One wonders, Sparkle-Darkle, just how is it is that in this, your most earnest of relevance seeking moments, you found yourself forced to read even a smiggen of any of my posts in this thread at all? I know, I know, don’t tell me. Despite the fact that you were suitably focused and wearing your “I-swear-I’ll-never-post-even-a-word-off-topic” sweatshirt, there you were peering away at those terribly enticing but wholly irrelevant comments of mine. But that was my fault, wasn’t it? And you know what else was my fault? The fact that you posted a reply just as irrelevant as any I’d posted before you!! Do you think that if we were to work together for a while we could release you from this awful slavery? I

mean, clearly, I would seem to have this strange power over you, you simply cannot resist reading and replying when I write. Would you think a that a talk might help, and if not that, a gentle but effective purgative, perhaps?

I find that your personal attack on hunters is inappropriate, annoying, and off topic. We’re talking about Barr’s statement to Gov. Huckabee, not about your ideas of having those who kill animals imprisoned, beaten, and sterilized.

Calling Clark and David slow and handicapped for their beliefs is not adding anything to this discussion. I happen to disagree with your ideas, and yes, you’re entitled to your opinion, but stop spouting your bigotry here and let the rest of us continue the discussion.

...but come on, admit it!..you’ve swallowed a hot dog or 3 too, right?.. ;o)

Sure, it’s an overreaction to an isolated incident; but this is Mike Huckabee we’re talking about. He’s said much worse, from ‘joking’ about keeping other candidates’ supporters from voting, to apologizing for assassinating Bhutto, to lying about his degrees and his record as Governor—and got away with all of it so far. Read the sorry record at:
http://www.nolanchart.com/article3814.html

“..i do find pleasure in providing and eating, fish, fowl, game..most all my life..

...i feel pride in conducting myself as a good sportsman..obeying the rules..(i’ve lobbied for a few of them)

..my family loves to eat ‘wild meat/food’..ok, dead creatures..

..i console myself in that i’m ‘saving’ a pound of much-inferior commercial creature meat…slowing down the slaughterhouse line, if you will…achieving a more nutritious, less damaging, diet…getting fresh air…learning/experiencing nature..(i’ve become quite the wild mushroom expert!)...communing with other sportsmen, esp. my dad, brothers, etc. lifelong friends..(great politics!)

...and the women seem to love us getting our carcasses out of the house!..some/most of the time.. ;o)

...i certainly am disgusted and sickened when any animal suffers ‘needlessly’..(here we go)

...maybe i will reach a new awareness near sunset today with the old man casting a #10 muddlers minnow for some members of the char family.. ;o)”

I know, Clark, you thought this was the Gallup Poll. Not sure, though, what you’d qualify for this time around. I’d mentioned above that I wouldn’t be troubled at all seeing people with the attitudes of, say, a David Williams Jr., for example, imprisoned and beaten mercilessly so as to develop what we might call a “clearer understanding” of the issues involved, that they’d then be free to submit themselves for “voluntary” sterilization. So I suppose I wouldn’t be terribly moved seeing a outcome like that in your case. But you seem so much slower than David. A handicap of some kind perhaps? Something like that could be mitigating, you know.

“So, John, I suppose you don’t like fishing either. How do you think all that meat ends up in the supermarket? At least if I eat a deer, it got to live free instead of being caged and plumped up it’s whole life.

But, I suppose you’re a vegetarian. How dare you kill innocent plants to eat them, their fruits, and their seeds. You pshycopath you…..”

Help me clear this up, will you, Mike. You’re not writing from a college dormitory room, are you?

More accurately: Bob Barr urged gun owners and second amendment supporters to demand an apology, after Huckabee had already posted an apology to Obama on his website.

More accurately: Bob Barr told gun owners and second amendment supporters to demand an apology, after Huckabee had already posted an apology to Obama on his website.

Even if animals have a right to life, including a right not to be shot by humans, there would still be ‘sportsmen’ using guns. There are today – from Olympic skeet shooters, to kids who shoot cans on fenceposts. Barr’s comments are completely accurate wrt them: it’s irresponsible and insulting to joke (as Huckabee did) about such people going around pointing guns at those they disagree with politically. In that respect Barr’s comments were accurate.

Even if Barr disagrees with you on the morality of hunting, which I suspect he does; it’s just as irresponsible and insulting to joke about him or any hunters going around pointing guns at their political opponents.

...i do find pleasure in providing and eating, fish, fowl, game..most all my life..

...i feel pride in conducting myself as a good sportsman..obeying the rules..(i’ve lobbied for a few of them)

..my family loves to eat ‘wild meat/food’..ok, dead creatures..

..i console myself in that i’m ‘saving’ a pound of much-inferior commercial creature meat…slowing down the slaughterhouse line, if you will…achieving a more nutritious, less damaging, diet…getting fresh air…learning/experiencing nature..(i’ve become quite the wild mushroom expert!)...communing with other sportsmen, esp. my dad, brothers, etc. lifelong friends..(great politics!)

...and the women seem to love us getting our carcasses out of the house!..some/most of the time.. ;o)

...i certainly am disgusted and sickened when any animal suffers ‘needlessly’..(here we go)

...maybe i will reach a new awareness near sunset today with the old man casting a #10 muddlers minnow for some members of the char family.. ;o)

Man is an animal that creates tools in order to make himself a better hunter.

If you don’t like that, then you don’t like nature or evolution.

And Bob, as far as dumb mistakes and things we would love to do over again, do you remember a movie called “Borat”?