I’m no Barr supporter, but even I can figure he’ll get a good chunk of votes. The fundraising seems to back that up.

Umm… yea. Maybe 500k instead of 200k? Woo hoo!

You have the right to call me a lying sack of shit.

You’ll earn the right to have that claim taken seriously the day you ACTUALLY produce so much as one shred of the evidence that “9/11 was an inside job” which you’ve previously claimed multiple times to have produced when in fact you haven’t.

I specifically recommended you to Kubby as the 9/11 “Truth” advocate to consult to get the “Truth” movement’s side of the story. Then he went on Barrett’s show and pulled that “all the hallmarks of a false flag operation” statement out of his ass. When I asked him where he got that idiocy, he referred me to one of the URLs you had given him, which, to the absolute best of my recollection was one of “Captain” Eric H. May’s articles comparing Operation Northwoods, etc. to 9/11. It MAY be that I’m misremembering the authorship, but I doubt it.

May 16th, 2008 at 5:23 am
Andy,

I see that you’re still trying to co-opt anyone who calls for a full investigation of 9/11 into your “it was an inside job” cult.

Yes, Kubby has called for a real investigation of 9/11. I support him on that, because I question the government’s account myself.

Unfortunately, when Kubby was on Barrett’s show, he had just been prepped—at my insistence and to my everlasting regret—by a 9/11 “Truth” cultist (you). I insisted on that preparation because I wanted him to be able to intelligently discuss the claims that would be thrown at him. Unfortunately, even though I should have, I didn’t realize that you would abuse that trust.

Is there a degree to which that is my fault? Yes—I should have known better than to trust a cultist to give my candidate sound information and let him reach his own informed conclusions instead of trying (successfully) to fool him into saying something stupid on the air. I guarantee you that won’t happen again.”

You know Knapp, you are a fucking LYING SACK OF SHIT. I DON’T KNOW WHO ERIC MAY IS AND I’VE NEVER HEARD OF SUCH AN ARTICLE NOR DID I GIVE SUCH AN ARTICLE TO STEVE KUBBY, NOR WOULD I HAVE GIVEN SUCH AN ARTICLE TO STEVE KUBBY IF I HAD KNOWN OF ITS EXSISTENCE.

Also, Kubby was a 9/11 Truther before he even knew who I was.

May 16th, 2008 at 10:52 am
The thing that gets me about this Barrett character is that he believes 9/11 was a false flag, but wants that same government to control our healthcare and retirement, and to bust trusts.

I’m not a purger, but this guy is so out of line, he should not be given the LP ballot line. And my thoughts have nothing to do with 9/11, other than the immense hypocrisy and irrationality his 9/11 views take on when mixed with his socialist views. In fact, I would think the 9/11 Truth Movement would be ashamed to have him too.”

Kevin Barrett is a good guy but you are right that he should not be a Libertarian Party candidate. He obviously doesn’t get the entire libertarian picture. He should probably run as an independent.

I don’t know what article about which you are speaking. I’ve never heard of Eric May. YOU ARE ACCUSING ME OF SOMETHING THAT I NEVER DID!

I thought Barr spoke well here.

Some of the history above, I know about because I’m currently reading Others, a four-volume history of third party politics in America, by Darcy G. Richardson. It’s a fantastic piece of work, and while Richardson is an avowed lefty, he doesn’t give non-leftist parties short shrift. If you’re interested in that kind of thing (and I find it fascinating), get the books.

Before the adoption of the Australian ballot, there was really a “level playing field.” Parties printed their own ballots and distributed those ballots. Voters took the ballot of the party they supported, or hand-wrote their own ballot, and cast it.

Under this regime, there were often ad hoc “fusions” of party slates, and even into the 1890s before the government-printed, state-decides-who-gets-on, ballot really took over, there were congresscritters on, and elected on (as an example) both Populist and Democrat ballots.

Of course, there was some fuckery, too—one party might fake up another party’s ballots, including a few of that other party’s candidates at the top, but down-ballot insert its own candidates (or, in the example I’m remembering, presidential electors). So if you didn’t make sure to get your party’s ballot from someone you knew to be a legitimate distributor, you might be voting for the wrong lizard without even knowing it.

Anyway … the Australian ballot and restrictive laws on access to that ballot fundamentally changed the position of third parties. Money now gets spent bowing and scraping to get the major parties to pretty-please let us run a ticket instead of on campaigning.

Unity ‘64 ploy… that’ll work