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	<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/</link>
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		<title>by: DrGonzo</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612932</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 14:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;But at the same time you think a bunch of cave dwellers were capable of carrying out the same “brilliant, almost superhuman feat.”? Alrighty then…&lt;/i&gt;


Hijacking a plane is superhuman? It has been done countless times through the years. It really isn't that hard to fly planes into a building.

These were all educated men. They weren't some cave dwellers as your characterized them. 


&lt;i&gt;Disinter:

I give up. You are true believer who doesn’t want dialogue.&lt;/i&gt;


Which is normal for conspiracy theorists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>But at the same time you think a bunch of cave dwellers were capable of carrying out the same &#8220;brilliant, almost superhuman feat.&#8221;? Alrighty then&#8230;</i></p>
	<p>Hijacking a plane is superhuman? It has been done countless times through the years. It really isn&#8217;t that hard to fly planes into a building.</p>
	<p>These were all educated men. They weren&#8217;t some cave dwellers as your characterized them.</p>
	<p><i>Disinter:</p>
	<p>I give up. You are true believer who doesn&#8217;t want dialogue.</i></p>
	<p>Which is normal for conspiracy theorists.</p>
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		<title>by: dodsworth</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612682</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 06:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Disinter:

I give up.  You are true believer who doesn't want dialogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Disinter:</p>
	<p>I give up.  You are true believer who doesn&#8217;t want dialogue.</p>
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		<title>by: disinter</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612440</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 00:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I noticed that you ignored my point that these “cavemen” were able to keep anyone from talking, a true superhuman feat.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nonsense.  The CIA periodically puts out fake videos of a dead man admitting he did it.</description>
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<blockquote>I noticed that you ignored my point that these &#8220;cavemen&#8221; were able to keep anyone from talking, a true superhuman feat.</blockquote></p>
	<p>Nonsense.  The <span class="caps">CIA</span> periodically puts out fake videos of a dead man admitting he did it.</p>
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		<title>by: dodsworth</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612370</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 23:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Disinter:

I noticed that you ignored my point that these &quot;cavemen&quot; were able to keep anyone from talking, a true superhuman feat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Disinter:</p>
	<p>I noticed that you ignored my point that these &#8220;cavemen&#8221; were able to keep anyone from talking, a true superhuman feat.</p>
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		<title>by: disinter</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612319</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 22:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612319</guid>
					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As I said, if you are right, government is far, far more efficient than libertarians like me give it credit for.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Government is VERY efficient.  You just think they should be efficient at something else.</description>
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<blockquote>As I said, if you are right, government is far, far more efficient than libertarians like me give it credit for.</blockquote></p>
	<p>Government is <span class="caps">VERY</span> efficient.  You just think they should be efficient at something else.</p>
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		<title>by: disinter</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612317</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 22:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you are right that a small cabal in the government organized this, it was indeed a brilliant, almost superhuman feat.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But at the same time you think a bunch of cave dwellers were capable of carrying out the same &quot;brilliant, almost superhuman feat.&quot;?  Alrighty then...</description>
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<blockquote>If you are right that a small cabal in the government organized this, it was indeed a brilliant, almost superhuman feat.</blockquote></p>
	<p>But at the same time you think a bunch of cave dwellers were capable of carrying out the same &#8220;brilliant, almost superhuman feat.&#8221;?  Alrighty then&#8230;</p>
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		<title>by: kombayn</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612309</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 22:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The Libertarian Party needs to focus on a few pro-Liberty states such as Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming and New Hampshire as states they can WIN! To really make a dent in the two-party system, the LP will have to take a state and even if it is only 1 that'll make National Headlines and build the base. Ross Perot never won a state, winning a state is vital in the movement and getting LP officials or 3rd party officials elected to your local office is another key step in the right direction. Infiltrate and promote a site just like PaulCongress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The Libertarian Party needs to focus on a few pro-Liberty states such as Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming and New Hampshire as states they can <span class="caps">WIN</span>! To really make a dent in the two-party system, the LP will have to take a state and even if it is only 1 that&#8217;ll make National Headlines and build the base. Ross Perot never won a state, winning a state is vital in the movement and getting LP officials or 3rd party officials elected to your local office is another key step in the right direction. Infiltrate and promote a site just like PaulCongress.com</p>
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		<title>by: dodsworth</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612293</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 22:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Disinter:

You're right that End of Empire did not say &quot;most&quot; but he came pretty darn close to arguing that truthers, they were  the main driving force behind the RP movement.   In my personal experience, to the contrary, truthers were generally on the side lines and not key to either fundraiising or leadership or even the basic energy of the meet-up groups. Here is what End of Empire said:

&lt;b&gt;The StormTRUTHERS as I like to call them are deluxe street ativists and were responsible for alot of the high level enthusiasm within the RP R3VOlution. They can very well distribute 10 million campaign pamplets this summer and gather a million ballot access signatures.&lt;/b&gt; 

As to your quip, no I don't want a &quot;cookie.&quot;  I was just making the point that RP sensibly rejects truther theory and would further add he is in far better position than either you or me to know.   I trust Ron Paul, who has always rejected truther theory, far more than Alex Jones or, for that matter, an ex-wrestler who was once governor of Minnesota.   If RP thought that truther theory was anything more than complete hogwash, he would say so.

If you are right that a small cabal in the government organized this, it was indeed a brilliant, almost superhuman feat.  Even if they made other mistakes, their very success (again if you are right) in keeping anyone from talking would be sufficient truth to show that.    Why hasn't anyone spilled the beans?  Heck, they could millionaires several times over if they went public. 

As I said, if you are right, government is far, far more efficient than libertarians like me give it credit for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Disinter:</p>
	<p>You&#8217;re right that End of Empire did not say &#8220;most&#8221; but he came pretty darn close to arguing that truthers, they were  the main driving force behind the RP movement.   In my personal experience, to the contrary, truthers were generally on the side lines and not key to either fundraiising or leadership or even the basic energy of the meet-up groups. Here is what End of Empire said:</p>
	<p><b>The StormTRUTHERS as I like to call them are deluxe street ativists and were responsible for alot of the high level enthusiasm within the <span class="caps">RP R3V</span>Olution. They can very well distribute 10 million campaign pamplets this summer and gather a million ballot access signatures.</b></p>
	<p>As to your quip, no I don&#8217;t want a &#8220;cookie.&#8221;  I was just making the point that RP sensibly rejects truther theory and would further add he is in far better position than either you or me to know.   I trust Ron Paul, who has always rejected truther theory, far more than Alex Jones or, for that matter, an ex-wrestler who was once governor of Minnesota.   If RP thought that truther theory was anything more than complete hogwash, he would say so.</p>
	<p>If you are right that a small cabal in the government organized this, it was indeed a brilliant, almost superhuman feat.  Even if they made other mistakes, their very success (again if you are right) in keeping anyone from talking would be sufficient truth to show that.    Why hasn&#8217;t anyone spilled the beans?  Heck, they could millionaires several times over if they went public.</p>
	<p>As I said, if you are right, government is far, far more efficient than libertarians like me give it credit for.</p>
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		<title>by: Kenny</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612280</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 21:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612280</guid>
					<description>Bob's fundraising counter is ticking over very slowly at his website. His endorsements are pathetic. FUBARR?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bob&#8217;s fundraising counter is ticking over very slowly at his website. His endorsements are pathetic. <span class="caps">FUBARR</span>?</p>
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		<title>by: End the Empire</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612145</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612145</guid>
					<description>dodsworth Says: 

May 20th, 2008 at 9:07 am 
End of the Empire:

You’re wrong IMHO. I have participated actively in more than one RP meet-up groups and vast majority of the folks are NOT 9-11 truthers. In any case, you are right in one sense. The Barr/Baldwin fundraising contest will give a good picture of the actual power of the 9-11 truthers.&quot;&quot;&quot;

I don't know you Dodsworth, but you need to slow down or reread a post I post before you correct me. 

Since when is a &quot;nice %&quot; the same as a VAST MAJORITY? If I'm wrong I'm sure you can correct me, SON, was the Austin, TX meet-up group one of the top five in total members? They had &quot;a nice %&quot; of truthers in their midst. To a LP member more than 00.5 % or to a CP member more than 00.25 % could be a &quot;nice %&quot;! Paul supporters come from many backgrounds, some have even been known to smoke a joint on occasion ! HaH, now you know they are lining up to support Barr, don't you ?

As for your Barr/Baldwin fundraising scale as a deciding factor, I feel that is rather unfair since Barr has a long list of &quot;defenseless&quot; old ladies and men in their eighties and nineties with more money than judgement (but not in all cases, some are on fixed income and perhaps at the poverty level!), in which Barr and his people can SCAM.

Chuck Baldwin, to my knowledge, is above such practices. As a believing christian, if he did so, he would suffer for it in this life.  

 My post:
&quot;Jones supporters and Genesis listeners were a nice % of the Paul doners and grassroot activists.&quot;

&quot;NICE %&quot;, Mr. Dodsworth...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>dodsworth Says:</p>
	<p>May 20th, 2008 at 9:07 am<br />
End of the Empire:</p>
	<p>You&#8217;re wrong <span class="caps">IMHO</span>. I have participated actively in more than one RP meet-up groups and vast majority of the folks are <span class="caps">NOT 9</span>-11 truthers. In any case, you are right in one sense. The Barr/Baldwin fundraising contest will give a good picture of the actual power of the 9-11 truthers.&#8221;&#8220;&#8221;</p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t know you Dodsworth, but you need to slow down or reread a post I post before you correct me.</p>
	<p>Since when is a &#8220;nice %&#8221; the same as a <span class="caps">VAST MAJORITY</span>? If I&#8217;m wrong I&#8217;m sure you can correct me, <span class="caps">SON</span>, was the Austin, TX meet-up group one of the top five in total members? They had &#8220;a nice %&#8221; of truthers in their midst. To a LP member more than 00.5 % or to a CP member more than 00.25 % could be a &#8220;nice %&#8221;! Paul supporters come from many backgrounds, some have even been known to smoke a joint on occasion ! HaH, now you know they are lining up to support Barr, don&#8217;t you ?</p>
	<p>As for your Barr/Baldwin fundraising scale as a deciding factor, I feel that is rather unfair since Barr has a long list of &#8220;defenseless&#8221; old ladies and men in their eighties and nineties with more money than judgement (but not in all cases, some are on fixed income and perhaps at the poverty level!), in which Barr and his people can <span class="caps">SCAM</span>.</p>
	<p>Chuck Baldwin, to my knowledge, is above such practices. As a believing christian, if he did so, he would suffer for it in this life.</p>
	<p> My post:<br />
&#8220;Jones supporters and Genesis listeners were a nice % of the Paul doners and grassroot activists.&#8221;</p>
	<p>&#8220;NICE %&#8221;, Mr. Dodsworth&#8230;</p>
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		<title>by: disinter</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612144</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Oh yeah, I know, conspiracy theories are not allowed and conspiracies do not actually exist.  Although, if that were true the word itself would not exist and you would not know what I am talking about.  In fact we all conspire and have conspired since the first grade and some of the conspiracies become known, like the tobacco industry fudging its figures on cancer or the recent expose of the KGB planting false scientific information in the west about a so called “nuclear winter.”&quot;

http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2008/05/19/how-a-gop-conspiracy-continues-to-cheat-ron-paul/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Oh yeah, I know, conspiracy theories are not allowed and conspiracies do not actually exist.  Although, if that were true the word itself would not exist and you would not know what I am talking about.  In fact we all conspire and have conspired since the first grade and some of the conspiracies become known, like the tobacco industry fudging its figures on cancer or the recent expose of the <span class="caps">KGB</span> planting false scientific information in the west about a so called &#8220;nuclear winter.&#8221;&#8221;</p>
	<p><a href='http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2008/05/19/how-a-gop-conspiracy-continues-to-cheat-ron-paul/' rel='nofollow'>http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2008/05/19/how-a-gop-conspiracy-continues-to-cheat-ron-paul/</a></p>
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		<title>by: disinter</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612140</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612140</guid>
					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Unfortunately, you seem to believe that a small cabal in the federal government have God like powers to pull off such a grand conspiracy and cover it up.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don't think they executed, or covered it up, well at all.  There are far too many holes in the official conspiracy theory for it to be credible.

People always think the truth is &quot;insane&quot; until they finally figure out it is the truth.</description>
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<blockquote>Unfortunately, you seem to believe that a small cabal in the federal government have God like powers to pull off such a grand conspiracy and cover it up.</blockquote></p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t think they executed, or covered it up, well at all.  There are far too many holes in the official conspiracy theory for it to be credible.</p>
	<p>People always think the truth is &#8220;insane&#8221; until they finally figure out it is the truth.</p>
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		<title>by: disinter</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612134</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612134</guid>
					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;BTW, Ron Paul agrees with me not you!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Want a cookie?</description>
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<blockquote><span class="caps">BTW</span>, Ron Paul agrees with me not you!</blockquote></p>
	<p>Want a cookie?</p>
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		<title>by: dodsworth</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612061</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Good for you.  Unfortunately, you seem to believe that a small cabal in the federal government have God like powers to pull off such a grand conspiracy and cover it up.  I don't share your apparent faith in the intelligence and planning ability of the feds.  I think their a bunch of bunglers who can't even keep a secret or organize themselves out a paper bag.  BTW, Ron Paul agrees with me not you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Good for you.  Unfortunately, you seem to believe that a small cabal in the federal government have God like powers to pull off such a grand conspiracy and cover it up.  I don&#8217;t share your apparent faith in the intelligence and planning ability of the feds.  I think their a bunch of bunglers who can&#8217;t even keep a secret or organize themselves out a paper bag.  <span class="caps">BTW</span>, Ron Paul agrees with me not you!</p>
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		<title>by: disinter</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/bob-barrs-announcement-video/#comment-612032</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Ah….but will you give to Baldwin?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I am not in favor of a Christian theocracy, no.</description>
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<blockquote>Ah&#8230;.but will you give to Baldwin?</blockquote></p>
	<p>I am not in favor of a Christian theocracy, no.</p>
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