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	<title>Comments on: Video: The Steve Kubby Story</title>
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		<title>by: chief wana dubie</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-607015</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-607015</guid>
					<description>JRE, I was thinking of a KUBBY/DUBIE ticket, but since I'm kicked out of the party, that's doubtful. I'd be at the convention, but it be just another case of wasting, time, money, and gas! America, needs something different, not more of the same! I guess that I need to follow the Kubbies, into exile, because we have given our nation to the beast!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><span class="caps">JRE</span>, I was thinking of a <span class="caps">KUBBY</span>/DUBIE ticket, but since I&#8217;m kicked out of the party, that&#8217;s doubtful. I&#8217;d be at the convention, but it be just another case of wasting, time, money, and gas! America, needs something different, not more of the same! I guess that I need to follow the Kubbies, into exile, because we have given our nation to the beast!</p>
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		<title>by: jre</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606889</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606889</guid>
					<description>Hey Chief wana Dubie.......

I am with ya brother, its getting close to convention time and the factions are lining up. Are we going to be the party of principle and line up behind a strong platform and a strongly libertarian candidate or are we going to line up with a weak platform and a candidate who may also be weak concerning long held libertarian principles. I personally believe that with a strong platform, and that means one that has an end means or end goals, that the delegates as a whole could get behind a Barr, Root, or Gravel ticket and still preserve what our party stands for. But.... if we get the notopian platform and a moderate candidate then the party will be ripe for overtaking by people that are not in the least bit libertarian. I am just one person with an opinion, but that's how I see it. Everyone should remember that Mr. Barr did not wait for our platform to change before he sought us out...he came on board knowing what we as the party of principle stand for. I can accept that moderate or radical candidates for the lp will &quot;soft pedal&quot; our message to the media as in the way Mr. Barr has spoken lately, but if you totally screw up the underlying principles that are contained in our platform THEN the lp is in trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey Chief wana Dubie&#8230;....</p>
	<p>I am with ya brother, its getting close to convention time and the factions are lining up. Are we going to be the party of principle and line up behind a strong platform and a strongly libertarian candidate or are we going to line up with a weak platform and a candidate who may also be weak concerning long held libertarian principles. I personally believe that with a strong platform, and that means one that has an end means or end goals, that the delegates as a whole could get behind a Barr, Root, or Gravel ticket and still preserve what our party stands for. But&#8230;. if we get the notopian platform and a moderate candidate then the party will be ripe for overtaking by people that are not in the least bit libertarian. I am just one person with an opinion, but that&#8217;s how I see it. Everyone should remember that Mr. Barr did not wait for our platform to change before he sought us out&#8230;he came on board knowing what we as the party of principle stand for. I can accept that moderate or radical candidates for the lp will &#8220;soft pedal&#8221; our message to the media as in the way Mr. Barr has spoken lately, but if you totally screw up the underlying principles that are contained in our platform <span class="caps">THEN</span> the lp is in trouble.</p>
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		<title>by: chief wana dubie</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606742</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606742</guid>
					<description>I'd rather die standing, than live on my knees! Is that why, I'm being ignored, on this BLOG, because, I'm speaking, over everyone's heads, because, your all living on your knees? Are you telling me, that I'm the last one standing, that's LIVING, our forefathers stand of &quot;UNITED WE STAND&quot;, and, &quot;GIVE ME LIBERTY, OR GIVE ME DEATH&quot;                             America, is the constitution! For without it were just, MOTHER ENGLAND!     If the constitution, is not valid for ALL, then it's not valid at ALL!                The constitution, is the only thing, that gives the government, the right to govern! Without it, there is no government! All of our elected officials, took an oath to uphold, and protect the constitution, from foreign and DOMESTIC ENEMIES! Where did the constitution go? The HIPPIES, nor the FATTIES, smoked, or ate it! Some one is accountable/ the government! I DARE CALL IT TREASON! Is there anybody with me? Or, am I the last American ALSO?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;d rather die standing, than live on my knees! Is that why, I&#8217;m being ignored, on this <span class="caps">BLOG</span>, because, I&#8217;m speaking, over everyone&#8217;s heads, because, your all living on your knees? Are you telling me, that I&#8217;m the last one standing, that&#8217;s <span class="caps">LIVING</span>, our forefathers stand of &#8220;UNITED <span class="caps">WE STAND</span>&#8221;, and, &#8220;GIVE <span class="caps">ME LIBERTY</span>, OR <span class="caps">GIVE ME DEATH</span>&#8221;                             America, is the constitution! For without it were just, <span class="caps">MOTHER ENGLAND</span>!     If the constitution, is not valid for <span class="caps">ALL</span>, then it&#8217;s not valid at <span class="caps">ALL</span>!                The constitution, is the only thing, that gives the government, the right to govern! Without it, there is no government! All of our elected officials, took an oath to uphold, and protect the constitution, from foreign and <span class="caps">DOMESTIC ENEMIES</span>! Where did the constitution go? The <span class="caps">HIPPIES</span>, nor the <span class="caps">FATTIES</span>, smoked, or ate it! Some one is accountable/ the government! <span class="caps">I DARE CALL IT TREASON</span>! Is there anybody with me? Or, am I the last American <span class="caps">ALSO</span>?</p>
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		<title>by: chief wana dubie</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606655</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606655</guid>
					<description>Medical cannabis, is not the issue, don't let them side track, what must be done! The hemp plant, is the only thing, that can rid global warming! If life hands you a greenhouse, then plant it! It's time to plant the planet, for we have used it up! Hemp will solve the fuel crisis! Hemp will end world hunger! Hemp's, 50,000 uses will create millions of jobs!                           You can fight for special privilege, for the few can have their medical cannabis, taking some power from one set of gangsters, to give to another set of gangsters, maintaining the status quo of the drug warriors! Still divided, still only liberty and justice, for those with money! just another privilege class! I choose to fight for liberty and justice for ALL, OR NONE!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Medical cannabis, is not the issue, don&#8217;t let them side track, what must be done! The hemp plant, is the only thing, that can rid global warming! If life hands you a greenhouse, then plant it! It&#8217;s time to plant the planet, for we have used it up! Hemp will solve the fuel crisis! Hemp will end world hunger! Hemp&#8217;s, 50,000 uses will create millions of jobs!                           You can fight for special privilege, for the few can have their medical cannabis, taking some power from one set of gangsters, to give to another set of gangsters, maintaining the status quo of the drug warriors! Still divided, still only liberty and justice, for those with money! just another privilege class! I choose to fight for liberty and justice for <span class="caps">ALL</span>, OR <span class="caps">NONE</span><img src="!" alt="" border="0" /></p>
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		<title>by: chief wana dubie</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606597</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606597</guid>
					<description>If your not fighting for all the rights of all of the people all of the time then you have no business/ right, fighting for anyone's rights, any of the time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If your not fighting for all the rights of all of the people all of the time then you have no business/ right, fighting for anyone&#8217;s rights, any of the time!</p>
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		<title>by: Stefan</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606570</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606570</guid>
					<description>Susan,
check this out before you judge Barr too harsh on his current stance
stopthedrugwar . org/chronicle/479/bob_barr_joins_mpp
politico . com/news/stories/0307/3329.html

He not only accepts the legality of medical cannibis, he is actively campaigning for it legally. His legal background certainly means he knows the laws and the fact that he was an ex-drugwarrior for the reason that he can persuade the enforcers of these drug war much better and has authority. Also, making it a state issue, where the federal government cannot override it, gives more freedom for people.
The override of the state drug law policy was started by CLinton and Janet Reno was/is really some vicious woman! (as we can see in this video). 

Kubby and wife and children really look very nice. They must have had quite an experience. Newly Ron Paul and Barney Frank have introduced a medical cannabis bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Susan,<br />
check this out before you judge Barr too harsh on his current stance<br />
stopthedrugwar . org/chronicle/479/bob_barr_joins_mpp<br />
politico . com/news/stories/0307/3329.html</p>
	<p>He not only accepts the legality of medical cannibis, he is actively campaigning for it legally. His legal background certainly means he knows the laws and the fact that he was an ex-drugwarrior for the reason that he can persuade the enforcers of these drug war much better and has authority. Also, making it a state issue, where the federal government cannot override it, gives more freedom for people.<br />
The override of the state drug law policy was started by CLinton and Janet Reno was/is really some vicious woman! (as we can see in this video).</p>
	<p>Kubby and wife and children really look very nice. They must have had quite an experience. Newly Ron Paul and Barney Frank have introduced a medical cannabis bill.</p>
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		<title>by: chief wana dubie</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606548</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606548</guid>
					<description>Of course, I have SKELETONS, in my closet, as well as a flaming pot leaf tattooed on my forehead. It's legal in today's fascist &quot; NOT-SEE&quot; America, to push someone over the edge, just don't dare be the one being pushed, because your party won't be there to pick up the pieces. I have lived my life according to party principles, and ideals, only to find that the party, is just like the others, just talk. I'm a sheep in wolfs clothing, because all the wolfs are dressed like sheep. I'TS time to shake the party, and expose, and rid the wolfs, if the party is not free, how can we ever expect to have a free country again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Of course, I have <span class="caps">SKELETONS</span>, in my closet, as well as a flaming pot leaf tattooed on my forehead. It&#8217;s legal in today&#8217;s fascist &#8221; <span class="caps">NOT</span>-SEE&#8221; America, to push someone over the edge, just don&#8217;t dare be the one being pushed, because your party won&#8217;t be there to pick up the pieces. I have lived my life according to party principles, and ideals, only to find that the party, is just like the others, just talk. I&#8217;m a sheep in wolfs clothing, because all the wolfs are dressed like sheep. I&#8217;TS time to shake the party, and expose, and rid the wolfs, if the party is not free, how can we ever expect to have a free country again!</p>
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		<title>by: chief wana dubie</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606501</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606501</guid>
					<description>I for one, thinks, that it is time to split the party. The party leaders, have traded party principles, to the prince of darkness, for special privilege. I thought that we were a party of patriots, and rebels, not vein puppets, rejects, from the controlling factions. Is there any free thinkers, left in the party? Or are they all disqualified, because of a prior act of servitude? BEING FREE?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I for one, thinks, that it is time to split the party. The party leaders, have traded party principles, to the prince of darkness, for special privilege. I thought that we were a party of patriots, and rebels, not vein puppets, rejects, from the controlling factions. Is there any free thinkers, left in the party? Or are they all disqualified, because of a prior act of servitude? <span class="caps">BEING FREE</span>?</p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606017</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 08:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606017</guid>
					<description>Knapp,

Im sure Kubby doesnt like to makeany attacks, largely because it could come to the detriment of the party---but does he put party above the issues? Its become clear that Barr does NOT fully support ending the War on Drugs. Do you or Kubby want Barr representing his position as the Libertarian position? I'd suggest Kubby get up and make a forceful speech denouncing such nanny-statism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Knapp,</p>
	<p>Im sure Kubby doesnt like to makeany attacks, largely because it could come to the detriment of the party&#8212;-but does he put party above the issues? Its become clear that Barr does <span class="caps">NOT</span> fully support ending the War on Drugs. Do you or Kubby want Barr representing his position as the Libertarian position? I&#8217;d suggest Kubby get up and make a forceful speech denouncing such nanny-statism.</p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606014</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 08:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606014</guid>
					<description>&quot;Yeah, Chuck Baldwin might actually be more libertarian than Bob Barr.&quot;

Not to mention--he doesnt have as many skeletons in his personal closet. He's had one wife, never had an abortion, and hasnt radically changed his political worldview over the past 2 years. Also, contributing tens of thousands of dollars to neo-cons is pretty bad too, as well support for the FairTax.

All in all---the guy is pro-libery, but shouldnt be seated at the head of the table. If Barr's conversion is honest, and i'm not convinced it is, then he should spend the next 4 years working to advance Liberty--and then run for President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Yeah, Chuck Baldwin might actually be more libertarian than Bob Barr.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Not to mention&#8212;he doesnt have as many skeletons in his personal closet. He&#8217;s had one wife, never had an abortion, and hasnt radically changed his political worldview over the past 2 years. Also, contributing tens of thousands of dollars to neo-cons is pretty bad too, as well support for the FairTax.</p>
	<p>All in all&#8212;-the guy is pro-libery, but shouldnt be seated at the head of the table. If Barr&#8217;s conversion is honest, and i&#8217;m not convinced it is, then he should spend the next 4 years working to advance Liberty&#8212;and then run for President.</p>
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		<title>by: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606007</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 08:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-606007</guid>
					<description>&quot;As a side note, I like to keep track of the players and their likely interests. You’re a Constitution Party activist, and a Barr nomination would likely cut into the Baldwin ticket’s potential to reach and persuade conservative voters.&quot;

Im a Liberty Activist, affilliated with the Constitution Party--but who also worked in Ron Paul's campaign and works with the Libertarians in my local and state areas.
But--I do view Barr as a detriment, both to my party and to the larger Liberty movement. Barr is not a good spokesman for said movement--because he just has too many skeletons. I'd rather split the &quot;Paul vote&quot; 2 ways (between Baldwin and Ruwart, or Baldwin and Kubby) than split the &quot;Conservative Paul vote&quot; 2 ways (Barr and Baldwin) and leave the &quot;Left-Paul vote&quot; at home.

So I have more than one interest here. I worked closely with Libertarian-leaning Greens during the Ron Paul campaign to try and reach out to young Leftists and college-students in general. Although i'm DEFINETLY on the right-end of the spectrum, I see the Liberty Movement as running across the breadth of the political spectrum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;As a side note, I like to keep track of the players and their likely interests. You&#8217;re a Constitution Party activist, and a Barr nomination would likely cut into the Baldwin ticket&#8217;s potential to reach and persuade conservative voters.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Im a Liberty Activist, affilliated with the Constitution Party&#8212;but who also worked in Ron Paul&#8217;s campaign and works with the Libertarians in my local and state areas.<br />
But&#8212;I do view Barr as a detriment, both to my party and to the larger Liberty movement. Barr is not a good spokesman for said movement&#8212;because he just has too many skeletons. I&#8217;d rather split the &#8220;Paul vote&#8221; 2 ways (between Baldwin and Ruwart, or Baldwin and Kubby) than split the &#8220;Conservative Paul vote&#8221; 2 ways (Barr and Baldwin) and leave the &#8220;Left-Paul vote&#8221; at home.</p>
	<p>So I have more than one interest here. I worked closely with Libertarian-leaning Greens during the Ron Paul campaign to try and reach out to young Leftists and college-students in general. Although i&#8217;m <span class="caps">DEFINETLY</span> on the right-end of the spectrum, I see the Liberty Movement as running across the breadth of the political spectrum.</p>
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		<title>by: chief wana dubie</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-605778</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 05:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-605778</guid>
					<description>Correct me if I'm wrong, I became a libertarian, because, they wanted to end the drug war, for all, not just for sick libertarians. I thought that the party was about the liberation of the HEMP PLANT, the most useful plant on earth, that George Washington, declared legal forever. I thought that the libertarian party, was out to put an end, of the bigotry, associated, with the war  against drugs. I guess that I was WRONG!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, I became a libertarian, because, they wanted to end the drug war, for all, not just for sick libertarians. I thought that the party was about the liberation of the <span class="caps">HEMP PLANT</span>, the most useful plant on earth, that George Washington, declared legal forever. I thought that the libertarian party, was out to put an end, of the bigotry, associated, with the war  against drugs. I guess that I was <span class="caps">WRONG</span>!</p>
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		<title>by: chief wana dubie</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-605619</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 03:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-605619</guid>
					<description>Brett, you are so right!!! I've been a libertarian, since the '70's, only to find myself kicked out of the party, for being to free!!! Only to find the party embracing, the ENEMIES, of the true LIBERTARIAN philosophy, and IDEALISM!!! Just like Paul, in the new testament, he was a Christian killer, that converted, only to sway their enemies, back into their control, and rewrote the bible in his image, BARR is just another WOLF in sheep's clothing!!! DUPPED AGAIN!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Brett, you are so right<img src="!" alt="" border="0" /> I&#8217;ve been a libertarian, since the &#8216;70&#8217;s, only to find myself kicked out of the party, for being to free<img src="!" alt="" border="0" /> Only to find the party embracing, the <span class="caps">ENEMIES</span>, of the true <span class="caps">LIBERTARIAN</span> philosophy, and <span class="caps">IDEALISM</span><img src="!" alt="" border="0" /> Just like Paul, in the new testament, he was a Christian killer, that converted, only to sway their enemies, back into their control, and rewrote the bible in his image, <span class="caps">BARR</span> is just another <span class="caps">WOLF</span> in sheep&#8217;s clothing<img src="!" alt="" border="0" /> DUPPED <span class="caps">AGAIN</span><img src="!" alt="" border="0" /></p>
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		<title>by: Hugh Jass</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-605606</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 03:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-605606</guid>
					<description>&quot;Barr changed his tune last I checked, but in order to be a LP candidate you must be 100% right 100% of your life. Any sign of changing your position is considered Romney-esqe and Barr must be doing it for political gain.&quot;

No, it's just that a conversion should be a true conversion. If Barr claims to have changed his stance on the War on Drugs, yet he still supports the illegality of heroin and acid, and he supports giving aid to Columbia in fighting their drug war, and he won't call for a definite withdrawal from Iraq, and he supports implementing a new 30% tax on everyone, then it is safe to question his conversion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Barr changed his tune last I checked, but in order to be a LP candidate you must be 100% right 100% of your life. Any sign of changing your position is considered Romney-esqe and Barr must be doing it for political gain.&#8221;</p>
	<p>No, it&#8217;s just that a conversion should be a true conversion. If Barr claims to have changed his stance on the War on Drugs, yet he still supports the illegality of heroin and acid, and he supports giving aid to Columbia in fighting their drug war, and he won&#8217;t call for a definite withdrawal from Iraq, and he supports implementing a new 30% tax on everyone, then it is safe to question his conversion.</p>
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		<title>by: Brent Burk</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-605534</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 02:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/14/video-the-steve-kubby-story/#comment-605534</guid>
					<description>Barr changed his tune last I checked, but in order to be a LP candidate you must be 100% right 100% of your life. Any sign of changing your position is considered Romney-esqe and Barr must be doing it for political gain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Barr changed his tune last I checked, but in order to be a LP candidate you must be 100% right 100% of your life. Any sign of changing your position is considered Romney-esqe and Barr must be doing it for political gain.</p>
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