</guid>
					<description>&quot;I will ask the Bylaws Committee at the upcoming convention to recommend that the delegates amend the method of electing NatCom members. Instead of five at-large representatives and up to nine regional representatives, I suggest 14 at-large reps should be elected using Single Transferable Voting, also known as “Choice Voting.” &quot;

My university's faculty does this for committee elections.  While it depends which set of rules you use--the Cambridge MA rules actually work, and are readily implemented electronically--the various transferrable vote schemes that I have seen turn out once understood to drive minority opinions out of the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;I will ask the Bylaws Committee at the upcoming convention to recommend that the delegates amend the method of electing NatCom members. Instead of five at-large representatives and up to nine regional representatives, I suggest 14 at-large reps should be elected using Single Transferable Voting, also known as &#8220;Choice Voting.&#8221; &#8221;</p>
	<p>My university&#8217;s faculty does this for committee elections.  While it depends which set of rules you use&#8212;the Cambridge MA rules actually work, and are readily implemented electronically&#8212;the various transferrable vote schemes that I have seen turn out once understood to drive minority opinions out of the system.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: Paulie</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604128</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604128</guid>
					<description>http://www.chuckmoulton.org/libertarian/2008/voting/

Scroll down to bottom of page</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><a href='http://www.chuckmoulton.org/libertarian/2008/voting/' rel='nofollow'>http://www.chuckmoulton.org/libertarian/2008/voting/</a></p>
	<p>Scroll down to bottom of page</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: Paulie</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604127</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604127</guid>
					<description>Here are a couple of ideas from Redpath's issues page 

http://www.redpathforchair.com/issues.htm

which I support. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;

National Committee Elections

CHANGE THE ELECTION METHOD FOR NATCOM

Why does the LP use election rules for internal elections that are the same rules that are used to make our candidates unelectable in the United States? Single member legislative districts hurt the electability of our candidates. So, why do we use them for NatCom? And, how can all the effort expended to form NatCom regions before and at our conventions be termed anything but “waste?”

I will ask the Bylaws Committee at the upcoming convention to recommend that the delegates amend the method of electing NatCom members. Instead of five at-large representatives and up to nine regional representatives, I suggest 14 at-large reps should be elected using Single Transferable Voting, also known as “Choice Voting.”

This is a proportional voting system that has a history of being used in the United States and other democracies around the world. In many instances, Choice Voting would greatly enhance the electability of LP candidates to legislative bodies. You can learn more about Choice Voting at fairvote.org/pr/choiceintro.htm or elsewhere on the Internet.

I have nothing against NatCom regional representatives—but this is not about them. This is about internally adopting voting systems that would greatly enhance our election prospects if implemented in the outside world.
National Committee Meetings

IT’S TOO EXPENSIVE TO BE ON NATCOM

I’ve been on the Libertarian National Committee during two periods: September 1989 to September 1993 and March 2003 to the present. During the earlier period, the LNC met three times per year in face-to-face meetings. During the latter period, the LNC has had in-person meetings four times per year. I would be surprised if the total cost of any LNC meeting is less than $10,000, with the members of the National Committee paying the bulk of this as travel expenses. Given our resources, this is far too expensive. And, with the airline industry’s financial problems, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the cost of air travel increase.

The LNC should strongly consider online meetings. Six online meetings per year, each taking six to eight hours, should be sufficient to handle to LNC’s business. NatCom members would probably need to have broadband Internet service, but that would be much less expensive than traveling to NatCom meetings.

If the LNC doesn’t institute online meetings, it should at least reduce the number of annual meetings from four to three. It worked from 1989 to 1993; it would work again.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Where do Bennett and Hancock stand on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Here are a couple of ideas from Redpath&#8217;s issues page</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.redpathforchair.com/issues.htm' rel='nofollow'>http://www.redpathforchair.com/issues.htm</a></p>
	<p>which I support.</p>
	<blockquote>
	<p>National Committee Elections</p>
	<p><span class="caps">CHANGE THE ELECTION METHOD FOR NATCOM</span></p>
	<p>Why does the LP use election rules for internal elections that are the same rules that are used to make our candidates unelectable in the United States? Single member legislative districts hurt the electability of our candidates. So, why do we use them for NatCom? And, how can all the effort expended to form NatCom regions before and at our conventions be termed anything but &#8220;waste?&#8221;</p>
	<p>I will ask the Bylaws Committee at the upcoming convention to recommend that the delegates amend the method of electing NatCom members. Instead of five at-large representatives and up to nine regional representatives, I suggest 14 at-large reps should be elected using Single Transferable Voting, also known as &#8220;Choice Voting.&#8221;</p>
	<p>This is a proportional voting system that has a history of being used in the United States and other democracies around the world. In many instances, Choice Voting would greatly enhance the electability of LP candidates to legislative bodies. You can learn more about Choice Voting at fairvote.org/pr/choiceintro.htm or elsewhere on the Internet.</p>
	<p>I have nothing against NatCom regional representatives&#8212;but this is not about them. This is about internally adopting voting systems that would greatly enhance our election prospects if implemented in the outside world.<br />
National Committee Meetings</p>
	<p>IT&#8217;S <span class="caps">TOO EXPENSIVE TO BE ON NATCOM</span></p>
	<p>I&#8217;ve been on the Libertarian National Committee during two periods: September 1989 to September 1993 and March 2003 to the present. During the earlier period, the <span class="caps">LNC</span> met three times per year in face-to-face meetings. During the latter period, the <span class="caps">LNC</span> has had in-person meetings four times per year. I would be surprised if the total cost of any <span class="caps">LNC</span> meeting is less than $10,000, with the members of the National Committee paying the bulk of this as travel expenses. Given our resources, this is far too expensive. And, with the airline industry&#8217;s financial problems, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see the cost of air travel increase.</p>
	<p>The <span class="caps">LNC</span> should strongly consider online meetings. Six online meetings per year, each taking six to eight hours, should be sufficient to handle to <span class="caps">LNC</span>&#8217;s business. NatCom members would probably need to have broadband Internet service, but that would be much less expensive than traveling to NatCom meetings.</p>
	<p>If the <span class="caps">LNC</span> doesn&#8217;t institute online meetings, it should at least reduce the number of annual meetings from four to three. It worked from 1989 to 1993; it would work again.<br />
</blockquote></p>
	<p>Where do Bennett and Hancock stand on this?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: Former LP Life Member</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604122</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604122</guid>
					<description>After a torrent of insults about Ruth Bennett, disinter said:

&lt;i&gt;Email me if you want juicy details.&lt;/i&gt;

I have asked disinter to send me the details, but he apparently has none.

I assume he will now make additional posts quoting himself and continue to provide no backup for his claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>After a torrent of insults about Ruth Bennett, disinter said:</p>
	<p><i>Email me if you want juicy details.</i></p>
	<p>I have asked disinter to send me the details, but he apparently has none.</p>
	<p>I assume he will now make additional posts quoting himself and continue to provide no backup for his claims.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: disinter</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604118</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604118</guid>
					<description>Seebeck - I found a list here:

http://www.chuckmoulton.org/libertarian/2008/voting/

It looks like the candidates are:

    * Bill Redpath (incumbent)
    * Ruth Bennett
    * Ernie Hancock</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Seebeck &#8211; I found a list here:</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.chuckmoulton.org/libertarian/2008/voting/' rel='nofollow'>http://www.chuckmoulton.org/libertarian/2008/voting/</a></p>
	<p>It looks like the candidates are:</p>
	<p>    * Bill Redpath (incumbent)<br />
    * Ruth Bennett<br />
    * Ernie Hancock
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
		<title>by: Angela Keaton</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604111</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/12/ruth-bennett-to-run-for-lnc-chair/#comment-604111</guid>
					<description>Mike Theodore:

If you are interested in some youth organizing and outreach for the LP, please email Grandma Keaton at (my first name) at liberatedspace dot com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Mike Theodore:</p>
	<p>If you are interested in some youth organizing and outreach for the LP, please email Grandma Keaton at (my first name) at liberatedspace dot com.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
</channel>
</rss>
