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	<title>Comments on: Outright Libertarians Executive Committee Comments on Bob Barr&#8217;s Declaration of Candidacy for the Libertarian Nomination</title>
	<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/outright-libertarians-executive-committee-comments-on-bob-barrs-declaration-of-candidacy-for-the-libertarian-nomination/</link>
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		<title>by: Angela Keaton</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/outright-libertarians-executive-committee-comments-on-bob-barrs-declaration-of-candidacy-for-the-libertarian-nomination/#comment-608393</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Susan,

The key to my win in Portland was staying out of the sun all summer and getting up an hour and half early to straighten my hair.  I also grabbed a lot of Reform ass to employ a Yankism. Until Rick McGinnis told me not to feel up the delegates so much...something about a NAP whatever that is.

People are so uptight.

The Keaton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Susan,</p>
	<p>The key to my win in Portland was staying out of the sun all summer and getting up an hour and half early to straighten my hair.  I also grabbed a lot of Reform ass to employ a Yankism. Until Rick McGinnis told me not to feel up the delegates so much&#8230;something about a <span class="caps">NAP</span> whatever that is.</p>
	<p>People are so uptight.</p>
	<p>The Keaton</p>
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		<title>by: Clark</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/outright-libertarians-executive-committee-comments-on-bob-barrs-declaration-of-candidacy-for-the-libertarian-nomination/#comment-608187</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>...btw, i certainly hope you decent libertarians have a good time and get good and liquored-up and rowdy in denver..i'll be watching ?c-span on the propaganda portal...

...one favor from you denverites...will someone please, at least, LOUDLY boo bobo barf, wayne rot, etcetercrats for me?...i'll be booing them in my den...(hopefully sipping a cool IPA beer and stuffing my nacho-chip chute with home-made salsa...the best on the planet, btw!)..

...btw, ?i hear justin raimondo is on live public radio today at noon-ish..good writer, but, it seems, a weird shill for the likes of republican dissembler and sphincter-hole pat buchanan..and others..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>...btw, i certainly hope you decent libertarians have a good time and get good and liquored-up and rowdy in denver..i&#8217;ll be watching ?c-span on the propaganda portal&#8230;</p>
	<p>...one favor from you denverites&#8230;will someone please, at least, <span class="caps">LOUDLY</span> boo bobo barf, wayne rot, etcetercrats for me?...i&#8217;ll be booing them in my den&#8230;(hopefully sipping a cool <span class="caps">IPA</span> beer and stuffing my nacho-chip chute with home-made salsa&#8230;the best on the planet, btw!)..</p>
	<p>...btw, ?i hear justin raimondo is on live public radio today at noon-ish..good writer, but, it seems, a weird shill for the likes of republican dissembler and sphincter-hole pat buchanan..and others..</p>
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		<title>by: Clark</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/outright-libertarians-executive-committee-comments-on-bob-barrs-declaration-of-candidacy-for-the-libertarian-nomination/#comment-608171</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Brian Miller Says: May 15th, 2008 at 4:07 pm 
'NUT. and FUCK YOU to boot.' [tim wet]

And this is the new way to attract voters and enact real change too, I suppose? (END)

...brian, this could be pent-up rage at me for having exposed him as a monetary dildon/republicrat over at ?'the official site of the LNC'..

...he appears a little 'we$t around the ears'..hopefully, he doesn't besmirch 'libertarianism' any more!  (i sense he's one of those kneel boor 'libertarians'..i.e. a stooooooooooopid republican with a tax gripe!) ;o)

...and i love being called a 'radical' by goddamned fool republicrat leaf-flailers...'rad'ish, root, fundamental..sound!..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Brian Miller Says: May 15th, 2008 at 4:07 pm<br />
&#8216;NUT. and <span class="caps">FUCK YOU</span> to boot.&#8217; [tim wet]</p>
	<p>And this is the new way to attract voters and enact real change too, I suppose? (END)</p>
	<p>...brian, this could be pent-up rage at me for having exposed him as a monetary dildon/republicrat over at ?&#8217;the official site of the <span class="caps">LNC</span>&#8217;..</p>
	<p>...he appears a little &#8216;we$t around the ears&#8217;..hopefully, he doesn&#8217;t besmirch &#8216;libertarianism&#8217; any more!  (i sense he&#8217;s one of those kneel boor &#8216;libertarians&#8217;..i.e. a stooooooooooopid republican with a tax gripe!) ;o)</p>
	<p>...and i love being called a &#8216;radical&#8217; by goddamned fool republicrat leaf-flailers&#8230;&#8217;rad&#8217;ish, root, fundamental..sound!..</p>
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		<title>by: Susan Hogarth - vodka drinker</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/outright-libertarians-executive-committee-comments-on-bob-barrs-declaration-of-candidacy-for-the-libertarian-nomination/#comment-608154</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;I hope that you will be ready for 300 placards and t-shirts that are already sitting in Denver that say Ban Hogarth.&lt;/i&gt;

Wow, I was reading backwards and though Keaton was joking. Seriously? How cool!

Could you also do one that says 'Ban Radicals'? 'Cause our propaganda budget is pretty marginal. 

&lt;i&gt;You will not make your election to the LNC.&lt;/i&gt;

Not your choice or mine, bub. That's up to the delegates.

Angela says:

&lt;i&gt;There will be radicals on the LNC regardless of your efforts. You have a choice however. You can sensibly choose Miss Hogarth, a married white (probably WASP) non drug using heterosexual or you will forever be blessed with my butch bisexual half Jewish mix raced rump.

Take your pick.&lt;/i&gt;

(1) Of course there will be radicals on the LNC. (LNC = Libertarians Not Conservatives)

(2) Choice: to quote my husband: Not one or the other, but both!

(3) married, check; white, check; WASP, by birth but actually WASA; non-drug-using, check (excluding caffeine, natch); heteo, check (for now).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I hope that you will be ready for 300 placards and t-shirts that are already sitting in Denver that say Ban Hogarth.</i></p>
	<p>Wow, I was reading backwards and though Keaton was joking. Seriously? How cool!</p>
	<p>Could you also do one that says &#8216;Ban Radicals&#8217;? &#8216;Cause our propaganda budget is pretty marginal.</p>
	<p><i>You will not make your election to the <span class="caps">LNC</span>.</i></p>
	<p>Not your choice or mine, bub. That&#8217;s up to the delegates.</p>
	<p>Angela says:</p>
	<p><i>There will be radicals on the <span class="caps">LNC</span> regardless of your efforts. You have a choice however. You can sensibly choose Miss Hogarth, a married white (probably <span class="caps">WASP</span>) non drug using heterosexual or you will forever be blessed with my butch bisexual half Jewish mix raced rump.</p>
	<p>Take your pick.</i></p>
	<p>(1) Of course there will be radicals on the <span class="caps">LNC</span>. (LNC = Libertarians Not Conservatives)</p>
	<p>(2) Choice: to quote my husband: Not one or the other, but both!</p>
	<p>(3) married, check; white, check; <span class="caps">WASP</span>, by birth but actually <span class="caps">WASA</span>; non-drug-using, check (excluding caffeine, natch); heteo, check (for now).</p>
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		<title>by: Susan Hogarth - vodka drinker</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/outright-libertarians-executive-committee-comments-on-bob-barrs-declaration-of-candidacy-for-the-libertarian-nomination/#comment-608147</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;I’m jealous. I’m going to get Aaron Starr to pay for 300 Ban Keaton shirts. You will not take my crown as Anarchist Bitch.&lt;/i&gt;

Flattery will get you ... everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I&#8217;m jealous. I&#8217;m going to get Aaron Starr to pay for 300 Ban Keaton shirts. You will not take my crown as Anarchist Bitch.</i></p>
	<p>Flattery will get you &#8230; everywhere.</p>
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		<title>by: Angela Keaton</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/outright-libertarians-executive-committee-comments-on-bob-barrs-declaration-of-candidacy-for-the-libertarian-nomination/#comment-607988</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 05:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;BTW, Angela, can I have what you’re having? Whatever it is, I wanna have that much fun too!&lt;/i&gt;

Please, you'd end up with a stomach pump if you tried to keep up with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i><span class="caps">BTW</span>, Angela, can I have what you&#8217;re having? Whatever it is, I wanna have that much fun too!</i></p>
	<p>Please, you&#8217;d end up with a stomach pump if you tried to keep up with me.</p>
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		<title>by: disinter</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/outright-libertarians-executive-committee-comments-on-bob-barrs-declaration-of-candidacy-for-the-libertarian-nomination/#comment-607631</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 02:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;rather than Phillies, who simply champions letting gays have a share at the federal trough with hate crime laws, discrimination laws, federal interference in adoption and marriage, etc.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This would be the &quot;equality&quot; the Outright Liber-Nazis cry about all the time...

&lt;blockquote&gt;If you truly champion the rights of gay people, then you would be fighting to keep the government out of the workplace, marriage, and adoption, rather than expanding it to create thought crimes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That is just it.  The Outright Liber-Nazis don't actually champion the rights of gay people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>
<blockquote>rather than Phillies, who simply champions letting gays have a share at the federal trough with hate crime laws, discrimination laws, federal interference in adoption and marriage, etc.</blockquote></p>
	<p>This would be the &#8220;equality&#8221; the Outright Liber-Nazis cry about all the time&#8230;</p>
	<p>
<blockquote>If you truly champion the rights of gay people, then you would be fighting to keep the government out of the workplace, marriage, and adoption, rather than expanding it to create thought crimes.</blockquote></p>
	<p>That is just it.  The Outright Liber-Nazis don&#8217;t actually champion the rights of gay people.</p>
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		<title>by: Hugh Jass</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/outright-libertarians-executive-committee-comments-on-bob-barrs-declaration-of-candidacy-for-the-libertarian-nomination/#comment-607506</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 00:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;‘Gay rights’ is a collectivist concept.

Steve Newton explained rather well why this is nonsense.

I’d only add that the declaration that “gay rights is a collectivist concept” is as absurd as arguing that “gun owner rights is a collectivist concept” or “taxpayer rights is a collectivist concept” or “free speech rights are a collectivist concept.”

All those concepts apply to a group of people, but it doesn’t make them “collective”—it simply means that a significant group of people have individual rights that are often denied to them by dint of being a member of that group.

It’s government that classifies them into the group and then denies them their individual rights as a result of them being in that group. Repudiating that attack by government is the ultimate defense of individual rights.&quot;

There are several flaws in this:
1. As you gays point out so often, homsexuality isn't a choice. Owning a gun is. 
2. If you are truly defending the rights of gay people, rather than collectivist 'gay rights', then you have endorsed Kubby, who actually worked for the rights of both gays and straights to smoke medicinal marijuana, rather than Phillies, who simply champions letting gays have a share at the federal trough with hate crime laws, discrimination laws, federal interference in adoption and marriage, etc. 
3. If you truly champion the rights of gay people, then you would be fighting to keep the government out of the workplace, marriage, and adoption, rather than expanding it to create thought crimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;&#8216;Gay rights&#8217; is a collectivist concept.</p>
	<p>Steve Newton explained rather well why this is nonsense.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;d only add that the declaration that &#8220;gay rights is a collectivist concept&#8221; is as absurd as arguing that &#8220;gun owner rights is a collectivist concept&#8221; or &#8220;taxpayer rights is a collectivist concept&#8221; or &#8220;free speech rights are a collectivist concept.&#8221;</p>
	<p>All those concepts apply to a group of people, but it doesn&#8217;t make them &#8220;collective&#8221;&#8212;it simply means that a significant group of people have individual rights that are often denied to them by dint of being a member of that group.</p>
	<p>It&#8217;s government that classifies them into the group and then denies them their individual rights as a result of them being in that group. Repudiating that attack by government is the ultimate defense of individual rights.&#8221;</p>
	<p>There are several flaws in this:<br />
1. As you gays point out so often, homsexuality isn&#8217;t a choice. Owning a gun is.<br />
2. If you are truly defending the rights of gay people, rather than collectivist &#8216;gay rights&#8217;, then you have endorsed Kubby, who actually worked for the rights of both gays and straights to smoke medicinal marijuana, rather than Phillies, who simply champions letting gays have a share at the federal trough with hate crime laws, discrimination laws, federal interference in adoption and marriage, etc.<br />
3. If you truly champion the rights of gay people, then you would be fighting to keep the government out of the workplace, marriage, and adoption, rather than expanding it to create thought crimes.</p>
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		<title>by: Michael Seebeck</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/outright-libertarians-executive-committee-comments-on-bob-barrs-declaration-of-candidacy-for-the-libertarian-nomination/#comment-607359</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>BTW, Angela, can I have what you're having?  Whatever it is, I wanna have that much fun too! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">BTW</span>, Angela, can I have what you&#8217;re having?  Whatever it is, I wanna have that much fun too! <img src='http://thirdpartywatch.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>by: Michael Seebeck</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Angela, Susan, please!  There's plenty of room for both of you to tag team on the Anarchist Bitch title!  Besides, we need all the women in the LNC we can get! :D

Besides,  if I see a &quot;Ban&quot; anybody T-shirt at the convention, I'll use it to check the oil and other fluids on my rental car, then toss it out.  The only exception is a Ban Dondero shirt, and that I might turn into a flag.

And if you feel the urge to catfight it out, make it a fundraiser! :D

Team Seebeck, Male 2/5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Angela, Susan, please!  There&#8217;s plenty of room for both of you to tag team on the Anarchist Bitch title!  Besides, we need all the women in the <span class="caps">LNC</span> we can get! <img src='http://thirdpartywatch.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>Besides,  if I see a &#8220;Ban&#8221; anybody T-shirt at the convention, I&#8217;ll use it to check the oil and other fluids on my rental car, then toss it out.  The only exception is a Ban Dondero shirt, and that I might turn into a flag.</p>
	<p>And if you feel the urge to catfight it out, make it a fundraiser! <img src='http://thirdpartywatch.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>Team Seebeck, Male 2/5</p>
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		<title>by: Michael Seebeck</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/outright-libertarians-executive-committee-comments-on-bob-barrs-declaration-of-candidacy-for-the-libertarian-nomination/#comment-607329</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;The point is, Barr seems to want to run an agressive, no-holds-barred (pardon the pun), national, “in it to win it” campaign. &quot;

Then why can't he give a straight answer to a question?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;The point is, Barr seems to want to run an agressive, no-holds-barred (pardon the pun), national, &#8220;in it to win it&#8221; campaign. &#8221;</p>
	<p>Then why can&#8217;t he give a straight answer to a question?</p>
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		<title>by: Angela Keaton</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/outright-libertarians-executive-committee-comments-on-bob-barrs-declaration-of-candidacy-for-the-libertarian-nomination/#comment-607175</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Susan,

I'm jealous.  I'm going to get Aaron Starr to pay for 300 Ban Keaton shirts.  You will not take my crown as Anarchist Bitch. 

The Keaton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Susan,</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m jealous.  I&#8217;m going to get Aaron Starr to pay for 300 Ban Keaton shirts.  You will not take my crown as Anarchist Bitch.</p>
	<p>The Keaton</p>
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		<title>by: Angela Keaton</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/outright-libertarians-executive-committee-comments-on-bob-barrs-declaration-of-candidacy-for-the-libertarian-nomination/#comment-607167</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/outright-libertarians-executive-committee-comments-on-bob-barrs-declaration-of-candidacy-for-the-libertarian-nomination/#comment-607167</guid>
					<description>Ah...Mr. Britton,

There will be radicals on the LNC regardless of your efforts. You have a choice however. You can sensibly choose Miss Hogarth, a married white (probably WASP) non drug using heterosexual or you will forever be blessed with my butch bisexual half Jewish mix raced rump.  

Take your pick. 

Angela Keaton Doherty, Anarcho-capitalist, paleo-cunt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ah&#8230;Mr. Britton,</p>
	<p>There will be radicals on the <span class="caps">LNC</span> regardless of your efforts. You have a choice however. You can sensibly choose Miss Hogarth, a married white (probably <span class="caps">WASP</span>) non drug using heterosexual or you will forever be blessed with my butch bisexual half Jewish mix raced rump.</p>
	<p>Take your pick.</p>
	<p>Angela Keaton Doherty, Anarcho-capitalist, paleo-cunt</p>
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		<title>by: TedB</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/outright-libertarians-executive-committee-comments-on-bob-barrs-declaration-of-candidacy-for-the-libertarian-nomination/#comment-607160</guid>
					<description>I'm delighted to have a decent alternative to McCain who I was going to hold my nose and vote for. Barr's got my vote now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m delighted to have a decent alternative to McCain who I was going to hold my nose and vote for. Barr&#8217;s got my vote now.</p>
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		<title>by: Brian Miller</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/outright-libertarians-executive-committee-comments-on-bob-barrs-declaration-of-candidacy-for-the-libertarian-nomination/#comment-607104</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;NUT. and FUCK YOU to boot.&lt;/i&gt;

And this is the new way to attract voters and enact real change too, I suppose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i><span class="caps">NUT</span>. and <span class="caps">FUCK YOU</span> to boot.</i></p>
	<p>And this is the new way to attract voters and enact real change too, I suppose?</p>
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