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	<title>Comments on: Kubby Urges Support For Barr/Root Ticket</title>
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		<title>by: anaessHeaby</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-1069203</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I am here at a forum newcomer. Until I read and deal with the forum.
Let's learn!</description>
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Let&#8217;s learn!</p>
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		<title>by: Michael Seebeck</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-627026</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-627026</guid>
					<description>Having been around Kubby consistently throughout the convention in the CA delegation, the Radicalz Caucus, and talking to him in person, I can say that not only was he not stoned, he was dead serious and stone-cold sober.

Kubby's VP run may have saved the LP.  His call for unity is along those lines as well.

Too bad.  The Drug Warrior and the MMJ Advocate on the same ticket would have been an interesting sight...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Having been around Kubby consistently throughout the convention in the CA delegation, the Radicalz Caucus, and talking to him in person, I can say that not only was he not stoned, he was dead serious and stone-cold sober.</p>
	<p>Kubby&#8217;s VP run may have saved the LP.  His call for unity is along those lines as well.</p>
	<p>Too bad.  The Drug Warrior and the <span class="caps">MMJ </span>Advocate on the same ticket would have been an interesting sight&#8230;</p>
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		<title>by: V</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-624751</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 19:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-624751</guid>
					<description>When Root dropped out and it was just Barr and Ruwart, I turned around at told the rest of the Delegation &quot;OK, it's your choice, your Country, or your Party!&quot;

You see what the 'majority' chose.....

signed V
Arizona Delegate

my Youtubes coming soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>When Root dropped out and it was just Barr and Ruwart, I turned around at told the rest of the Delegation &#8220;OK, it&#8217;s your choice, your Country, or your Party!&#8221;</p>
	<p>You see what the &#8216;majority&#8217; chose&#8230;..</p>
	<p>signed V<br />
Arizona Delegate</p>
	<p>my Youtubes coming soon!</p>
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		<title>by: Dean Striker</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622869</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 13:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622869</guid>
					<description>Hey friends, get it together!   The USA is in moral/economic collapse; the 2-3 stooges of the RepDems along with their media is studiously avoiding that most crucial issue.  None of those are much different except in their priorities; none will eliminate programes, reduce spending, or move to fix the fiat dollar.  That leaves Barr/Root as a real alternative, but quibbling won't get it done.  

NOW is the best opportunity ever for the LP to grab that issue and build a real case for rights and freedom.  Many of us might have liked a different ticket from the LP, but what we have is far better than what they have.

FOCUS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey friends, get it together!   The <span class="caps">USA</span> is in moral/economic collapse; the 2-3 stooges of the RepDems along with their media is studiously avoiding that most crucial issue.  None of those are much different except in their priorities; none will eliminate programes, reduce spending, or move to fix the fiat dollar.  That leaves Barr/Root as a real alternative, but quibbling won&#8217;t get it done.</p>
	<p><span class="caps">NOW</span> is the best opportunity ever for the LP to grab that issue and build a real case for rights and freedom.  Many of us might have liked a different ticket from the LP, but what we have is far better than what they have.</p>
	<p><span class="caps">FOCUS</span>!</p>
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		<title>by: The Democratic Republican</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622463</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 03:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622463</guid>
					<description>Rich Vanier Says: 

May 27th, 2008 at 11:02 pm 
I am new to the Libertarian Party. But, I have figured one thing, Steve Kubby is a “Class Act” No one forced Kubby to write this letter. Kubby is doing what’s best for The Libertarian Party and The Libertarian Movement. Steve Kubby for Governor in 2010. Bravo Steve Kubby.


Agreed.  I'll send all the dollars I can to Kubby for Governor 2010.  I didn't know much about him aside from his imprisonment but his personal integrity has impressed the hell out of me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Rich Vanier Says:</p>
	<p>May 27th, 2008 at 11:02 pm<br />
I am new to the Libertarian Party. But, I have figured one thing, Steve Kubby is a &#8220;Class Act&#8221; No one forced Kubby to write this letter. Kubby is doing what&#8217;s best for The Libertarian Party and The Libertarian Movement. Steve Kubby for Governor in 2010. Bravo Steve Kubby.</p>
	<p>Agreed.  I&#8217;ll send all the dollars I can to Kubby for Governor 2010.  I didn&#8217;t know much about him aside from his imprisonment but his personal integrity has impressed the hell out of me.</p>
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		<title>by: Steve M</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622318</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 00:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622318</guid>
					<description>dodsworth,

A very insightful statement. So given that Barr has burned his bridges and that the human nature of politicians is to self promote them selves we can expect that he will do everything he can to have the highest vote count of a third party candidate in recent history. It is good that he is motivated. The down side is he may make compromises that hurt the LP in the future.

I really don't want to see the Libertarian Party become a wing of the Republican Party unless the Republican Party whole heartedly adapts the positions of the Libertarian Party.

I don't think this election will make or break the LP. I hope it grows the party. I hope the party retains its best characteristics its best ideals.

If the Barr campaign does pull disaffected republican, independents and social libertarians into the party, it will also be interesting to watch the effect on the behavior of the Republican and Democratic Parties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>dodsworth,</p>
	<p>A very insightful statement. So given that Barr has burned his bridges and that the human nature of politicians is to self promote them selves we can expect that he will do everything he can to have the highest vote count of a third party candidate in recent history. It is good that he is motivated. The down side is he may make compromises that hurt the LP in the future.</p>
	<p>I really don&#8217;t want to see the Libertarian Party become a wing of the Republican Party unless the Republican Party whole heartedly adapts the positions of the Libertarian Party.</p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t think this election will make or break the LP. I hope it grows the party. I hope the party retains its best characteristics its best ideals.</p>
	<p>If the Barr campaign does pull disaffected republican, independents and social libertarians into the party, it will also be interesting to watch the effect on the behavior of the Republican and Democratic Parties.</p>
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		<title>by: disinter</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622311</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 00:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622311</guid>
					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;could be making a secure, cushy six figure salary as a lobbyist working for the Israel of defense lobbies&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Umm, he is pocketing 78% of the donations to his Repug PAC.  Try again.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Not a very persuasive argument.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Barr is far from stupid, evil -yes, but not stupid:

http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2008/04/presidential_losers_earnings_john_edwards_bob_dole_al_gore_0.php</description>
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<blockquote>could be making a secure, cushy six figure salary as a lobbyist working for the Israel of defense lobbies</blockquote></p>
	<p>Umm, he is pocketing 78% of the donations to his Repug <span class="caps">PAC</span>.  Try again.</p>
	<p>
<blockquote>Not a very persuasive argument.</blockquote></p>
	<p>Barr is far from stupid, evil -yes, but not stupid:</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2008/04/presidential_losers_earnings_john_edwards_bob_dole_al_gore_0.php' rel='nofollow'>http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2008/04/presidential_losers_earnings_john_edwards_bob_dole_al_gore_0.php</a></p>
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		<title>by: dodsworth</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622303</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622303</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;He is in it for personal gain (see PAC history) and nothing else.&lt;/i&gt;


Not a very persuasive argument.  The pickings are pretty slim in the LP.  Given his big-time connections in the GOP, he could be making a secure, cushy six figure salary as a lobbyist working for the Israel of defense lobbies if he wanted to which would easily exceeed anything he could make by &quot;milking&quot; the LP.  By aligning himself the the ACLU, the LP, and daring to a spout a non-interventionist line (since or not), he has burned his bridges to such a career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>He is in it for personal gain (see <span class="caps">PAC</span> history) and nothing else.</i></p>
	<p>Not a very persuasive argument.  The pickings are pretty slim in the LP.  Given his big-time connections in the <span class="caps">GOP</span>, he could be making a secure, cushy six figure salary as a lobbyist working for the Israel of defense lobbies if he wanted to which would easily exceeed anything he could make by &#8220;milking&#8221; the LP.  By aligning himself the the <span class="caps">ACLU</span>, the LP, and daring to a spout a non-interventionist line (since or not), he has burned his bridges to such a career.</p>
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		<title>by: dodsworth</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622296</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622296</guid>
					<description>Steve M;

Dondero doesn't know what he wants.  I think his main goal is to be in a campaign, almost any campaign where he can be regarded as important and a &quot;leader.&quot;  He'd be in Libertarians for McCain riight now if other people were in it to do him homage.  Unfortunately for him, he was pretty much the one and only member.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Steve M;</p>
	<p>Dondero doesn&#8217;t know what he wants.  I think his main goal is to be in a campaign, almost any campaign where he can be regarded as important and a &#8220;leader.&#8221;  He&#8217;d be in Libertarians for McCain riight now if other people were in it to do him homage.  Unfortunately for him, he was pretty much the one and only member.</p>
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		<title>by: Steve M</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622280</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622280</guid>
					<description>From his own biography:

In 2004, Dondero led the nationwide effort for Libertarians for Bush.

Could it be that Mr Dondero is here to disable and destroy the Libertarian Party?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>From his own biography:</p>
	<p>In 2004, Dondero led the nationwide effort for Libertarians for Bush.</p>
	<p>Could it be that Mr Dondero is here to disable and destroy the Libertarian Party?</p>
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		<title>by: disinter</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622248</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622248</guid>
					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If Barr got elected&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My god, you Barfers live in some bizarre fantasy world.  Hope is good, I guess.</description>
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<blockquote>If Barr got elected</blockquote></p>
	<p>My god, you Barfers live in some bizarre fantasy world.  Hope is good, I guess.</p>
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		<title>by: texpat</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622235</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 22:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622235</guid>
					<description>disinter,

Incrementalism could work fast enough. If Barr got elected and actually managed to &lt;i&gt;cut&lt;/i&gt; the budget by a puny 5% a year, then after four years the federal government would be two-thirds of its current size, since we could count on the Fed to create at least 5% inflation.

After a second term, we'd be down to 43%, a significant improvement.

Sure, I'd prefer 10%, and I think David Friedman and the Tannehills make some good arguments, but right now all of that is irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>disinter,</p>
	<p>Incrementalism could work fast enough. If Barr got elected and actually managed to <i>cut</i> the budget by a puny 5% a year, then after four years the federal government would be two-thirds of its current size, since we could count on the Fed to create at least 5% inflation.</p>
	<p>After a second term, we&#8217;d be down to 43%, a significant improvement.</p>
	<p>Sure, I&#8217;d prefer 10%, and I think David Friedman and the Tannehills make some good arguments, but right now all of that is irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>by: disinter</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622227</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 22:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622227</guid>
					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;His website puts him on record of non-intervention and he just issues another newsrelease attack the feds for violating personal privacy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Big deal.  What he says and what he does are two very different things. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Also, if Barr was just another “neocon” why would he want to split the Republican vote and thus perhaps put Obama in the White House?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Barf could care less who wins the White House.  He is in it for personal gain (see PAC history) and nothing else.  

If you think he has suddenly become such a devout Libertarian, then explain why he is currently funding Republicans that are running against Libertarians?</description>
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<blockquote>His website puts him on record of non-intervention and he just issues another newsrelease attack the feds for violating personal privacy.</blockquote></p>
	<p>Big deal.  What he says and what he does are two very different things.</p>
	<p>
<blockquote>Also, if Barr was just another &#8220;neocon&#8221; why would he want to split the Republican vote and thus perhaps put Obama in the White House?</blockquote></p>
	<p>Barf could care less who wins the White House.  He is in it for personal gain (see <span class="caps">PAC</span> history) and nothing else.</p>
	<p>If you think he has suddenly become such a devout Libertarian, then explain why he is currently funding Republicans that are running against Libertarians?</p>
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		<title>by: disinter</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622223</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 22:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622223</guid>
					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I mean come on, no differences in the issues between Barr and McCain? That’s an outright lie.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Then dispute it.</description>
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<blockquote>I mean come on, no differences in the issues between Barr and McCain? That&#8217;s an outright lie.</blockquote></p>
	<p>Then dispute it.</p>
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		<title>by: dodsworth</title>
		<link>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622198</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 22:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/27/kubby-urges-support-for-barrroot-ticket/#comment-622198</guid>
					<description>Disinter:

I meant to say &quot;by your over the top statements&quot;</description>
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	<p>I meant to say &#8220;by your over the top statements&#8221; </p>
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