Comments on: No One Can Be Told What The Libertarian Matrix Is http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/ Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:58:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.3 by: g brian http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612934 Wed, 21 May 2008 14:40:04 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612934 interesting how brian holtz is now a contributor of entries on this site, whereas he just did comments before viguerie took over. interesting how brian holtz is now a contributor of entries on this site, whereas he just did comments before viguerie took over.

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by: Stewart Flood http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612337 Tue, 20 May 2008 22:56:48 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612337 There are four of us in the car. I'm the navigator for this part of the trip. We're just north of Atlanta now on 75 heading for TN. About 400 miles down. There are four of us in the car. I’m the navigator for this part of the trip.

We’re just north of Atlanta now on 75 heading for TN. About 400 miles down.

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by: Susan Hogarth http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612231 Tue, 20 May 2008 20:56:13 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612231 <i>My logic is irrefutable.</i> Well, that's settled then. My logic is irrefutable.

Well, that’s settled then.

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by: Chris Moore http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612206 Tue, 20 May 2008 20:28:29 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612206 <blockquote>Did he wear a bowtie? ‘Cause if he didn’t, I really can’t take him, or you, seriously.</blockquote> Actually, he looked a little like Robert Milnes with an even bushier beard! Besides, he's dead. Rothbard is also dead. Rothbard wore a bowtie. Therefore, Boltzmann must have worn a bowtie. My logic is irrefutable.
Did he wear a bowtie? ‘Cause if he didn’t, I really can’t take him, or you, seriously.

Actually, he looked a little like Robert Milnes with an even bushier beard! Besides, he’s dead. Rothbard is also dead. Rothbard wore a bowtie. Therefore, Boltzmann must have worn a bowtie.

My logic is irrefutable.

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by: Susan Hogarth http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612193 Tue, 20 May 2008 20:13:29 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612193 <i>And all this time I thought you were a principled anorderist. Afterall, it is naked aggression to force order on a natural system that desires un-order. At least, this is what the founding father of anorderism and Austrian theorist Ludwig Boltzmann believed.</i> Did he wear a bowtie? 'Cause if he didn't, I really can't take him, or you, seriously. And all this time I thought you were a principled anorderist. Afterall, it is naked aggression to force order on a natural system that desires un-order. At least, this is what the founding father of anorderism and Austrian theorist Ludwig Boltzmann believed.

Did he wear a bowtie? ‘Cause if he didn’t, I really can’t take him, or you, seriously.

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by: Chris Moore http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612162 Tue, 20 May 2008 19:34:07 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612162 <blockquote>Dork! Anordery only applies to government stuff. Private stuff can be ordered. Assuming your mind is your own, and not the government’s, that is.</blockquote> And all this time I thought you were a <em>principled</em> anorderist. Afterall, it is naked aggression to force order on a natural system that desires un-order. At least, this is what the founding father of anorderism and Austrian theorist Ludwig Boltzmann believed.
Dork! Anordery only applies to government stuff. Private stuff can be ordered. Assuming your mind is your own, and not the government’s, that is.

And all this time I thought you were a principled anorderist. Afterall, it is naked aggression to force order on a natural system that desires un-order. At least, this is what the founding father of anorderism and Austrian theorist Ludwig Boltzmann believed.

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by: Susan Hogarth http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612148 Tue, 20 May 2008 19:15:06 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612148 <i>You thought that the WAR comment was funny?</i> No, I was trying to be charitable. And bitchy at the same time. Hmm. Guess that's harder to pull off than it seems, at first. <i>It is also possible that Milnes is Rothbard, since both of them are/were schizophrenic.</i> That's way in the not-funny category. <i>Not quite sure how far we’ve driven. Not out of South Carolina yet. Blackberries are fun!</i> You had BETTER not be driving-while-typing, you crack-head. You thought that the WAR comment was funny?

No, I was trying to be charitable. And bitchy at the same time. Hmm. Guess that’s harder to pull off than it seems, at first.

It is also possible that Milnes is Rothbard, since both of them are/were schizophrenic.

That’s way in the not-funny category.

Not quite sure how far we’ve driven. Not out of South Carolina yet.

Blackberries are fun!

You had BETTER not be driving-while-typing, you crack-head.

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by: Stewart Flood http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612136 Tue, 20 May 2008 19:04:15 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612136 You thought that the WAR comment was funny? I must need a new writer. It is also possible that Milnes is Rothbard, since both of them are/were schizophrenic. Not quite sure how far we've driven. Not out of South Carolina yet. Blackberries are fun! You thought that the WAR comment was funny? I must need a new writer.

It is also possible that Milnes is Rothbard, since both of them are/were schizophrenic.

Not quite sure how far we’ve driven. Not out of South Carolina yet.

Blackberries are fun!

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by: Susan Hogarth http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612126 Tue, 20 May 2008 18:53:40 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612126 <i>However, since you seem to suggest an ordered process where I first listen and then think before changing my mind about your position, I see we do have some common ground against Susan. Damn anorderists.</i> Dork! Anordery only applies to government stuff. Private stuff can be ordered. Assuming your mind is your own, and not the government's, that is. Duh. However, since you seem to suggest an ordered process where I first listen and then think before changing my mind about your position, I see we do have some common ground against Susan. Damn anorderists.

Dork! Anordery only applies to government stuff. Private stuff can be ordered. Assuming your mind is your own, and not the government’s, that is.

Duh.

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by: Susan Hogarth http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612123 Tue, 20 May 2008 18:50:58 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612123 <i>What if WAR is really Rothbard?</i> Now, Stewart boy, DON'T you go trying to worm your way back into my good graces with humor. I intend to stay mad for some time, yet. What if WAR is really Rothbard?

Now, Stewart boy, DON’T you go trying to worm your way back into my good graces with humor. I intend to stay mad for some time, yet.

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by: Chris Moore http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612118 Tue, 20 May 2008 18:41:42 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612118 <blockquote>Uh oh, they’ve stumbled upon our ingenious plan to “purge” them by politely asking the delegates to vote on whether the Platform be as respectful of our small-government minarchist principles as it is of their zero-government anarchist principles.</blockquote> We will not stand for such statist tactics! Persuading me to think by using calm and rational arguments is a violation of the Non-Aggression Principle! However, since you seem to suggest an ordered process where I first listen and then think before changing my mind about your position, I see we do have some common ground against Susan. Damn anorderists.
Uh oh, they’ve stumbled upon our ingenious plan to “purge” them by politely asking the delegates to vote on whether the Platform be as respectful of our small-government minarchist principles as it is of their zero-government anarchist principles.

We will not stand for such statist tactics! Persuading me to think by using calm and rational arguments is a violation of the Non-Aggression Principle!

However, since you seem to suggest an ordered process where I first listen and then think before changing my mind about your position, I see we do have some common ground against Susan. Damn anorderists.

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by: Brad http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612112 Tue, 20 May 2008 18:31:29 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612112 I disagree with most of the positions they named, but I'm not going to support an agenda of discriminating against immigrants and throwing so-called "teenagers" (adults who are treated as children) in jail for having sex. I personally would much rather support those who seek impractical policies such as abolishing the military and private ownership of nukes than somebody who supports evil apartheid policies of government-mandated discrimination. I also get the sense that the Reform Caucus doesn't believe that warmongering is wrong (considering the positions of Barr and Root, their 2 main candidates). I disagree with most of the positions they named, but I’m not going to support an agenda of discriminating against immigrants and throwing so-called “teenagers” (adults who are treated as children) in jail for having sex. I personally would much rather support those who seek impractical policies such as abolishing the military and private ownership of nukes than somebody who supports evil apartheid policies of government-mandated discrimination. I also get the sense that the Reform Caucus doesn’t believe that warmongering is wrong (considering the positions of Barr and Root, their 2 main candidates).

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by: Brian Holtz http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612104 Tue, 20 May 2008 18:04:27 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612104 Uh oh, they've stumbled upon our ingenious plan to "purge" them by politely asking the delegates to vote on whether the Platform be as respectful of our small-government minarchist principles as it is of their zero-government anarchist principles. Is it too late to get a refund on our booth? Uh oh, they’ve stumbled upon our ingenious plan to “purge” them by politely asking the delegates to vote on whether the Platform be as respectful of our small-government minarchist principles as it is of their zero-government anarchist principles.

Is it too late to get a refund on our booth?

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by: Stewart Flood http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612094 Tue, 20 May 2008 17:54:43 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612094 How do you know that Rothbard is dead? He could have re-incarnated as one of our Presidential candidates. What if WAR is really Rothbard? Maybe Gravel's sudden conversion is due to a massive (fatal) seizure and Rothbard is inhabiting his body? 150 miles down, 1500 to go...should be in Denver by noon tomorrow! How do you know that Rothbard is dead? He could have re-incarnated as one of our Presidential candidates. What if WAR is really Rothbard? Maybe Gravel’s sudden conversion is due to a massive (fatal) seizure and Rothbard is inhabiting his body?

150 miles down, 1500 to go…should be in Denver by noon tomorrow!

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by: Susan Hogarth http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612070 Tue, 20 May 2008 17:17:42 +0000 http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/20/no-one-can-be-told-what-the-libertarian-matrix-is/#comment-612070 <i>I have recently formed the Libertarian Caucus for Deviationist Reform.</i> HERETIC! <i>We believe a strict adherence to the principle of NoParticularOrder to not be palatable to the voters. </i> Voters? I thought those cute fuzzy things were Tucker Carlson's discarded bowties. <i>Therefore, we offer a compromise solution.</i> Compromise is NEVER a solution! <i>We will offer this compromise at the convention, and if the delegates don’t like it exactly as we’ve laid it out, then screw them. I’m going home. Fuckin’ anorderists telling us how to order (or not order) the smashing of the state!</i> Deserter! Heretic deviationist orderist deserter! And your mom is chubby. <i>We know what the voters want. They want an ordered dismantling of the power structure. Few of our members have actually ran for elected office on this brilliant compromise platform, and those that did lost just as bad as the non-reformers. However, this is only because the voters were put-off by the current position on Order which is available on the LPs website about 20,000 clicks from the home page, and that I am sure was read by every one of them. This is obviously what keeps the LP from winning.</i> Oh. Gosh, maybe you have a point. It's all MY FAULT. I am SO SORRY. No, wait! it's Murray Rothbard's fault. He's dead, so we can blame him for everything. And he wore bowties. Tucker Carlson wore bowties... but gave them up. Hmmmmmm. Verrrry suspicious. <i>People like you are keeping the LP down by trying to purge the LP of orderists like myself. Why are you trying to purge me?!</i> A purge a day ... keeps the Republicans at bay!! <i>I don’t want to purge anorderists. I just want them to shut up, do as they’re told, and agree to the compromises that we dictate.</i> Oh. OK. I have recently formed the Libertarian Caucus for Deviationist Reform.

HERETIC!

We believe a strict adherence to the principle of NoParticularOrder to not be palatable to the voters.

Voters? I thought those cute fuzzy things were Tucker Carlson’s discarded bowties.

Therefore, we offer a compromise solution.

Compromise is NEVER a solution!

We will offer this compromise at the convention, and if the delegates don’t like it exactly as we’ve laid it out, then screw them. I’m going home. Fuckin’ anorderists telling us how to order (or not order) the smashing of the state!

Deserter! Heretic deviationist orderist deserter! And your mom is chubby.

We know what the voters want. They want an ordered dismantling of the power structure. Few of our members have actually ran for elected office on this brilliant compromise platform, and those that did lost just as bad as the non-reformers. However, this is only because the voters were put-off by the current position on Order which is available on the LPs website about 20,000 clicks from the home page, and that I am sure was read by every one of them. This is obviously what keeps the LP from winning.

Oh. Gosh, maybe you have a point. It’s all MY FAULT. I am SO SORRY.

No, wait! it’s Murray Rothbard’s fault. He’s dead, so we can blame him for everything. And he wore bowties. Tucker Carlson wore bowties… but gave them up. Hmmmmmm. Verrrry suspicious.

People like you are keeping the LP down by trying to purge the LP of orderists like myself. Why are you trying to purge me?!

A purge a day … keeps the Republicans at bay!!

I don’t want to purge anorderists. I just want them to shut up, do as they’re told, and agree to the compromises that we dictate.

Oh. OK.

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